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I guess I am a newb. I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've been working with a trainer and did not achieve any real gains over a 6 month period. I started decca 2 weeks ago. My trainer advised taking 1000mg twice a week. The stuff I've read advises 400-800mg once per week. I am also taking 50mg topical testosterone daily. I am noticing gains and for the first time am enjoying the gym. My question is - is the 1000mg 2X week all wrong and harmful? As a side note I have extra cushion around my waist. Will the decca help with that? Is there anything extra I should add? I really appreciate the advise. Thanks.
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I guess I am a newb. I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've been working with a trainer and did not achieve any real gains over a 6 month period. I started decca 2 weeks ago. My trainer advised taking 1000mg twice a week. The stuff I've read advises 400-800mg once per week. I am also taking 50mg topical testosterone daily. I am noticing gains and for the first time am enjoying the gym. My question is - is the 1000mg 2X week all wrong and harmful? As a side note I have extra cushion around my waist. Will the decca help with that? Is there anything extra I should add? I really appreciate the advise. Thanks.
You're kidding, right. :-X
DIV
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Deca shuts down you testes hard!
Deca can also cause something called Deca dick ( impotence :( )
Because of this the average guy takes Test and Deca with more Test than Deca to counter act the Deca dick.( Test makes you horny)
Your dosages for a newb are very high.
The average sane guy takes 400-500mg test 250-400mg deca with test always a 100-150mg more than deca.
Some guys take even less with good results.
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i hope you are joking. if not, yes 1 gram of deca a week and only 250mg test is bad. If you can i would recommend changing it to 500mg test and 200-250mg deca per week. Aside from having a working libido, your gains will be much better
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Fire your trainer immediately or step in front of a bus.
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I guess I am a newb. I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've been working with a trainer and did not achieve any real gains over a 6 month period. I started decca 2 weeks ago. My trainer advised taking 1000mg twice a week. The stuff I've read advises 400-800mg once per week. I am also taking 50mg topical testosterone daily. I am noticing gains and for the first time am enjoying the gym. My question is - is the 1000mg 2X week all wrong and harmful? As a side note I have extra cushion around my waist. Will the decca help with that? Is there anything extra I should add? I really appreciate the advise. Thanks.
BULLSHIT. You need help if this is 4 real.
1000mg of Deca would be 2 1/2cc of 400mg/ml nandrolone..... That's 5cc of that in a week.
You didnt do this.
If you did (with real 100% dosed Deca), you'd have some serious side effects in days.
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Decca...it's Deca. The spell check changes it to Decca, did you know that?
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the cell phone means hes on his phone and posting...oh brother and he popped his cherry....
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the stupid "deca dick" is fkin bullshit i know three people who did Deca only cycles and were fine cut the crap
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the stupid "deca dick" is fkin bullshit i know three people who did Deca only cycles and were fine cut the crap
Ok, UG Gear? Chances are that they were on cheap underdosed Testo labled as Deca taht sell for more than Testo. Hope that helps.
Nandrolone plays hell w/ sexual function in many males at a certian dose.
Some may not, but its not fantasy.
Used much steroid from USA Pharmacy or OTC legal outside the usa?
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the stupid "deca dick" is fkin bullshit i know three people who did Deca only cycles and were fine cut the crap
Really? How much a week?? Everyone that I know that uses real deca, has a hard time sporting wood unless they have about a 2:1 ratio of test to deca. Me personally as well..
Were they using an UG Deca? Never know if that is real or just test :-\
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Ok, UG Gear? Chances are that they were on cheap underdosed Testo labled as Deca taht sell for more than Testo. Hope that helps.
Nandrolone plays hell w/ sexual function in many males at a certian dose.
Some may not, but its not fantasy.
Used much steroid from USA Pharmacy or OTC legal outside the usa?
Ahhh, we think alike trab...you beat me to the punch by a few seconds... ;)
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Ahhh, we think alike trab...you beat me to the punch by a few seconds... ;)
Its just crazy...... AAS got to popular for their own good.
Gullibility and Naivete are the new religion.
I cant imagine the money some devious sorts have made off Crisco.... ::)
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I guess I am a newb. I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've been working with a trainer and did not achieve any real gains over a 6 month period. I started decca 2 weeks ago. My trainer advised taking 1000mg twice a week. The stuff I've read advises 400-800mg once per week. I am also taking 50mg topical testosterone daily. I am noticing gains and for the first time am enjoying the gym. My question is - is the 1000mg 2X week all wrong and harmful? As a side note I have extra cushion around my waist. Will the decca help with that? Is there anything extra I should add? I really appreciate the advise. Thanks.
fp and you already self ruined, nice start.
