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Title: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 21, 2008, 06:38:32 PM
On Larry Pepe's PEP TALK show, Heath admits....

1 month form the Ironman - Phil heath weighs 247 today.

He says a lot tighter than the video we've all seen.

Last year at this time, he was 230-232 at one month out.

Phil Heath is 15 to 17 pounds bigger than he was last year. 

The Ironman and Arnold Classic are his.  Fifteen pounds bigger than last year.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 06:46:53 PM
He wont beat Dex
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: benz on January 21, 2008, 06:49:07 PM
He wont beat Dex

And he wont recover  ;D
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 06:56:47 PM
Phil was lucky to weigh 212 last year. If (and I think he will) comes in 15 to 20 pounds heavier, Dexter will not have too much of a chance to beat him.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: BIG DUB on January 21, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
That was some opportunistic shit he said about Vic..  Like picking at the carcass..
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 21, 2008, 07:21:11 PM
That was some opportunistic shit he said about Vic..  Like picking at the carcass..

with age will come ability not to be completely honest.

But you know every man at that show is happy they just moved up one spot with Vic out.  anyone who says "i'm mad he's not there, because I want to beat the best" is lying. 

120k for winner, 60k for second place.  That's a lot of reasons to send Vic a get well card and do a little dance.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Dex is 230 @ 5'5
Phil is gonna be about 230 @ 5'10

Not to mention Dex's back is much better. Dex's condition is legendary, Phil's is not.

(http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/media/dexter-jackson/dexter-titans-dvd.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men89.jpg)
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: BIG DUB on January 21, 2008, 07:50:25 PM
with age will come ability not to be completely honest.

But you know every man at that show is happy they just moved up one spot with Vic out.  anyone who says "i'm mad he's not there, because I want to beat the best" is lying. 

120k for winner, 60k for second place.  That's a lot of reasons to send Vic a get well card and do a little dance.

I agree. It would have been better if he had said something like, "it changes my game plan for the show" or something like that..
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bluto on January 21, 2008, 07:52:31 PM
the blade baby
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 08:02:23 PM
Dex is 230 @ 5'5
Phil is gonna be about 230 @ 5'10

Not to mention Dex's back is much better. Dex's condition is legendary, Phil's is not.

(http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/media/dexter-jackson/dexter-titans-dvd.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men89.jpg)

Dexter is not 230.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bluto on January 21, 2008, 08:03:11 PM
who deserves it more we need to found out who deserves it more
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 21, 2008, 08:05:40 PM
Dex hasn't made any improvements in 4 years...He can't keep bringing the same package and expect to win the whole thing...Its didn't work for Shawn Ray and it won't work for dex...And looking at Dex's offseason pictures, it looks like age is starting to effect that Legendary conditioning...Everyone knows Dex is lazy...Lets see how long he can keep his conditioning when its obvious he is actually getting fat in the offseason...
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bluto on January 21, 2008, 08:07:41 PM
dexter jackson is quite the bodybuilder as we can see from photos videos and so on and i challenge anyone to say different with that being said, ive said what i came here to say on this particular subject and wish you best of luck in this thread.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: bigbobs on January 21, 2008, 08:16:05 PM
Dex is 230 @ 5'5
Phil is gonna be about 230 @ 5'10

Not to mention Dex's back is much better. Dex's condition is legendary, Phil's is not.

(http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/media/dexter-jackson/dexter-titans-dvd.jpg)


;) 
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Matt C on January 21, 2008, 08:22:19 PM
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Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Deicide on January 21, 2008, 08:37:01 PM
What about Dennis Wolf? Is he competing in the Arnold?
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 21, 2008, 08:53:03 PM
Ninja turtle will not win the Arnold.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: On_Swole on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 PM
Dexter is not 230.
He was actually heavier than that @ '05 Arnold and '06 Olympia.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Thealmightyronald on January 21, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
Dex's forearms are looking big in that relaxed shot.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Matt C on January 21, 2008, 09:20:18 PM
He claimed he was actually heavier than that @ '05 Arnold and '06 Olympia.

Fixed.  ;)

Unless you know something I don't know.  ???
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 09:33:49 PM
He was actually heavier than that @ '05 Arnold and '06 Olympia.

Joe told me that he weighed 214 at the 06 AC.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: LATS on January 21, 2008, 10:26:57 PM
 disgusted is right.. dexter has never competed over 220-222.. the biggest he competed was the 07 olympia and he was a shade over 220.. heck, the biggest dex has ever admitted too was 225 at contest and he was exaggerating a bit.. where did you guys get he weighed over 230 pound contest shape?.. dexter himself , before the 07 olympia, said he was 237 pounds when he started the diet.. that is off season..
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Matt C on January 21, 2008, 10:29:34 PM
Dexter is 5'3 and 235.

Phil is 5'10 and 235.

