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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Neurotoxin on January 02, 2008, 02:45:46 PM
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is it considered "legal drugs"?
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i use creatine
i aint ashamed to admit it
pm me for tips on dosages
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legal baby
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I have used a lot of C.T. in the past, had my best gains with that stuff but got tired of eating right and drinking like a horse.
If you need help with C.T gimme a shout like I said I consider myself somewhat knowledgeable when it comes down to that stuff.
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If you've got a script for them how would they be illegal? You'd have every right to have them & use them. If he's giving you more then the recommended ammounts he could be looking at some trouble.
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bros helping other bros out with the dosages thats the spirit for get big !
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so if my T levels are normal and he prescribes me T for a contest, is that considered legal for both the doctor and myself?
It would be legal for you to have the test but it come back on him because there would ne no reason to give it to you. It would be like a doctor writing me a script for 100 vics or something out of the blue.
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some say a side effect of creatine is that it makes you hold water
i disagree
not with the fact that it does
but that it is a side effect i.e. something that isnt wanted
i praise this
give me water fill my muscles
creatine
the best thing since goatweed
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so if i'm caught with prescribed vials and pins, it would be legal ?
Call Rick Collins.
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how much do u take ?
pm for dosage suggestions im not allowed to publically speak about it
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pm for dosage suggestions im not allowed to publically speak about it
;D
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;D
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so if i'm caught with prescribed vials and pins, it would be legal ?
Dude, just fess up...what did you do?? :D
Call Rick Collins.
LOL! call Rick if you fucked up.
To answer your original question, a legit doc will script what you need. A doc that "will hook you up" is asking for trouble.
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so if i'm caught with prescribed vials and pins, it would be legal ?
Yes. As long as you have the script you'll be fine. I'd keep it handy if I were you. You could run into problems if you had things loose (i.e. pills out of the bottle).
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I smell a market for illegal prescriptions.
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if a doctor prescribes me illegal amounts of steroids (not HRT) are they now considered "legal drugs"?
i say it's illegal.........what's your opinion ?
I say it's wrong. First off, it says a lot about a supposed Medical professional. What kind of "Dr." would risk his patients, as well as himself over something so silly.
I laugh at these dumb fucks who claim to be legal......it's only on a technicality, doesn't make it any less wrong. Think about it, if let's say, Ronnie Coleman is "legal" what kind of Medical professional would give a bber access to the tons of drugs they use? were not talking about some HRT, these fuckers abuse everything.
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apparently there are physicians who prescribe juice to wannabe bodybuilders.
i think it's illgal on both ends......what if one gets caught ?
Doc or patient?
If patient, covered from the script. If doc, he/she could be in a world of shit if found script was given under false premises.
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apparently there are physicians who prescribe juice to wannabe bodybuilders.
i think it's illgal on both ends......what if one gets caught ?
BBing or cosmetic reasons are not a valid indication for a AAS script.
Many other things are, and Drs have latitude in not only the particular drugs they choose, but also dose.
eg:ANy Dr w/ a script pad can write for SH II narcotic that is lethal. SOme patients will NEED dose titrated up to a level that is deadly to the general public. This is not a crime.
Fact is specialists handle most scripts for unusual drugs.
Ave Doc is a runny nose specialist deciding if antibiotics are appropriate, or if referral to another Dr or tests are in order. Hes not touching AAS or stuff like the stronger pain medications.
The idea here that AAS can not be written is 100% wrong. They have many indications for prescription and are scheduled less strictly controlled than drugs that are prescribed much more frequently.
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if a doctor prescribes me illegal amounts of steroids (not HRT) are they now considered "legal drugs"?
i say it's illegal.........what's your opinion ?
The doctor would have to be able to justify his prescription based on what the drug being prescribed is being prescibed for (if he is called into question)...
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The doctor would have to be able to justify his prescription based on what the drug being prescribed is being prescibed for (if he is called into question)...
That shits all in the records before they will even write for ANYTHING. Thats waht Drs do.
If a particular Dr is way out of line they will look at them.
Benoits Dr comes to mind. They only look'd after the murders to.
Field specialists by nature write a inordinate number of their particular medications. Thats expected.
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I think they prescribe AAS for AIDS on a legit basis. Some of the pole smokers around here like Bluto should have no problem getting hooked up.
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God you people are idiots.......if there prescribed there legal..steroids have many health benefits...anti aging being the biggest legal use for roids...grow up people. Valium is not good for you prescribed every day..birth control....viagra kills people but still prescribed. Much bigger fish to fry in the big scheme of things
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God you people are idiots.......if there prescribed there legal..steroids have many health benefits...anti aging being the biggest legal use for roids...grow up people. Valium is not good for you prescribed every day..birth control....viagra kills people but still prescribed. Much bigger fish to fry in the big scheme of things
It = funny that you tell people to grow up.
