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Title: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: Lift Studios on January 15, 2008, 06:10:15 PM
My fellow expert, Ron "Yogi" Avidan posted his thoughts on the newest Phil Heath photos:
http://www.getbig.com/headlines/2008/01/15/ironman-pro-phil-heath-game-over-pics/

I would agree with one thing Yogi had to say. Phil looks like a cartoon character and this is just under 5 weeks out.

 :o

http://www.flexonline.com/news/286
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: theworm on January 15, 2008, 06:13:58 PM
I don't think i ever said this on getbig, but....


damn, very impressive.  Hope he can hold it.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: SF1900 on January 15, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
WOW, he is looking really good, especially his arms. CRAZY!!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 15, 2008, 06:16:22 PM
My fellow expert, Ron "Yogi" Avidan posted his thoughts on the newest Phil Heath photos:
http://www.getbig.com/headlines/2008/01/15/ironman-pro-phil-heath-game-over-pics/

I would agree with one thing Yogi had to say. Phil looks like a cartoon character and this is just under 5 weeks out.

 :o

http://www.flexonline.com/news/286

Damn he looks good , he needed to add some size and he sure did .
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: gordiano on January 15, 2008, 06:23:09 PM
Those looked shopped....
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
Heath is peaking too early.  he'll be flat at the arnold.  quote me on it.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: ATHEIST on January 15, 2008, 06:26:29 PM
Those looked shopped....
thats what i was thinking, but if its not...good gaaawd!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: pumpher on January 15, 2008, 06:29:09 PM
He definitely looks like he put on some quality size and arms look crazy.

But most pro BBers look good standing alone... But I think he should place in top 3.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Lift Studios on January 15, 2008, 06:31:31 PM
Heath is peaking too early.  he'll be flat at the arnold.  quote me on it.
unpredictable response from a loyal MD supporter. He is focused on the IRONMAN, how about we watch that show first.  ;)

I took the photos and they are not shopped but yet another predictable response.  8) A few training videos will be posted up along the way on FLEXONLINE. They will speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on January 15, 2008, 06:31:56 PM
Okay, I'm done.

What's the point?

Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 06:35:05 PM
Roundest fullest muscle since Flex Wheeler. He did the work and 2008 is going to be his year. 1st at Ironman and 1st or 2nd at the Arnold and Olympia top 4.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 06:36:33 PM
unpredictable response from a loyal MD supporter. He is focused on the IRONMAN, how about we watch that show first.  ;)

I took the photos and they are not shopped but yet another predictable response.  8) A few training videos will be posted up along the way on FLEXONLINE. They will speak for themselves.

1. He'll pull out of the Ironman after spilling over

2. He'll take 3rd at the Arnold (a gift for the gift) after coming in flat as a pancake.  his stress levels will be thru the roof like last year.  he's just a little kid still... he got rattled in 2007.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Pollux on January 15, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
Fuckin' ayyyyyy!  :o
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
1. He'll pull out of the Ironman after spilling over

2. He'll take 3rd at the Arnold (a gift for the gift) after coming in flat as a pancake.  his stress levels will be thru the roof like last year.  he's just a little kid still... he got rattled in 2007.


Phil has never been 'off'.  8)
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: busyB on January 15, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
1. He'll pull out of the Ironman after spilling over

2. He'll take 3rd at the Arnold (a gift for the gift) after coming in flat as a pancake.  his stress levels will be thru the roof like last year.  he's just a little kid still... he got rattled in 2007.


Stress, what stress?? Phil is about as cool as they come bro.

Only thing he will be "pulling" is straight firsts
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 06:42:16 PM
Phil has never been 'off'.  8)

he was skinny and soft at last year's arnold.  as the day went on, he got stressed and looked bad during finals.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: m8 on January 15, 2008, 06:48:35 PM
Ok, he won.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: busyB on January 15, 2008, 06:52:51 PM
he was skinny and soft at last year's arnold.  as the day went on, he got stressed and looked bad during finals.

Ahhhh hhaaaaa!! Skinny and soft? Maybe a bit flat but not skinny....
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 06:53:37 PM
he was skinny and soft at last year's arnold.  as the day went on, he got stressed and looked bad during finals.

Skinny? No IFBB bb is 'skinny'. Lighter yes. Soft? What show were you watching maybe the UFC fighting? Phil was the hardest guy in the show next to Dexter.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: England_1 on January 15, 2008, 06:55:17 PM
Watch the 07AC Heath posing routine. I thought he was in great condition until they zoomed in and he was very soft looking. Personally I think he needs to focus more on achieving a granite hardness more so than just adding more and more mass. He might end up making the same mistake Flex did.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: saucetradomous on January 15, 2008, 06:55:48 PM
madmax is to Jay Cutler as Lift Studios is to Phil Heath... conclusion = mancrush

Heath looks rather dapper I must say
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
Watch the 07AC Heath posing routine. I thought he was in great condition until they zoomed in and he was very soft looking. Personally I think he needs to focus more on achieving a granite hardness more so than just adding more and more mass. He might end up making the same mistake Flex did.

Grainy is genetic. Ronnie was never grainy but Dorian was but Ronnie was far from soft. If your glutes and hams are striated you really can't get any harder because they are last to come in. Phil's condioning is like Flex's at his best which was not grainy but hard as nails with the great shape.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: England_1 on January 15, 2008, 07:00:45 PM
Grainy is genetic. Ronnie was never grainy but Dorian was but Ronnie was far from soft. If your glutes and hams are striated you really can't get any harder because they are last to come in. Phil's condioning is like Flex's at his best which was not grainy but hard as nails with the great shape.

Phil was no where near hard as nails. Once he achieves that condition he can win the big ones against bigger guys, just like Flex could have won the Olympia if he achieved his 93AC condition again.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 07:02:46 PM
Geez, what a difference.........espec ially in his face, it's almost totally different. He looks awesome, but that insulin is really f**king him up!!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: figgs on January 15, 2008, 07:03:04 PM
Damn, he looks like a fucking science experiment. I can't wait to see the end result.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 07:03:40 PM
I thought that nobody could match Dexter in the side chest but Phil is looking incredible. It looks almost like he is so full he is going to explode like DJ does in those precontecst gym shots.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: pumpher on January 15, 2008, 07:08:47 PM
He does look great (in these shots standing alone)

To me his biggest weakness was his back width compared to say, Vic

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Thealmightyronald on January 15, 2008, 07:10:14 PM
He does look great (in these shots standing alone)

To me his biggest weakness was his back width compared to say, Vic



Yeah too bad there's not back shots here.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: swilkins1984 on January 15, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
Okay these are Phil's Arnold pics from MD. Other than putting on more muscle pic a flaw? I can't  ??? Phil probably never will be grainy its just not in his genetics. He was certainly better than Gustavo but the other guys were in the same shape and bigger.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
oh shit...

i forgot phil heath was living with jay cutler.

he's been hitting jay's magic insulin formula, with better genes, higher test levels, and fresh receptors.

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Iraclese on January 15, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
Those pics are taken at funny angles he hasn't improved that much.  It's just perspective.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 15, 2008, 07:33:43 PM
Just one thing matter ....how you look come show time.....Dennis James would be a 5 times Olympia winner if the show was base on his preview pics....As it has been seen on this site over and over Preview pics are a Great hype tool....not a judging one.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 15, 2008, 07:34:36 PM
Geez, what a difference.........espec ially in his face, it's almost totally different. He looks awesome, but that insulin is really f**king him up!!
You really love insulin don't you?  :D

GH jaw is now to be called insulin jaw  :D

But seriously, what do you think the insulin is doing to his face?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Spicy Shushi on January 15, 2008, 07:40:07 PM
Blechman doesn't know whether to jerk off or shit himself after seeing these photos.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Parker on January 15, 2008, 07:45:13 PM
Just one thing matter ....how you look come show time.....Dennis James would be a 5 times Olympia winner if the show was base on his preview pics....As it has been seen on this site over and over Preview pics are a Great hype tool....not a judging one.

Quite true, but didn't Heath win his first two pro shows...shades of Flex Wheeler right there, because he won his first 4 pro shows. But I do agree, wait till show time...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: MADMAX6 on January 15, 2008, 07:48:51 PM
Blechman doesn't know whether to jerk off or shit himself after seeing these photos.
Now that's actually funny! ;D
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: gmflex on January 15, 2008, 07:49:25 PM
he looks good;but the day of the show is when it counts ;)
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2008, 07:53:22 PM
Phil looks like a cartoon character and this is just under 5 weeks out.