I think that answers the question!
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: AVBG on January 21, 2008, 10:35:20 PM
Dexter would barely hit 235 during the middle of his offseason. He wouldn't be any higher than 215 in contest condition.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: On_Swole on January 21, 2008, 10:53:16 PM
Fixed.  ;)

Unless you know something I don't know.  ???

Yes, I do.

Joe told me that he weighed 214 at the 06 AC.

I never mentioned the '06 AC.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 11:04:03 PM
Yes, I do.

I never mentioned the '06 AC.

Never said you did and I never mentioned the other shows that you mentioned.  ;)
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: donrhummy on January 21, 2008, 11:07:01 PM
Dex is 230 @ 5'5
Phil is gonna be about 230 @ 5'10

Not to mention Dex's back is much better. Dex's condition is legendary, Phil's is not.

Dexter peaked in 2003 (and looked amazing that year) and has gone backwards since. His condition's gotten worse, his gut has expanded and his size is down a little too.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: LATS on January 21, 2008, 11:11:09 PM
 wow.. every one seems to know dexters weight and height ect  ::).. dexter is a shade over 5'6.. and like i said before, never over 220-22 contest shape.. if dexter ever comes in at his 5'6 and weights 235, it will be lights out for everyone .. but, he eats liek a bird and that will never happen..
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 11:13:17 PM
wow.. every one seems to know dexters weight and height ect  ::).. dexter is a shade over 5'6.. and like i said before, never over 220-22 contest shape.. if dexter ever comes in at his 5'6 and weights 235, it will be lights out for everyone .. but, he eats liek a bird and that will never happen..

I agree on that one. Dexter at 235 would be freaky, BUT he's naturally bout 165 and is maxed out on size. I give him props for the amount of size he actually has achieved.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 11:14:07 PM
We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?  ;)

The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 11:19:27 PM
We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?  ;)

The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.

Fars I know Heath weighed about 212 last year at the AC. I for one don't understand why all the hype and exaggeration about their weight. Only thing that matters is conditioning the day of the show. In fact, I think that it is even more impressive that Dexter and Heath can look like they do at such at relatively light weight, far more impressive than if they claim 230 or more. $50 bucks says Heath beats Dexter. You up for that?
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: bigbobs on January 21, 2008, 11:36:55 PM
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Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 21, 2008, 11:49:56 PM
Phil was lucky to weigh 212 last year. If (and I think he will) comes in 15 to 20 pounds heavier, Dexter will not have too much of a chance to beat him.
Do you think Jim that he managed to balance his phisique a bit or just accentuated or even maintained those dicrepancies ( arm-delt-quads too big for chest-back-hams ) ?
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Disgusted on January 22, 2008, 12:08:08 AM
Do you think Jim that he managed to balance his phisique a bit or just accentuated or even maintained those dicrepancies ( arm-delt-quads too big for chest-back-hams ) ?

His arms and delts are always going to be his strong points, but once he brings up his weak points to where they can stand alone then he will be OK. So, it's not so much that his arms and delts are too big for his weak points, it's that his weak points need to be brought up to a certain standard. That make sense?  ;D
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 22, 2008, 12:21:47 AM
disgusted is right.. dexter has never competed over 220-222.. the biggest he competed was the 07 olympia and he was a shade over 220.. heck, the biggest dex has ever admitted too was 225 at contest and he was exaggerating a bit.. where did you guys get he weighed over 230 pound contest shape?.. dexter himself , before the 07 olympia, said he was 237 pounds when he started the diet.. that is off season..
...but how much does he look like he weighs..?
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: m8 on January 22, 2008, 01:41:56 AM
Matt Canning has 479 "friends" on Facebook :o
I wish I had that many.

Can I be your friend on Facebook, Matt?  >:(
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: KillerMonk on January 22, 2008, 02:05:59 AM
Heath with all the Hype edges Dexter out by a few points,I hope its close
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 22, 2008, 03:32:04 AM
Dexter is 5'3 and 235.

I don't think Dex has ever been 235 in his life.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 22, 2008, 03:33:34 AM
Fars I know Heath weighed about 212 last year at the AC. I for one don't understand why all the hype and exaggeration about their weight. Only thing that matters is conditioning the day of the show. In fact, I think that it is even more impressive that Dexter and Heath can look like they do at such at relatively light weight, far more impressive than if they claim 230 or more. $50 bucks says Heath beats Dexter. You up for that?

Jim, you want to do any wagering on the Ironman?

There's one competitor I am betting will finish out of the top 5... you game? ;)
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 22, 2008, 03:48:09 AM
His arms and delts are always going to be his strong points, but once he brings up his weak points to where they can stand alone then he will be OK. So, it's not so much that his arms and delts are too big for his weak points, it's that his weak points need to be brought up to a certain standard. That make sense?  ;D
yeah Jim I get u . He needs to balance his phisique and WHEN he will be complete,  he'll give that illusion everyone is chasing...
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: busyB on January 22, 2008, 09:51:02 AM
We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?  ;)
The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.

