Next time you come to America gh15, look me up bro, I have a Doc Marten I'd like to put in your mouth. :-*
How do you know gh15 isn't one of us?I don't, but he claims he lives outside of the US....so next time he's in town, he can look me up, we'll do lunch.
Haha. He's running out of names/gimmicks. The fu is too strong around here for
sharma is having a meltdown :D
Better McCain over Billary or Obama.
McCain is realist. He will exploit Iraq and other nations with resources, while presenting respectable face to the world. What more can you ask for?
He's a tought sob too.. Proven, unlike our current nancy boy in office. He isn't a true conservative by any means, but more of a realist.
If McCain gets the Republican ticket he'll have a vote from me over any Democrat; as I'm rather sick of hearing about national health care that'll raise taxes, apologist garbage, the usual hippy bullshit that'll turn this country into something like an European country. A country with 50% income tax, welfare for the worthless, and apologist behavior.
All this unless Ron Paul can get it, which he wont.
He will exploit Iraq and other nations with resources, while presenting respectable face to the world. What more can you ask for?
Correct.Is that Dubai, India, 240?
IF
He can curb the out-of-control spending.
Remember that Haliburton is moving to Dubai in fall of 2008. Does this mean the gravy train is ending? If McCain stops spending, he saves the economy. If he keeps spending, it'll tank, baby.
Next time you come to America gh15, look me up bro, I have a Doc Marten I'd like to put in your mouth. :-*i'm sure he's terrified. ::)
i'm sure he's terrified. ::)He must be, he hasn't responded. :D
Better McCain over Billary or Obama.
McCain is realist. He will exploit Iraq and other nations with resources, while presenting respectable face to the world. What more can you ask for?
He's a tough sob too.. Proven, unlike our current nancy boy in office. He isn't a true conservative by any means, but more of a realist.
If McCain gets the Republican ticket he'll have a vote from me over any Democrat; as I'm rather sick of hearing about national health care that'll raise taxes, apologist garbage, the usual hippy bullshit that'll turn this country into something like an European country. A country with 50% income tax, welfare for the worthless, and apologist behavior.
All this unless Ron Paul can get it, which he wont.
Is that Dubai, India, 240?
Mccain = Bush No difference ::). The war in Iraq will never end if Mccain wins. And you will continue to see the same things happening in the states, it will be a sad day in America if Mccain wins.TEAM OBAMA!!
MattT-we'll be there for the next 30-40 years at least, no one is gonna change that.
Obama won't end the war either. He'll scale back the offensives, but the bases are there to stay - any military person will tell you. And we are going to be pumping 80% of their oil out, forever. It's contractually set and the longterm deal exists above our next prez or theirs. And we'll always have men there to protect that oil.
We're permanently there just like the 50k men we have in Korea. They'll still be there in Iraq in 50 years. Obama dislikes the war, but no way is he going to WALK AWAY from control of 40 trillion $ worth of oil.
we'll be there for the next 30-40 years at least, no one is gonna change that.
we'll be there for the next 30-40 years at least, no one is gonna change that.
maybe Dubya isn't so stupid after all. ;D
maybe Dubya isn't so stupid after all. ;D
I think in a couple of decades once the reality of what's really going on now becomes more common knowledge, he'll be judged better by history than he has been by his contemporaries.
How do you explain this to people like MattC that just refuse to accept it?
I think in a couple of decades once the reality of what's really going on now becomes more common knowledge, he'll be judged better by history than he has been by his contemporaries.
How do you explain this to people like MattC that just refuse to accept it?
while many of us stick with "what's right from my country... fvck the rest of the world".Isn't that the only way? ;)
Only stupid people still think it was about WMD and 'democracy'.
Isn't that the only way? ;)
Jeb, wolfowitz, cheney, and all them planned it all in 2000. They published it, the PNAC document. They said that we'd invade a group of nations to secure their oil. It's exactly what we did. We voted for it!
Everyone calls the bush presidency a failure cause we're not crushing iraq. Shit, we're stealing their lifeblood from under their feet, while they are killing each other. Could you design it any better? hahahaha It's like getting your two worst enemies to fistfight while you have a 3-way with their girlfriends.
for most practical people in the MIDDLE.The truth shall set them free.
Remember there are far right, and far left people.
The far left 10% believe that we should all live happily together, avoid conflict, and never take things from others. Fine and dandy, but unrealistic.
The far 10% right believe pre-emptive for wars for oil/bases are immoral, so they have to be lied to. The WMD story is for them. Guys here that STILL say we invaded to spread democracy, not oil. Cause they know they put Bush into office, and his invading for oil means tens of thousands of iraqis have died because of their vote. They are weak, and need simple lies to keep their heads up.
So basically what you are saying is that it was worth the 3000+ soldiers dieing over there for some oil?
Me? I'm all about doing what is necessary to ensure a long and prosperous life for my kids and my grandkids kids.... :)
It's funny how so many of us don't give a shit about others, so long as we have our standard of living. I'm one of them.
Most of us grow into that in our late 20s/early 30s.Are you saying I'm old? :P
There are a lot of stupid people out there, 240. ::)
It's because our standard of living is so much higher that the rest of the world's, and has been acheived, in part, by taking advantage of much of the rest of the world. But most of us don't understand that reality until later in life.
So we grow up thinking the way we live is "normal", and grow used to our relative luxuaries (like electricity, running water, medical care, automobiles, 3 meals a day, etc). Then at some we gain a true understanding the way things work. Then we are faced with a choice: be "moral" and trade our nice comfortable middle-class lifestyle for an African or Asian or Latin American or eastern european type existance, or say "fuck it", accept reality, and fight for what we have.
And just for the record, not only Mr. Bush believed that there were WMD in Iraq but so did every other Western country.
The UN inspectors who were on the ground in Iraq didn't think there was WMD ;)
Did you just pulled that out of your vagina between 2 diaper change?
I just felt like arguing with him. I support the war, there's no need to get rude.