Hi Phil.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 07:56:29 PM
Geez, what a difference.........espec ially in his face, it's almost totally different. He looks awesome, but that insulin is really f**king him up!!

I think he is a pretty handsome dude
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 08:00:55 PM
Hi Phil.

Hi Fill.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:01:33 PM
Blechman doesn't know whether to jerk off or shit himself after seeing these photos.

LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2008, 08:02:17 PM
Do you guys think Phil is approaching Levrone's level?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
Do you guys think Phil is approaching Levrone's level?


I think you're approaching Freddy Mercury level.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 08:06:27 PM
My fellow expert, Ron "Yogi" Avidan posted his thoughts on the newest Phil Heath photos:
http://www.getbig.com/headlines/2008/01/15/ironman-pro-phil-heath-game-over-pics/

I would agree with one thing Yogi had to say. Phil looks like a cartoon character and this is just under 5 weeks out.

 :o

http://www.flexonline.com/news/286

Gammmme over mann!!!  Shit is insane....  Man. humalog really works wonders...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 15, 2008, 08:07:15 PM
Gammmme over mann!!!  Shit is insane....  Man. humalog really works wonders...

whats humalog?

i like it when a girl gives you a bj and she hums along.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Ok, he won.

Im wit that....
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
whats humalog?

i like it when a girl gives you a bj and she hums along.

hahahhahaha ;D
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 08:12:26 PM
You really love insulin don't you?  :D

GH jaw is now to be called insulin jaw  :D

But seriously, what do you think the insulin is doing to his face?

Phyisogically probably nothing, but you can tell just by how full his face is being relatively close to the show. Wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:12:57 PM
Do you guys think Phil is approaching Levrone's level?

absolutely
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 08:13:55 PM
Your right, you due tend to hold water in your face from slin.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
I think he is a pretty handsome dude

Not saying he's not, just noticing the big difference.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 08:14:54 PM
absolutely

His arms are at least.. They actaully look bigger to me..
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:17:13 PM
Not saying he's not, just noticing the big difference.

I don't think it's the insulin tho.

that's definitly the GH that cause the jaw growth. I think it looks cool myself  ;D
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Fury on January 15, 2008, 08:19:13 PM
I don't think it's the insulin tho.

that's definitly the GH that cause the jaw growth. I think it looks cool myself  ;D

Anything to help you justify taking it, eh?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:22:11 PM
Anything to help you justify taking it, eh?

No steroids are bad for the health, I am completly aware of it. I just don't give a fuck

I prefer to do everything that I want and lose 10 years of my life then live 10 years longer without doing what I wanted

just the way I see it
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 08:25:26 PM
No steroids are bad for the health, I am completly aware of it. I just don't give a fuck

I prefer to do everything that I want and lose 10 years of my life then live 10 years longer without doing what I wanted

just the way I see it


When you're about 25 or 30 you will see things a bit differently, I guaranty it.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: jude2 on January 15, 2008, 08:31:02 PM
Now thats what I call improvements.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:31:29 PM
When you're about 25 or 30 you will see things a bit differently, I guaranty it.

Maybe Joe, you are right.
I guess when I'll have a wife and a kid, things will be different but for now I can't change how I think
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: LATS on January 15, 2008, 08:40:09 PM
 phil looks good.. but, i will have to say that he is 5 weeks out guys.. he should be bigger and fuller.. but, he comes in only 8 pounds heavier than the arnold last year.. standing next to the big boys will be just as hard as it was at the 07 asc.. he will have to be a 240 pounds on stage to be very impressive.. i would bet that he will be 228 pounds or so.. he is going to lose needed size in the next 4 weeks.. he looks great right now... but, he will need another very productive off season to add the needed size for a serious contender for the asc or o.. but, the ironman should be fairly easy walk for him..
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Jerryme7 on January 15, 2008, 08:43:02 PM
Isaac, You are a master at your craft! Great photos!!

Phil looks amazing! Im rooting for him to win!!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Wiggs on January 15, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
All Drugs...........I like it. ;D
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2008, 08:44:46 PM
phil looks good.. but, i will have to say that he is 5 weeks out guys.. he should be bigger and fuller.. but, he comes in only 8 pounds heavier than the arnold last year.. standing next to the big boys will be just as hard as it was at the 07 asc.. he will have to be a 240 pounds on stage to be very impressive.. i would bet that he will be 228 pounds or so.. he is going to lose needed size in the next 4 weeks.. he looks great right now... but, he will need another very productive off season to add the needed size for a serious contender for the asc or o..

Define "serious contender".  Top three?  I think that is realistic.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: AVBG on January 15, 2008, 08:48:52 PM
When Heath wins the Ironman he'll be hard to stop at the Arnold (Vic or no Vic).
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 08:51:26 PM
When Heath wins the Ironman he'll be hard to stop at the Arnold (Vic or no Vic).

very true my man
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Croatch on January 15, 2008, 09:00:28 PM
Same training, same diet, different drug blend.  Congrats on finding all the drugs that work for you. ::)  These guys are a shot away from being 170lbs, big deal. ::)  Yes, good genetics for drugs.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2008, 09:03:04 PM
Same training, same diet, different drug blend.  Congrats on finding all the drugs that work for you. ::)  These guys are a shot away from being 170lbs, big deal. ::)  Yes, good genetics for drugs.

I agree it has more to do with good genetic response to drugs than anything else.  I think 170 shredded off drugs makes sense also.  That said, Phil's excellent structure does not come in a vial (pretty well everything else does, lol, but that applies to all bodybuilders, not just Phil).
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 09:04:57 PM
if I looked like Phil, I would have already banged all the fitness bitches in the world
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 09:21:10 PM
phil looks good.. but, i will have to say that he is 5 weeks out guys.. he should be bigger and fuller.. but, he comes in only 8 pounds heavier than the arnold last year.. standing next to the big boys will be just as hard as it was at the 07 asc.. he will have to be a 240 pounds on stage to be very impressive.. i would bet that he will be 228 pounds or so.. he is going to lose needed size in the next 4 weeks.. he looks great right now... but, he will need another very productive off season to add the needed size for a serious contender for the asc or o.. but, the ironman should be fairly easy walk for him..

I really dont think hes gonna be no where near 228 on stage... He looks 270 in the first pic and lean! I dont think hes gonna drop 20 more pounds until the show...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 15, 2008, 09:23:51 PM
phil looks good.. but, i will have to say that he is 5 weeks out guys.. he should be bigger and fuller.. but, he comes in only 8 pounds heavier than the arnold last year.. standing next to the big boys will be just as hard as it was at the 07 asc.. he will have to be a 240 pounds on stage to be very impressive.. i would bet that he will be 228 pounds or so.. he is going to lose needed size in the next 4 weeks.. he looks great right now... but, he will need another very productive off season to add the needed size for a serious contender for the asc or o.. but, the ironman should be fairly easy walk for him..

He should be bigger and fuller??? Are you joking?? For someone thats probably depleting as is, he looks pretty dam full to me...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 15, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
looks great but still doesn't look as good as the guys from the 90's

E
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 09:27:59 PM
looks great but still doesn't look as good as the guys from the 90's

E

I think that he does Earl

let's wait till he gets really ripped
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: candidizzle on January 15, 2008, 09:28:26 PM
holy fuck!   phil heath is the man!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: LATS on January 15, 2008, 09:55:48 PM
nder98 reread my post.. i said he should be bigger and fuller at 5 weeks out.. the pic show him at 5 weeks out.. he wont deplete for a while.. also, he is 240 pounds in the pics.. in 5 weeks he will be 228 or there abouts,, also his buddy on this board issac has also stated that he will be roughly 228 pound or so on the day of the show.. so, in 4 weeks he will drop 12 pounds or so..  he is no where near 270 pounds.. 240 is what is listed on flex magazine where the pic originated..
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2008, 10:33:13 PM
When you're about 25 or 30 you will see things a bit differently, I guaranty it.

you got that right. 

however i dont think stavios has to worry too much.  *IF* steroids do reduce the lifespan a bit, by the time he's an old man in 40 years, the medicine will be there to fix damn near anything.  Plus, since the planet is going to hell in a handbasket anyway, old age seems less and less exciting anyway lol...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 10:36:57 PM
you got that right. 

however i dont think stavios has to worry too much.  *IF* steroids do reduce the lifespan a bit, by the time he's an old man in 40 years, the medicine will be there to fix damn near anything.  Plus, since the planet is going to hell in a handbasket anyway, old age seems less and less exciting anyway lol...

well you know, when I see old people I don't get what is so exiting about living until 100 or even 80 years old

seems like a loooooooonnng boring life

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 10:46:37 PM
well you know, when I see old people I don't get what is so exiting about living until 100 or even 80 years old

seems like a loooooooonnng boring life



When you have kids, look them in the eye and you see how much they look up to you, if your anything like me, you'll make sure you try to make your life as long as possible......I live for my son and now I live for my son and my wife.