I can attest I saw Phil step on a scale at Golds Gym when he was in Phoenix last October. Saw with my own eyes, 267 lbs and lean!

Dex was here last July for a guest posing gig and he claimed he weighed 230 lbs. at that time. Not disputing it, just that these guys or all bodybuilders for that matter can add 5-10 imaginary pounds.

Ironman, I think, weighs the contestants so will be solved in a couple weeks what Phil comes in at.

Proven at the AC or not, Dex had to win for the first time, why can't Phil? Like the great Chris Berman always says, "that is why they play the game"...all this is a mute point until we see them side by side and not in a post on the web!
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: LATS on January 22, 2008, 10:02:35 AM
 heath has great delts and arms.. kinda levronesque in a way.. the problem he has is that he is very narrow through the shoulder(clavicals).. other than that, if he can get his chest and back up to standards he will do great.. but, he will have to add considerable size to be competitive through his chest and back.. he will win the ironman.. he really only has freeman to worry about.. but, holding that size until the asc will be tough..
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bobby on January 22, 2008, 11:25:57 AM
Matt Canning has 479 "friends" on Facebook :o
I wish I had that many.

Can I be your friend on Facebook, Matt?  >:(

facebook is gay, cool ppl use myspace
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bobby on January 22, 2008, 11:28:36 AM
Phil and Dex = all arms
Wolf = all torso

torso > arms

wolf will win...even tough he's not competing ;D
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bear on January 22, 2008, 12:24:14 PM
Phil and Dex = all arms
Wolf = all torso

torso > arms

wolf will win...even tough he's not competing ;D

Wolf's chest and lower back are two of his three weekest points, so unless his huge delts are what you are calling a torso (?) then what you said is balls.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: gymguy on January 22, 2008, 01:33:49 PM
Dex always looks great. He's one of the most consistent. However....If Phil can come in around 245lbs, he will shock and awe and win it.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 22, 2008, 01:35:32 PM
He wont beat Dex
yes he will, he'll beat Dex, Toney, Silvio, Gustavo and everyone else at either the Ironman or Arnold, the only guyw ho had a chance against Heath is Victor and he's out.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 22, 2008, 02:27:01 PM
I like this shit! Where is the second movie of Phil Heath, fucking flexonline allways late...I'm for sure they have a ton of pics from the latest photo shot but don't release them, BASTARDS!!!
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Bobby on January 22, 2008, 02:40:30 PM
Wolf's chest and lower back are two of his three weekest points, so unless his huge delts are what you are calling a torso (?) then what you said is balls.

By torso i mean...
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q3445_HGDTZOFGQQ.jpg)


weak back?
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q3486_BHBHQGDSBM.jpg)

weak chest? maybe not his best part, but weak?
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q3498_DSMJLLZNPR.jpg)
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Lift Studios on January 22, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
I like this shit! Where is the second movie of Phil Heath, fucking flexonline allways late...I'm for sure they have a ton of pics from the latest photo shot but don't release them, BASTARDS!!!
Relax JC. We filmed the second video today. Heath trained back 25 days out from the IRONMAN. Always late? No one else is putting out video or pics. I didn't know there was a deadline.

Where are the other guys photos or videos? We've seen pics of Silvio, Gustavo, King and Moe. No vids and no other pics. Let me guess everyone will  show up and shock us all.  ;)

Yes - been taking progress photos for an upcoming contest prep article on Phil.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: LATS on January 22, 2008, 09:18:37 PM
  take it as a compliment issac  ;) . people want to see the work.. it is a very exciting time in bodybuilding and i thank you for taking the time to do it.. ;D
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2008, 11:53:24 PM
Relax JC. We filmed the second video today. Heath trained back 25 days out from the IRONMAN. Always late? No one else is putting out video or pics. I didn't know there was a deadline.

Where are the other guys photos or videos? We've seen pics of Silvio, Gustavo, King and Moe. No vids and no other pics. Let me guess everyone will  show up and shock us all.  ;)

Yes - been taking progress photos for an upcoming contest prep article on Phil.

Congrats for being the bb.com photographer of the year.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2008, 04:24:57 AM
very cool of phil to honestly answer Qs about his weight. 

I don't see how dex will look anything but small next to him.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Lift Studios on January 23, 2008, 05:36:04 AM
I don't see how dex will look anything but small next to him.
Dex is no joke. Anyone who's won the Arnold and consistent top 5 Olympian is a threat to any contest he enters, especially the Arnold.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Hedgehog on January 23, 2008, 05:40:37 AM
Dex is no joke. Anyone who's won the Arnold and consistent top 5 Olympian is a threat to any contest he enters, especially the Arnold.

You're absolutely right.
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Luv_2build on January 24, 2008, 10:58:21 AM
per his website, he is not 5'3" or 230 competition www.dexterjacksonshredde d.com/main.html
Title: Re: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year!
Post by: Livewire on January 24, 2008, 11:47:06 AM
You're absolutely right.

i bet dex laughs his ass off about this turtle stuff