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Title: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 12:06:46 AM
According to Japan Today -( 2 hours ago)http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/424522 (http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/424522)

This is only  update in Japanese news-report about Hide's arrest since Dec 8.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: timfogarty on January 09, 2008, 12:19:00 AM
they still don't say what it was and how much.

the thing is where was he coming from?  it seems unlikely that it was from Japan, as it is a lot harder to get stuff into Japan.  Much more valuable in Japan too. (yes there is a market for it)  Maybe a connecting flight from Thailand or China, and never went through Japanese customs.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 12:28:54 AM
they still don't say what it was and how much.

the thing is where was he coming from?  it seems unlikely that it was from Japan, as it is a lot harder to get stuff into Japan.  Much more valuable in Japan too. (yes there is a market for it)  Maybe a connecting flight from Thailand or China, and never went through Japanese customs.
According to DEA :Now 90% illegal steroids from Ch**a !!!
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
they still don't say what it was and how much.

the thing is where was he coming from?  it seems unlikely that it was from Japan, as it is a lot harder to get stuff into Japan.  Much more valuable in Japan too. (yes there is a market for it)  Maybe a connecting flight from Thailand or China, and never went through Japanese customs.

He did not get stuff INTO Japan, he got stuff OUT of Japan. BIIIIG difference.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 12:53:45 AM
He did not get stuff INTO Japan, he got stuff OUT of Japan. BIIIIG difference.
Certainly, Thats a huge matter and shocking for all of us(japs).
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 01:11:17 AM
Certainly, Thats a huge matter and shocking for all of us(japs).

Did you read the RKS statement? Sounded pretty harsh if ask me, yet typically japanese.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 01:25:13 AM
Did you read the RKS statement? Sounded pretty harsh if ask me, yet typically japanese.
Yeah.Typical statement by japanese. There is nothing to do about it for them more than making statement like that. :'(
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 01:58:21 AM
Yeah.Typical statement by japanese. There is nothing to do about it for them more than making statement like that. :'(
First in their mind :protect themself first (everything .politics as same )!!
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 02:06:54 AM
First in their mind :protect themself first (everything .politics as same )!!
You will act like them if it happens to you and your gym and your family. ;)
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 02:10:55 AM
You will act like them if it happens to you and your gym and your family. ;)
But they even worse
Because they react to this event too fast .
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 02:14:59 AM
But they even worse
Because they react to this event too fast .

No, they reacted just in time.

The damage is already done, if Hides is proven guilty before a court or not is irrellevant. He is connected to criminals now. possession of steroids, smuggling and so on, this stain will remain with him forever.

In a 100 years, they will still write "The first japanese IFBB pro and Mr Olympia competitor Yamagishi brought great shame over japanese bodybuilding and the japanese people" and they will actually feel like that.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 02:19:23 AM
No, they reacted just in time.

The damage is already done, if Hides is proven guilty before a court or not is irrellevant. He is connected to criminals now. possession of steroids, smuggling and so on, this stain will remain with him forever.

In a 100 years, they will still write "The first japanese IFBB pro and Mr Olympia competitor Yamagishi brought great shame over japanese bodybuilding and the japanese people" and they will actually feel like that.
Hmmmnn......
Maybe you are right
Because this is first & biggest  scandal in Japan's bodybuilding history .


Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 02:26:43 AM
Hmmmnn......
Maybe you are right
Because this is first & biggest  scandal in Japan's bodybuilding history .



But most great Japanese bodybuilders like Kozo Sudo ,Sugita san ,Konuma san ......they are my hero !!!







Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 02:44:23 AM
But most great Japanese bodybuilders like Kozo Sudo ,Sugita san ,Konuma san ......they are my hero !!!








I know Sugita personaly very very much and i always respect him like God.
I always remember what he uset to say "Hey,thats a stereotype!"(そんなん固定観念や!).
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 02:46:52 AM
And For me,Sugita is greater than Hide. Because He was a overall Universe champ.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 02:53:33 AM
And For me,Sugita is greater than Hide. Because He was a overall Universe champ.
They are all true bodybuilding great legends !!!