I say this because my father left (died) me waaay too soon and even though it's been 22 years, it seems like yesterday.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 10:49:59 PM
I am sure that when I'll have kids I will love them a lot but when they are old enough and have their own family, I don't think I will feel that they need me that much
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: joelocal on January 15, 2008, 10:56:40 PM
I am sure that when I'll have kids I will love them a lot but when they are old enough and have their own family, I don't think I will feel that they need me that much

Maybe, but your grandkids might think differently. I find I still ask or need my moms advice from time to time.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2008, 10:58:17 PM
yeah, i used to drink til I passed out onstage.  I used to drive like a maniac.  I used to sleep 3 hours a night.  Abused my body like all kids.

Then I had a baby, and I turned into a hypochondriac!  Started getting blood work, blood pressure tested, all that.  Everytime there's a bump or an ache, I turn into a sissy.  I have a reason to live now.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2008, 11:01:50 PM
I guess I am a bit selfish then

maybe like you said it will all change when I'll have a kid myself
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2008, 11:08:28 PM
I guess I am a bit selfish then

maybe like you said it will all change when I'll have a kid myself

selfish is good.  you'll fall in love with the kid.  it'll be the only thing in this world you'll ever love more than yourself.  Even when you get married, it's still another person.  She can still eyeball other dudes, bang the mailman, etc.  A kid is like, an extension of yourself that you created. 
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: bb.comscribe on January 15, 2008, 11:17:53 PM
Phil looks incredible in those photos. If he can hold that kind of conditioning not too many, if any, will match him. That hands on hips most muscular is one of the most impressive bodybuilding shots ever.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 15, 2008, 11:35:40 PM
Insulin is one helluva drug
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Ron on January 15, 2008, 11:39:48 PM


I just sent Phil a dozen Heath Bars.... may he enjoy them!

Phil looks good, but as we have seen before, when compared to others, that will make the difference.

Phil has a good chance to win the Ironman... but Victor and Dexter... hmm....

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: England_1 on January 15, 2008, 11:47:24 PM
Heath is still a poor man's Flex

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/flex%20Wheeler/25.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/flexwheeler1.jpg)
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 16, 2008, 12:00:18 AM
Phil actually looks better than Flex Wheeler in those pics.

If he can maintain this fullness and bring his usual conditioning, he will be UNBEATABLE in 08'.

I actually just had to IM Ron on MSN, to say how great phil looked. I had to tell someone, thats how great he looks.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 16, 2008, 12:02:46 AM

I just sent Phil a dozen Heath Bars.... may he enjoy them!

Phil looks good, but as we have seen before, when compared to others, that will make the difference.

Phil has a good chance to win the Ironman... but Victor and Dexter... hmm....



Is that a Freudian slip?  Did you mean Health bars?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Hedgehog on January 16, 2008, 12:11:17 AM
Geez, what a difference.........espec ially in his face, it's almost totally different. He looks awesome, but that insulin is really f**king him up!!

Don't know what is fcuking up his face, but agree, his face does look very different.

Very weird how it's changed in just a year, and it's not like he's fat either?

But his physique, well... it looks crazier than almost anything I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Trev on January 16, 2008, 12:13:44 AM
Don't know what is fcuking up his face, but agree, his face does look very different.

Very weird how it's changed in just a year, and it's not like he's fat either?

But his physique, well... it looks crazier than almost anything I've ever seen.
Heath looks incredible, got to be Jay's worst nightmare in 2008 - Although GH15 says that Heath is "Only Arms"!!!!! Yeh right  ::)
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Mazda323 on January 16, 2008, 01:32:30 AM
Heath will be in the top 5 of Mr. O. thiw year. He is only 28...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: marcus on January 16, 2008, 01:39:54 AM
How tall is he?
Title: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 03:46:49 AM
I'm in chocke!!!!
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 03:47:47 AM
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 03:48:23 AM
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Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Trev on January 16, 2008, 03:50:03 AM
GH15 says he's "ALL Arms" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 16, 2008, 03:50:46 AM
I'm in chocke!!!!
haha  a natural wonder of the world!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 03:53:12 AM
Lights out 10years from now for the other proffesional bb's.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: webcake on January 16, 2008, 04:14:39 AM
Lights out 10years from now for the other proffesional bb's.

10 years??

If he keeps improving at this rate, in 2009 he will be runner up at the Olympia, behind Wolf. 8)

TEAM WOLF!!!


MR OLYMPIA 2009!!!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: James Blunt on January 16, 2008, 04:21:28 AM
there's a Mr Olympia!
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Post by: Cromespyder on January 16, 2008, 04:24:52 AM
and mo elbasouni thought he was better than phil, hahahaha. ;D
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Post by: bigkahuna on January 16, 2008, 04:38:40 AM
looks like he has brought up his chest a lot!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 04:43:36 AM
looking at his waist, he seems to keep clear of Milos too!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: James Blunt on January 16, 2008, 04:44:15 AM
looking at his waist, he seems to keep clear of Milos too!
Milos is se scumbags
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2008, 04:50:34 AM
Mr.OLYMPIA
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Post by: phyxsius on January 16, 2008, 04:53:51 AM
What about his back?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: kevcat on January 16, 2008, 04:58:24 AM
From those pics he beats Wolf anyday  8)
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on January 16, 2008, 05:00:43 AM
there's a Mr Olympia!
Well, Cutler's not getting his third with this guy in the lineup. What are the chances that Muscletech will intervene somehow and Heath will 'sit out' this Olympia to allow Jay to get his trifecta?

/too much 240/conspiracy?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2008, 05:01:17 AM
What about his back?
Damn anxious to see his 7 mandatory poses!!!!!o(^0^)o
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 16, 2008, 05:06:16 AM
Mr.OLYMPIA

Flex who?  ;)
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 16, 2008, 05:17:52 AM
Looks like a freak! Look out top 3!
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Post by: muscularny on January 16, 2008, 05:20:10 AM
simply not normal what ths guy did truly amazing, guess jay is one heck of a good teacher
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: rocket on January 16, 2008, 05:23:40 AM
simply not normal what ths guy did truly amazing, guess jay is one heck of a good teacher

More like, his body phenomenally responds to increased gear usage.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2008, 05:42:01 AM
More like, his body phenomenally responds to increased gear usage.
but i dont want him to get those gut. >:(
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: rockyfortune on January 16, 2008, 05:45:05 AM
he must be using a insane amount of gear...
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Post by: SteelePegasus on January 16, 2008, 05:46:16 AM
he must be using a insane amount of gear...

not necessarily, perhaps just a different kind like insulin/hgh
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fulgorre on January 16, 2008, 05:51:43 AM
One thing I am very sure of looking at these pictures....he is not doing the typical 1g test per week + dbol. :)
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 16, 2008, 05:52:00 AM
not necessarily, perhaps just a different kind like insulin/hgh

if you put Jay's 2008 brain, into his 1997 body, he would have achieved MUCH greater bodybuilding success sooner.  

Toss in ten time greater genes.

You now have Phil Heath in Jay's guest house.

Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Faust on January 16, 2008, 05:54:17 AM
His neck is gonna be as wide as his clavicles in no time.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Alex A on January 16, 2008, 06:01:23 AM
Phill Looks totally Impressive in these photos!

He looks like he is ahead of schedule but thats a good thing. I would rather be ahead than behind. 

I agree with Ron, the true test is how he looks standing next to the other competitors.

 It does appear that he has raised the bar for this show.


Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: rocket on January 16, 2008, 06:02:58 AM
You can try to assume that the guy is just doing things better but lets face it, more than likely he's increased his usage.  He's hit the buffet fully.
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Post by: divcom on January 16, 2008, 06:04:05 AM
I love to rip Heath but the guy is putting on some size.  If he keeps growing at the current rate...he'll need Lift to wipe his a$$ along with doing his web site.  It will be interesting to see how much size he holds when he goes dry for the Ironman.  Remember Dennis James looks like Thor also standing alone.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 16, 2008, 06:21:15 AM
i think it's pretty well understood that Jay will win #3, and Phil heath can place as high as second at the 2008 Olympia.
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Post by: SF1900 on January 16, 2008, 06:21:43 AM
What an improvement. Though, I am very curious to see what his back looks like. We all know the Mr O is won from the back!
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Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2008, 06:26:12 AM
not necessarily, perhaps just a different kind like insulin/hgh
Agreed. The gear is not the matter of amount but how to.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 06:34:07 AM
Seems like cutler better retire soon, very soon...
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Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 06:35:45 AM
Seems like cutler better retire soon, very soon...

Must hurt when your trainee takes your crown...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2008, 06:39:59 AM
Seems like cutler better retire soon, very soon...
Guaahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahah!!! Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch!!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Epic_Monster on January 16, 2008, 06:42:02 AM
I'm in chocke!!!!

Do you have a cock in your mouth sir?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 16, 2008, 07:07:25 AM
Why does flexonline show only 1/2 body shots...or one or two poses?

we need MILOS HERE!!

25 shots of ever pose! every angle!! thats what im talking about!!! the good ol' days!

Flex...nobody likes a tease!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: joelocal on January 16, 2008, 07:09:58 AM
Why does flexonline show only 1/2 body shots...or one or two poses?

we need MILOS HERE!!

25 shots of ever pose! every angle!! thats what im talking about!!! the good ol' days!

Flex...nobody likes a tease!

Milos might be a little preoccupied with looking at mugshots.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 16, 2008, 07:11:56 AM
Milos might be a little preoccupied with looking at mugshots.

LOL i knew that was coming...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 07:14:29 AM
Milos might be a little preoccupied with looking at mugshots.

He's busy counting money from his european sales.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigmo6891 on January 16, 2008, 07:17:50 AM
HOLY SHIT!!! what da fuck is dis guy on??
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 16, 2008, 07:18:46 AM
OK now that's pretty impressive.

There were pics and a video of him guestposing in December where he looked in offseason mode, carrying a fair amount of bodyfat.

In under one month, he lost all that and looks much sharper. That's what got my attention most.

Damn, drugs sure do work wonders!!!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 16, 2008, 07:31:41 AM
When's the show...in 5 weeks??

He looks 1 or 2 weeks away...not even...i'd say closer! shit! this guy is the future for sure...
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 07:36:21 AM
But the real question is!!! How can Heath do this progress without Milos training principle???
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: JasonH on January 16, 2008, 07:40:01 AM
Heath looking UNREAL!!!!

If he nails this condition we could have a new MR O this year. Pending a good back of course.
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Post by: Deadpool on January 16, 2008, 07:45:06 AM
I'm in chocke, too
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Post by: alexxx on January 16, 2008, 08:00:26 AM
MR. OLYMPIA 2008! He gonna hold on to my title till my time comes. ;D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Special Ed on January 16, 2008, 08:01:25 AM
Those are great shots for Heath just like they were for Levrone because they have similar structure. Narrow-ish clavicles, sick and thick arms and delts, tight mid-section, and great quads. The back, as always, will determine where Heath places. But no doubt, Phil looks like a world-beater there.

Back shots please?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Trev on January 16, 2008, 08:01:56 AM
Dude needs more forearms ....... Not
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 16, 2008, 08:05:26 AM
The guy looks impressive, but we've seen many guys take impressive pictures by themselves.  Dennis James is a guy that comes to mind.  The man takes some amazing pictures in the gym and people peg him as the next Mr. Olympia and what not.  Come game day, when on stage with the rest of those animals, he looks no better than anyone else.

Heath is still far out from showtime and as much as pictures in a gym, quickly after a 15-20 minute pump, can look good, we still have to see how he fends off against the big boys..

"1"
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 16, 2008, 08:11:35 AM
Heath has only one man standing in his way...
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: MAXX on January 16, 2008, 08:12:43 AM
very impressive.

genetics + dedication + the right drugs = champ


btw that cutler pic is photoshopped to make his arms look smaller..
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: michael arvilla on January 16, 2008, 08:37:04 AM
Isaac was accused of "Over-Hyping" Phil Heath and that basically the kid was all hype created by Isaac

i think these pictures put that to rest!

only other time i have been that impressed was in the early 1990's with the Dorian Yates black and white flex photos

props Phil and Isaac!!!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Trev on January 16, 2008, 08:38:43 AM
i think it's pretty well understood that Jay will win #3, and Phil heath can place as high as second at the 2008 Olympia.
IF Heath shows up at the Olympia like this, there's no way the IFBB can hand it to Jay again.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: divcom on January 16, 2008, 08:43:24 AM
IF Heath shows up at the Olympia like this, there's no way the IFBB can hand it to Jay again.

He wont.  This is normal 5 weeks out photo.  They all look super that far out.  When he diets down...his true width will be exposed.  He wont take the Arnold.  Again... great 5 wk out pic ala Dennis James.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Petrucci on January 16, 2008, 08:43:43 AM
Jesus!!!!! the guy is growing like a f*cken gorilla!!!


im sure it has to do with the way he splits his meals during the day....

 ;D
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Post by: gymguy on January 16, 2008, 08:49:53 AM
Damn!  Phil could win every show he enters...
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Post by: MAXX on January 16, 2008, 08:55:38 AM
so how does his back look now?

everyone knows you cant win big shows without a back.
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Post by: m8 on January 16, 2008, 09:17:35 AM
He's no Cutler yet.
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Post by: SteelePegasus on January 16, 2008, 09:19:43 AM
MR. OLYMPIA 2008! He gonna hold on to my title till my time comes. ;D

your time will cum alexxx, for sure
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Post by: Pollux on January 16, 2008, 09:20:07 AM
That's Mr. Olympia caliber right there!  :o
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Post by: XFACTOR on January 16, 2008, 09:20:15 AM
He's no Cutler yet.

Great pic of Cutler.  Wow sick fucking taper
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: XXXII/LX on January 16, 2008, 09:21:02 AM
He's no Cutler yet.

Agreed. He has atleast 10 more years of drug use to look as bad as "Cuts".
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: technokc on January 16, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
when the hell did heath get shoulders like that!!!!!!. . . . I know his structure is narrow. . . but fuck look at the cannon balls on him :o :o :o :o


We have gone from not very good shoulders to 2 beasts with him and wolf. . . maybe that will be the make or break body part in the next decade?
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Post by: m8 on January 16, 2008, 09:28:56 AM
when the hell did heath get shoulders like that!!!!!!. . . . I know his structure is narrow. . . but fuck look at the cannon balls on him :o :o :o :o


We have gone from not very good shoulders to 2 beasts with him and wolf. . . maybe that will be the make or break body part in the next decade?

Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Emmortal on January 16, 2008, 09:30:50 AM
He does look great, but I'm holding judgment until he gets on stage next to everyone else.  He should breeze through the Ironman, but we'll see how he comes in at the Arnold.  Looks like he's had a very productive off season, lets see if he can keep stable and not flatten out before the contest.

He still doesn't have the mass of Wolf though, I think this is going to be the year for Wolf if Cutler doesn't just come in with a big surprise with his conditioning.
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Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2008, 09:43:39 AM
He does look great, but I'm holding judgment until he gets on stage next to everyone else.  He should breeze through the Ironman, but we'll see how he comes in at the Arnold.  Looks like he's had a very productive off season, lets see if he can keep stable and not flatten out before the contest.

He still doesn't have the mass of Wolf though, I think this is going to be the year for Wolf if Cutler doesn't just come in with a big surprise with his conditioning.