AMERICA I REALLY REALLY THINK YOU PEOPLE IN GENERAL HAVE BRAIN DSPITE THE WHORES AND MORONS AMONG YOU ,,,YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING,,
JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,,
AGAIN GOOD JOB AMERICA! YOU ARE MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR YOUR HORMONES TO GET UNCONTROLLED,,YOU TAKING AMERICA INTO THE BEST 8 YEARS IN ITS HISTORY SINCE PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN
NEW TIMES ARE COMING UPON AMERICA,,IT STARTED NOW,,THE WORLD WILL LIKE YOU AGAIN AND WILL TRULY LOOK AT AMERICA AS THE SHINING STAR IT SHOUDL BE,,I AM HAPPY FOR YOU FRIENDS,,YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING
CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA ,,STILL HAVE BRAIN AFTERALL
As long as it isn't a lib who gets in, I don't care who's Pres.
As long as it isn't a lib who gets in, I don't care who's Pres.
Did you just pulled that out of your vagina between 2 diaper change?
would you prefer a nazi or a lib, joe?;D
would you prefer a nazi or a lib, joe?
You know as well as I do a Lib pacifist would never protect this country.
You know as well as I do a Lib pacifist would never protect this country.
im all for taking the iraqi's oil, but with such an abundance of oil now in US hands, the gas prices need to come down
Joe, Do you think Obama or Hilary will walk away from all the oil and close up all those bases?
This is the key.
Would the Western world be the same without a Spartan State?
Constant Liberalism leads to decacence and invasion. Athens fell for a reason.
If it were in our hands it would have been brought down, but since the enviro's won't let us drill, we have to use the other sources. They are obviously too stupid to realize this. Instead they have to fight to protect some tree, fish or bird that I could be using on my diet >:(
As long as it isn't a lib who gets in, I don't care who's Pres.
I wonder if Jesus would fall into this category if he was standing here today.
I agree with you on no libs, but no bible-beaters either, Joe! >:(
What did Carter do? :-X :-X :-X :-X
Jeebus was a long-haired hippy!
No President has the power to drive the country down.
Suppose a dem gets in and decides to close all the bases, give all the oil to china, and say sorry.
Joe, do you REALLY believe this would happen? I mean, it sounds like you love to use words like 'lib' and 'lacifist' - repeating what you heard on Rush this morning - but you seem to not realize that presidents don't have the power to hurt longterm advantages.
Russia got powerful and the US ran outta gas.
In the next 4 years, Russia will get powerful again, and we won't run out of gas. It's an improvement. We certainly won't make the same mistake twice. There is zero chance any Prez will be given the option to walk away from our new advantages.
Undoubtedly, he was a believer in the future of his people.
Would Jesus support a pre-emptive war for oil?
Would Jesus support a pre-emptive war for oil?
Honestly no Rob, we already found that out when they won on lies, they haven't done shit that they said they would do. What I'm saying, if we are attacked on our soil again, they would do the same thing Clinton did...........nothing and if you do nothing, that practically gives them carte blanche to do again........and again.........and again.
goatboy, you are a realistic person.
Would Jesus support a pre-emptive war for oil?
sounds like you need to enlist lardass, just drop 40 pounds and im sure they will let you in some branch, probably the navy. As long as someone else serves right ?
Stop with that shit Rob, ask Clintons boy Tenent.
Undoubtedly, he was a believer in the future of his people.
Clinton was asked what she would do if 2 american cities were attacked.
Her response was immediate: "Retaliate".
I believe Clinton would bomb the shit out of anyone who tried that. She's a hawk.
Joe - do you HONESTLY believe a country could attack us, and Clinton would do nothing?
Seriously, you really believe that?
He didn't do shit when the they tried to bring the towars down in 93', he didn't do shit when the USS Cole was hit in 2000, he didn't do shit when OUR Embassys were bombed on his watch, he had Bin Laden more than 10 times and let him go......WTF Rob, you want more?
You can't answer that! That's why I like to challenge you for your hypocracy.
You're full of hate for democrats, this is obvious.
You know the war was oil theft, and YOU SUPPORT IT.
Most of us who support it admit we're okay with theft, cause it's for the greater good.
I find it hypocrital of you, that you won't agree you support theft. You distract it with "clinton's boy tenet did this 10 years ago" instead of answering.
Would Jesus support pre-emptively killing someone who hasn't attacked you? Yes or no, joe?
He didn't do shit when the they tried to bring the towars down in 93', he didn't do shit when the USS Cole was hit in 2000, he didn't do shit when OUR Embassys were bombed on his watch, he had Bin Laden more than 10 times and let him go......WTF Rob, you want more?
Bush did more to protect this country than anyother President in recent memory!!!!!!!!!
This is the key.
Would the Western world be the same without a Spartan State?
Constant Liberalism leads to decacence and invasion. Athens fell for a reason.
Hilary, Joe.
Not Bill.
What would Hilary do in 2009 if attacked.
I know you have a great hate for the man you voted for, Bill. But what would Hilary do, Joe?
Bush did more to protect this country than anyother President in recent memory!!!!!!!!!
Rob........Hillary IS Bill. She has no credentials or experiance to be President exept for riding his coattails.
Bush did what FDR did.
He allowed a small attack in order to justify nipping a problem in the bud and gaining longterm strategic advantages.
No one is arguing that with you.
I just like to see you dodge the moral question. Religious people love to do this. THey support the war, which is about stealing oil. I just want to see you admit you support stealing.
He didn't do shit when the they tried to bring the towars down in 93', he didn't do shit when the USS Cole was hit in 2000, he didn't do shit when OUR Embassys were bombed on his watch, he had Bin Laden more than 10 times and let him go......WTF Rob, you want more?
Bush did more to protect this country than anyother President in recent memory!!!!!!!!!
Bullshit Rob, if I knew for a FACT it was theft, they I wouldn't have supported it.
im all for taking the iraqi's oil, but with such an abundance of oil now in US hands, the gas prices need to come down
in 1998 Clinton had Bin Laden in his Crosshair but didn't not anything because of heartwarming "collaterals" ...
All in Richard Clarke's book...
Prove to me that we over there for the sole purpose of "stealing" oil and I'll concede.
Prove to me that we over there for the sole purpose of "stealing" oil and I'll concede
Bush didn't kill OBL in 2005 because it would undermine Musharraf.
You think ensuring our oil supply is about GAS PRICES?? ::) ::) ::)
I swear to god, no wonder people are still debating Iraq. Hardly anyone understands what's at stake.
