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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: loco on January 18, 2008, 12:15:46 PM
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Window washer falls 47 stories ... and lives
Alcides Moreno fell 47 stories and lived to tell the tale.
The window washer rode a 16-foot scaffold as it careered down the side of a skyscraper and crashed into the alley nearly 500 feet below.
His brother, Edgar, died in the Dec. 7 accident. But now, less than a month later, Alcides is alive and alert. He's chatting with relatives. And doctors say they expect him to walk at the end of a year-long course of physical therapy.
"Thank God for this miracle that we've had," his wife, Rosario, tells reporters, according to the New York Post.
The hospital says it was touch-and-go for quite a while, with Moreno receiving 24 units of blood and undergoing more than a dozen surgeries while doctors kept him in a medically induced coma.
"If you're a believer in miracles, this would be one," says Dr. Philip Barie, chief of critical care at New York-Presbyterian Hospital Weill Cornell, according to the Daily News. "I've seen it all - or at least I think I have - until something like this happens."
Authorities are investigating the cause of the accident. No one's sure how Alcides survived the fall, leading us to conclude that it was the Miracle on 66th Street.
“This is right up there with those anecdotes of people falling out of airplanes and surviving, people whose parachutes don’t open and somehow they manage to survive,” Barie tells The New York Times. “We’re talking about tiny, tiny percentages, well under 1%, of people who fall that distance and survive.”
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/01/window-washer-f.html
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Wow, God is a jerk!!! Why did he intervene to save one, but let the other die so callously, so needlessly? Why does he play favorites?
Or is Yahweh not so omnipotent in his old age? ???
And the one he did save, why not just save him? ??? Why not send angels to help him land softly on the ground? Why "save him" and inflict these major injuries at the same time?
Miracle? Or an incompetent wizard who lets a man die when he could have saved him just as easily?
Or just plain chance?
I go with plain chance. There are no miracles.
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Wow, God is a jerk!!! Why did he intervene to save one, but let the other die so callously, so needlessly? Why does he play favorites?
Or is Yahweh not so omnipotent in his old age? ???
And the one he did save, why not just save him? ??? Why not send angels to help him land softly on the ground? Why "save him" and inflict these major injuries at the same time?
Miracle? Or an incompetent wizard who lets a man die when he could have saved him just as easily?
Or just plain chance?
I go with plain chance. There are no miracles.
Ask Dr. Philip Barie.
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If God wants to take credit for saving this one, however incompetently he did it, he has to take the blame for killing all the other window washers who took a fall, including his brother.
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If God wants to take credit for saving this one, however incompetently he did it, he has to take the blame for killing all the other window washers who took a fall, including his brother.
Who is saying God wants to take credit? And what killed those others was the fall, not God.
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Who is saying God wants to take credit?
The wife, Rosario, in the article.
And what killed those others was the fall, not God.
If he was able and willing to save one, he should have been able and willing to save the rest.
If he is unable, then he is no longer omnipotent.
If he is unwilling, then he is guilty of manslaughter.
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he should have been ..... willing to save the rest.
Coldude, how do you presume to know what God should be willing to do or not do?
If he is unwilling, then he is guilty of manslaughter.
Are you saying God caused this man's death by creating gravity? Or that God forced the man to go up on the scaffold that day?
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One thing to note reading that is that without modern medicine the guy would have been dead.
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Coldude, how do you presume to know what God should be willing to do or not do?
I don't "presume to know" anything. I simply follow eventualities to their logical conclusions. Re-read my posts and see if you can find a logical fallacy.
Are you saying God caused this man's death by creating gravity? Or that God forced the man to go up on the scaffold that day?
I see someone's been reading "MCWAY's Guide to Putting Words in Other People's Mouths"...
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