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Your trainer has it all wrong , you should be shooting 1000mg of nandralone daily to see any real results ;D ::)
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the stupid "deca dick" is fkin bullshit i know three people who did Deca only cycles and were fine cut the crap
Not everyone is susceptible to supression from Deca.
I was though and it's very real.
Of course, it made women obsolete and I was able to focus better.
DIV
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Not everyone is susceptible to supression from Deca.
I was though and it's very real.
Of course, it made women obsolete and I was able to focus better.
DIV
Stupid question probably, but does deca actually affect libido at all or solely the ability to get hard?
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Stupid question probably, but does deca actually affect libido at all or solely the ability to get hard?
Not stupid as i was thinking the same thing ;D
I thought it didnt effect desire only the performance of your little solider to get out of bed and party
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I guess I am a newb. I'm 6'4", 220lbs. I've been working with a trainer and did not achieve any real gains over a 6 month period. I started decca 2 weeks ago. My trainer advised taking 1000mg twice a week. The stuff I've read advises 400-800mg once per week. I am also taking 50mg topical testosterone daily. I am noticing gains and for the first time am enjoying the gym. My question is - is the 1000mg 2X week all wrong and harmful? As a side note I have extra cushion around my waist. Will the decca help with that? Is there anything extra I should add? I really appreciate the advise. Thanks.
LOL
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Stupid question probably, but does deca actually affect libido at all or solely the ability to get hard?
At first increase, then as Nat testo downregs, Limp.
THat is waht a deca only cycle can yeild.
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Stupid question probably, but does deca actually affect libido at all or solely the ability to get hard?
For me it was both.
I didn't even think about sex and women weren't even a distraction at that point.
The problem was, even masturbation became difficult and I was glad that I wasn't in a relationship during the Deca cycle.
It would have been embarrassing.
DIV
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I appreciate those with the constructive criticism. I realize that I got off to a bad start and should have doon more research instead of relying on one person. That is the problem with my trainer he thinks he knows everything. At this point I am unable to locate test prop. Should I abandon the deca or just cut back to a proper dose?
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I appreciate those with the constructive criticism. I realize that I got off to a bad start and should have doon more research instead of relying on one person. That is the problem with my trainer he thinks he knows everything. At this point I am unable to locate test prop. Should I abandon the deca or just cut back to a proper dose?
Holy shit dude, I dont mean to get weird or scare ya, but I hope it was underdosed but steril shit...
I cant imagine 2000mg of Deca (esp a first timer).
Ok, if that stuff is real, you damn well feel it and see some stuff happening in days at that dose...
I would NOT TAKE more regardless. 1. If its real thats a plenty big load of Deca for the next 21 days ;)
2. If its fake or so underdosed that you cant feel it you dont want to risk takin more either.
If you not seeing some zits its fake. You should be gettin a killer pump and be very hungery.
Stray weird hairs popping up in strange new places?
Shit, you should be irrational and have PMS like symptoms off the dose of DECA.
You got a link or a pic of the products?
Because you should damn well have NO DOUBT your juiced to the gills on that dose.
I need testo with Deca rapidly or sex function issue in about 3 weeks. That dose would be almost immediate
problems for myself IMO.
You couldnt pay me to take 2000mg of Deca in a week.
Myself, I'd keep on some low dose testo at least.
I suspect bunk product or you'd have major sides.
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I appreciate those with the constructive criticism. I realize that I got off to a bad start and should have doon more research instead of relying on one person. That is the problem with my trainer he thinks he knows everything. At this point I am unable to locate test prop. Should I abandon the deca or just cut back to a proper dose?
slade,
If you're on 2G Deca per week, you'd notice major gains and major sides.
I can't even imagine what that would do.
You sure it's real?
What is the brand?
Obviously, I'd say cutback until you can locate some Testosterone of the injectible variety.
Forget the creams, they're a waste.
DIV
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Is he talking 100mg 2x ew?
2 Gr is outlandish for anyone.
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Is he talking 100mg 2x ew?
2 Gr is outlandish for anyone.
He said 2G's ew, trab.
That's what the man said.
I'm skeptical, but who the fuck knows? ???
DIV
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I only use 600mg test/400mg deca when I run it and I make good gains..averaging about 15lbs per 12weeker and this next one is looking like i'll put on about 20lbs (there is some water there..duh) but deca shuts you down BAD. I'm not talking liek a few weeks..it will take almost the lenght of your cycle to RECOVER. It took me about 6 weeks to come back off it for good.
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I cant imagin takin 2gr of Deca....
Shit, its 2.5cc X 2 shots at 400mg/ml!
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I cant imagin takin 2gr of Deca....
Shit, its 2.5cc X 2 shots at 400mg/ml!
That's alot of oil to be injecting in the body.