I met Konuma san at intl's contests many times and I believe he is natural !
He is 13 times Japan's overall-winners !!!
(in amateur days ,Hide never beat Konuma san)
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: Stark on January 09, 2008, 03:04:35 AM
Hope the guy goes to Prison fucking drugpushers
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 03:08:55 AM
Here is Toshio Konuma(小沼敏雄)'s posing at 2006 World's master.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJM38DR7Is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJM38DR7Is)
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 03:12:22 AM
Here is Toshio Konuma(小沼敏雄)'s posing at 2006 World's master.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJM38DR7Is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJM38DR7Is)
I am sorry. But I always didnt like his physic. ARms too small.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 03:25:05 AM
I know Sugita personaly very very much and i always respect him like God.
I always remember what he uset to say "Hey,thats a stereotype!"(そんなん固定観念や!).

Thanks for giving the japanese too, kyomu!

Here is Toshio Konuma(小沼敏雄)'s posing at 2006 World's master.


Shit, use the youtube button.  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2008, 03:48:23 AM
I know Sugita personaly very very much and i always respect him like God.

really?  you respect another man like God?
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 03:54:16 AM
really?  you respect another man like God?
Hehe. Of course,in certain reason. In your reason i dont respect anybody including God. Cus sometime i can see the existance of this universe it self very pathetic.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 04:01:54 AM
really?  you respect another man like God?

Don't forget kyomu is asian please.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 04:30:06 AM
I hope Hide is able to clear his name and return home after his court date on the 23rd.
And I hope everything will be ok !
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: dr.chimps on January 09, 2008, 04:51:34 AM
Certainly, Thats a huge matter and shocking for all of us(japs).
Hey kyomu. What do the average Japanese think about bodybuilding? Are they aware of it? If they are, what would they think of Hide and his situation?

/i love the japanese gameshows. you guys are crazy  :)
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 09, 2008, 04:55:17 AM
It must really suck to be a bodybuilder and get busted for selling/transporting "gear"

everyone knows that they do but to actually have it document is a whole other thing. From this time on whenever his name is mentioned so will his "bust"

Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: Monster81 on January 09, 2008, 04:59:51 AM
But most great Japanese bodybuilders like Kozo Sudo ,Sugita san ,Konuma san ......they are my hero !!!









ok now, so go ahead and tell us these bbers ar natural !!
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 05:28:50 AM
Hey kyomu. What do the average Japanese think about bodybuilding? Are they aware of it? If they are, what would they think of Hide and his situation?

/i love the japanese gameshows. you guys are crazy  :)
Gross. They think the body of BBers are very gross. I think many dont aware of this matter.
What they think if they know? Same as here. STUPID. Cus I think. Even my mom said that when we talked about this topic.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 05:32:16 AM
Gross. They think the body of BBers are very gross. I think many dont aware of this matter.
What they think if they know? Same as here. STUPID. Cus I think. Even my mom said that when we talked about this topic.

It's the same all over the world.

Show a pic of Ronnie, Jason or Dorian to anyone on this planet who's not bodybilding and they will say "gross".
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 05:35:30 AM
It's the same all over the world.

Show a pic of Ronnie, Jason or Dorian to anyone on this planet who's not bodybilding and they will say "gross".
But japan more than another country. But telling the truth,chicks like big muscle guys in japan also. No doubt.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: timfogarty on January 09, 2008, 05:39:41 AM
He did not get stuff INTO Japan, he got stuff OUT of Japan. BIIIIG difference.

you missed my point.  steroids/gh are so much harder to get in Japan.  they're not manufactured there, so they had to have been brought in from Thailand or China.  why would they smuggle them out?  They are of more value on the streets of Tokyo.

reminds me of a muscular friend of a friend coming from Germany to the US.  The guy at customs asked him directly "Are you bringing anabolic steroids into the US?"    The guy answered "Are you kidding?  I'm hoping to find some and bring them back (to Germany)."
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 05:53:55 AM
you missed my point.  steroids/gh are so much harder to get in Japan.  they're not manufactured there, so they had to have been brought in from Thailand or China.  why would they smuggle them out?  They are of more value on the streets of Tokyo.

reminds me of a muscular friend of a friend coming from Germany to the US.  The guy at customs asked him directly "Are you bringing anabolic steroids into the US?"    The guy answered "Are you kidding?  I'm hoping to find some and bring them back (to Germany)."

