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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SteelePegasus on January 14, 2008, 06:02:23 PM
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12/19/2007 - Unfortunately, this Professional Supplements product has been discontinued.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prosup/vit.html
does anyone know why it was discontinued?
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Maybe the company went out of business. There are plenty of other waxy maize products out there, though; try Torrent from Universal.
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I dunno but I couldnt get it like 7 months ago. Im using waxy maize by bioengineered now
i think i heard the company was folding ???
its a shame it was good product
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P.I.P.
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Maybe the company went out of business. There are plenty of other waxy maize products out there, though; try Torrent from Universal.
3.28 Lbs. Cherry Berry Blast
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Scoop(~99g)
Servings Per Container15
Amount Per Serving % DV
Calories 302
Calories From Fat 14
Total Fat 1.5g 9%*
Saturated Fat 1g 6%
Total Carbohydrate 52g 17%
Sugars 26g **
Protein 20g 40%
Calcium 112mg 11%
Sodium 127mg 5%
Potassium 192mg 6%
Torrent Proprietary Blend 18,000mg **
Anti-Catabolic Leucine Complex 8000mg **
L-Leucine **
Leucine Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG) **
Leucine Ethyl Ester **
N-Acetyl Leucine **
Volubolic Amino Blend 7000mg **
Taurine **
Glutamine Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG) **
L-Phenylalanine **
Citulline Malate **
Creabolic Complex 3000mg **
Creatine Monohydrate **
Creatine Ethyl Ester (CEE) **
Magnesium Creatine Chelate™ (MCC) **
Tri-Methyl Glycine (TMG)
it contains both mono and ethyl? also them seem to have thrown everything including the kitchen sink into..can't they just keep it simple??
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3.28 Lbs. Cherry Berry Blast
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Scoop(~99g)
Servings Per Container15
Amount Per Serving % DV
Calories 302
Calories From Fat 14
Total Fat 1.5g 9%*
Saturated Fat 1g 6%
Total Carbohydrate 52g 17%
Sugars 26g **
Protein 20g 40%
Calcium 112mg 11%
Sodium 127mg 5%
Potassium 192mg 6%
Torrent Proprietary Blend 18,000mg **
Anti-Catabolic Leucine Complex 8000mg **
L-Leucine **
Leucine Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG) **
Leucine Ethyl Ester **
N-Acetyl Leucine **
Volubolic Amino Blend 7000mg **
Taurine **
Glutamine Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG) **
L-Phenylalanine **
Citulline Malate **
Creabolic Complex 3000mg **
Creatine Monohydrate **
Creatine Ethyl Ester (CEE) **
Magnesium Creatine Chelate™ (MCC) **
Tri-Methyl Glycine (TMG)
it contains both mono and ethyl? also them seem to have thrown everything including the kitchen sink into..can't they just keep it simple??
it's fantastic stuff, i got to try out a free bottle of it, the only problem is that the shake ends up being thick as fucck because they want you to use 3 scoops and they're pretty big scoops.
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Squad did u notice better recovery taking it?
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it's fantastic stuff, i got to try out a free bottle of it, the only problem is that the shake ends up being thick as fucck because they want you to use 3 scoops and they're pretty big scoops.
do you add Whey to it? clearly it doesn't need any more EAA
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it's fantastic stuff, i got to try out a free bottle of it, the only problem is that the shake ends up being thick as fucck because they want you to use 3 scoops and they're pretty big scoops.
yeah, I'm not a big fan as far as supplements go anymore, but Torrent would definitly be something ideal to have post-workout, especially during a bulking phase
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Squad did u notice better recovery taking it?
yeah i got a little stronger and felt fuller most of the time.
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do you add Whey to it? clearly it doesn't need any more EAA
no you shouldn't need any whey, the idea should be to down this shake and then eat a meal 45 minutes or so later, that's what i did.
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yeah i got a little stronger and felt fuller most of the time.
thanks
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do you add Whey to it? clearly it doesn't need any more EAA
NO!!! It severely jacks the molarity of the WMS, which negates its main benefit.
Jason
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12/19/2007 - Unfortunately, this Professional Supplements product has been discontinued.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prosup/vit.html
does anyone know why it was discontinued?
I'm pretty sure that was art atwoods company, as for why they went under...??
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it's fantastic stuff, i got to try out a free bottle of it, the only problem is that the shake ends up being thick as fucck because they want you to use 3 scoops and they're pretty big scoops.
The thickness is the WMS. The Pure Vitargo, which IMHO is inferior to the TP.com brand, will turn to concrete if you dont drink it as fast as possible.
Jason
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The thickness is the WMS. The Pure Vitargo, which IMHO is inferior to the TP.com brand, will turn to concrete if you dont drink it as fast as possible.
Jason
i'll tell you this the taste is AWESOME, it was like having a dessert right after you trained, i got to the point where i looked forward to it.
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The thickness is the WMS. The Pure Vitargo, which IMHO is inferior to the TP.com brand, will turn to concrete if you dont drink it as fast as possible.
Jason
I stopped taking all supplements a few months ago and now I am feeling weaker. Now I want to start taking a PWO shake again
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i'll tell you this the taste is AWESOME, it was like having a dessert right after you trained, i got to the point where i looked forward to it.