I agree he looks phenomenal but anyone can look great in offseason shadowed pics in a gym (Dennis James comes to mind ;D). Can't wait to see him next to everyone else to see how much he has improved because IMO he will look the most improved next to anyone in the IronMan or ASC lineups and judges love to see year by year improvements.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 16, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
I'm in chocke!!!!

christ....he sure started upping the dose.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on January 16, 2008, 10:49:16 AM
GH15 says he's "ALL Arms" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)

he is all arms,,reminds me very much a competetive version of trevor from back in the day ,,the point being is that he is top bodybuilder in 2007 where the competition is easy to say the least,,in the 90s he would be wiping the stage,,he is all arms ,,muscle is not developed enough ,,lots of insulin ,,narrow,,good bodybuilder but just have arms overpowering anything to the 10th degree,,insulin use is at all time high ,,he is a version of a white guy in a black man which usually = good placing in pro circuit but again this is not even close to what mr o should look like,,

then again you got jason which is a walking joke,,

bodybuilding is practiucally dependnt on wolf ability to bring back time into the 90s ,,kevin ray me milos gunter ron chris and ken  dorian hainey thats bodybuilding ,,,we had and some still do have all parts developed from top to buttom even if not tip top it was all developed ,

again heath will place well and be top competitot,,he already is,,but that dude falls to 170lb faster than a rocket when clean for a year,,its just drugs and work insted of work and drugs

his placing dependent uipon ass kissing and contracts companies that will find him as a gold fish among many white wanna be boys that simple are not good enough and cant keep their mouth shut,,see priest

Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on January 16, 2008, 10:51:13 AM


take a look at the picture you showing,,tell me it doesnt loook like a local regional torso of a competetive gym rat,,attached to 2 godzila of arms,,they way over power,,it is not what bodybuilding is about,,arms are very good,,physiqe is behind,,still among todays competition will place well
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Bobby on January 16, 2008, 10:52:03 AM
yikes :o what happened?

too much too soon? consequences ??? this is just not possible
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: cht868 on January 16, 2008, 11:00:24 AM
so ur saying heath won't even crack the top 10 at the arnold?
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Post by: donrhummy on January 16, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
I'm in chocke!!!!

looks like he finally brought up his chest to go with those insane arms. His legs still lagging behind though. Remember though, last year someone (was it Hinds?) said he was looking just like that weeks out of the contest and lost it all by over-dieting/mistiming his peak. So he needs to be careful this time.

Still, VERY impressive.
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Post by: Danny on January 16, 2008, 11:05:39 AM
HOLY FUCK ..!!!! :o :o :o :o Man ...if he keeps his waist in control he's gonna look like a frreak among mere mortals...... :o Can't wait to cee The Big Bad Wolf standing next to Heath! Just imagine a line up like this, Heath, Dennis, Tony Freeman, Jay and Victor... :o
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: MAXX on January 16, 2008, 11:09:36 AM
bodybuilding is practiucally dependnt on wolf ability to bring back time into the 90s ,,kevin ray me nasser milos gunter ron chris and ken  dorian hainey thats bodybuilding ,,,we had and some still do have all parts developed from top to buttom even if not tip top it was all developed ,


i wonder who "me" is ... hmmm..
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Post by: ATHEIST on January 16, 2008, 11:42:19 AM
CHARLES CLAIRMONTE!
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 11:52:28 AM
i wonder who "me" is ... hmmm..

nasser is missing on the list. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 12:04:50 PM
He's no Cutler yet.

Thats picture is photoshopped, look at the curtain in the background, they have made his waist smaller. Unfortunately u can't do this at the Mr O 08 :)
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 16, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
he is all arms,,reminds me very much a competetive version of trevor from back in the day ,,the point being is that he is top bodybuilder in 2007 where the competition is easy to say the least,,in the 90s he would be wiping the stage,,he is all arms ,,muscle is not developed enough ,,lots of insulin ,,narrow,,good bodybuilder but just have arms overpowering anything to the 10th degree,,insulin use is at all time high ,,he is a version of a white guy in a black man which usually = good placing in pro circuit but again this is not even close to what mr o should look like,,

then again you got jason which is a walking joke,,

bodybuilding is practiucally dependnt on wolf ability to bring back time into the 90s ,,kevin ray me milos gunter ron chris and ken  dorian hainey thats bodybuilding ,,,we had and some still do have all parts developed from top to buttom even if not tip top it was all developed ,

again heath will place well and be top competitot,,he already is,,but that dude falls to 170lb faster than a rocket when clean for a year,,its just drugs and work insted of work and drugs

his placing dependent uipon ass kissing and contracts companies that will find him as a gold fish among many white wanna be boys that simple are not good enough and cant keep their mouth shut,,see priest


Your comparing Phil Heath to Trevor Smith?!?!??!?!!?!?!?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 12:11:08 PM
Thats picture is photoshopped, look at the curtain in the background, they have made his waist smaller. Unfortunately u can't do this at the Mr O 08 :)

Good eyes there!

I guess it was "veni vidi vici".  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on January 16, 2008, 12:11:51 PM
he is all arms,,reminds me very much a competetive version of trevor from back in the day ,,the point being is that he is top bodybuilder in 2007 where the competition is easy to say the least,,in the 90s he would be wiping the stage,,he is all arms ,,muscle is not developed enough ,,lots of insulin ,,narrow,,good bodybuilder but just have arms overpowering anything to the 10th degree,,insulin use is at all time high ,,he is a version of a white guy in a black man which usually = good placing in pro circuit but again this is not even close to what mr o should look like,,

then again you got jason which is a walking joke,,

bodybuilding is practiucally dependnt on wolf ability to bring back time into the 90s ,,kevin ray me milos gunter ron chris and ken  dorian hainey thats bodybuilding ,,,we had and some still do have all parts developed from top to buttom even if not tip top it was all developed ,

again heath will place well and be top competitot,,he already is,,but that dude falls to 170lb faster than a rocket when clean for a year,,its just drugs and work insted of work and drugs

his placing dependent uipon ass kissing and contracts companies that will find him as a gold fish among many white wanna be boys that simple are not good enough and cant keep their mouth shut,,see priest



i agree

his muscles look like balloons ???

E
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gym dude on January 16, 2008, 12:18:34 PM
I am thinking that as well holly shit Phil is growing like a gorlla. Come to think of it.I might have to pick Phil Heath to win the Ironman instead of Tony Freeman.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 16, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
well you know, when I see old people I don't get what is so exiting about living until 100 or even 80 years old

seems like a loooooooonnng boring life




yes they all live basically pointless lives

people just want to live as long as possible because they are afraid of what comes next...

E
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: toolarge4u on January 16, 2008, 12:34:06 PM
take a look at the picture you showing,,tell me it doesnt loook like a local regional torso of a competetive gym rat,,attached to 2 godzila of arms,,they way over power,,it is not what bodybuilding is about,,arms are very good,,physiqe is behind,,still among todays competition will place well

you are so fucking delusional it isnt funny...ya local competetive gym rat is that round and complete...give me a fucking break you moron
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: ReEvolution on January 16, 2008, 12:39:44 PM
photoshop
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Necrosis on January 16, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
No steroids are bad for the health, I am completly aware of it. I just don't give a fuck

I prefer to do everything that I want and lose 10 years of my life then live 10 years longer without doing what I wanted

just the way I see it


your missing the point, it just doesnt take years off your life but can lower the quality of the rest of your life to shit. for example exogenous test shuts down the immune system= autoimmune disease, say you get MS
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Necrosis on January 16, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
your missing the point, it just doesnt take years off your life but can lower the quality of the rest of your life to shit. for example exogenous test shuts down the immune system= autoimmune disease, say you get MS in five years, your life is going to suck man, do you know how hard life is with a disease like that, or cancer, or metaboli syndrome. your banking that the only problems that will arise is a short life span, im telling you that your quality of life might go in  the shitter, nothing is more important then health, when you lose it you will understand.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 16, 2008, 12:48:15 PM
Phil actually looks better than Flex Wheeler in those pics.

If he can maintain this fullness and bring his usual conditioning, he will be UNBEATABLE in 08'.

I actually just had to IM Ron on MSN, to say how great phil looked. I had to tell someone, thats how great he looks.
phil looks the best in the current crop of pros..
but not close to wheeler...
sorry....
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 12:51:08 PM
Phil looks like a morphed Shawn Ray in the pic at the top of the page, i think Phil can lay off the arm training and site injections for a little while.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK????? NEW PHIL HEATH PICS!!!!!!!!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 16, 2008, 12:52:40 PM
As great as he looks i am going to believe gh15 because he was bang on the money about Wolf at the 2007 Mr.O and knows his shit.

