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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: chris_mason on January 21, 2008, 08:41:25 PM
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AtLarge Nutrition sponsored athlete BIG Donnie Thompson broke the all-time powerlifting total record with an incredible 2850 lbs at last weekend Lexen Extreme Columbus Pro-Am!
His lifts:
1155 squat
900 bench
795 deadlift
(http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/sponsors/donnie8large.jpg)
Donnie is on the left.
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AtLarge Nutrition sponsored athlete BIG Donnie Thompson broke the all-time powerlifting total record with an incredible 2850 lbs at last weekend Lexen Extreme Columbus Pro-Am!
His lifts:
1155 squat
900 bench
795 deadlift
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193417.0;attach=224789;image)
Donnie is on the left.
Picture doesn't work.
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Damn impressive.
One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
Anyways, congrats to him.
Picture works fine for me. ::)
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Picture doesn't work for me:
http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/sponsors/donnie8large.jpg
Fantastic total though. I wonder how much higher that total will get?
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Mason,
What % of his success do you attribute to your products, and what % to the drugs?
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Damn impressive.
One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
Anyways, congrats to him.
Picture works fine for me. ::)
He has pulled a lot more than that. I think he was fried from the squat and bench. He didn't even take his third attempt on the deadlift.
Chris
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He has pulled a lot more than that. I think he was fried from the squat and bench. He didn't even take his third attempt on the deadlift.
Chris
Who has the highest total on lifts when performed individually?
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Mason,
What % of his success do you attribute to your products, and what % to the drugs?
Donnie is a beast of a man. He was a beast prior to ever using our products. He loves MAXIMUS and uses it regularly. I would like to think it has helped him, but what extent I have no idea. I can just tell you he thinks it is important to consume regularly.
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He has pulled a lot more than that. I think he was fried from the squat and bench. He didn't even take his third attempt on the deadlift.
Chris
AHHH, makes sense...wonder what he could do if he was fresh for every event?
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Who has the highest total on lifts when performed individually?
I have no idea, as that would not be a "total".
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Donnie is a beast of a man. He was a beast prior to ever using our products. He loves MAXIMUS and uses it regularly. I would like to think it has helped him, but what extent I have no idea. I can just tell you he thinks it is important to consume regularly.
Do you earn more money owning AtLarge than you did as a used car salesman?
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If you want to read more about Donnie you can do so with this interview:
http://www.atlargenutrition.com/donniethompson_interview.php
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Do you earn more money owning AtLarge than you did as a used car salesman?
Yes.
Lol, I am in your head, aren't I?
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I have no idea, as that would not be a "total".
Certainly whoever possesses this "total" must boast about it though?
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Damn impressive.
One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
Because you get much more support out of squat suits and bench shirts than deadlift suits.
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Because you get much more support out of squat suits and bench shirts than deadlift suits.
Kind of what I was thinking, but Chris does makes sense, Donnie didn't even try a third attempt at the deadlift.....
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Kind of what I was thinking, but Chris does makes sense, Donnie didn't even try a third attempt at the deadlift.....
Doesn't matter, his third attempt would have still been lower than his squat or bench
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One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
As Chris says, it could be he was "fried" from his other two lifts. Or, most likely, it's the miracle of the squat suit....
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for most big lifters..espeically at that size..the squat goes up and the dead gets hindered but I'm not sure why. ALOT of pepole say that. AND you get a shitload more out of a squat suit.. 300lbs almost with briefs, etc where as the best deadlifting suit out there gives you maybe 50lbs.
INCREDIBLE TOTAL!
I can't wait to see someone smoke 3k! I think andy bolton will do it before anyone else.
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for most big lifters..espeically at that size..the squat goes up and the dead gets hindered but I'm not sure why. ALOT of pepole say that. AND you get a shitload more out of a squat suit.. 300lbs almost with briefs, etc where as the best deadlifting suit out there gives you maybe 50lbs.
INCREDIBLE TOTAL!
I can't wait to see someone smoke 3k! I think andy bolton will do it before anyone else.
Squat suits are the most likely culprit. Also it could be an issue of body mechanics: some people are built better for deadlifting, others not so well. Ditto with benching and to some extent with squatting (i.e. disproportionately long legs are gonna be a pain in the ass for squatting no matter how you cut it)
I'd be curious to know what kind of suit DT was wearing and what the depth on the squat was. Not taking anything away from it because even to put that much on your shoulders, even in a monolift, is a feat in itself.
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Yes.
Lol, I am in your head, aren't I?
Not at all. You are a pretty cool and honest guy earning a good living by building your own company after years of success in sales. That's very respectable!
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AtLarge Nutrition sponsored athlete BIG Donnie Thompson broke the all-time powerlifting total record with an incredible 2850 lbs at last weekend Lexen Extreme Columbus Pro-Am!
His lifts:
1155 squat
900 bench
795 deadlift
How was the depth on the squat?