Hey Rob, my best friend whom I'm around everyday owns a couple of full blown hospitals........does that make me brain surgeon??
WTF are you crazy Joe ?
Again, can you back this out of you just like to argue on the internet?
huh?
look, i just like to argue. I'll argue the sky is blue. We're on the same side of this war. I support it, and I'm okay if they want to bomb Iran. I just enjoy seeing people squirm when confronted with the facts. It's nothing personal, i love ya joe. I just like to argue.
NOW, we are protecting the oil, but whoever thinks we went over there for the sole purpose of the oil is delusional.
I just like to argue. But white house did admit in mid-july 2007 that we didn't kill OBL in the paki/afghan border in 2005 when we had the chance because we wanted to let musharraf do it.
that was odd to me. i thought we'd trample old ladies to get to osama.
Whoever thinks oil isn't a good enough reason all on its own really doesn't understand what happens to us if our oil supply gets squeezed, even a little.
Whoever thinks oil isn't a good enough reason all on its own really doesn't understand what happens to us if our oil supply gets squeezed, even a little.
Well the bright side is, a 1/4 mile meteor is approaching dangerously close to our Earth and will make it's pass or hit the 29th. Let's hope for a galactic home run!
I completely understand and agree........but didn't we go there with the original intention to steal it.
why we go there then Joe ? WMDs ? ;D
Ask George Tenent.
oh shit ;D
Lush Gumjob and Faux news have performed a complete lobotomy on you, havent they Joe ?
I completely understand and agree........but didn't we go there with the original intention to steal it.
Hilary was a senator for quite a while. Served on important committees.
What is Huck's experience? Governor?
What is Thompson's experience? Senator 30 years ago and an actor?
HIlary would turn any country into a crater for fvcking with us. This isn't 1993 anymore. This is 2009. You should watch the debates. Hilary is all about war now.
Prove to me that we over there for the sole purpose of "stealing" oil and I'll concede.
That fact is...... If the U.S. wanted to "steal" oil it would be the easiest thing for us to do. We could take control of any oil producing country in days. Thefore, it must be more than stealling oil. How about long term economic benefit's for the world, especially the Western world.\
Hilary was a senator for quite a while. Served on important committees.
What is Huck's experience? Governor?
What is Thompson's experience? Senator 30 years ago and an actor?
HIlary would turn any country into a crater for fvcking with us. This isn't 1993 anymore. This is 2009. You should watch the debates. Hilary is all about war now.
Nah, you're thinkin' of "Old-Testament God", mister fire and brimstone, not his peace-loving hippy son!god hates teh hippies. >:(
mccain wil be the 44t president of the united states ,,he will be a president for 8 years and he will bring the war to an ened while seeing in his life time the first mission to mars at the end of his second term
you going to have good future usa ,,you really going to have a good future because you are smart ,,i thought you were already half dead but you proved me wrong
That sounds like a fairytale.
Empires rise, and fall. That's how it was, and always will be.
Read the book. BTW, Rush is usually right, same with Mark Levine.........awesome :Doh brother ::)
I think in a couple of decades once the reality of what's really going on now becomes more common knowledge, he'll be judged better by history than he has been by his contemporaries.
for most practical people in the MIDDLE.
Remember there are far right, and far left people.
The far left 10% believe that we should all live happily together, avoid conflict, and never take things from others. Fine and dandy, but unrealistic.
The far 10% right believe pre-emptive for wars for oil/bases are immoral, so they have to be lied to. The WMD story is for them. Guys here that STILL say we invaded to spread democracy, not oil. Cause they know they put Bush into office, and his invading for oil means tens of thousands of iraqis have died because of their vote. They are weak, and need simple lies to keep their heads up.
I'm saying this is one point of view that many have.
7000 ppl die every day in America. 1/3 from cancer, 1/2 from heart disease, and the others from various causes. In a strictly UTILITARIAN sense (greatest good for all), is 3000 lives worth control over 80% of 50 to 75 $ trillion worth of oil?
Some believe the answer is yes. Do you, matt?
It's because our standard of living is so much higher that the rest of the world's, and has been acheived, in part, by taking advantage of much of the rest of the world. But most of us don't understand that reality until later in life.
So we grow up thinking the way we live is "normal", and grow used to our relative luxuaries (like electricity, running water, medical care, automobiles, 3 meals a day, etc). Then at some point we gain a true understanding the way things work. Then we are faced with a choice: be "moral" and trade our nice comfortable middle-class lifestyle for an African or Asian or Latin American or eastern european type existance, or say "fuck it", accept reality, and fight for what we have.
Actually, in understanding the world we live in, having a Democratic country in the middle of an extremely middle Eastrem run environment (run by extremists and religious fanatics) is not a bad thing. If you live in the U.S. or most Western countries you understand (at least today) that oil is a not only a very improtant requirement to survive but a necessity. If you researched what oil provides besides gasoline you would find an abundance of products that you yourself use and rely on (the weights that you train with are manufacture by the use of oil). This question was posed to me a few years ago.... "If suddenly gasoline was $5.00 a gallon, $10.00, $15.00 a gallon, what would you want your government to do to get you oil and gasoline. The answer. ANYTHING...
So, until new energy sources are developed oil is a necessity. And just for the record, not only Mr. Bush believed that there were WMD in Iraq but so did every other Western country.
The UN inspectors who were on the ground in Iraq didn't think there was WMD ;)
As long as it isn't a lib who gets in, I don't care who's Pres.
Calm down old bear; many said that in 2000 ;D
im all for taking the iraqi's oil, but with such an abundance of oil now in US hands, the gas prices need to come down
No President has the power to drive the country down.
Suppose a dem gets in and decides to close all the bases, give all the oil to china, and say sorry.
Joe, do you REALLY believe this would happen? I mean, it sounds like you love to use words like 'lib' and 'lacifist' - repeating what you heard on Rush this morning - but you seem to not realize that presidents don't have the power to hurt longterm advantages.
Agreed.cheap people worry about the price of gas and cell minutes. oh yeah i seen a birkin bag yesterday for 5,000 dollars
Gas in Holland is $7.40 per gallon.
Cut down on the fucking Starbucks Lattes and SUV's (asshole mobiles), and you won't worry so much about gas, which, by world standards, is pretty darn cheap.
