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Title: Skip LaCour: Natural or not?
Post by: Bluto on January 17, 2008, 02:59:25 PM
i dont know man, but he swears he is

dsicuss
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: El Guapo on January 17, 2008, 03:27:47 PM
Of course he is dumbass. He says so.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: knny187 on January 17, 2008, 03:28:31 PM
100 % natty
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: bigbalddaddy on January 17, 2008, 03:35:51 PM
Skip la cour is as natural as Melvin Anthony (aka Mr. Musclemania)  LOL!!! 
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: El Guapo on January 17, 2008, 03:36:30 PM
Skip la cour is as natural as Melvin Anthony (aka Mr. Musclemania)  LOL!!! 

stop hating hater
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 17, 2008, 03:37:34 PM
is skip la cour natural?


Is the Pope Jewish?  ::)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Monster81 on January 17, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
he was natural at the point of testing
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: bigbalddaddy on January 17, 2008, 03:41:33 PM
stop hating hater

Hate?  No...just the truth.  Don't expose yourself like this.  It really shows how ignorant you are.  Now go roll some burritos...it's dinner time...orale'!
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: emn1964 on January 17, 2008, 03:47:08 PM
how many times is someone going to start a thread about this.  gh15 settled the issue.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Bluto on January 17, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
how many times is someone going to start a thread about this.  gh15 settled the issue.

he did

cut n paste it in here
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 17, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
I say Natural...Doesn't everyone get 4 inch jaw implants after the age of 30 :-\
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: SirTraps on January 17, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
Does SquafFats mothers snatch smell like apple butter ?
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Fulgorre on January 17, 2008, 08:28:29 PM
Unfortunately he is not natural.  I really wish it was possible to achieve his outstanding look naturally...but...it isn't.  Don't be a fool like me and believe chicken breast and oatmeal with compound movements will someday build you anything like this look.  I tried it for about oh...15 years...now in about 7 months of juice it is like another world compared to what I looked like before.  Just don't waste your time guys!  If this look is what you want get on hormones asap.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: chaos on January 17, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
Does SquafFats mothers snatch smell like apple butter ?
I don't know who "SquafFats" is, but I bet he wouldn't appreciate you talking about your sister like that.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on January 17, 2008, 08:40:56 PM
Skip may have used many years ago, which could give him an advantage with receptor sensitivity. If he was currently stacking growth hormone releasing peptides, anti-aromatase inhibitors, Eurycoma based test boosters with insulin mimetics and maintaining a positive nitrogen balance with frequent protein ingestion alomg with heavy training, his physique is possible. Those items would not be classified as steroids.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: timfogarty on January 17, 2008, 10:34:31 PM
or maybe he just has testicles the size of baseballs
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Matt C on January 17, 2008, 10:37:10 PM
100 % natty

Hi Skip.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: beatmaster on January 17, 2008, 10:42:13 PM

if the guy said he's natural, then he is!

just like all the other pros!  ::)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Gym dude on January 17, 2008, 11:47:45 PM
When I have seen photos of Skip La cour. I have offen wondered if he drug free or on the rods.I would say that Skip is drug free.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: musclehedz on January 18, 2008, 12:37:11 AM
Ofcourse he is a natty. 100% natural HARD WORK BABY!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't look juiced at all

(http://www.bodybuilders.com/lacour2.jpg)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: gordiano on January 18, 2008, 12:42:06 AM
About as natural as breast implants....... ::)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: kreator on January 18, 2008, 12:47:03 AM
does Skip shit in the woods?
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: _bruce_ on January 18, 2008, 01:16:15 AM
Wow - there's still hope for us natties  ;D
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: natural al on January 18, 2008, 05:31:52 AM
how many times is someone going to start a thread about this.  gh15 settled the issue.

c'mon now.  gh15 would tell you that waldo from van halen's hot for teacher vid was on everything under the sun...he's a gimmick at this point.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Bluto on January 18, 2008, 06:06:54 AM
Unfortunately he is not natural.  I really wish it was possible to achieve his outstanding look naturally...but...it isn't.  Don't be a fool like me and believe chicken breast and oatmeal with compound movements will someday build you anything like this look.  I tried it for about oh...15 years...now in about 7 months of juice it is like another world compared to what I looked like before.  Just don't waste your time guys!  If this look is what you want get on hormones asap.

its not about whether you or someone else can look that natural its about HE looking like that natural

maybe his genetics are outta this world

Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: El Guapo on January 18, 2008, 06:59:57 AM
Hate?  No...just the truth.  Don't expose yourself like this.  It really shows how ignorant you are.  Now go roll some burritos...it's dinner time...orale'!

its called sarcasm you fucking moron
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: natural al on January 18, 2008, 07:00:59 AM
its called sarcasm you fucking moron
he goes by squadfather now
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: busyB on January 18, 2008, 07:14:54 AM
Can't test for GH remember??

His training is the AST HT version and only did 4-6 reps, maximum weight. All those AST guys say they are natural, Jeff Willet too! I would like to think they are natural and give them the benifit of the doubt but I do not see how with that training style and level of musuclarity and conditioning. I competed 13 years naturally and did well, but never got to the kind of conditioning of Skip or Jeff.

Who knows, maybe they come from a different planet like Ronnie!
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: DK II on January 18, 2008, 07:37:52 AM
as natural as pop tarts.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: emn1964 on January 18, 2008, 07:39:35 AM
Skip may have used many years ago, which could give him an advantage with receptor sensitivity. If he was currently stacking growth hormone releasing peptides, anti-aromatase inhibitors, Eurycoma based test boosters with insulin mimetics and maintaining a positive nitrogen balance with frequent protein ingestion alomg with heavy training, his physique is possible. Those items would not be classified as steroids.

