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...but the punishments for DUI are in no way proportional to the crimes. I know the case hasn't been prosecuted yet, but this asshole killed a woman and is free on $11,000 bond. >:(
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3200446
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Toxicology results show former major leaguer Jim Leyritz's blood-alcohol levels were nearly twice the legal limit the day he was involved in a fatal crash in December.
Leyritz, initially charged with DUI manslaughter and DUI property damage after the crash, will now face an additional manslaughter charge, according to a Fort Lauderdale Police Department news release.
Results of the tests show that the 44-year-old Leyritz had a blood-alcohol levels of 0.14 at 6:10 a.m. and 0.13 at 7:12 a.m. on Dec. 28, the day his 2006 Ford Expedition crashed at an intersection and collided with the car of Fredia Ann Veitch. The legal limit for Florida drivers is 0.08.
Veitch, a 30-year-old woman from Plantation, was ejected from her 2000 Mitsubishi Montero and died at Broward General Medical Center. Leyritz has been released on $11,000 bond.
A message left with Leyritz's attorney, Jeffrey Ostrow, wasn't immediately returned late Wednesday night.
Leyritz played for six major league teams and was last in the majors in 2000. In 1996, he hit a home run for the New York Yankees in Game 4 of the World Series against Atlanta. The homer made it 6-6, and the Yankees went on to win in 10 innings. New York took the series in six games for its first title in 18 years.
Leyritz was mostly a catcher during his 11 seasons.
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Thanks for indulging me on this, gang - there's just no way for me to 'get over it'. For all the huff and puff we hear from government agencies, they don't give a shit about DUI, yet have their collective panties in a bunch because a small handful of guys have bigger muscles than they do.
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Thanks for indulging me on this, gang - there's just no way for me to 'get over it'. For all the huff and puff we hear from government agencies, they don't give a shit about DUI, yet have their collective panties in a bunch because a small handful of guys have bigger muscles than they do.
Hey, I agree......but Alcohol is Big Business, so that's okay.... ::)
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It's not about justice guys, it's about MONEY. Remember what I said about money buying everything?
I wrote this on a related topic (money V. justice). Canada's pardon services:
https://secure.pardonservicescanada.com/apply/service_info.aspx
Why do people who are convicted remain in police databases anyway? Surely, this is for the safety of law enforcement officers and individuals in society right? Obviously not, if money will simply buy it away. If you are convicted of assault, you would think that keeping records of this is to serve some social end. But money will save you there. Please explain to me where the morality in this is. Whether or not a person should have a criminal record should have nothing to do with them paying money into the system. It either serves a social end and is necessary, or it is not necessary and should be dismissed automatically. With the current system in Canada, two people can have the same record and if one can afford to erase it, it's gone, while a poorer person will have to keep their record due to lack of money. Where is the justice here?
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Thanks for indulging me on this, gang - there's just no way for me to 'get over it'. For all the huff and puff we hear from government agencies, they don't give a shit about DUI, yet have their collective panties in a bunch because a small handful of guys have bigger muscles than they do.
haha, So true. The whole "I was drunk, sorry" is such a cop out. I don't give a shit if you were high on coke, drunk, whatever...you chose to do that, take full responsibility for your actions. Maybe he should plead "insanity". He'll get 6 months in a psych rehab. Gotta love the justice system. They should make straight up sentences. If you're guilty, you get 5 years, 10 years, etc. Voluntary Vehicular Manslaughter, 10 years...end of story. No, it won't bring that lady back, but it will at least fuck the guy who ended her life. Another drunken idiot takes to the road, shocking! ::) I'm always amazed at how many idiots there are out there in their 30's even, drinking and driving like it's no big thing. Granted .14 isn't an extreme number, but still, intoxicated all the same. Control your alcohol intake if you're going to drive, or how about this, don't fucking drink. Pathetic. Hope he gets 15 years. Piece of shit. ;D
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haha, So true. The whole "I was drunk, sorry" is such a cop out. I don't give a shit if you were high on coke, drunk, whatever...you chose to do that, take full responsibility for your actions. Maybe he should plead "insanity". He'll get 6 months in a psych rehab. Gotta love the justice system. They should make straight up sentences. If you're guilty, you get 5 years, 10 years, etc. Voluntary Vehicular Manslaughter, 10 years...end of story. No, it won't bring that lady back, but it will at least fuck the guy who ended her life. Another drunken idiot takes to the road, shocking! ::) I'm always amazed at how many idiots there are out there in their 30's even, drinking and driving like it's no big thing. Granted .14 isn't an extreme number, but still, intoxicated all the same. Control your alcohol intake if you're going to drive, or how about this, don't fucking drink. Pathetic. Hope he gets 15 years. Piece of shit. ;D
Actually, it's pretty good....
0.02-0.03 BAC: No loss of coordination, slight euphoria and loss of shyness. Depressant effects are not apparent. Mildly relaxed and maybe a little lightheaded.
0.04-0.06 BAC: Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of reasoning and memory, lowering of caution. Your behavior may become exaggerated and emotions intensified (Good emotions are better, bad emotions are worse)
0.07-0.09 BAC: Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired, .08 is legally impaired and it is illegal to drive at this level. You will probably believe that you are functioning better than you really are.
0.10-0.125 BAC: Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time and hearing will be impaired. Euphoria.