He didn't do shit when the they tried to bring the towars down in 93', he didn't do shit when the USS Cole was hit in 2000, he didn't do shit when OUR Embassys were bombed on his watch, he had Bin Laden more than 10 times and let him go......WTF Rob, you want more?
Bush did more to protect this country than anyother President in recent memory!!!!!!!!!
Rob........Hillary IS Bill. She has no credentials or experiance to be President exept for riding his coattails.
Agreed
cheap people worry about the price of gas and cell minutes. oh yeah i seen a birkin bag yesterday for 5,000 dollars
Bush indirectly murdered 3000 New Yorkers and sent soldiers off to their deaths for the sake of neo-colonialism; he has indirectly killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and has spent the country into oblivion. Now he is borrowing 140 billion USD from the Chinese (more borrowing; by the end of this fiscal year we will owe them 10 trillion USD) so he can 'boost' the economy. A great president.
As it was siad early, history will judge him as a good decision maker.
And, again, please don't blame all of these woes on one person. WE elected him. He works with hundreds of advisors.
And he didn't murder anyone.
Try, if you can, to recall all the folks jumping off the World Trade center.
Mccain = Bush No difference ::). The war in Iraq will never end if Mccain wins. And you will continue to see the same things happening in the states, it will be a sad day in America if Mccain wins.TEAM OBAMA!!
It will be a much sadder day if Obama or Clinton win. The best case would be a Rudy victory with Romney as the VP.
hilary clinton got zero chance to become president of usa ,,reason is she is a very bad person closet thing to demon there is and everything she does is inorder to satisfy a current need inorder to achieve something else,,she might have been able to win despite this but she has one big problem that she wont be able to recover from ,,she is a woman,,and woman in america wont pass,,es[pecially women with no serious record or experience in anything but chasing down the lovers of her husband,,she will never be president since american people when it comes to president ellection will not chose her as in independent and republicans and some democrats will nto vote for her ,,,she will win the nomination of the democrats and will ruin that party for good times to come until 2010 when it will try to recover,,
barak obama has nto chance to do anything becuase ameica is still racist ,,its enough to take a look at this board to undertsan dhow big of a race problem still exisit in america,,inaddition to the fact obama has zero experience and he is operating on the couple million generation nothings of britny spears whores who were born to rap which ruined american youth starting in 1992 with bill clinton terms in office,,obama is riding a wave that will die since america is still racist when it comes to south and still have brain when it comes to the old people who actually bote
romney is phony ,,not a chancealthough his money will pull him as much as it can but just too phoney
edwads didnt work it right and its nto his time nor does he have any serious experience to talk about,,he come up secondary phney to only romney although edwards is not phomey but he comes out as one
huckabee cant win because he doesnt have the christians in the sack due to lack of money and simply lack the right horse,,huckabe maybe become a vice president in next adminsistration
juliani started too late and maybe vice president in next administration
mccain wil be the 44t president of the united states ,,he will be a president for 8 years and he will bring the war to an ened while seeing in his life time the first mission to mars at the end of his second term
you going to have good future usa ,,you really going to have a good future because you are smart ,,i thought you were already half dead but you proved me wrong
It will be a much sadder day if Obama or Clinton win. The best case would be a Rudy victory with Romney as the VP.
Of course I blame all the neo-cons. Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc.
I didn't elect him; hardly a New Yorker did. Some Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas white trash in a trailer did. I never voted for him. Neo-Cons don't believe debt is a problem but the laws of economics will come to haunt them and the Americans who buy their bullshit.
900 billion USD trade deficit
9 plus trillion USD owed to China
58 trillion USD entitlement debt
The neo-cons stood by and let 9/11 happen to advance their agenda.
One day the bills will come home and you will have to pay them or perhaps your children. I don't live in the US so...
It won't matter who wins so don't worry. Everything will be the same.
It will be a much sadder day if Obama or Clinton win. The best case would be a Rudy victory with Romney as the VP.
True. And, actually, Clinton was very good for the economy, which was anomalous as far as libs go.LOL. No, the economy was very good for Clinton. Some CinC's get a good economic wave, some don't. :-\
hilary clinton got zero chance to become president of usa ,,reason is she is a very bad person closet thing to demon there is and everything she does is inorder to satisfy a current need inorder to achieve something else,,she might have been able to win despite this but she has one big problem that she wont be able to recover from ,,she is a woman,,and woman in america wont pass,,es[pecially women with no serious record or experience in anything but chasing down the lovers of her husband,,she will never be president since american people when it comes to president ellection will not chose her as in independent and republicans and some democrats will nto vote for her ,,,she will win the nomination of the democrats and will ruin that party for good times to come until 2010 when it will try to recover,,
barak obama has nto chance to do anything becuase ameica is still racist ,,its enough to take a look at this board to undertsan dhow big of a race problem still exisit in america,,inaddition to the fact obama has zero experience and he is operating on the couple million generation nothings of britny spears whores who were born to rap which ruined american youth starting in 1992 with bill clinton terms in office,,obama is riding a wave that will die since america is still racist when it comes to south and still have brain when it comes to the old people who actually bote
romney is phony ,,not a chancealthough his money will pull him as much as it can but just too phoney
edwads didnt work it right and its nto his time nor does he have any serious experience to talk about,,he come up secondary phney to only romney although edwards is not phomey but he comes out as one
huckabee cant win because he doesnt have the christians in the sack due to lack of money and simply lack the right horse,,huckabe maybe become a vice president in next adminsistration
juliani started too late and maybe vice president in next administration
mccain wil be the 44t president of the united states ,,he will be a president for 8 years and he will bring the war to an ened while seeing in his life time the first mission to mars at the end of his second term
you going to have good future usa ,,you really going to have a good future because you are smart ,,i thought you were already half dead but you proved me wrong
Actually i think they USD will continue do drop until it's canceled and the AMERO is introduced.
Buy cheap and sell high.
YES END Game I think so too, but Benjamin's will be with us for a long time still.
Got Any you dont want, please PM me. ;)
Last I noticed, the US$ are readily accepted everywhere.
Currencies fluctuate w/ events, the euro was low, now high.
Ive seen a Asian currency lose 1/2 value overnight. Over time its fluctuated from 50:1 to 25:1 US$.