LMAO...what a bunch of pseudo-science bullshit.  Just precious.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: DK II on January 18, 2008, 07:54:29 AM
LMAO...what a bunch of pseudo-science bullshit.  Just precious.

are you saying "TheChemist" has his science knowledge from blowing his biology teacher under the desk so he didn't have to do another turn in the same class?
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: emn1964 on January 18, 2008, 07:55:58 AM
are you saying "TheChemist" has his science knowledge from blowing his biology teacher under the desk so he didn't have to do another turn in the same class?

Hahahahaha...lmao...
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: natural al on January 18, 2008, 08:02:19 AM
Can't test for GH remember??

His training is the AST HT version and only did 4-6 reps, maximum weight. All those AST guys say they are natural, Jeff Willet too! I would like to think they are natural and give them the benifit of the doubt but I do not see how with that training style and level of musuclarity and conditioning. I competed 13 years naturally and did well, but never got to the kind of conditioning of Skip or Jeff.

Who knows, maybe they come from a different planet like Ronnie!

for the most part skip uses max-ot training, max weight for 4-6 reps, 2-3 sets per excersise, 3-4 movements per bodypart, 1 bodypart a day.  Warm ups are kept to a minimum, it's all about overloading the hell out of the muscle, no fluff movements..just heavy as hell.  He also uses max-ot cardio which is a killer and he was hitting it 2 times a day...his work ethic is insane from what I understand.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: musclehedz on January 18, 2008, 08:29:12 AM
for the most part skip uses max-ot training, max weight for 4-6 reps, 2-3 sets per excersise, 3-4 movements per bodypart, 1 bodypart a day.  Warm ups are kept to a minimum, it's all about overloading the hell out of the muscle, no fluff movements..just heavy as hell.  He also uses max-ot cardio which is a killer and he was hitting it 2 times a day...his work ethic is insane from what I understand.

Exactly. His type of training is responsible for getting on 3% bodyfat without losing mass.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Bluto on January 18, 2008, 08:30:07 AM
for the most part skip uses max-ot training, max weight for 4-6 reps, 2-3 sets per excersise, 3-4 movements per bodypart, 1 bodypart a day.  Warm ups are kept to a minimum, it's all about overloading the hell out of the muscle, no fluff movements..just heavy as hell.  He also uses max-ot cardio which is a killer and he was hitting it 2 times a day...his work ethic is insane from what I understand.

yes
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: busyB on January 18, 2008, 09:51:59 AM
for the most part skip uses max-ot training, max weight for 4-6 reps, 2-3 sets per excersise, 3-4 movements per bodypart, 1 bodypart a day.  Warm ups are kept to a minimum, it's all about overloading the hell out of the muscle, no fluff movements..just heavy as hell.  He also uses max-ot cardio which is a killer and he was hitting it 2 times a day...his work ethic is insane from what I understand.

Yeah, that is what I was talking about. So with that intense of training at his age, hard to believe he was recovering enough without help. I would love to give him the benifit of the doubt, but I find it hard to believe he is all natural, even with spot on dieting?? 

Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: gh15 on January 18, 2008, 11:03:17 AM
Yeah, that is what I was talking about. So with that intense of training at his age, hard to believe he was recovering enough without help. I would love to give him the benifit of the doubt, but I find it hard to believe he is all natural, even with spot on dieting?? 



this is skip lacour status if was truly a natural lifter

weight = 165-175lb at true 8-10%

this is skip lacour status if clean for good 2 years

weight = 185-200lb at true 10%


both statuses are very good,,but guy cant do shit in industry with those satus ths the lies thuse the emourmous use via the years,,thus the masking of hormones under suplemets gh slin igf masteron m1t suspension and sublingual testosterone in tablets form ,,he practically uses/used anything but nandrolone decanoate and try to avoid long easter testosterones,,beside that he uses everything under the sun and in many cases equivelent in its use to anyother user
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: natural al on January 18, 2008, 11:12:02 AM
Exactly. His type of training is responsible for getting on 3% bodyfat without losing mass.

I didn't say that ;)



Yeah, that is what I was talking about. So with that intense of training at his age, hard to believe he was recovering enough without help. I would love to give him the benifit of the doubt, but I find it hard to believe he is all natural, even with spot on dieting?? 



he works with a guy that's got a PHD in nutrition, the guy who helps him with his workout has a PHD, he had a great team around him..that's gotta count for something. 

I don't know if he is natty or not I do know that he was in a situation that 99.9% of BB will never be in.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: gh15 on January 18, 2008, 11:19:11 AM
I didn't say that ;)



he works with a guy that's got a PHD in nutrition, the guy who helps him with his workout has a PHD, he had a great team around him..that's gotta count for something. 

I don't know if he is natty or not I do know that he was in a situation that 99.9% of BB will never be in.

there is no conection who work with you ,,its bodybuilding,,,you can have 10 phd around you including chad and get fucked by taking too much duretics or getting fucked because you didnt know how to use a products,,the phd is unessesary,,what skip does have is the ability to understand his body and claim natural ssatus at a level good enough for majority of public ,,general public,,to believe

bodybuilding is all a matter of how well you respnd to the drug and how well you can hide it,,the poroblrm is this getbig is a place were most guys atleast in the last 2 years since gh15 arrived know what it really takes,,,you got here bunch of professionals and its like a guy in a football team like liverpool will try to teach to another guy in the team of liverpool how to kick a fuckin football,,,its the top ,,you dont try to mask things around here,,here you say it as it is ,,,his natural satusts should be kept to his business endevours not to a place were 80-90% of guys know what it takes and been there
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: busyB on January 18, 2008, 11:21:55 AM
I didn't say that ;)



he works with a guy that's got a PHD in nutrition, the guy who helps him with his workout has a PHD, he had a great team around him..that's gotta count for something. 