Maybe kyomu can help a bit on this, i'm ot so familiar with the situation of roids in japan.

From what i know, roids are way cheaper in both Japan and germany than in the US. But as i said, i don't know very much about this.
I think the normal price for 250mg test medical grade is about 3-4 euros, homebrew is waaaaay cheaper. Don't know the prices in Japan, but the below linked blog says in japan roids are dirt cheap.  ??? ???

http://pump.mo-blog.jp/asuran/
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:00:04 AM
Maybe kyomu can help a bit on this, i'm ot so familiar with the situation of roids in japan.

From what i know, roids are way cheaper in both Japan and germany than in the US. But as i said, i don't know very much about this.
I think the normal price for 250mg test medical grade is about 3-4 euros, homebrew is waaaaay cheaper. Don't know the prices in Japan, but the below linked blog says in japan roids are dirt cheap.  ??? ???

http://pump.mo-blog.jp/asuran/
Oh my god!!!! How did you get this link!? This is a great link. Thanx!!
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:03:30 AM
Oh my god!!!! How did you get this link!? This is a great link. Thanx!!

some idiot on a german board must have copy pasted it from somewhere.

I just read a bit there, but it sounded like crap. why is it good?
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:07:05 AM
some idiot on a german board must have copy pasted it from somewhere.

I just read a bit there, but it sounded like crap. why is it good?
Because why he know this? Did you know this detail?

山岸は油性の注射剤のバイアル・成長ホルモンのアンプルを大量に所持していた。
液体のバイアルをたくさん、このため運悪くピックアップされたのであろう。なので運よければそのまま無事に入国できたわけだ。このことから推測すれば山岸氏が今回が始めてではない可能性が浮上してくる。

これは経口剤(錠剤)のステロイドを粉末にし特殊な溶液でとかして紙に塗り乾燥させた代物である。錠剤とはいえ容器に入っているので税関でストップになりやすい。紙に塗りつけることにより“手紙”と同じになり封筒の中にきれいにおさまり税関をスルーできる。

Interesting..
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:20:37 AM
Because why he know this? Did you know this detail?

山岸は油性の注射剤のバイアル・成長ホルモンのアンプルを大量に所持していた。
液体のバイアルをたくさん、このため運悪くピックアップされたのであろう。なので運よければそのまま無事に入国できたわけだ。このことから推測すれば山岸氏が今回が始めてではない可能性が浮上してくる。

これは経口剤(錠剤)のステロイドを粉末にし特殊な溶液でとかして紙に塗り乾燥させた代物である。錠剤とはいえ容器に入っているので税関でストップになりやすい。紙に塗りつけることにより“手紙”と同じになり封筒の中にきれいにおさまり税関をスルーできる。

Interesting..

Yes, but i thought it was hearsay or rather common knowledge of smugglers.

Hide is in deep shit it seems. If this is true, he is fucked. 5 years maybe.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:29:20 AM
Yes, but i thought it was hearsay or rather common knowledge of smugglers.

Hide is in deep shit it seems. If this is true, he is fucked. 5 years maybe.
U know,i am an innocent natural bber ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:33:22 AM
U know,i am an innocent natural bber ;D

This is the interesting part i think "このことから推測すれば山岸氏が今回が始めてではない可能性が浮上してくる"

It wasn't the first time.

btw, what do you make of the article 筋肉増強剤天国の日本??
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:38:20 AM
This is the interesting part i think "このことから推測すれば山岸氏が今回が始めてではない可能性が浮上してくる"

It wasn't the first time.

btw, what do you make of the article 筋肉増強剤天国の日本??
Yeah. Its getting clear that he was a "Pipe" for supplying juice to cxxxxxm gym!? :-X
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:42:12 AM
Yeah. Its getting clear that he was a "Pipe" for supplying juice to cxxxxxm gym!? :-X

Straight from china to Japan to California, that blog maybe gave the missing link.

Shit, i just feel awfully sorry for Hide's parents and his girlfriend. As far as i know Japan, it could even destroy his parents social life and his gf's career.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:45:21 AM
Straight from china to Japan to California, that blog maybe gave the missing link.