The USA has a greater combo of resources, size and potential than all of W. Europe.
The old USSR has a long way to go to even begin to be able to exploit her own potential.
I been all over Europe, the Euro is overvalued IMO. in compare to USA potential every large Euro city combined is a spit in the bucket.
USA is still nowhere near the currency bleeding socialist fantasy utopia of every W Europe country, and you've got all taht trash immigrants. Our illegal Latinos are way preferable to your invasion.
at least the Mexicans work hard and cheap
what in his track record to you see that makes you thing he will invest in science?
It's going to be funny 40 years from now. They will declassify 9/11 and we will see how it really happened but 40 plus years hence no one will care.
he will find usama and get him by the use of spies like it should have been long long ago,,he will also win this war by strength ,,strength and peace are intergral part of leadership that must go together
his own health,,hsi own lindependent approach to things even though many republicans dont like or agree with it they respect him tremendeslousy because he is honest and stick to his decisions that are made in 100% of cases with wizdom and not out of greediness and power control (unllike some of bush the son decision were ,,minority but some)
gh15 has followed john mccain career since the mid 80s and heard the storyis from the 60s and 70s ,,gh15 see john mccain as what jesus is to its belivers when it comes to savior,,
he will finish illegal immigration by building the wall/fence and more importantly having a lot more supervision at border done by military in some form,,
he will let the ones in get their ability to be americans ,,ONLY THE ONES IN THAT ARE NOT CRIMINALS ,,they will have to pay fines but will be able to become americans,,AND THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!
he will find usama and get him by the use of spies like it should have been long long ago,,he will also win this war by strength ,,strength and peace are intergral part of leadership that must go together
iran in his time will never have nuclear bomb,,the iranians are scared shitless from him and in the same time respect him tremendsouly and that is only thing that works in arab world,,you have to respect the other leader ,,,they only lately started to respect bush but with mccain they know there is no messing around from dozens of years in top service to his country,,alot better than governor and a lot more important service than governer of actual leading in combat and in politics
he will bring the dollar back up by taking the goverment out of your ass how?,,,he will stop spendings out of control,,he will start using the right resources america has inaddition to oil and bring it to sucess again,,the result will be better economy especially for middle class america,,he doesnt have special interests like the bush family has,,he is a free shooter an hisenhour like only better,,he is the next best thing america has to offer now days and those things are rare to find now days in america
and lastl,,for trab,,john mccain in his time hormones will get not controlled in america ,,its not that he is against hormones...it is that he is against hormones with out prescriptions smuggled into usa while the law say otherwize,,in his time as with anything he does there will be deeper look into hormones and better understanding of them,,they will slowly in his 8 years will be more and more available ,,human grade ,,with specific new laws for their use yet avaoilable in your local walmart same as bronkaid,,he knows how washington works and he is one of the best candidates for this mission after ron paul which can not and will not become president due to extreme views on many things,,,
john mccain is an independent,,her is mavrik ,,he is free shooter with brain attached to it,,in his time steroids will become available to public under certain circumstances and at the end available for anyone over 18 or 21 that can show driver license and get an hrt supply as in 1 vial per 60 days,,this will eliminate the need for dealers and suppliers and black market,,,the ones who need it for health will use it for health reasons and bodybuilders will use it with more care because they will have legit products that result in gains,,
professional bodybuilding and top amatuer will alwys abuse hormones so it doesnt matter if they are leagal or controlled or uncontrolled ,,they will just have 10 diff driver license or get their buddies to get them 20 vials,,but that would be the case anyway,,its the general picture we talking about here,,the total result will be positive and thats what you look for when you are a person like mccain
you got a new reagan coming up ,,only thing you need to do is watch and witness ,,and hopefully enjoy next 10 years unlike the suffering you had last 10
MCCain is a true Manchurian candidate, he is insane and senile. If his handlers/backers tell him to declare martial law or start a war, he will do it. Hes a very crazy man.
The US needs royalty...If the country is kept "in the family" , then the future is considered rather than only the next 4 years....this country was bought & sold hundreds of years ago..the shit that's shuffled around every 4-8 years does'nt give a damn about the long-term influences on our country..haha..just kidding..it sounds good though, does'nt it.. ;D
You obviously didn't hear about the week long coronation of Queen Nancy Polosi about a year or so ago? It was repulsive!god bless the mexican illegals
You can't understand the puppets without understanding the puppeteers.what's wrong with those 3 clubs?
It's not George Bush who makes the mistakes, or John McCain who says he's going to correct the mistakes. It's the people we never see who have the most influence. Those behind the curtain who are the architects of our destiny, so long as we allow them to control us.
John McCain is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Bohemian Club member AND a Skull and Bones secret society member. That's a LOT of influence!
Our only hope is they're publicly exposed and called out by name and confronted for their crimes against humanity.
...or else the "vision of the UN's founders" will continue to progress.
MCCain is a true Manchurian candidate, he is insane and senile. If his handlers/backers tell him to declare martial law or start a war, he will do it. Hes a very crazy man.Excellent reference. That garden tea party/medical demonstration is still a freaky scene. :o
John McCain is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Bohemian Club member AND a Skull and Bones secret society member. That's a LOT of influence!
Well, that about sums it up!
Then tell me, why does Arnold Schwarzenegger wear the Skull and Bones symbol so ostentatiously? He's also a confirmed member and has been since before he became governor. LOL How do you imagine one attains such a powerful political seat?
Well, that about sums it up!No Figgsy, this is laughably wrong. The Elis/East coast brahmins would never, ever invite Herr Arnold into their fold.
Then tell me, why does Arnold Schwarzenegger wear the Skull and Bones symbol so ostentatiously? He's also a confirmed member and has been since before he became governor. LOL How do you imagine one attains such a powerful political seat?
Next time you come to America gh15, look me up bro, I have a Doc Marten I'd like to put in your mouth. :-*
Dubai is UAE on this map.
Look at its location for managing oil!
Iraq on one side. Afghanistan on the other. And Iran in the middle. You know they're sweating.