I don't know if he is natty or not I do know that he was in a situation that 99.9% of BB will never be in.

Great, so having a "trainer" or "nutritionist" that has a PHD will net you the results Skip has? Great team, yes and he is lucky. Again, I don't discredit his efforts, diet, training, etc. I looked up to him many years and met him a few times as well. When you add it all up, just does not seem viable to me that he is 100% clean, just my opinion.

this is skip lacour status if was truly a natural lifter

weight = 165-175lb at true 8-10%

this is skip lacour status if clean for good 2 years

weight = 185-200lb at true 10%


both statuses are very good,,but guy cant do shit in industry with those satus ths the lies thuse the emourmous use via the years,,thus the masking of hormones under suplemets gh slin igf masteron m1t suspension and sublingual testosterone in tablets form ,,he practically uses/used anything but nandrolone decanoate and try to avoid long easter testosterones,,beside that he uses everything under the sun and in many cases equivelent in its use to anyother user

Pretty accurate. I am 5'8", trained Mentzer/Yates style for 13 years, ate very, very well 80% of the time when off season, dieted by the book, no cheating what so ever and took anything over the counter and still netted the results similar to what Mr.gh posted- maxing out at about 205 lb @ 10% BF before dieting. Beat guys on gear in NPC shows, qualifying for Team Universe 3 x and yet never could attain the results of Skip.

Maybe I am a bit less genetically gifted as him, could be, but just not buying it Al, that is all...
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: sgt. d on January 18, 2008, 11:28:00 AM
or maybe he just has testicles the size of baseballs

You seen his balls? :o
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: musclehedz on January 18, 2008, 12:46:03 PM
his natural satusts should be kept to his business endevours not to a place were 80-90% of guys know what it takes and been there

this is exactly why the media can't uncover the truth about juice in pro sports. all sponsors would run away

most people think marathons are done within 2 hours because of the new nike shoes instead of juice  :D
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: natural al on January 18, 2008, 01:02:11 PM
Great, so having a "trainer" or "nutritionist" that has a PHD will net you the results Skip has? Great team, yes and he is lucky. Again, I don't discredit his efforts, diet, training, etc. I looked up to him many years and met him a few times as well. When you add it all up, just does not seem viable to me that he is 100% clean, just my opinion.

Pretty accurate. I am 5'8", trained Mentzer/Yates style for 13 years, ate very, very well 80% of the time when off season, dieted by the book, no cheating what so ever and took anything over the counter and still netted the results similar to what Mr.gh posted- maxing out at about 205 lb @ 10% BF before dieting. Beat guys on gear in NPC shows, qualifying for Team Universe 3 x and yet never could attain the results of Skip.

Maybe I am a bit less genetically gifted as him, could be, but just not buying it Al, that is all...

again, I dont' know if he's natty or not, I'm just saying if you look at it and all the factors involved he's got a huge advantage over anyone he's competing againts.  I don't remember his journal from the ast site that well but I know for a fact that jeff willet talked alot about the guy doing the diets for him and skip working with him on specific aspects of his eating and they tweaked his training alot.  If you add that up with his dedication you're gonna get good results...

who knows if he's natty?  I don't but I don't know enough about drugs to argue about it, I just think if you put someone in the exact same position as skip was in they're gonna get better results than a guy just going to the gym and hoping he gets better if ya know what i mean.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: MCWAY on January 18, 2008, 01:04:59 PM
Great, so having a "trainer" or "nutritionist" that has a PHD will net you the results Skip has? Great team, yes and he is lucky. Again, I don't discredit his efforts, diet, training, etc. I looked up to him many years and met him a few times as well. When you add it all up, just does not seem viable to me that he is 100% clean, just my opinion.

Pretty accurate. I am 5'8", trained Mentzer/Yates style for 13 years, ate very, very well 80% of the time when off season, dieted by the book, no cheating what so ever and took anything over the counter and still netted the results similar to what Mr.gh posted- maxing out at about 205 lb @ 10% BF before dieting. Beat guys on gear in NPC shows, qualifying for Team Universe 3 x and yet never could attain the results of Skip.

Maybe I am a bit less genetically gifted as him, could be, but just not buying it Al, that is all...

Training Mentzer/Yates style for 13 years. Perhaps, that is a cause of your limited success. Heavy Duty has produced more causalties than champions, it seems, as people either get injured or burned out. Again, while I'm nowhere near LaCour's development (or even yours, perhaps), I remember that in my younger years, I got better results when following tips from 4-time Mr. Universe, Bill Pearl. One such tip was to STOP training to failure. That severely increased my ability to recover from training.

Are you an ectomorph, like me? If so, maybe eating "dirty", instead of "clean", would help you increase in mass. By "dirty" I mean beef, instead of chicken, whole eggs, instead of egg whites, etc. It took that kind of eating to get me over 200 lbs.; but, it worked.