But totally irrelevant because most of the people on here = probably more mature than yourself.
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Who are you?
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God you people are idiots.......if there prescribed there legal..steroids have many health benefits...anti aging being the biggest legal use for roids...grow up people. Valium is not good for you prescribed every day..birth control....viagra kills people but still prescribed. Much bigger fish to fry in the big scheme of things
Um, he was talking about scripting them NOT for HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy). Therefore, the doctor is liable because of giving out a script without any valid medical reasons.
AS for the other drugs mentioned, no relevance to this thread. Thanks for contributing.
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Who are you?
That = irrelevant.
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There are many uses for steroids besides HRT...like I said anti aging clinics are making a fortune prescribing steroids and gh to anybody that pays.
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There are many uses for steroids besides HRT...like I said anti aging clinics are making a fortune prescribing steroids and gh to anybody that pays.
That is the point....therefore, it becomes the doctors responsibility for giving a false perscription. That is the topic at hand, is that legal? Probably not.
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There are many uses for steroids besides HRT...like I said anti aging clinics are making a fortune prescribing steroids and gh to anybody that pays.
::) Ok, "gh15".....
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how can it be false if a doctor gives it to you ::)
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so prescribing illegal amounts of T is legal ?
Define "Illegal amt". As I pointed out, Drs are Drs because their judgment is used in adjusting dose.
200mg + of morphine a day is a normal amount for some ppl walkin around lookin just fine.
What a Dr prescribes is presumed legal by the patient, if the patient had knowledge to the otherwise, they would then be guilty of a crime.
You seem to presume that AAS can not be written and must be written at some preordained dose.
This is not true for any drug. There are vast differences in individual response.
Dose is a consideration of desired response vs unwanted side effects. That the limiting factor.
THAT is the practice of medicine.
BTW your a moron... ;D DId you Go flat on your $1.99 "Stock holdings". ::)
U prolly own thousands of shares of Penny ante Roach Motel.
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Joe Marino broke the law.
A doctor predcribing test is as good some coke dealer by the name of Ricardo.
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Joe Marino broke the law.
A doctor predcribing test is as good some coke dealer by the name of Ricardo.
doctor shopping is a crime in some places, the dead wrestler did that
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What a Dr prescribes is presumed legal by the patient, if the patient had knowledge to the otherwise, they would then be guilty of a crime.
Yup
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Joe Marino broke the law.
Quick! Someone 'Shop a DEA "wanted" poster out of this! :D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0398.jpg)
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Epic gay waistcoast and lousy tie knot.
Joe, you've got a lot of nerve bash Hide when you're no better.
A DEA agent should be ramming a Glock 21 down your rectum because you're an unstable and moody neocon.
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i use creatine
i aint ashamed to admit it
pm me for tips on dosages
You are a 19yo from Victoria BC therefore, not credible in any way.
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I think they prescribe AAS for AIDS on a legit basis. Some of the pole smokers around here like Bluto should have no problem getting hooked up.
Synthol is great for the cell count. Just ask DA.
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If you go to check your T levels, and as a result the doctor gives you a script of T, are you still considered as a "lifetime natural"?
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If i asked my Doctor for steroids hed throw the weight scales at my head. :P
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imo, only HRT therapy should be considered natural, if utilized to be T back to a normal range.
Sure.. "Normal" is like 200-1000+,,,,, ANyone who cant grow muscle on 1000 has some kind of problem.
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if a doctor prescribes me illegal amounts of steroids (not HRT) are they now considered "legal drugs"?
i say it's illegal.........what's your opinion ?
If steroids are perscribed, they are NOT illegal.
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If steroids are perscribed, they are NOT illegal.
Not always true. See trab's post.
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how can it be false if a doctor gives it to you ::)
Because, unless you have done blood work and show that your levels are low for Gh, Test, Thyroid...etc. you can not get a script. If a doc gives you a script knowing your healthy and using for BB purposes, I believe the repsonsibilty falls on the doc. You are ok because you are holding a script but looks what is happening to the athletes, they all got false scripts and LE went after the docs.
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Because, unless you have done blood work and show that your levels are low for Gh, Test, Thyroid...etc. you can not get a script. If a doc gives you a script knowing your healthy and using for BB purposes, I believe the repsonsibilty falls on the doc. You are ok because you are holding a script but looks what is happening to the athletes, they all got false scripts and LE went after the docs.
Yup. There's no way Joe's doc could defend his decision to prescribe Dianabol to him as HRT. He is helping athletes dope, no doubt about it.