(http://www.map-zone.net/img/continent/middle-east/map.gif)
I'll be honest, I don't know anything about the British white supremacist group, but all I know is that when a secret club made up of the social bureaucratic elite meets up in a temple or in a privately owned redwood forest and perform rituals similar to satanic rituals, I start to do some wondering.Relax, Figgsy. Every group has it's rituals. The Masons, the Catholic Church...er, wait. Maybe you're right. :D
We can debate nonstop about what Arnold's buckle means, but the secret meetings, rituals and many of their members are what's confirmed.
Something is totally fucked up here.
(http://www.neaiga.org/PicBohemianGrove1.jpg)
These are the most powerful fucking people on the planet. In my world, it's a reason to be suspicious.
No Figgsy, this is laughably wrong. The Elis/East coast brahmins would never, ever invite Herr Arnold into their fold.
What's that? I googled it and brahman is a hindu prayer.. ?Close. Brahmin is the top level of the social caste system in India. It is also a term that has been appropriated to describe America's upper social class, particulary the Boston/Mass. elite like the Lodges and Cabots.
What's that? I googled it and brahman is a hindu prayer.. ?
Better McCain over Billary or Obama.
McCain is realist. He will exploit Iraq and other nations with resources, while presenting respectable face to the world. What more can you ask for?
....... A country with 50% income tax, welfare for the worthless, and apologist behavior.
All this unless Ron Paul can get it, which he wont.
CJ you are scum. Welfare for the worthless?...was hitler your hero?...exploiting other countries?....
unfortunately this is how the rest of the world see the US. A massive military presence bullying other countries for their own interest under the guise of "human rights"...yet it cant even look after it's own people.
and it's citizens just dont get it.
here's a tip- fix your own back yard, become a global model AND THEN get involved elsewhere...at least itll have some credibility.
news flash for americans at GB...there's plenty better places to live than the US on this planet. Dont believe the Hollywood BS and daily fed rhetoric.
How about a country that provides first class healthcare for free and rehabilitates and provides employment re-entry programs for those less fortunate?...i.e. doesnt let its people down? and yet still provides a social structure that allows success?.
jeese it never ceases to amaze me how insular many americans are..not all mind you..
oh yes.. MELTDOWN...whatever ::)
When a society thinks the only way to ensure it's power is to control others through manipulation, force, war, starvation through blockades etc... then you know that society is doomed.
The way some of you people think when it comes to the events in Iraq is sad, really sad. Your not even able to phathom what ordinary civilians, that means innocent kids for fucks sakes, have to endure over there so you can conintue to drive around in your Hummers and get fat in front of the tube. Why are you guys so afraid? What makes you so insensitive to the plight of others? And I'm not talking about a crackhead on the street, I'm talking about innocent families that lose everything because of war.
Did it ever occur to you guys that with all the bragging that goes on as to how great America is, America can't even find a way to get off the oil but prefers to go into debt so you can fund a war in another country? What does that say about American society? Do any of you even wonder about what kind of positive influence America can make on the world just by solving the oil problem? Instead of going to war killing people over there, living in fear over here, spending money on bombs and troops and going into debt the energy could be focused in a much more productive way.
Untill that day comes no matter how many troops and depleted uranium bombs you guys drop over there, you will always be a bitch to the oil and live in fear of retribution from the same people you are trying to kill.
i dont think its "the idiots on getbig" that are determining anything, the majority of american voters are who you are talking about-and its more about being uninformed/misinformed than anything. They have no idea whats going on, the corporate whore media makes sure the people stay ignorant.
If you have an average IQ and the time, you can have an educated worldview and see how misguided our foreign policy/energy policy is.
i dont think its "the idiots on getbig" that are determining anything, the majority of american voters are who you are talking about-and its more about being uninformed/misinformed than anything. They have no idea whats going on, the corporate whore media makes sure the people stay ignorant.
If you have an average IQ and the time, you can have an educated worldview and see how misguided our foreign policy/energy policy is.
Am I to be under the assumption that most of the "people" in this thread are NOT from America?
Does that make any difference?What country are you from, Australia, doesn't matter? Is your gov, pefect? Yet here you are criticizing another govern, for nopt being perfect, saying that the US gov shouldn't get involved until they take care of their own, But I bet your country is one of the first to jump up and cry for help when a natural disaster hits, or maybe the next time some random guerillas are running through your town. Where ever you are from, chance are the US has been there to take care of you at some point.
A third person's impartial opinion helps us see things more clearly.
What country are you from, Australia, doesn't matter? Is your gov, pefect? Yet here you are criticizing another govern, for nopt being perfect, saying that the US gov shouldn't get involved until they take care of their own, But I bet your country is one of the first to jump up and cry for help when a natural disaster hits, or maybe the next time some random guerillas are running through your town. Where ever you are from, chance are the US has been there to take care of you at some point.
I just find it funny that foreigners are so concerned with American policies, instead of worrying about their own countries policies. hahahaa Hypocrites.
I just find it funny that foreigners are so concerned with American policies, instead of worrying about their own countries policies. hahahaa Hypocrites.
We wouldnt be so concerned if the us did mind its own business jackass.Do you have oil in your 3rd world country, jackass?
You're right, I went off in the direction of who the hell are you and your foreign people to be concerned about American policies? I don't need to rebutt anything, I am one of the people that understands about the future. And do you honestly think the Chinks will ever be able to collect on any of those debts? Maybe the US can send the bill to the third world dumps like yours that we give all the money to.
Where did anyone mention perfection? No one is perfect.
But doing something well and doing something completly stupid makes a HUGE difference. You didn't come up with a logical rebutal to anything mentioned in the last few posts, you went off in another direction.
Again, you're right, foreigners that came to America and worked on American soil, not foreigners that sat at home on their computers and whined about how America is greedy and dominating the world. :'(
By the way genius, America was made on the sweat and hard work of foreigners.
Camel Jockey, I agree with you, my only concern with McCain was his extreme support of Amnesties for illegal immigrant's. What are your thought on that?