I think for skinny guys, trying to eat "clean" and gain mass is an exercise in frustration. I once thought I might have to take steroids just to get to 200 lbs. But, using the aforementioned training and diet practices, one college semester, I went from 189 to 210 lbs. in three months, drug-free. I wasn't ripped at that weight; but overall, I was much bigger and stronger for my efforts.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: j3di3 on January 18, 2008, 01:12:58 PM
he and gustavo are both 100% natural  ::)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: kreator on January 18, 2008, 01:29:32 PM
or maybe he recycles his excrement to make sure none of the nutrients go to waste?!?! now that would be hardcore, two meals in one
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 18, 2008, 01:35:08 PM
if you look at it and all the factors involved he's got a huge advantage over anyone he's competing againts.  I don't remember his journal from the ast site that well but I know for a fact that jeff willet talked alot about the guy doing the diets for him and skip working with him on specific aspects of his eating and they tweaked his training alot.  If you add that up with his dedication you're gonna get good results...
Here's the thing: training and nutrition hasn't changed at all really since since the inception of modern bodybuilding. I always laugh when people say nutrition and training has gotten more scientific in the recent years. Eating chicken, eggs, potatoes, rice, red meat etc is new? LOL
Not a damn thing has changed except the chemical aspect. Yes, understanding of the physiological processes has advanced but it hasn't led to any new or revolutionary ways of eating or training.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Mydavid on January 18, 2008, 01:36:28 PM
i dont know man, but he swears he is
dsicuss

He is about as natural as my boobs are NOT fake. :D

Lisa
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: gh15 on January 18, 2008, 01:49:41 PM
many of us dont even have the time to eat right because of of the obligations we have to attend to,,it really huts to see the young dedicated guys like mcowy or others burn themselves out on the belif it is lettuce and zookini and some flax seed that make a bodybuilder what it is,,

its all in the drugs friends,,consistency in training with drugs and enough calories for your daily activitys ,,thats where it starts and thats where it ends when it comes to advaned bodybuilding,,

lacour jeff sagi all your natrural heros,, they are old fellas,,you talking here late 30s early mid 40s ,,at this age not only you dont grow anymore but! you shrink on a monthly basis and HAVE TO HAVE SYNTETIC HORMONAL SUPPOR TSYSTEM TO EVEN MAINTAIN SAME SAME SIZE OR QUALIOTY OF PHYSIQE,,

past 27-28 most guys cant grow even couple pounds of lean muscle mass with out synetic hormones,,and the ones who can are the ones who never touched weights and have a lot better genetic frames than lacour or anyother so called natural,,

it is a vishous cycle of living a lie and turning into christianity or other methods inorder to get out of the lie,,by saying other methods gh15 means covering your arms with tatoos etc


always remember my friends,,the moment you need to take a second look at a person,,and think oh he grew ,,or oh he got ripped,,or oh i wish i had this chest or these arms ,,in 99% of cases those guys are hormonized,,there is specific quality to physiqe on hormones that naturals can not achieve no matter what they do and its not only size ,,,it is specific swole and inflemation that thicken the physiqe as in over all thicknening thus resulting in powerful look that every single of team universe copetitpos poses,,

natural simply become too skinny when going on stage ,,they cant get down to the bodyfat% needed and remain swole or look powerful

Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Lauras Garden on January 18, 2008, 01:52:51 PM
He is about as natural as my boobs are NOT fake. :D

Lisa

sit by the fire with me, I'll comb your hair and rub your feet, oh sweet leggy princess

 :D
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: The Luke on January 18, 2008, 01:56:51 PM
Lacour's size (5'10'' ripped at 230 lbs) is Arnold-esque, which would seem to infer steroid usage... but then again his muscle development is not at Arnold's level. He makes up the size with glutes, hams, thighs, calves, and a thickly muscled midsection.

Is he truly natural? I don't know.

But I do know from training natural bodybuilders for competitions that the vast majority of natural trainers are sorely misguided (steroid users even more so).


Naturals are right to doubt the natural status of someone who has surpassed their FFMI (a topic on the Natural board discussed the Fat-Free-Muscle-Index at length), but similarly the vast majority of naturals who scream "ALL DRUGS!" are those who are painfully short of the FFMI quotient themselves.

I gotta start answering questions gh15 style for naturals before the misinformation becomes irreversible.


The Luke
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Mydavid on January 18, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
sit by the fire with me, I'll me comb your hair and rub your feet, oh sweet leggy princess

 :D

Oh my, it's internet love :-*

Lisa

PS. Where shall we meet ;)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Lauras Garden on January 18, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
Oh my, it's internet love :-*

Lisa

PS. Where shall we meet ;)

what type of hair-do are you sporting? do you still have the gorgeous long brown hair?

'dressed as Lara Croft the leggy lovely makes those balls bounce'

 ;)
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Mydavid on January 18, 2008, 04:12:30 PM
what type of hair-do are you sporting? do you still have the gorgeous long brown hair?

'dressed as Lara Croft the leggy lovely makes those balls bounce'

 ;)

Yes, muffin, same brown hair!!! As for the outfit, let's wait until after i get home from work ;D

Lisa
Title: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: New Hank Wood on January 19, 2008, 02:19:57 AM
Skip has been living the 'natural' lie for so long it has now become the truth!

 Of course he is on somatropin.  Open your eyes dipshits, he has the classsic signs igf-1; the thick waistline and bloated abdomen.

The aas talk is another story.  I imagine this compulsive liar would be using small amounts in the off-season; but his love and usage of hgh-somatropin is undeniable!

Bottom line, he is a drug user and in no way, shape or form has ever been  natural.

Keep livin the lie Skip, there are plenty of dumb ass believers who hang on to every word you spew out of that nattie-status-mouth of yours!
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Quickerblade on January 19, 2008, 02:29:02 AM
hey hank wheres luke wood, you scared his bloated waistline away
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: KillerMonk on January 19, 2008, 02:59:14 AM
If he was tested year round he would fail the Test, instead he uses Testosterone(Masteron)short acting ester cleaned out but the body in a matter of weeks, probaly uses this 2 weeks before the contest,his on HGH,IGF with the high test makes that HGH more dramatic in weight increased and conditioning.
I was once naive and thought he was natural now i know to get his size and conditioning are from drugs,Test him year round instead on the date of the contest and he be Busted,theres no way he could outmuscle Steve Reeves and Reg Park in the 50s by 30 pounds and much lower Bodyfat.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: New Hank Wood on January 19, 2008, 03:02:49 AM
Would love to see this 'career liar' being brought down to earth!