As for the 2008 Mr.O Cutler just has to show up, we all know that after last year. At least when people said it about Dorian he actually was big and hard.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: michael arvilla on January 16, 2008, 01:19:48 PM
I wanna see that video Isaac................... ....
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: michael arvilla on January 16, 2008, 01:40:54 PM
This should be the next cover shot for Heath's next DVD
Title: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 01:44:36 PM
a photoshopped Shawn Ray here? :o

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: m8 on January 16, 2008, 01:46:06 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/STRONG76/strong762/wheeler14.jpg)
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: Army of One on January 16, 2008, 01:46:13 PM
a photoshopped Shawn Ray here? :o



I had to look twice squadfather, at first I thought it was your "manly" physique.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: ironneck on January 16, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
i remember his old photos..i'd never thought that someone can change that crazy in such a short time
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: Bluto on January 16, 2008, 01:46:34 PM
it's you.

he does look awesome in those pics though.
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 01:48:25 PM
I had to look twice squadfather, at first I thought it was your "manly" physique.
you ever gonna post a picture of yourself little bitch? hahahhaa, i saw the threads you started about me were very successful with one post apiece ;D come on sweetie just one picture of yourself. :D
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: DK II on January 16, 2008, 01:51:21 PM
you ever gonna post a picture of yourself little bitch? hahahhaa, i saw the threads you started about me were very successful with one post apiece ;D come on sweetie just one picture of yourself. :D

meltdown.
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 01:52:48 PM
meltdown.
hahaha, of course you think it is because you're in the same boat he is, a scared no picture posting little bitch, like i've said before, i destroy the both of you until you post pictures and prove me wrong and no not fake pictures either "db". ;D
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: Army of One on January 16, 2008, 01:53:26 PM
you ever gonna post a picture of yourself little bitch? hahahhaa, i saw the threads you started about me were very successful with one post apiece ;D come on sweetie just one picture of yourself. :D
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 01:55:00 PM

hahahaha, still no picture though, right? ;D
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: Army of One on January 16, 2008, 01:55:12 PM
hahaha, of course you think it is because you're in the same boat he is, a scared no picture posting little bitch, like i've said before, i destroy the both of you until you post pictures and prove me wrong and no not fake pictures either "db". ;D

We have been over this, I posted my picture, as I had a year ago, I owned you, so you call a fake so you dont have to delete your account.Dont worry, at least Mcdonalds still loves you.
Title: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
When is that phil heath video going to be up.

Those pics u put up the other day has me drooling in anticipation.

Come on bro getwithit!
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: _bruce_ on January 16, 2008, 01:55:54 PM
Heath looks quite mutated - Mr.O...
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: SF1900 on January 16, 2008, 01:56:51 PM
i actually thought heathes face  looked like dexter jackson.

(http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/1427177/shawnray.jpg)

but yes, the round shoulders, chest and arms, make him look like a bigger shawn ray

And where is my apology about my degrees?:)

Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2008, 01:58:00 PM
i actually thought his face looked like dexter jackson.

(http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/1427177/shawnray.jpg)

but yes, the round shoulders, chest and arms, make him look like a bigger shawn ray

And where is my apology about my degrees?:)


forgot about that, you posted proof and i was wrong, i'm sorry i doubted you, i'm a man and always admit when i'm wrong.
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: SF1900 on January 16, 2008, 02:02:22 PM
forgot about that, you posted proof and i was wrong, i'm sorry i doubted you, i'm a man and always admit when i'm wrong.

Thanks man :)......good to know you are a man of your word.

Anyway, phil heath and shawn rays physique do look similar. It looks like they have the same shape in regards to muscle bellies. Very round and full, but heath looking much bigger. I am VERY VERY curious as to what his back looks like. I know it was never a stand out body part for him, so I am curious if he brought it up or not.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: michael arvilla on January 16, 2008, 02:03:34 PM
Question: Can he still "dunk" a basketball?!?!?!
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: Big_Tymer on January 16, 2008, 02:05:35 PM
I admit ive got a new found respect for phil.  I used to think he was all hype, but after seeing those photos, damn...
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Matt C on January 16, 2008, 02:06:14 PM
Question: Can he still "dunk" a basketball?!?!?!

Phil told me that at 5'9 and 250 he can still dunk one.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: gymguy on January 16, 2008, 02:27:03 PM
Game over, is right.  Noone will beat that. Thanks for sharing the pics, Isaac. they look great.
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: dr.chimps on January 16, 2008, 02:42:48 PM
a photoshopped Shawn Ray here? :o
I think the similarity is the coloured contacts. That always throws me a bit.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Lift Studios on January 16, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
The guys at FLEX are working on posting the video now. Fans will be treated to a 5 minute video montage of Phil training arms at Colorado Pro Gym. It's an awesome gym and the owner is super cool. Anyone in Denver, definitely check it out.

There will be a couple more videos before the Ironman.

Thanks for the props guys.



Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 16, 2008, 02:55:17 PM
best arms of all time. end of story. he's got the size of priest with nearly wheeler's definition/shape. and has anyone EVER shown forearms that big and defined? it looks like he's got something jammed under his skin.
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Lift Studios on January 16, 2008, 03:19:53 PM
We showed pics and people freaked.

We stopped showing The Gift and people freaked.



Maybe the King will deliver.

 ;D
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Matt C on January 16, 2008, 03:22:40 PM
In 2005, people had the right to accuse Isaac of over-hyping Phil.  He looked great for two years training but I had no idea at the time he would turn into the freak he has turned into today.  I think a lot of others on here can agree.
Title: Re: IS IT JUST ME OR DOES PHIL HEATH LOOK LIKE..........
Post by: MattT on January 16, 2008, 03:24:59 PM
a photoshopped Shawn Ray here? :o



Phil will win the Ironman, and possibly the Arnold.  His abs remind of ronnies 4pack
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Lift Studios on January 16, 2008, 03:28:40 PM
In 2005, people had the right to accuse Isaac of over-hyping Phil.  He looked great for two years training but I had no idea at the time he would turn into the freak he has turned into today.  I think a lot of others on here can agree.
Ah ya bloody bastard, I was just ahead of my time.

 ;D
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 16, 2008, 03:34:54 PM
At least let's see some more pics. Dude looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: Heath 'Game Over' Preview, Pics and Videos
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 03:58:51 PM
Poor man's Flex.
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Special Ed on January 16, 2008, 04:09:12 PM
Ah ya bloody bastard, I was just ahead of my time.

 ;D
You can't get much luckier than to be a Muscle Schmoe with a videocamera in the same town as the hot new MuscleMonster!
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Honour on January 16, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
Yeah great stuff Isaac :D, I'm hoping the Video is just as freaky :o!!!
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: rocket on January 16, 2008, 04:56:45 PM
He still might have lagging parts.   It doesn't look like it from the angle of those photos that but that is one pose. 

Arvilla, I can't see how you think that is a good shot of him.  It shows him incredibly narrow with a weak chest.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=195064.0;attach=227272;image)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: MindSpin on January 16, 2008, 05:02:48 PM
Hard to tell from the angles, but it seems like his pecs have come up.  However, his arms overpower his torso more than ever...
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: rocket on January 16, 2008, 05:14:14 PM
He really is a taller lee priest but in that photo I posted I swear he has no more width than Lee Priest, despite being taller.
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Stavios on January 16, 2008, 05:42:17 PM
In 2005, people had the right to accuse Isaac of over-hyping Phil.  He looked great for two years training but I had no idea at the time he would turn into the freak he has turned into today.  I think a lot of others on here can agree.

I saw greatness in Phil from the first picture Isaac posted

when 240 said his legs were 3 years behind his upperbody without actually seeing pics where is legs were not covered  ;D ;D

Phil WILL become the one of the best bodybuilder of all time, I just wish he can get freaky shredded for the show. I am talking about some Alex Azarian type of condition with the fullness he displays in those pics

I am sure he can do it  8)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 16, 2008, 05:56:01 PM
nice shot on page 1
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 16, 2008, 06:01:51 PM
Isaac, can you please post a pic of his back up please.