0.13-0.15 BAC: Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reduced and dysphoria (anxiety, restlessness) is beginning to appear. Judgment and perception are severely impaired.
0.16-0.19 BAC: Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a "sloppy drunk."
0.20 BAC: Felling dazed, confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand or walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people experience nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened.
0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.
0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken.
0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia.
0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to respiratory arrest.
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I wish he'd hit 0.4 before he could leave the party.
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You clearly misunderstand the purpose of bail/bonds, so let me clear it up. After an arraignment a defendant, not yet being convicted, is free to go until trial. However, in many cases the defendant chooses not to appear for trial. As such, the court will impose a bail, which is an amount the court determines is necessary to ensure that the person returns for trial. This is based on the severity of the crime, the punishment facing the defendant, community ties, notoriety, recidivism, etc. If you pay the bail, it is returned to you when you appear at trial. It is collateral for your promise to appear.
Bail bondsmen offer a service whereby they will pay your bail if you purchase a bod from them. Usually the bond is 10% of the bail and is non-refundable, even if you show up at trial. In the cases of high bail, persons not appearing will be sought by bounty hunters because, lets face it, the bail bondsmen put up a lot of dough that they want back.
In the case of Leyritz, the bond amount was $11,000 which means his bail was likely $110,000. He will not be getting that back. Plus, he has a level of notoriety which will make it difficult for him to hide from authorities. Vehicular manslaughter is a serious crime, and that is the reason why his bail is so high in spite of his notoriety.
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the reason DUI punishment isnt very harsh is because like 2/3 of the congressmen have gotten one at some time or another
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You clearly misunderstand the purpose of bail/bonds, so let me clear it up. After an arraignment a defendant, not yet being convicted, is free to go until trial. However, in many cases the defendant chooses not to appear for trial. As such, the court will impose a bail, which is an amount the court determines is necessary to ensure that the person returns for trial. This is based on the severity of the crime, the punishment facing the defendant, community ties, notoriety, recidivism, etc. If you pay the bail, it is returned to you when you appear at trial. It is collateral for your promise to appear.
Bail bondsmen offer a service whereby they will pay your bail if you purchase a bod from them. Usually the bond is 10% of the bail and is non-refundable, even if you show up at trial. In the cases of high bail, persons not appearing will be sought by bounty hunters because, lets face it, the bail bondsmen put up a lot of dough that they want back.
In the case of Leyritz, the bond amount was $11,000 which means his bail was likely $110,000. He will not be getting that back. Plus, he has a level of notoriety which will make it difficult for him to hide from authorities. Vehicular manslaughter is a serious crime, and that is the reason why his bail is so high in spite of his notoriety.
Hi Mike Matarazzo!
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An example from New Orleans:
"Most were crack/cocaine possession, and the judge generally set bail at around $20,000 (of which the defendant would have to post thirteen percent, or about $2,000)."
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Bail bondsmen
Hi Mike Matarazzo.
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the reason DUI punishment isnt very harsh is because like 2/3 of the congressmen have gotten one at some time or another
Yup and its the same reason child molesters walk the earth...Fucking judges and congressmen and there hidden dungeons
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While I agree that alcohol is just as bad as any other drug, the guy above illustrated what the purpose of a bond is. A crack cocaine bust in NO is probably happening to a guy with multiple priors who will probably not show up in court for his next callender call. All bail is designed to do is make sure you come back. If you have no priors ( especially if your somewhat famous like Jim Leyritz and the whole event will recieve media coverage), barring a charge of intentional murder or rape, the judge is going to give you bail and probably not set the cost that high.
That being said, DUI is taken a whole hell of a lot more serious than it used to be (I have first hand experience). While I agree it can be a potentially serious or even deadly crime, who on this board can honestly say they havent driven "legally drunk"?
There is not one person on this board who drinks with any kind of regularity that hasn't. In NY the standard is .08, which is equivalent to just over 2 beers, or 2 shots or 2 glasses of wine which is absurdly low.
If the pigs are doing check points or just camping out at the end of the month trying to meet arrest quotas, a guy who had 4 beers over the course of two hours is liable to be arrested, spend a night or two or three in jail depending if its a weekend while processed, will be arraigned, forced to take a plea which will add up to more than 500 dollars in fines, a drunk driving program ( which he has to pay for), have his license suspended 6 months, and be forced to walk on egg shells for 6 months to have the charge go away ( dont think about getting a ticket for littering, having an open container of booze, etc.). Employers will be able to see the charge ( there are ways for employers these days to see you got a DUI even if the record is sealed) and if you currently have a job you may potentially lose it.
If you fight the charge its very difficult to win, will cost thousands of dollars in legal fees, will stretch out for several months, and in the meanwhile your license is suspended anyway.
While I agree that if you kill someone while driving drunk you ought to recieve a much higher bond or be remanded, a DUI is not a slap on the wrists anymore.
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Bail bondsmen
Free OJ!
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Free OJ!
Hi OJ.
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Hi OJ.
Hi, 2 murder victims and robbed sports mem dealers that I had nothing to do with.
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Hi, 2 murder victims and robbed sports mem dealers that I had nothing something to do with.
Fixed.
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Hi, 2 murder victims and robbed sports mem dealers that I had nothing everything to do with.
I'm just hoping OJ finds the real killers of the 94 murders before he goes to prison for robbing those folks in Vegas.
Would be a shame if the real killers got away with it.