He rubs everyone's faces is his used syringes!
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Army of One on January 19, 2008, 04:53:03 AM
Would love to see this 'career liar' being brought down to earth!

He rubs everyone's faces is his used syringes!

Shawn, did you ever try training as a natural?
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: DK II on January 19, 2008, 05:30:45 AM
hank laying the smack down again.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: emn1964 on January 19, 2008, 06:40:34 AM
Shawn, did you ever try training as a natural?

Its not sean, its vince
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: cht868 on January 19, 2008, 06:45:49 AM
Skip and michael locket are the 2 best natural bodybuilders ever


 ::) ::) ::)

2 bad there both "juiced to the max"
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: emn1964 on January 19, 2008, 07:46:58 AM
Skip and michael locket are the 2 best liars  ever


 ::) ::) ::)

2 bad there both "juiced to the max"

fixed
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Bluto on January 19, 2008, 07:58:16 AM
you guys seem to know a lot about juicing. you all on drugs?
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: XFACTOR on January 19, 2008, 07:58:50 AM
You mean to tell me this guy not natural?  LMAO!!!!

Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Pete Nice on January 19, 2008, 08:39:47 AM
You mean to tell me this guy not natural?  LMAO!!!!



that's a great pic of skip though
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: BigSexy50 on January 19, 2008, 08:49:35 AM
If he was tested year round he would fail the Test, instead he uses Testosterone(Masteron)short acting ester cleaned out but the body in a matter of weeks, probaly uses this 2 weeks before the contest,his on HGH,IGF with the high test makes that HGH more dramatic in weight increased and conditioning.
I was once naive and thought he was natural now i know to get his size and conditioning are from drugs,Test him year round instead on the date of the contest and he be Busted,theres no way he could outmuscle Steve Reeves and Reg Park in the 50s by 30 pounds and much lower Bodyfat.

There is no such thing as Test (Masteron Ester).  He uses either test suspension or test prop.  Masteron is another compound altogrther, but it can be delivered with a propinate ester, allowing it to clear the body faster.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: timfogarty on January 19, 2008, 11:01:59 AM
There is no such thing as Test (Masteron Ester).  He uses either test suspension or test prop.  Masteron is another compound altogrther, but it can be delivered with a propinate ester, allowing it to clear the body faster.

and why would it even matter?  He's not being tested.   He hasn't competed in over 4 years.  He did enter Team Universe, but they never publish the results of their drug tests, nor have they every disqualified anyone who failed the test.   If TU actually performs drug testing, he could have failed it every year 1994-2003 and we'd never know.    The IFBB World Games, like all IFBB international events, randomly drug tests a small fraction of the contestants.

1990 was probably the last time he entered a truly drug tested contest.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: cht868 on January 19, 2008, 11:48:19 AM
skip is more full of shit than michael lockett
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: New Hank Wood on January 19, 2008, 02:33:54 PM
For well over a decade now, Skip has spent every waking minute trying to convince a sceptical bodybuilding community that he is clean! 

He writes books, gives seminars and talks endlessly on his supposed 'natural status'.  And you know what, the dumb-ass-believers lap up every fictional word he spouts!

Skip, enough is enough!  Speak on your love for Somatropin.  Educate the naive on your passion for IGF and HGH.  And while your at it, discuss how small amounts of Test can give quite surprising results.

Come clean you dirty little roid muncher!
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Camel Jockey on January 19, 2008, 02:44:19 PM
hahaha natural..

No fucking way.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: mass 04 on January 19, 2008, 02:48:28 PM
For well over a decade now, Skip has spent every waking minute trying to convince a sceptical bodybuilding community that he is clean! 

He writes books, gives seminars and talks endlessly on his supposed 'natural status'.  And you know what, the dumb-ass-believers lap up every fictional word he spouts!

Skip, enough is enough!  Speak on your love for Somatropin.  Educate the naive on your passion for IGF and HGH.  And while your at it, discuss how small amounts of Test can give quite surprising results.

Come clean you dirty little roid muncher!

hahahaahhahha
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Camel Jockey on January 19, 2008, 02:50:40 PM
Why do you guys think he has no hair?
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Bluto on January 19, 2008, 02:53:57 PM
Why do you guys think he has no hair?

maybe he's a skinhead
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Quickerblade on January 19, 2008, 02:59:20 PM


Come clean you dirty little roid muncher!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: jason armstrong on January 19, 2008, 03:24:08 PM
If he was tested year round he would fail the Test, instead he uses Testosterone(Masteron)short acting ester cleaned out but the body in a matter of weeks, probaly uses this 2 weeks before the contest,his on HGH,IGF with the high test makes that HGH more dramatic in weight increased and conditioning.
I was once naive and thought he was natural now i know to get his size and conditioning are from drugs,Test him year round instead on the date of the contest and he be Busted,theres no way he could outmuscle Steve Reeves and Reg Park in the 50s by 30 pounds and much lower Bodyfat.
goddamn you are dumb. :o
Testosterone isn't masteron ;)
too separate steroid asshole. :D
post something accurate or shut the fk up :-X
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: TrueGrit on January 19, 2008, 04:05:38 PM
He knows what every criminal and confidence trickster does : deny, deny and deny. Eventually a few people might start believing you.