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E mail this guy. He'll give you skinny!
http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/about/bios/detail.php?username=hpope (http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/about/bios/detail.php?username=hpope)
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It would be like a doctor writing me a script for 100 vics or something out of the blue.
You wish ;D
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Yup. There's no way Joe's doc could defend his decision to prescribe Dianabol to him as HRT. He is helping athletes dope, no doubt about it.
Actually there are "Policy Guidelines" in place for the import of unapproved drugs.
A Dr must write the script, there must be no other drug that will fill the bill as well, Bla Bla Bla...
If a High Paid Dr w/ a few patients wrote Dbol now and then for import, worst would likely happen is it seized.
Then you can file to have it released and if had a script, I assume they would have to give it to you.
Dr would need own private practice. No HMO or Govt Practice Dr will do this .
But a guys in own Biz serving high wealth patients might.
I know of some unapproved drugs that Drs do write for now and then. Not AAS.
He may well have imported Dbol if hes wealthy. Good luck pulling that off for Joe Average.
No way that Dr can run up a big list of pateints and keep taht up.
Dbol is not worth that much trouble IMO.
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You wish ;D
Damn right. I could probably make $500+ on that. ;D
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Oh my god are you people stupid.....if a doctor decides you need steroids for any reason that he deams fit its friggin legal...if he thinks test will bring back your sex drive he can prescibe them to you cause hes the friggin doctor...no one will question him if the doses and reasons are anything close to health related...not just for low test counts...hell they give test prop for birth control....damn why are you people so friggin stupid.
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Methandrostenleone is still being made in the US.
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Oh my god are you people stupid.....if a doctor decides you need steroids for any reason that he deams fit its friggin legal...if he thinks test will bring back your sex drive he can prescibe them to you cause hes the friggin doctor...no one will question him if the doses and reasons are anything close to health related...not just for low test counts...hell they give test prop for birth control....damn why are you people so friggin stupid.
exactly, anyone with low test, could get a prescription from a doc, no problem!
testosterone replacement therapy, perfectly legal, for men over 35 but the dosage is low...
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Methandrostenleone is still being made in the US.
Please elaborate. Wikipedia says it was banned by the FDA but Wiki is not very reliable.
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Please elaborate. Wikipedia says it was banned by the FDA but Wiki is not very reliable.
Ive never seen it offered from any HRT or their pharmas.
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exactly, anyone with low test, could get a prescription from a doc, no problem!
testosterone replacement therapy, perfectly legal, for men over 35 but the dosage is low...
So now it's only legal if you are over 35? Reference please.
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What if I tell the doc that black chicks don't give me erections while being the desire of my adam's apple? Will I get test then?
hahahaha
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What if I tell the doc that black chicks don't give me erections ?
hahahaha
Why? Because of the distinct smell of chicken?
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What if I tell the doc that black chicks don't give me erections while being the desire of my adam's apple? Will I get test then?
hahahaha
Black men will do the job for your adams apple.
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Oh my god are you people stupid.....if a doctor decides you need steroids for any reason that he deams fit its friggin legal...i
You are a retard. What does this "any reason he deems fit" include?
A legitimate use is replacing low levels. If a doc writes you a cycle which includes supraphysiological amounts of several steroids he can easily get into trouble. I'm not an expert on the law but from what I've read the patient can also get into trouble. Why did the cops investigate and visit Ronnie Coleman for example when he had a script (the florida bust).
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Why? Because of the distinct smell of chicken?
No because they're generally ugly.
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So now it's only legal if you are over 35? Reference please.
well, i'm saying 35 because (could be more or less), normaly its when test start to drop...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070808183915.htm
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I guess I should have elaborated on the dbol. Fars I know dbol was not banned so WIKI is wrong. It was voluntarily pulled by Ciba back in 1983. Any lab who has the ability to test for Dbol needes a standard to test against so they obviously would have to be able to get it from somewhere. I can think of two companies that still make. So "if" a Dr wanted to prescribe it, then all you need to do would be able to find a pharmacy who would be willing to order the raw material. Methandrostenelone was and is approved by the FDA so theroretically a Dr can prescribe it for you just lke any other steroid.
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I guess I should have elaborated on the dbol. Fars I know dbol was not banned so WIKI is wrong. It was voluntarily pulled by Ciba back in 1983. Any lab who has the ability to test for Dbol needes a standard to test against so they obviously would have to be able to get it from somewhere. I can think of two companies that still make. So "if" a Dr wanted to prescribe it, then all you need to do would be able to find a pharmacy who would be willing to order the raw material. Methandrostenelone was and is approved by the FDA so theroretically a Dr can prescribe it for you just lke any other steroid.
is Bovine Growth H in demand as much as HGH
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is Bovine Growth H in demand as much as HGH
I cant keep my cows off the stuff.. >:(
Im callin' Sen Mitchel about it to do an investigation...