AMERICA I REALLY REALLY THINK YOU PEOPLE IN GENERAL HAVE BRAIN DSPITE THE WHORES AND MORONS AMONG YOU ,,,YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING,,
JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,,
AGAIN GOOD JOB AMERICA! YOU ARE MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR YOUR HORMONES TO GET UNCONTROLLED,,YOU TAKING AMERICA INTO THE BEST 8 YEARS IN ITS HISTORY SINCE PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN
NEW TIMES ARE COMING UPON AMERICA,,IT STARTED NOW,,THE WORLD WILL LIKE YOU AGAIN AND WILL TRULY LOOK AT AMERICA AS THE SHINING STAR IT SHOUDL BE,,I AM HAPPY FOR YOU FRIENDS,,YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING
CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA ,,STILL HAVE BRAIN AFTERALL
take your key off caps, and learn to speak english, little bitch. and we dont give a fuck what your underdeveloped, third world trash ass thinks.
Where did anyone mention perfection? No one is perfect.
But doing something well and doing something completly stupid makes a HUGE difference. You didn't come up with a logical rebutal to anything mentioned in the last few posts, you went off in another direction.
Do you think that going into MASSIVE debt, (do you have any idea how much America is debt?) being mislead to go to war, taking American border patrol away from American borders and putting them into Iraq, killing hundreads of thousends of people (90% of which were not Alqaeda), destroying the health of hundreds of thousends more due to the depleted uranium weapons the military drops over there for the past 10 YEARS! and in the end paying more for everything we buy over here is worth it?
By the way genius, America was made on the sweat and hard work of foreigners.
You not living in the US explains almost EVERYTHING about you
Fool, I used to live in the USA. I expatriated for a reason. I don't want to support a regime like this.
And we are happy to have you gone. THANKS for leaving.
Fool, I used to live in the USA. I expatriated for a reason. I don't want to support a regime like this.
Fool, I used to live in the USA. I expatriated for a reason. I don't want to support a regime like this.
Hah. You think China is obligated to continually loan us money? Unlikely that the US can ever pay off the full debt, thus far they manage to pay off the interest. When the USA's bankers decide there is a better course for them than to loan the USA money you won't smile so smugly netizen.
all i wrote was that some gb scum referred to his fellow countrymen as "worthless"...
this is the point.
no one should manage a country with such a belief or allow such a belief to exist by their supporters.
i must admit i am encouraged to see some of the responses here.
i must say that not all americans think this way- as that has been pointed out.
it is still hard to believe that such a "so called" great country has people living on the streets and people cant get basic health care.
all i wrote was that some gb scum referred to his fellow countrymen as "worthless"...
this is the point.
no one should manage a country with such a belief or allow such a belief to exist by their supporters.
i must admit i am encouraged to see some of the responses here.
i must say that not all americans think this way- as that has been pointed out.
it is still hard to believe that such a "so called" great country has people living on the streets and people cant get basic health care.
By the way, there are not, relatively speaking, too many "living on the streets"...did you ever consider many have an aversion to a lifetime of responsibility, like upholding mortages, rents, what not?and how many "millions" are there "living on the street"?
and how many "millions" are there "living on the street"?Hundreds of millions, they're everywhere, tens of thousands at each intersection, washing windows, changing tires, every intersection is like a NASCAR pitstop, it's insane.
Hundreds of millions, they're everywhere, tens of thousands at each intersection, washing windows, changing tires, every intersection is like a NASCAR pitstop, it's insane.
Doc martins were played out in 1998. Stuck it in your mouth for being stuck in the 90sIf you are going to address me, do it after I'm done with your mother.
You're right, I went off in the direction of who the hell are you and your foreign people to be concerned about American policies? I don't need to rebutt anything, I am one of the people that understands about the future. And do you honestly think the Chinks will ever be able to collect on any of those debts? Maybe the US can send the bill to the third world dumps like yours that we give all the money to.
Again, you're right, foreigners that came to America and worked on American soil, not foreigners that sat at home on their computers and whined about how America is greedy and dominating the world. :'(
The US didnt do anything completely stupid, you just dont like it.
Those people may not be alqaeda, but they're still arabs.
I don't know what your level of economic understanding is, but there is such a good thing as GOOD DEBT.
Not that you would have any investments with which you could prove to yourself these theorems.
300 million US popThat had to be one of the most blatantly sarcastic posts ever and you still took it seriously, what's wrong with you?
you say "hundreds of millions"?...c'mon, now......
It's "can't" vs. "won't"
Some can't get a home
Most will and do
You completely ignored the question I poised to you which obviously tells me you have no answer.And what exactly is this question you keep going on about? Do I like the government? No. Do I think they are doing a good job? No. Do I think you are a foreigner who's country has been pwned by the US? Probably.
Typical reaction from someone that is clueless is to ignore the question being asked and go on another completly different tangent. You have no idea what country I'm from, you just made assumptions. Keep living in your ignorant little world chump, when it all comes crashing down on your head you'll finally wake up.
That had to be one of the most blatantly sarcastic posts ever and you still took it seriously, what's wrong with you?
And what exactly is this question you keep going on about? Do I like the government? No. Do I think they are doing a good job? No. Do I think you are a foreigner who's country has been pwned by the US? Probably.
You need to worry less about the US's crooked politicians and focus on your own cuntry. ;)
THAT...is a crock of shit.
I pay close to $10,000 per year for my health care...If I can do it, why can't everyone.
Address this, for a change:
Eliminate:
cigarettes
alcohol
illicit drug use
Junk food
obesity
sedintarianism
all other bad things people do toi eliminate good health, and...
Not only would you eliminate about half the fed health care deficit, you'd have enough left to give everyone a hundred spot...including liiegals...
But you NEVER hear anyone address such topics of self-responsibility.
I don't know what your level of economic understanding is, but there is such a good thing as GOOD DEBT.
Not that you would have any investments with which you could prove to yourself these theorems.
this is why your country is crap. yeah ok let that poor family with a downs syndrome kid fend for itself...let that person who was born without legs sort himself out...let that entire community who cant read organise themselves and it's their own fault they are the way they are...
yeah, people love to live destitute, unemployed and sick and then they get crapped on by people like yourself.
hey, in fact let's make it easy for these poor souls to get hold of guns and ammo...then they can look after themselves and make some cash selling drugs and robbing people..at least they are taking responsibility, right?
a civilised society provides the infrastructure, policies, funding and expertise so a community as a whole raises the bar. The standard of living is based on the lowest level.