I hope some fan goes Jigsaw on his pinholed ass and makes him jump in a barrel of his syringes like that Junkie bitch in the crappy second film - only decent character was the Latino juicer, who Skip would probably have related to well.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: KillerMonk on January 19, 2008, 04:41:11 PM
goddamn you are dumb. :o
Testosterone isn't masteron ;)
too separate steroid asshole. :D
post something accurate or shut the fk up :-X
So i got Masteron mixed up with Test, its been a while since i have used.Other than that what i said is accurate tested year round he would FAIL.
Why don,t you get your head out of your ass because all you do is post negative shit.Hope this helps you pole smoker.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: MCWAY on January 19, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
and why would it even matter?  He's not being tested.   He hasn't competed in over 4 years.  He did enter Team Universe, but they never publish the results of their drug tests, nor have they every disqualified anyone who failed the test.   If TU actually performs drug testing, he could have failed it every year 1994-2003 and we'd never know.    The IFBB World Games, like all IFBB international events, randomly drug tests a small fraction of the contestants.

1990 was probably the last time he entered a truly drug tested contest.

Drug testing is expensive, which is usually why only the top 3 or 5 of a weight class get screened. I've heard rumors that those who pop positive at TU shows simply don't get to compete and get dismissed quietly.

If someone take roids in natural show and still places 10th or 15th, it ain't even worth the effort to collect the sample.

LaCour has been competing as a natural bodybuilder since (at least) 1994. And, he's worked for MET-Rx, Twinlab, and now AST.

When he was with Twinlab, Steve Blechman had him as part of his staff, writing articles for All-Natural Muscular Development. In the first issue of ANMD, Blechman stated that he would only have natural bodybuilders on staff (which included LaCour). He also stated that all his guys would be tested and that, if anyone popped positive, they'd get canned and he would exposed them in his magazine.

You'd think that, after all these years, if LaCour (or any other well-known "nattie", at that time) had flunked a drug test over the last decade or so, someone would have the goods and made it public, by now.

As I said about the WBF in 1992, how many folks would support a bodybuilding show or organization, if it tested the way McMahon did back then? Again, Mike Christian popped positive and got fined $25,000, a month's pay; but, he was allowed to compete. If anyone remembers what he looked like at the 1992 WBF Championship, I think it's safe to say that he was being tested thoroughly.

The biggest knock on the TU seems to be its 1-year drug-free policy. Most folks feel that isn't enough, as some former drug users might still have some "residual effects" from their past roid use that would give them an advantage. That's the biggest controversy about drug-tested shows: How long does a former steroid user have to be off to be truly considered drug-free?

Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Bluto on January 19, 2008, 06:00:29 PM
Drug testing is expensive, which is usually why only the top 3 or 5 of a weight class get screened. I've heard rumors that those who pop positive at TU shows simply don't get to compete and get dismissed quietly.

If someone take roids in natural show and still places 10th or 15th, it ain't even worth the effort to collect the sample.

LaCour has been competing as a natural bodybuilder since (at least) 1994. And, he's worked for MET-Rx, Twinlab, and now AST.

When he was with Twinlab, Steve Blechman had him as part of his staff, writing articles for All-Natural Muscular Development. In the first issue of ANMD, Blechman stated that he would only have natural bodybuilders on staff (which included LaCour). He also stated that all his guys would be tested and that, if anyone popped positive, they'd get canned and he would exposed them in his magazine.

You'd think that, after all these years, if LaCour (or any other well-known "nattie", at that time) had flunked a drug test over the last decade or so, someone would have the goods and made it public, by now.

As I said about the WBF in 1992, how many folks would support a bodybuilding show or organization, if it tested the way McMahon did back then? Again, Mike Christian popped positive and got fined $25,000, a month's pay; but, he was allowed to compete. If anyone remembers what he looked like at the 1992 WBF Championship, I think it's safe to say that he was being tested thoroughly.

The biggest knock on the TU seems to be its 1-year drug-free policy. Most folks feel that isn't enough, as some former drug users might still have some "residual effects" from their past roid use that would give them an advantage. That's the biggest controversy about drug-tested shows: How long does a former steroid user have to be off to be truly considered drug-free?



so what are you saying you reckon he is natural or not?
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: jason armstrong on January 19, 2008, 06:03:28 PM
So i got Masteron mixed up with Test, its been a while since i have used.Other than that what i said is accurate tested year round he would FAIL.
Why don,t you get your head out of your ass because all you do is post negative shit.Hope this helps you pole smoker.
nice imbecile another asshole pretending to know something. ::)
jesus there are some brutally stupid kids on here like you. :-\ :P
like i said keep your mouth shut  :-X about shit you dot know about which seems to be EVERYTHING :-X
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: timfogarty on January 19, 2008, 06:09:56 PM
Drug testing is expensive, which is usually why only the top 3 or 5 of a weight class get screened. I've heard rumors that those who pop positive at TU shows simply don't get to compete and get dismissed quietly.

those two statements aren't compatible.   the top 3 or 5 aren't known until after they compete.   plus drug tests take time to process.   either TU is testing everyone days or weeks in advance, and quietly dismissing those who fail, or they're testing the top 3-5 after the contest.  but no one has ever lost their placing, so there doesn't seem to be any consequences in failing a drug test.

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When he was with Twinlab, Steve Blechman had him as part of his staff, writing articles for All-Natural Muscular Development. In the first issue of ANMD, Blechman stated that he would only have natural bodybuilders on staff (which included LaCour). He also stated that all his guys would be tested and that, if anyone popped positive, they'd get canned and he would exposed them in his magazine.

talk is cheap.  it gives you plausible deniability.  no one was ever exposed, so therefore no one ever failed a drug test.  or maybe no one was ever given a drug test because no one really wants to know.   those in power know that you have to take drugs to look the way the public expects you to look.

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You'd think that, after all these years, if LaCour (or any other well-known "nattie", at that time) had flunked a drug test over the last decade or so, someone would have the goods and made it public, by now.

perhaps he's never flunked a drug test because no test has ever been completed, or the results were never looked at.   everyone pees in a cup at musclemania, but then they're poured down the drain.