I love being on Deca, but I can't stand the decadick supression.
I feel like women are only a distraction when I'm on Deca, which is good for training, but bad for a social life.
DIV
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Man I am pretty sure this post was a joke, but if it wasn't, then a few things need to be clarified. deca should always be approximatley half of your test. Example 800mg test, 400mg deca; 1000mg test, 500mg deca. 2000mg of test would mess you up so badly, even if it were for just a little while you would grow female breast, you will shut your production of test down for a long time and you may never get hard on again, who ever told you that should be shot.
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Man I am pretty sure this post was a joke, but if it wasn't, then a few things need to be clarified. deca should always be approximatley half of your test. Example 800mg test, 400mg deca; 1000mg test, 500mg deca. 2000mg of test would mess you up so badly, even if it were for just a little while you would grow female breast, you will shut your production of test down for a long time and you may never get hard on again, who ever told you that should be shot.
Well, your not quite right. 2000 is a buttload of test. But some guys can handle it.
Its pointless for most, but a experienced user thats been up to 1000+ before can whack 2 for a short front load.
DONT DO THIS.
But , w/ even just Nolva gyno can be avoided w/ that much test.
I'd never take taht much Deca, there are guys out there that have.
It would play hell with a 1st timer no doubt. H'e likely have a lot of bad sides.
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Well, your not quite right. 2000 is a buttload of test. But some guys can handle it.
Its pointless for most, but a experienced user thats been up to 1000+ before can whack 2 for a short front load.
DONT DO THIS.
But , w/ even just Nolva gyno can be avoided w/ that much test.
I'd never take taht much Deca, there are guys out there that have.
It would play hell with a 1st timer no doubt. H'e likely have a lot of bad sides.
Actually I,ve been on 2000 mg of test before, but as you know that deca is a little more potent then just straight test and more side effects. Anybody that knows anything about gear will tell you that 2000mg of deca is pointless unless your on 3500-4000mg of test (ratio should be 2-1) and that would be one crazy cycle and believe me no amount of nolva would stop the estorgen from developing.
2000 no big deal, I agree.
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just out of curiousity could you just run like a 12 week cycle of deca just with some nolva for gyno...and have like a taper up and taper down effect??im just wondering..
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just out of curiousity could you just run like a 12 week cycle of deca just with some nolva for gyno...and have like a taper up and taper down effect??im just wondering..
or maybe some deca along with sust and start off hard on the deca and then taper down at the end of like week 9 then for the last three weeks just run the sust and nolva then continue the nolva for another 10-12 weeks for pct?? does this make any sense or am i just an idiot...remember i have never run any gear but someday i prob will....i was just being curious...
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just out of curiousity could you just run like a 12 week cycle of deca just with some nolva for gyno...and have like a taper up and taper down effect??im just wondering..
Get Williams Anabolics book and read it severl times.
Asking this question makes it clear you totally clueless. Deca cant flip to estrogen.
Dont trust the net for much steroid advice. Plenty bad here.
My Advice - READ.
YOu need consider a LOT more before you use steroid for BBing than just read the "Newbie Thread" here.
I get a LOT of PMs from dudes w/ problems, esp related to questionable juice.
Even asking this kind of question tell me you should spend at least a year looking at solid info OFF THE INTERNET.
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yea i totally agree with you and i have read the newbie thread actually i was really just wondering if that was a possibility....and trust me i am know where near ready to even consider using AAS for alot of reasons....but thanks for the response
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yea i totally agree with you and i have read the newbie thread actually i was really just wondering if that was a possibility....and trust me i am know where near ready to even consider using AAS for alot of reasons....but thanks for the response
Dont just go off what you read here, and learn the risks and all about the feedback loop and shutdown.
If there is no benefit being derived, there is no reason to be on.
Nonstop use is pointless and unnecessary for young healthy guy.
If you dont learn about the way this stuff affects the hormonal system, stopping is unpleasant.
Its not that complicated, but its also not as simple as just read taht thread.
I'd recomend a well rounded reading collection.
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deca dick is real. first and last time i did deca at 400mg and test 750 i still got hit with it hard..... it is not fun wanting to have sex and not being able to get it up no matter how hard you try....
i suggest you switch to 500 to 750mg test and drop the deca down to around 400, also if you have a sex life right now i suggest you go to a research site and grab you some cabergoline and take that at .5 mg twice a week, and also grab some cialis just incase lol....... nothing worse then lookin good for the ladys then not being able to perform ;)
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and im not saying everyone gets it, some dont, but why take that chance if you are active with the females? They will remember it and they do talk about it to there freinds, luckily i had some cialis on hand just incase b/c i had read about it and was able to fix the situation later that day and keep my girl happy ;)
im an eq guy for life now