If the rest of the world adopted the "dog eat dog" approach and the same socio-economic structure as the US then the US probably wouldnt be the super power it is.
you spend lots of $ on defence because it gives power to rule, and with that comes the need to be able to defend...lotsa $ on other streams of revenue other countries refuse to entertain.
and you pay big $ on health insurance because you havea society that thinks it's their right to take risks even at the expense of others..couple that with a poor social welfare and then you mix in those desperate, willing and able to do what they have to to survive.
oh yeah- that's the life. i couodnt wait to get out of the place -everytime ive been there. i expected something really impressive and was amazed at how poor the facilities were/are and the standard of living of the general populous- even in "affluent" areas.
i think it would do alot of US citizens good if they could travel OS to, say a commonwealth country for comparison. I'd say they'd be very surprised to see how modern, safe and organised they are and although they are there, very little in terms of desperate poverty with a social system that really does provide not only basic requirements but also opportunity.
what really craps me about the US is that everyone expects to be "tipped".. i mean wtf!!?...why cant your employer pay you the correct amount?..so dont give me BS about low taxes and stuff...you end up paying for it by other means and still dont get the services and security and education that even the romans had.
DumbAss, have you ever been to the USA? ???
Because your picture of it is Fuckedup.....
Yes, Ive been all over Europe, and I'd not give a flick of piss off the end of my dick for one your governments, or standard of living.... ;D
Hang tight buddy, the Euro will correct to reality, all currencies go thru ups and downs....
My advice to you is buy US$ with your stinkin' Euros during the upcoming next drops in Dollar value.
It wont go on like this forever.
The USA is SO far ahead of most of Europe's standard of living its a joke.
Where the shit do you live in your box? Please...
Simple jealousy of PPL with a better life, now news make you feel better with your sorryass life in a pathetic socialist dump....
REMEMBER THIS... WHEN OUR USA STANDARD OF LIVING GO DOWN, YOURS DONT GO UP!!!! No No No... ;D
Its not like a see-saw like that - YOURS GET EVEN WORSE!!! ;D
Please wait - all your central banks Will Have to lower exchange rate to survive... ;)
The rumors of the Death of the USA are vastly exaggerated....
Yes the Bush/ Ben Bernankie duo has been a failure, but We're STILL Way better off than your little pathetic
Scaliest Utopian Fantasy pits...
DumbAss, have you ever been to the USA? ???
Because your picture of it is Fuckedup.....
Yes, Ive been all over Europe, and I'd not give a flick of piss off the end of my dick for one your governments, or standard of living.... ;D
Hang tight buddy, the Euro will correct to reality, all currencies go thru ups and downs....
My advice to you is buy US$ with your stinkin' Euros during the upcoming next drops in Dollar value.
It wont go on like this forever.
The USA is SO far ahead of most of Europe's standard of living its a joke.
Where the shit do you live in your box? Please...
Simple jealousy of PPL with a better life, now news make you feel better with your sorryass life in a pathetic socialist dump....
REMEMBER THIS... WHEN OUR USA STANDARD OF LIVING GO DOWN, YOURS DONT GO UP!!!! No No No... ;D
Its not like a see-saw like that - YOURS GET EVEN WORSE!!! ;D
Please wait - all your central banks Will Have to lower exchange rate to survive... ;)
The rumors of the Death of the USA are vastly exaggerated....
Yes the Bush/ Ben Bernankie duo has been a failure, but We're STILL Way better off than your little pathetic
Scaliest Utopian Fantasy pits...
MattT-Ron Paul would.
Obama won't end the war either. He'll scale back the offensives, but the bases are there to stay - any military person will tell you. And we are going to be pumping 80% of their oil out, forever. It's contractually set and the longterm deal exists above our next prez or theirs. And we'll always have men there to protect that oil.
We're permanently there just like the 50k men we have in Korea. They'll still be there in Iraq in 50 years. Obama dislikes the war, but no way is he going to WALK AWAY from control of 40 trillion $ worth of oil.
Hundreds of millions, they're everywhere, tens of thousands at each intersection, washing windows, changing tires, every intersection is like a NASCAR pitstop, it's insane.
Chaos, Your dogs live a higher standard of living than this AntiAmerican Trash we are arguing with... ;D
AND - They allways will.....
Here, fresh for the Imbiciles dancing for joy that "The USA has seen better days".
I got bad news twits... It's gonna hurt YOU a lot more than it gonna hurt me...
This is a Global thing thats hittin USA first.... I told you waht to do..
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-recession-fears-spark-deep/story.aspx?guid=%7BFA34EC4F%2DFFF6%2D4BEE%2DAF28%2DE41F832BF4AC%7D
Its true,,, spout all the shit you want,,, most of the world wishes they lived with as much luxury and convenience. Including W Europe.
Please shut up already, you just bury yourself more and more with statements like this one.
FUck you.
where you at, India? Trapnumbskull going to tell me about the great services and infrastructure and education and health care system in Korea? ::) :'(
Please. The USA has plenty wrong but your pronouncement of death is nuts.
Most of the world is simply jealous of the USA's standard of living...
Face it, losers like you will never get out of your cesspools.
Take a breath before your head explodes.
Since you seem pro Arab and Chinese, you must be a dunecoon or a chink...which is it?
You think the US is the center of the universe? That's why Bush has to beg Arab princes and kings to lower oil prices. Thats why Arabs are buying your banks and want to buy your ports. That's why Bush has a lawn sale and sells hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to the Saudis, who just happen to hate America's guts, (think 9/11). That's why America has to borrow money from communist China to fund the war. Does America even produce anything anymore? Oh, thats right a lot of your jobs left and went to Mexico or China. hahaha
Yeah, the whole world relies on the US. The truth is your bitch ass is owned more and more everyday by Arabs and the Chinese. Get used to it.
Since you seem pro Arab and Chinese, you must be a dunecoon or a chink...which is it?
Throw out some wage and price comparisons from your socialist utopia... ;D
Your so ignorant that you close your mind off to the truth. You'll suffer for it it most of your life.Too embarrassed to reveal it, huh? :-[
Your so ignorant that you close your mind off to the truth. You'll suffer for it it most of your life.Oh yeah, pssst, it's "you're" so ignorant. :)
Oh yeah, pssst, it's "you're" so ignorant. :)::) :P
Norway beats the USA hands down; wealthier, healthier and saner.