Because if he's made improvements there, everyone will be in serious trouble. If not ???
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 16, 2008, 06:44:44 PM
This should be the next cover shot for Heath's next DVD

I really don't think he looks good here

E
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 16, 2008, 06:46:12 PM
The video is up, but its not that great. poor quality

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: rocket on January 16, 2008, 08:27:24 PM
The video is up, but its not that great. poor quality

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36


Doesn't reveal anything more than those few pics
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: dzulboy on January 16, 2008, 09:09:06 PM
When you're about 25 or 30 you will see things a bit differently, I guaranty it.

no he won;t   right stav   ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Parker on January 16, 2008, 09:34:14 PM
After the Ironman and Arnold, I want to see the debate: Flex vs. Phil, how do they compare?
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 09:41:23 PM
After the Ironman and Arnold, I want to see the debate: Flex vs. Phil, how do they compare?

There is no comparison. Flex in 1993 was miles better. Flex 2nd in Mr. Olympia his first time, Heath wasn't even top 3 at the Arnold. Just look a the difference in condition.

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/25650-4/2007-arnold-classic-61.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=cfe15f4a78126002328227635ca37eb5)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/flex%20Wheeler/25.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 09:46:37 PM
Aside from a lack of absolute mass and condition (due to his FSGS kidney problem) this is about as perfect as a front double biceps can be. Could you have imagined Flex competing in the 80s?  :o

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/flex-wheeler2.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 09:48:33 PM
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1107457802.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 09:57:39 PM
Phil aint even in Flex's league, this shot is insane:

(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/974029161.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Parker on January 16, 2008, 10:24:59 PM
There is no comparison. Flex in 1993 was miles better. Flex 2nd in Mr. Olympia his first time, Heath wasn't even top 3 at the Arnold. Just look a the difference in condition.

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/25650-4/2007-arnold-classic-61.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=cfe15f4a78126002328227635ca37eb5)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/flex%20Wheeler/25.jpg)

I agree with you. But this new and improved Phil might give Flex's legendary 1993 combo of size, shape and conditioning a run for it's money. We'll see.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 16, 2008, 10:37:03 PM
Aside from a lack of absolute mass and condition (due to his FSGS kidney problem) this is about as perfect as a front double biceps can be. Could you have imagined Flex competing in the 80s?  :o

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/flex-wheeler2.jpg)

Theres a whole lotta oil in those arms fellas
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Matt C on January 16, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
Ah ya bloody bastard, I was just ahead of my time.

 ;D

Nah, I think you were over-hyping Phil and just got lucky.  ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Hedgehog on January 16, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
After the Ironman and Arnold, I want to see the debate: Flex vs. Phil, how do they compare?

Phil can't compare.

Never will be able to compare to the Flex of the early 90's.

But he's probably gonna be able to beat the Sultan of Synthol that Wheeler became.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 11:07:58 PM
I agree with you. But this new and improved Phil might give Flex's legendary 1993 combo of size, shape and conditioning a run for it's money. We'll see.

Flex has for a long time been my favorite. But its not fare to compare this two pictures. They has totally different lightening's. Flex Wheeler was pretty tiny in 93 MrO. He does not look as good in videos than he does in pictures. Today Phil Heath is way more muscular.

Compare pictures from different locations should never been done, because it can never be fare. Comparing should be done on the same stage, is the only fare thing, and that will never happen in the case of Flex Wheeler and Phil Heath.

From 2 years from now, I think Phil Heath will be the best thing we ever have seen on a bodybuilding stage. He will be the man taking it to the next level, like Coleman did.

Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 16, 2008, 11:10:20 PM
Flex has for a long time been my favorite. But its not fare to compare this two pictures. They has totally different lightening's. Flex Wheeler was pretty tiny in 93 MrO. He does not look as good in videos than he does in pictures. Today Phil Heath is way more muscular.

Compare pictures from different locations should never been done, because it can never be fare. Comparing should be done on the same stage, is the only fare thing, and that will never happen in the case of Flex Wheeler and Phil Heath.

From 2 years from now, I think Phil Heath will be the best thing we ever have seen on a bodybuilding stage. He will be the man taking it to the next level, like Coleman did.



No.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 16, 2008, 11:22:50 PM
A 93 flex wheeler would probably not been abel to get top 6 at the todays MrO or even top 10.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Matt C on January 16, 2008, 11:30:39 PM
A 93 flex wheeler would probably not been abel to get top 6 at the todays MrO or even top 10.

I would say top six is feasible.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: divcom on January 17, 2008, 03:02:34 AM
The O lineup last yr was bulls##t.  How soon we all forget?  It was so bad Kamali could have got a top 10 spot.  Find the threads after the show and see what people were saying.  Glad I saved my money.  Flex of 93 would have placed 2nd.  Jay would have got him on mass alone.    Phil can put on all the size in the world, and it's the same package.  In other words Ronnie has a s##t load of Os but Flex still has the nicer physique.  The game goes to the muscle packers and Phil will go to 260 if he has too even on his narrow frame.  It looks like.  Who are the drug gurus here?  His jumps are fast than anyone I've seen recently.  Shawn could have turned pro probably a year earlier than he did back in 87 and he didnt make the crazy jumps that Phil is making, nor did Flex. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: kevcat on January 17, 2008, 03:31:34 AM
No.

Why no?
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: dr.chimps on January 17, 2008, 03:35:36 AM
Theres a whole lotta oil in those arms fellas
I saw that too. Good catch.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: natural al on January 17, 2008, 05:54:14 AM
heath looks really good.  I really don't see anyone beating him at the arnold-the only ones who will come close are Vic who's probably out cause of a "knee injury" or maybe if he's totally ripped to the bone Dexter...I mean totally shredded, that's the only 2 I see coming close.....
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: divcom on January 17, 2008, 06:07:22 AM
heath looks really good.  I really don't see anyone beating him at the arnold-the only ones who will come close are Vic who's probably out cause of a "knee injury" or maybe if he's totally ripped to the bone Dexter...I mean totally shredded, that's the only 2 I see coming close.....

actually....dennis james could beat him since we are basing all comments on 4-5 week out photos.  he looks as good as dennis in that case.   
Title: Re: Lift Studios !!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Lift Studios on January 17, 2008, 06:42:35 AM
Nah, I think you were over-hyping Phil and just got lucky.  ;D
You were one the of the ones hate'n on me when I posted his pics before he did his first national show. Phil followed through and did his business, I was just the messenger you wanted to shoot.

It's my business to promote & market people and if you view it as over-hyping, so be it.

I do the same for many other people but as I think we can all agree there are very, very few guys who will ever look like Phil. I've been one of the few fortunate people who have seen Phil since his first show and watch him progress along the way. Ya, I'm lucky to live in the same city and to be able to call Phil a friend but you create your own luck.

A reminder of one of the first pics people saw of Phil (taken before Jr. Nationals):


Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 17, 2008, 08:18:34 AM
The O lineup last yr was bulls##t.  How soon we all forget?  It was so bad Kamali could have got a top 10 spot.  Find the threads after the show and see what people were saying.  Glad I saved my money.  Flex of 93 would have placed 2nd.  Jay would have got him on mass alone.    Phil can put on all the size in the world, and it's the same package.  In other words Ronnie has a s##t load of Os but Flex still has the nicer physique.  The game goes to the muscle packers and Phil will go to 260 if he has too even on his narrow frame.  It looks like.  Who are the drug gurus here?  His jumps are fast than anyone I've seen recently.  Shawn could have turned pro probably a year earlier than he did back in 87 and he didnt make the crazy jumps that Phil is making, nor did Flex. 

U must be kidding. Flex from 93 would look like a tooth stick among the guys at MrO 07.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Parker on January 17, 2008, 08:26:19 AM
U must be kidding. Flex from 93 would look like a tooth stick among the guys at MrO 07.

Go back and look at the 1993 O, where he came second, and some say should have beat one of the most dominant Mr.O's of all time. He compared favorable well. And that was at 218 pounds. Yeah, he's light, but he gives an illusion that he is bigger. His waist was smaller than Shawn Ray's and was almost as big as Lebrada's. His arms were bigger than Dorian's, and his back detail was phenomenal. Bodybuilders have only gotten bigger, not better, and you see that quality difference.