He'll make them cows talk...
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BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the drug section? ::)
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I think most people get HRT, maybe 200 of test cyp every other week. But what they do is get 3 month supply or a 10 cc bottle and stash it, get one or two more, etc from other docs, then you have a legal cycle.
I belive this is what most pro wrestlers do...
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if that's the case, why do some on GB believe that a script makes their illegal drug use.......legal ?
Because a DOCTOR who has been Authorized by the FDA to dispense medication, AND TAKEN THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH, has deemed it fit to prescribe said medication. That's the whole fucking point of a prescription you idiot, so Joe Dickface can't walk into GNC and buy Oxy's cuz he twisted his ankle. Doctor takes 100% responsibilty, and if you can find a "flexible" one (they are out there,trust me ;)), lucky you.
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Wow I seriously overestimate the intelligence of people..i'm truly sorry I get upset ..some people just cant seem to grasp concepts on this board. Theres no point in trying to teach a pig Spanish and theres no point in trying to explain this to some of you. No matter how many times its pointed out your just going to scratch your ass and go back to the original point. Sorry for wasting your time and mine.
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so if i'm caught with prescribed vials and pins, it would be legal ?
yup
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Wow I seriously overestimate the intelligence of people..i'm truly sorry I get upset ..some people just cant seem to grasp concepts on this board. Theres no point in trying to teach a pig Spanish and theres no point in trying to explain this to some of you. No matter how many times its pointed out your just going to scratch your ass and go back to the original point. Sorry for wasting your time and mine.
It's you who is stupid. Did a search on your posts and in one post you say "anti aging is a legal use of steroids". This is wrong, period. Anabolic steroids and GH for "anti aging" is NOT a legal reason to prescribe steroids. Yes, there are many places that prescribe these drugs for "anti aging" but they are also shut down frequently. In the case of growth hormone, even replacing "low levels" is a very gray area. Strictly speaking it's only approved for growth disorders, HIV treatment, if you have a pituitary tumor, etc.
If I'm wrong then gh15's prediction of steroids getting less regulated is ALREADY a reality. Every juicer has a low test count after a cycle. All of them could then pick up their legal stack of Test, Deca, Dbol and GH and it would be perfectly legal.
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try it like this...its you who are stupid...if your going to insult use English correctly..you dont know law or medical practice ..theres no point in talking to you..you dont seem to understand the concept.
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try it like this...its you who are stupid...if your going to insult use English correctly..you dont know law or medical practice ..theres no point in talking to you..you dont seem to understand the concept.
I'm not a Native English speaker so forgive me ::) You could use spell check yourself ;)
Steroids are not legal to prescribe for "any reason the doctor deems fit".
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Ok i'm going to let you in on a secret..My brother is an MD ..if he says theres a medical reason for a person to be on roids its going to take a board of doctors to overrule his medical judgment...not a judge not a cop and certainly not any idiot on a friggin bodybuilding board.
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Ok i'm going to let you in on a secret..My brother is an MD ..if he says theres a medical reason for a person to be on roids its going to take a board of doctors to overrule his medical judgment...not a judge not a cop and certainly not any idiot on a friggin bodybuilding board.
You are correct, a Dr can prescribe "off label" as he sees fit. (USA)
They dont need a " official indication" if there is another use other that it (Med) was developed for...
Many drugs are found to be usefull for things WAY different than originally intended.
(ANd often useless for what they were made for ;D)
However, pressuer is put on them regarding certain items that become political. Then they make extra sure they have
all the proper records/ tests etc in place. (If they handle it at all)
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It's you who is stupid. Did a search on your posts and in one post you say "anti aging is a legal use of steroids". This is wrong, period. Anabolic steroids and GH for "anti aging" is NOT a legal reason to prescribe steroids. Yes, there are many places that prescribe these drugs for "anti aging" but they are also shut down frequently. In the case of growth hormone, even replacing "low levels" is a very gray area. Strictly speaking it's only approved for growth disorders, HIV treatment, if you have a pituitary tumor, etc.
If I'm wrong then gh15's prediction of steroids getting less regulated is ALREADY a reality. Every juicer has a low test count after a cycle. All of them could then pick up their legal stack of Test, Deca, Dbol and GH and it would be perfectly legal.
Interesting.
Anyone know how Zuke the Nuke's Anti-Aging clinic is doing these days?
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Anyone know how Zuke the Nuke's Anti-Aging clinic is doing these days?
Joe probably knows :D