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Not at all. You are a pretty cool and honest guy earning a good living by building your own company after years of success in sales. That's very respectable!
Yes it is. In Chris's shoes, the only thing I would do differently is work with BB.com. His products received accolades in Men's Health magazine for best formula!!!
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Dam that is very impreasive.
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Yes it is. In Chris's shoes, the only thing I would do differently is work with BB.com. His products received accolades in Men's Health magazine for best formula!!!
The only problem I have with Mason is that he's probably the biggest kiss ass powerlifting has ever seen.
The typical response from Mason after a squat or benchpress is "Great lift". It could be a two inch squat by Mule Miller, it's still a great lift in Mason's world. ;D
But he's a very strong guy, and would do very well in deadlift competitions.
And he got into the blended protein stuff way back.
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fucking insane ... that kind of weight in those lifts blows my mind
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Donnie is a beast of a man. He was a beast prior to ever using our products. He loves MAXIMUS and uses it regularly. I would like to think it has helped him, but what extent I have no idea. I can just tell you he thinks it is important to consume regularly.
Chris..u are a great guy and a bussiness man . I respect that. What I don't understand is why you mention Donnies strenghth and lifts as if your poowders had anything to do with them other than getting the ocasional shake of protein . Donnies strength is a result 99.99 % of steroids , hormones , other stuf, lots of hard work , and excellent catapulting lifting gear that make u lift things without spewing your bowels on the floor. The shakes contribute for 0.0000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 00001 of his succes....I do believe u have excellent products though and would love to distribute them in romania if u give me some free samples to test them first ( Mike wolfe recommended ) but on the GETBIG forum....lets keep it REAL . Keep up the good work , I admire what u do , but donnie is just a sponsored athlete . The best powerlifter at this moment I belive. ;)
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Incredible :o
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Chris..u are a great guy and a bussiness man . I respect that. What I don't understand is why you mention Donnies strenghth and lifts as if your poowders had anything to do with them other than getting the ocasional shake of protein . Donnies strength is a result 99.99 % of steroids , hormones , other stuf, lots of hard work , and excellent catapulting lifting gear that make u lift things without spewing your bowels on the floor. The shakes contribute for 0.0000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 00001 of his succes....I do believe u have excellent products though and would love to distribute them in romania if u give me some free samples to test them first ( Mike wolfe recommended ) but on the GETBIG forum....lets keep it REAL . Keep up the good work , I admire what u do , but donnie is just a sponsored athlete . The best powerlifter at this moment I belive. ;)
Wow.
A post from Sevastase I actually agree a whole lot with.
Mason making some bullshit claim about how his supplements plays a significant part in making Donnie Thompson a good powerlifter simply isn't true.
Obviously.
There are many extremely impressive powerlifters or other athletes who doesn't use his supplements.
So lets cut the fcuking crap.
The At Large Nutrition products are awesome, and if you gonna buy protein powders or gainers, or MRP's, or creatine, or fat burners, pick a product from ALN. But it's not some kind of magic.
I do not agree with Sevastases opinion that Donnie Thompson is the best powerlifter right now however. I don't think there is one person in the powerlifting community who think so actually.
Brian Siders gets most votes, and I would put at least Ove Lehto, Gillingham and Cardella ahead of Thompson.
And what about Lambrionidis?
However, I doubt you will find anyone claiming Thompson ahead of Siders. Not even Thompson.
Also, I am getting sick and tired of supplement companies, and that includes At Large, having sponsored athletes that will not tell us if they are on the juice or not.
How are we gonna know if their results are from the use of the sponsors supplements, or from "other" supplements?
It's bordering on fraud if you have a guy that uses something other than your supplement line to get so strong or so big.
...or lose 100 lbs while keeping the strength. ;)
All I'm saying is: Keep it real.
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True. I would wish Hedge for the supplement community to find a middle ground between promoting product using an athletes image and making false claims. For example Mike Wolfe told me he used At Large as 90 5 of his daily protein intake at somepoint in his downsizing which confirms that the product is excellent but say it's a " protein " source ....don't make it sound like :" use this protein and lift big...look at this athlete !" ...I believe it would be unfair to mislead the potential customer. Again we circle back to false advertising.
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True. I would wish Hedge for the supplement community to find a middle ground between promoting product using an athletes image and making false claims. For example Mike Wolfe told me he used At Large as 90 5 of his daily protein intake at somepoint in his downsizing which confirms that the product is excellent but say it's a " protein " source ....don't make it sound like :" use this protein and lift big...look at this athlete !" ...I believe it would be unfair to mislead the potential customer. Again we circle back to false advertising.
You speak Idiot very well as a second language.
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I do not agree with Sevastases opinion that Donnie Thompson is the best powerlifter right now however. I don't think there is one person in the powerlifting community who think so actually.