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As I said about the WBF in 1992, how many folks would support a bodybuilding show or organization, if it tested the way McMahon did back then?

no one.  Fans will not attend a pro show where all the guys are smaller than the guys at your local gym.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: TrueGrit on January 19, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
We all know that Skip is not a lifetime natural. If you genuinely believe that in the course of his entire life and training - just the early days if you want to insist he is clean now - that AAS have never entered his bloodstream then you're beyond hope.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Bluto on January 19, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
We all know that Skip is not a lifetime natural. If you genuinely believe that in the course of his entire life and training - just the early days if you want to insist he is clean now - that AAS have never entered his bloodstream then you're beyond hope.

whats his early days? didnt he start out really late?
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: TrueGrit on January 19, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
whats his early days? didnt he start out really late?
When he first started training.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Bluto on January 19, 2008, 06:20:09 PM
When he first started training.

why would he start off juicing from the get go? thats not so common
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: TrueGrit on January 19, 2008, 06:23:21 PM
why would he start off juicing from the get go? thats not so common

Bluto..I mean his early years. People might say 'he has defo been clean for x years' ..my point is that we all know he has taken AAS.


 I also , sadly, have seen many guys start juicing within a few months of training. Lot of 'gurus' around with 'just what you need' in nearly every gym I've worked out in
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: MCWAY on January 19, 2008, 08:00:44 PM
so what are you saying you reckon he is natural or not?

My point was that, if anyone has set up set up for a huge fall if his drug-free claims weren't true, it's one Skip LaCour. I would have thought the MD crew (who went from swearing that no steroid-using bodybuilder would ever be in their magazine again, to singing the praises of roids) would have been the first to "out" LaCour, Coleman (the "Alcatraz" one), Faildo, and the others, being that MD is "hardcore" and all.


Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: MCWAY on January 19, 2008, 08:11:45 PM
those two statements aren't compatible.   the top 3 or 5 aren't known until after they compete.   plus drug tests take time to process.   either TU is testing everyone days or weeks in advance, and quietly dismissing those who fail, or they're testing the top 3-5 after the contest.  but no one has ever lost their placing, so there doesn't seem to be any consequences in failing a drug test.

My guess is that the former is happening: those who flunk the test get dismissed and don't get to compete at the TU.

talk is cheap.  it gives you plausible deniability.  no one was ever exposed, so therefore no one ever failed a drug test.  or maybe no one was ever given a drug test because no one really wants to know.   those in power know that you have to take drugs to look the way the public expects you to look.

With Blechman ditching his word that no steroid-using bodybuilders would ever be in his magazine again, to signing the praises of roids (once he separated from Twinlab), I'd think that he (or someone on his staff, who was with him during the ANMD days) would have spilled the beans on LaCour or any of the other guys.


perhaps he's never flunked a drug test because no test has ever been completed, or the results were never looked at.   everyone pees in a cup at musclemania, but then they're poured down the drain.

Again, if someone had a report on a flunked sample by LaCour, it would have been exposed, to this point.

no one.  Fans will not attend a pro show where all the guys are smaller than the guys at your local gym.

Then, the fans need to quite complaining about drugs in bodybuilding and the health of the bodybuilders, blaiming the problems on the promoters, Weider, etc.


Besides, even as off as they were, the WBF bodybuilders were far bigger than your average gym rat (except for maybe Mike Christian and David Dearth).
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: timfogarty on January 19, 2008, 09:14:21 PM
My guess is that the former is happening: those who flunk the test get dismissed and don't get to compete at the TU.

No, they are not testing people days prior to the contest.

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Then, the fans need to quite complaining about drugs in bodybuilding and the health of the bodybuilders, blaiming the problems on the promoters, Weider, etc.

what people are complaining about are the abuse of GH, insulin and diuretics.  The protruding stomachs, the grainy skin.  (and the strangely shaped muscles from synthol and site injections)  Most would be quite happy with the relatively healthy looking physiques of the late 1970s and early 1980s.    The judges have complete control over that.

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Besides, even as off as they were, the WBF bodybuilders were far bigger than your average gym rat

IF they were clean, they were at most 6 months clean.    Years of massive doses followed by 6 months or even a year of no steroids does not give you a natural physique.   If you truly get rid of performance enhancing drugs, you'll have physiques of the 1950s.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 19, 2008, 09:26:09 PM
Tim Fogarty knows bodybuilding. MCWAY, not so much.  8)

MCWAY, when MD went "all natural" it still featured pretty much all doped up physiques. Just a touch smaller.

Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: New Hank Wood on January 19, 2008, 10:56:23 PM
Look, Skip is a business man, first and foremost.  His business is selling a product; the product being 'the natural ideal'.

Skip has grown wealthy selling this illusion.  Many fans of the industry believe in Skip's product.  Skip will continue to play upon the gullibility of these misguided and deluded wannabees. 

Skip will continue to 'not' practice what he preaches as he knows that is where the money is at!

Keep on shootin those syringes Skip, and keep on cashing those cheques.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: MCWAY on January 20, 2008, 04:11:19 AM
No, they are not testing people days prior to the contest.

what people are complaining about are the abuse of GH, insulin and diuretics.  The protruding stomachs, the grainy skin.  (and the strangely shaped muscles from synthol and site injections)  Most would be quite happy with the relatively healthy looking physiques of the late 1970s and early 1980s.    The judges have complete control over that.

So who defines "use" vs. "abuse"? We could have many of the same health problems from some (not all) of the "relatively healthy looking physiques".



IF they were clean, they were at most 6 months clean.    Years of massive doses followed by 6 months or even a year of no steroids does not give you a natural physique.   If you truly get rid of performance enhancing drugs, you'll have physiques of the 1950s.