Shit, i just feel awfully sorry for Hide's parents and his girlfriend. As far as i know Japan, it could even destroy his parents social life and his gf's career.
Mmmmm the social life of his parents...yes.
As for his girl friend, she is not his wife.So its ok.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:47:31 AM
Mmmmm the social life of his parents...yes.
As for his girl friend, she is not his wife.So its ok.

okay, at least something.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: musclecenter on January 09, 2008, 06:49:54 AM
Yeah. Its getting clear that he was a "Pipe" for supplying juice to cxxxxxm gym!? :-X
Let's not put another count on Hide.
The poor guy has enough problems .
Thanks
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 06:53:24 AM
Let's not put another count on Hide.
The poor guy has enough problems .
Thanks

Stop crying old man.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 06:56:48 AM
Let's not put another count on Hide.
The poor guy has enough problems .
Thanks
Do you call him poor who betray and make people cry like numerous fans , his family, his girl friend and his sponsor...etc?
Are you OK?
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: benz on January 09, 2008, 06:59:04 AM
Do you call him poor who betray and make people cry like numerous fans , his family, his girl friend and his sponsor...etc?
Are you OK?


Hide is lucky this is not iraq, else he would have been hanged @ street
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: emn1964 on January 09, 2008, 07:05:15 AM
Hide is lucky this is not iraq, else he would have been hanged @ street

Shit, he's lucky he's not back in nippon.  he has no idea how lucky he was to get caught in us and some other country.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: benz on January 09, 2008, 07:16:53 AM
Shit, he's lucky he's not back in nippon.  he has no idea how lucky he was to get caught in us and some other country.

What we can conclude now is:

Hide is lucky he didnt get busted @ japan else he would be dead/banned from society already
Hide is lucky he didnt get busted @ iraq else he would be hanged already
America is the land of the freedom and opportunities because if he have 180k he could be a free man again

You see haters, AMERICA is the land of opportunities, even for a criminal like hide  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 07:24:02 AM
What we can conclude now is:

Hide is lucky he didnt get busted @ japan else he would be dead/banned from society already
Hide is lucky he didnt get busted @ iraq else he would be hanged already
America is the land of the freedom and opportunities because if he have 180k he could be a free man again

You see haters, AMERICA is the land of opportunities, even for a criminal like hide  ;D
Hey u guys americans think that u guys are only civilized huh?
There are much more death penalty in us than japan. Hope this help.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: dr.chimps on January 09, 2008, 09:04:44 AM
Hey u guys americans think that u guys are only civilized huh?
There are much more death penalty in us than japan. Hope this help.
Hmm. The real problem (human rights-wise) with the death penalty in Japan is you never know when you will die. They just show up at your cell and that's it. *BAM*
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 09:10:43 AM
Hmm. The real problem (human rights-wise) with the death penalty in Japan is you never know when you will die. They just show up at your cell and that's it. *BAM*
MMmmmm I thought our death penalty wasnt shooting. Who told you that?
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: dr.chimps on January 09, 2008, 09:20:54 AM
MMmmmm I thought our death penalty wasnt shooting. Who told you that?
No, they are hanged. I meant *bam* as in right now! No last phone call, no brushing teeth, no prayer. *BAM*

/family only informed afterwards, etc.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: kyomu on January 09, 2008, 09:22:57 AM
No, they are hanged. I meant *bam* as in right now! No last phone call, no brushing teeth, no prayer. *BAM*

/family only informed afterwards, etc.
i see. i heard its true. i will investigate about it.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 09:29:24 AM
death penalty sucks anyways.

So many innocent got killed with that too.
Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: DK II on January 09, 2008, 09:35:36 AM
Check this shit out, kyomu!

Hi,HIDE! :wav:

お疲れ様です :)

次に向かって、頑張ります!!! :D

今回もまた、色々お世話になりました・・・100ドル・・・ :occasion6:

無事、LAX空港まで行けました ;)

Thanks :blob1:




Hi,Binais-san!

Thanks for your message ;D

Sincerely yours :blob1:

Title: Re: Bodybuilder nabbed at LA airport ("update"news from Japan)
Post by: Faust on January 09, 2008, 09:41:45 AM
Hehe. Of course,in certain reason. In your reason i dont respect anybody including God. Cus sometime i can see the existance of this universe it self very pathetic.
Some deep shit on this board lately.

What exactly was he busted with? I'm not really up to date on this thing.