You can get the flavor packs from blackstarlabs.com IIRC, Dave, the owner, does a majority of all supp flavoring out there. Alot of people dont realize that WMS has no taste, just a chalky mouth feel.
Jason
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do you add Whey to it? clearly it doesn't need any more EAA
I only see 2 EAA's in there (out of the 9 EAA's). If you subscribe to the EAA pre/post workout theory I'd think you'd want all of them present at the same time.
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I'm pretty sure that was art atwoods company, as for why they went under...??
This was Art Atwoods product line. He had the rights to Pure Vitargo but he got busted not too long ago. After he got busted, could not get the product anymore.
Waxy is 1/2 the cost of Vitargo and virtually the same thing. One comes from corn and one from wheat I believe and not sure why Vitargo would be twice as much!!
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Waxy is 1/2 the cost of Vitargo and virtually the same thing. One comes from corn and one from wheat I believe and not sure why Vitargo would be twice as much!!
Vitargo is using barley now, I believe. The reason for the cost is, I think, that they funded the studies to show how it works. The studies add credibility to the product so they can charge more. AFAIK there are tons of different types of Waxy Maize and a company like TP can't really prove it works as well as Vitargo.
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Vitargo is using barley now, I believe. The reason for the cost is, I think, that they funded the studies to show how it works. The studies add credibility to the product so they can charge more. AFAIK there are tons of different types of Waxy Maize and a company like TP can't really prove it works as well as Vitargo.
It is completely emperical here, but Ive used both and found TP's to be vastly superior.
Jason
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I stopped taking all supplements a few months ago and now I am feeling weaker. Now I want to start taking a PWO shake again
i think it was when your boyfriend stopped making you a warm vanilla shake every morning.
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Vitargo is using barley now, I believe. The reason for the cost is, I think, that they funded the studies to show how it works. The studies add credibility to the product so they can charge more. AFAIK there are tons of different types of Waxy Maize and a company like TP can't really prove it works as well as Vitargo.
That makes sense and I think I remember hearing something about that, vaguely.
But, I have used both and notice no difference from Waxy vs. Vitargo other than Waxy is a mess, like scooping out flour :D
I assume you guys are refering to TP as True Protein? I am using IDS and so far so good...
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It is completely emperical here, but Ive used both and found TP's to be vastly superior.
Jason
How was it better? What I'm talking about is the speed at which it replenishes muscle glycogen. That's hard to feel. If you aren't concerned about this so much you might as well buy maltodextrin.
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That makes sense and I think I remember hearing something about that, vaguely.
But, I have used both and notice no difference from Waxy vs. Vitargo other than Waxy is a mess, like scooping out flour :D
I assume you guys are refering to TP as True Protein? I am using IDS and so far so good...
That is what Im reffering to, yes. PM's Pure Vitargo reminded me of metamucil, both in texture and taste. I didnt care for it at all.
Jason
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How was it better? What I'm talking about is the speed at which it replenishes muscle glycogen. That's hard to feel. If you aren't concerned about this so much you might as well buy maltodextrin.
Im well aware of the desired effect of the product, and I said it was empirical, I should've included subjective as well. My apologies. I actually just posted the main differences for me...That is what Im reffering to, yes. PM's Pure Vitargo reminded me of metamucil, both in texture and taste. I didnt care for it at all.
Jason
Jason
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that TP site is pretty cool..
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I love this stuff as well, Ajinamoto makes some damn good amino's!
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Pure Vitargo just got discontinued on bodybuilding.com but you can still find it on its original website. I have taken it with good results. Though, it is expensive. I switched to waxy maize starch.
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I order Vitargo from Sweden, it's expensive, but it's the best stuff around for my athletes, and yes, better than Milos' "snake oil"!
http://www.vitargo.com/Engelsk/Vitargo/vitind_eng.htm
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30 units of unflavored Vitargo are still available on prosupps.com for now.
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Both products have worked really well for me but for some reason my body doesn't seem to process Waxy Maize very well. Talk about severe gas............
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I like the Torrent,good stuff for me.
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Pure Vitargo just got discontinued on bodybuilding.com but you can still find it on its original website. I have taken it with good results. Though, it is expensive. I switched to waxy maize starch.
was it discontinued because sales were slow or legal issues?
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was it discontinued because sales were slow or legal issues?
In all honesty, I do not know. You can find pure vitargo here:
http://www.1fast400.com/p1780_Pure_Vitargo_Professional_Supplements.html OR here
http://www.professionalsupplements.net/default.asp
I switched to waxy maize starch by IDS. The pure vitargo is too expensive.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/wax.html
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They discontinued the line because it was too expensive to manufacture. You have to think of all the ingredients that go in there.
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They discontinued the line because it was too expensive to manufacture. You have to think of all the ingredients that go in there.
What ingredients? It's just carb powder and flavoring.
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was it discontinued because sales were slow or legal issues?
Sure a lot had to do with Art Atwoods leagal issues. He has the rights but sure that will change now, then you will see it again. However, Waxy Maize is cheaper and more prevelant now.
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is vitargo a steroid?
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is vitargo a steroid?
NO!!