Three months, actually. The WBF started its drug testing in March 4, 1992; the WBF Championship was June 13th that same year.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: aliamini on January 20, 2008, 04:48:11 AM
Bill Philips said he was natural and look where he got EAS … the biggest supplement company … in 06 EAS was estimated to be worth US$800 million … compare to the 2nd biggest Muscletech US$ 80 million … all of that by promoting natural fitness / bodybuilding … and that is what skip is doing …

Bill sold the company to Abbott Pharmaceutical for US$400 million in 04 ( I think) … his share was US$ 300 million … he went on investing US$ 130 or 150 million in a new supplement company thinking it will do the same … but he ended up losing the amount … I don’t even know the name of that company … very wrong move if you ask me … now says it is really hard to get in the supplement market … or even survive for that matter is you are not a leader and have been one of the pioneers …

Asking g if skip is natural or not is like when Britney spears said she was a virgin … everyone knew the answer … but … some people still wanted to think she was … so the same thing with skip … for any actual bodybuilder the reality is clear … but some of them still want to believe he is natural …

P.S. doping test does not indicate natural bodybuilding
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: busyB on January 20, 2008, 08:47:11 AM
Training Mentzer/Yates style for 13 years. Perhaps, that is a cause of your limited success. Heavy Duty has produced more causalties than champions, it seems, as people either get injured or burned out. Again, while I'm nowhere near LaCour's development (or even yours, perhaps), I remember that in my younger years, I got better results when following tips from 4-time Mr. Universe, Bill Pearl. One such tip was to STOP training to failure. That severely increased my ability to recover from training.

Are you an ectomorph, like me? If so, maybe eating "dirty", instead of "clean", would help you increase in mass. By "dirty" I mean beef, instead of chicken, whole eggs, instead of egg whites, etc. It took that kind of eating to get me over 200 lbs.; but, it worked.

I think for skinny guys, trying to eat "clean" and gain mass is an exercise in frustration. I once thought I might have to take steroids just to get to 200 lbs. But, using the aforementioned training and diet practices, one college semester, I went from 189 to 210 lbs. in three months, drug-free. I wasn't ripped at that weight; but overall, I was much bigger and stronger for my efforts.

Well MR. Ecto, I am far from skinny and never was skinny, sorry you had to go thru life that way... but thanks for the tips, even though they have no relavance to me or my level of development.. I never realized you needed to eat to grow. What a revelation genius!!

I never said my progress was hampered by my HD training style. Was making an illustration that I was training similar to Skip, ate similar to Skip but yet never could reach his level of conditioning natural. He could have superior genetics, true, but I just don't see it being possible to be at the level he was without at least GH. That is all!
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: Mars on January 20, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
Yes, muffin, same brown hair!!! As for the outfit, let's wait until after i get home from work ;D

Lisa

why you flirt with other men Lisa? you know what they do with this kind of things on the holy land of Saudie Arabia?
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: MCWAY on January 20, 2008, 09:17:36 AM
Well MR. Ecto, I am far from skinny and never was skinny, sorry you had to go thru life that way... but thanks for the tips, even though they have no relavance to me or my level of development.. I never realized you needed to eat to grow. What a revelation genius!!

Don't cry for me, BusyB!!! I used to think that being an ectomorph was a curse. Instead, it became an advantage.

And, despite your "kind" remark, my personal discovery wasn't simply that I needed to eat; it was WHAT I needed to eat.  Believe me, I'll take whole eggs over egg whites and beef over chicken, almost anyday.


I never said my progress was hampered by my HD training style. Was making an illustration that I was training similar to Skip, ate similar to Skip but yet never could reach his level of conditioning natural. He could have superior genetics, true, but I just don't see it being possible to be at the level he was without at least GH. That is all!

Never claimed you did (hence, the use of the word, "PERHAPS"). But, I've interacted with a number of posters who burned themselves out, using HD.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: busyB on January 20, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
Don't cry for me, BusyB!!! I used to think that being an ectomorph was a curse. Instead, it became an advantage.

And, despite your "kind" remark, my personal discovery wasn't simply that I needed to eat; it was WHAT I needed to eat.  Believe me, I'll take whole eggs over egg whites and beef over chicken, almost anyday.

Never claimed you did (hence, the use of the word, "PERHAPS"). But, I've interacted with a number of posters who burned themselves out, using HD.

Yeah, you said, "might be the cause of my limited success" "caused more casualties than champions"

I did quite well competiting and training HD style and know lots of guys that have too..I think some guy named Dorian only won 6 Mr. O's with this training style, what a failure.  :-\   


Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: New Hank Wood on January 20, 2008, 11:19:24 AM
Skip,the truth will set you free. 

By unloading and admitting to drug abuse over the years will be a cleansing and rewarding experience for Skip.

Skip spends his whole time trying to cover his ass.  Must be exhausting for this pill popper.
Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: timfogarty on January 20, 2008, 11:24:41 AM
Skip,the truth will set you free. 

Hank Wood, the truth will set you free.  Stand by your words with your real name.  People will take what you say more seriously.
Title: Re: is skip la cour natural?
Post by: MCWAY on January 20, 2008, 11:53:52 AM
Yeah, you said, "might be the cause of my limited success" "caused more casualties than champions"


I did quite well competiting and training HD style and know lots of guys that have too..I think some guy named Dorian only won 6 Mr. O's with this training style, what a failure.  :-\   

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Eleven men have won the Mr. Olympia. One has done so, training Heavy Duty.


Title: Re: Skip la Cour: ''Why do you think i would lie about being a nattie!''
Post by: The Luke on January 20, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
Stand by your words with your real name.  People will take what you say more seriously.


...post of the decade.



The Luke