That Flex shot, is the shit, and look at the line up, Vince Taylor, and Paul Dillett, who would make Jay look like boy. Yet Flex won at 216 pounds, kinda lets you know what the deal is.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Mars on January 17, 2008, 08:31:39 AM
Phil doesnt believe in barbell rows. i believe him.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2008, 08:36:34 AM
the guy has it all in spades,he will win at least 2/3 shows.muscle fullness is second to none and he can spank dex i think?arms are lb for lb the best going.i think he has a heavier dense look to him then wheeler at his heaviest.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Mars on January 17, 2008, 08:37:43 AM
wheeler doesnt compete anymore, he retired.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: The Squadfather on January 17, 2008, 08:39:01 AM
wheeler doesnt compete anymore, he retired.
maybe he don't like putting on his g string and oil anymore, Mars.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 17, 2008, 08:45:22 AM
Go back and look at the 1993 O, where he came second, and some say should have beat one of the most dominant Mr.O's of all time. He compared favorable well. And that was at 218 pounds. Yeah, he's light, but he gives an illusion that he is bigger. His waist was smaller than Shawn Ray's and was almost as big as Lebrada's. His arms were bigger than Dorian's, and his back detail was phenomenal. Bodybuilders have only gotten bigger, not better, and you see that quality difference.

That Flex shot, is the shit, and look at the line up, Vince Taylor, and Paul Dillett, who would make Jay look like boy. Yet Flex won at 216 pounds, kinda lets you know what the deal is.

Flex wheeler in 93
&feature=related looks good bad also looks like a body builder from the eighties
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: nder98 on January 17, 2008, 09:13:24 AM
nder98 reread my post.. i said he should be bigger and fuller at 5 weeks out.. the pic show him at 5 weeks out.. he wont deplete for a while.. also, he is 240 pounds in the pics.. in 5 weeks he will be 228 or there abouts,, also his buddy on this board issac has also stated that he will be roughly 228 pound or so on the day of the show.. so, in 4 weeks he will drop 12 pounds or so..  he is no where near 270 pounds.. 240 is what is listed on flex magazine where the pic originated..

Watch this clip, he himself stated that he is 270  http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 17, 2008, 10:18:31 AM
Watch this clip, he himself stated that he is 270  http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36

Actually he's claiming upper 240's (Isaac's words) in this clip.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 17, 2008, 10:19:16 AM
maybe he don't like putting on his g string and oil anymore, Mars.

Judging from that pic floating around with the spandex shirt taken recently, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Lift Studios on January 17, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
Actually he's claiming upper 240's (Isaac's words) in this clip.
You're correct. He is currently weighing in the mid 240s.

He stated in the video he got up to 270 but that's not his current weight.

We'll be filming another part to the video series next week.

NEXT VIDEO - BACK TRAINING.  8)
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 17, 2008, 07:44:08 PM
You're correct. He is currently weighing in the mid 240s.

He stated in the video he got up to 270 but that's not his current weight.

We'll be filming another part to the video series next week.

NEXT VIDEO - BACK TRAINING.  8)


Hey lift, tell him Stavios from the internet said Hi !  8)

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: dorkeroo on January 17, 2008, 07:49:36 PM
Maybe, but your grandkids might think differently. I find I still ask or need my moms advice from time to time.

Advice like yours, although great, can not be appreciated by some people in certain age groups. Tell some 15 year olds smoking is bad for them, you will get a similar (although probably more crass) response.

Wisdom is not usually a trait expressed by the young :-\
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: England_1 on January 17, 2008, 07:57:40 PM
Game over my ass. Game over poses require a massive, thick, and detailed back: a combo Heath will never have.

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: dearth on January 18, 2008, 06:42:28 AM
issac,
tell us something thats actually useful

how many grams of test/wk ?

You're correct. He is currently weighing in the mid 240s.

He stated in the video he got up to 270 but that's not his current weight.

We'll be filming another part to the video series next week.

NEXT VIDEO - BACK TRAINING.  8)

Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: The_One77 on January 18, 2008, 08:42:44 AM
Go back and look at the 1993 O, where he came second, and some say should have beat one of the most dominant Mr.O's of all time. He compared favorable well. And that was at 218 pounds. Yeah, he's light, but he gives an illusion that he is bigger. His waist was smaller than Shawn Ray's and was almost as big as Lebrada's. His arms were bigger than Dorian's, and his back detail was phenomenal. Bodybuilders have only gotten bigger, not better, and you see that quality difference.

That Flex shot, is the shit, and look at the line up, Vince Taylor, and Paul Dillett, who would make Jay look like boy. Yet Flex won at 216 pounds, kinda lets you know what the deal is.

I'm pretty sure Flex was 230 at the 1993 Olympia not 216 (from Shawn Ray's mouth)

His heaviest was at the 1999 Olympia placing second, he was 249lbs
Title: Re: Phil Heath Pics - 'Game over' Preview & Video
Post by: Parker on January 18, 2008, 09:04:47 AM
I'm pretty sure Flex was 230 at the 1993 Olympia not 216 (from Shawn Ray's mouth)

His heaviest was at the 1999 Olympia placing second, he was 249lbs

Yes, 230 or 235 at the Ironman, but 216 at the 1993 Arnold
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: busyB on January 18, 2008, 09:46:11 AM
WHERE IS THE DAMN VIDEO?????????  ???

Was promised four or five days ago!?
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2008, 09:57:27 AM
WHERE IS THE DAMN VIDEO?????????  ???

Was promised four or five days ago!?
This is isnt it?
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: busyB on January 18, 2008, 10:25:53 AM
This is isnt it?
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/36

Yeah, guess that is it!

Thanks, I could not find it anywhere on flex...typical meat head!!

Brutal lighting in the video and no posing shots and training arms?!? Waiting for the back video now!!
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 18, 2008, 12:29:23 PM
Seems like it will be 4 videos. I guess they will show one every week.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: gymguy on January 18, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
The recent pictures of Heath look great.  Hope he doesn't drop too much weight.  I suspect about 7-10 less than lbs thank in these pics should do the trick.  He will totally dominate, if he keeps the hardness and mass.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: temper35 on January 18, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
Can't you make videos that aren't dogshit quality and 200x200 resolution?  jesus christ.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: scribbler on January 18, 2008, 09:31:33 PM
Can't you make videos that aren't dogshit quality and 200x200 resolution?  jesus christ.

Better quality next week guys

C
Title: Re: Phil Heath Preview Pics & Video
Post by: mame09 on January 18, 2008, 10:12:22 PM
how can you even compare heath to wheeler. not same league. never has and never will.

gh15 is right he is all arms just like nasser said wheeler has a middleweight torso with super heavy weight arms
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Bobby on January 19, 2008, 02:59:01 AM
issac,
tell us something thats actually useful

how many grams of test/wk ?


yes, that's what we want to hear!
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: AVBG on January 21, 2008, 09:33:16 PM
You're correct. He is currently weighing in the mid 240s.

He stated in the video he got up to 270 but that's not his current weight.

We'll be filming another part to the video series next week.

NEXT VIDEO - BACK TRAINING.  8)


I know of two IFBB pros (I spoke to one of these today) that since seeing these pics on flexonline.com have decided to now "retire"..

 
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: busyB on January 22, 2008, 07:32:39 AM
I know of two IFBB pros (I spoke to one of these today) that since seeing these pics on flexonline.com have decided to now "retire"..

 

And they are..... ??? ???

Kamali?

Ken Jones?

Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Stavios on January 22, 2008, 07:40:17 AM
I know of two IFBB pros (I spoke to one of these today) that since seeing these pics on flexonline.com have decided to now "retire"..

 

Lol, are you serious ?  ???
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: Bobby on January 22, 2008, 11:51:38 AM
I know of two IFBB pros (I spoke to one of these today) that since seeing these pics on flexonline.com have decided to now "retire"..

 

who?
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Lol, are you serious ?  ???

Totally.

I asked what makes the difference between Heath and the rest, was it the drugs or the dosages?

And the reply was.. "Heath takes far less drugs than any amatuer bodybuilder I know, let alone IFBB pro. It's the muscle shape he carries, you can't train for it and no matter what I do - I atleast can't get anywhere close to him".
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: busyB on January 22, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
Totally.

I asked what makes the difference between Heath and the rest, was it the drugs or the dosages?

And the reply was.. "Heath takes far less drugs than any amatuer bodybuilder I know, let alone IFBB pro. It's the muscle shape he carries, you can't train for it and no matter what I do - I atleast can't get anywhere close to him".

NAMES? C'mon spill the dirt!!

If it is Ken Jones, who will wrap up last place from now on  :'(
Title: Re: Heath Game Over Preview?
Post by: DK II on January 22, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
NAMES? C'mon spill the dirt!!

If it is Ken Jones, who will wrap up last place from now on  :'(

I bet on Yamagishi and Kamali.  ::) ::)