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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: old nutrition man on January 18, 2008, 12:20:29 PM
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How much should you take of the IGF-L3 (syntrom) If you are getting ready for a show? 6ft 230lb at 7%bf this will be my 6th show never with HGH or IGF
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I'll probably be starting a thread on this later this weekend when I have some time to gather some notes, but first things first.
How far out are you from the show? What AAS are you on and what dose of HGH are you currently using?
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I'm taking 750mg aweek of test E 100mg WV a day and 100 mg of A50 a day no HGH show is in 24 weeks
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That's a lot of A50, UG stuff?
As far as the Long R3 IGF-1, if you have the real deal stuff, then the general consensus is to inject immediately post work out into the muscles that you just worked. Most guys are using 20-40mcgs (10-20mcgs per muscle). If you start getting into really high doses, 60+ mcgs then you risk spill over of the IGF into the rest of the body which will eventually give you the permanent pregnant look. A lot of guys will carry the pins with them pre-loaded with IGF and bring some BW with them to add right before injection right after their workout. You don't want to store the IGF in BW as it will rapidly break down. It's a pretty fragile peptide so careful handling is a must, repeatedly dropping it on the ground could damage it. Also, you should not be injecting every day, for a 24 week cycle every 3 days is most recommended due to receptor downregulation in the muscle fibers.
You should start to lean out more, become more vascular and get really great pumps.
Something to note as well, if you get gassy, typically an hour after injecting, then you are using too much, back off the dosage until you stop getting gassy. This is an indicator that excess IGF from the inject is spilling over into the rest of the body.
Also some guys go hypo after injecting so take the necessary precautions just in case.
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First off, before anything else, I have never used IGF-1. I am familiar with it, and know many people who do...I even have some of the guys I prep use it...I've simply chosen not to use it myself at this time. Will I? There is a good chance but when I'm not sure as of yet.
I would recommend a 4wk on 2wk off protocol with this stuff.
2nd thing, I would opt to use HGH before IGF if I were only going to use one of them. Together they are tough to beat, but alone, HGH is going to be far more worth while IMO.
40-50mcg/ed in divided doses seems to me to be a good place to start.
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2nd thing, I would opt to use HGH before IGF if I were only going to use one of them. Together they are tough to beat, but alone, HGH is going to be far more worth while IMO.
GREAT advice
from what I see, IGF is a complete waste of money. It's pretty cheap so if you really want to try it you don't have much to lose but nobody who used that stuff said something positive about it.
HGH is the shit tho, if you can afford it you should go for that
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GREAT advice
from what I see, IGF is a complete waste of money. It's pretty cheap so if you really want to try it you don't have much to lose but nobody who used that stuff said something positive about it.
HGH is the shit tho, if you can afford it you should go for that
Cheap? I'm a couple provinces over and even though I've never used it I always here about how expensive it is. But I agree, nobody seems to be exactly raving about their results.
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Cheap? I'm a couple provinces over and even though I've never used it I always here about how expensive it is. But I agree, nobody seems to be exactly raving about their results.
The real stuff is relatively expensive, Gropep is about as good as it gets and it's pricey. It's still a relatively new peptide and a lot of misinformation coupled with a TON of places selling garbage IGF leads to a lot of bad reports on it. As AJ said though, real LR3 IGF + IGF is an insane combo. The great thing about IGF is you don't loose the gains you get from it, once the cells mature they're there for good, which can be a bad thing if abused, obviously.