Brian Siders gets most votes, and I would put at least Ove Lehto, Gillingham and Cardella ahead of Thompson.
Siders beat Thompson's raw TOTAL at the 2006 NERB by 30lbs.
Thompson has improved much more than Sider has since then, so I'd say Thompson is the better powerlifter at the moment.
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Unbelieveable lift numbers. I don't follow powerlifting too much so I've never heard of Donnie Thompson but those lifts are amazing - especially the 900 bench. :o
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for most big lifters..espeically at that size..the squat goes up and the dead gets hindered but I'm not sure why. ALOT of pepole say that. AND you get a shitload more out of a squat suit.. 300lbs almost with briefs, etc where as the best deadlifting suit out there gives you maybe 50lbs.
INCREDIBLE TOTAL!
I can't wait to see someone smoke 3k! I think andy bolton will do it before anyone else.
I guess these lifts were equipped then? Excuse my ignorance. Some insane weight!!!
Glenn Ross says he's going to begin powerlifting and aims to lift a raw 1100kg total.....
http://www.irishstrongman.com/aboutus/profile.asp (http://www.irishstrongman.com/aboutus/profile.asp)
He could be in with a shout at 3k if he ever lifts equipped and finds a suit to fit!
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Damn impressive.
One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
Anyways, congrats to him.
Picture works fine for me. ::)
bench "shirts" add 250 + lbs.
squats can be aided by suits and depth may be leniant.
deadlifts can't really be assisted much and are all true power.
years ago the d.l. and squat used to be pretty much the same for any lifter, and the bench was about 70% of either.
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One question, why is his DL low in comparison to his squat? Shouldn't they be closer in #?
ask yourself, why is his bench higher than his deadlift? benching is such a fuccking joke these days....
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Doesn't matter, his third attempt would have still been lower than his squat or bench
You are correct the gear helps a lot more on the squat or bench, but Donnie has squatted over 900 lbs raw and has a pull that is close to 900 lbs at this best.
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The only problem I have with Mason is that he's probably the biggest kiss ass powerlifting has ever seen.
The typical response from Mason after a squat or benchpress is "Great lift". It could be a two inch squat by Mule Miller, it's still a great lift in Mason's world. ;D
But he's a very strong guy, and would do very well in deadlift competitions.
And he got into the blended protein stuff way back.
Hegde, that is because I respect all forms of great strength. Even if a squat of 1100 lbs is a touch above parallel that is still an AMAZING lift.
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Chris..u are a great guy and a bussiness man . I respect that. What I don't understand is why you mention Donnies strenghth and lifts as if your poowders had anything to do with them other than getting the ocasional shake of protein . Donnies strength is a result 99.99 % of steroids , hormones , other stuf, lots of hard work , and excellent catapulting lifting gear that make u lift things without spewing your bowels on the floor. The shakes contribute for 0.0000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 00001 of his succes....I do believe u have excellent products though and would love to distribute them in romania if u give me some free samples to test them first ( Mike wolfe recommended ) but on the GETBIG forum....lets keep it REAL . Keep up the good work , I admire what u do , but donnie is just a sponsored athlete . The best powerlifter at this moment I belive. ;)
Do me a favor and read my response before giving me a hard time. Here is what I said:
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Quote from: Livewire on January 21, 2008, 11:54:39 PM
Mason,
What % of his success do you attribute to your products, and what % to the drugs?
Donnie is a beast of a man. He was a beast prior to ever using our products. He loves MAXIMUS and uses it regularly. I would like to think it has helped him, but what extent I have no idea. I can just tell you he thinks it is important to consume regularly.
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So, I said I WOULD LIKE TO THINK MAXIMUS HELPED HIM, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA TO WHAT EXTENT. How is that a claim about my products? Geez, I could not have said it any more honestly than I did.
Donnie loves the product, he must think it does something. That is all.
Chris
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what ever happened to Garry Frank? that guy was tearing up the PL'ing record book a few years ago and then just disappeared.
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He is still around. I think he has had some injury related concerns.
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He is still around. I think he has had some injury related concerns.
that guy was a machine, one of the few guys with a MASSIVE deadlift AND bench press combo.
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that guy was a machine, one of the few guys with a MASSIVE deadlift AND bench press combo.
Back when he was active, that was the first time I ever heard serious talk about somebody finally hitting the big 3000.
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Siders beat Thompson's raw TOTAL at the 2006 NERB by 30lbs.
Thompson has improved much more than Sider has since then, so I'd say Thompson is the better powerlifter at the moment.
No offence, but WTF?
Did you miss Siders' ass-raping of the IPF world record in benchpress and total recently?
He had a squat redlighted for stability issues, a squat he came up with like a rocket.
And neither his benchpress or his deadlift looked like any max efforts.
Donnie Thompson, very strong guy, yes.
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I have no idea, as that would not be a "total".
I believe I read that Andy Bolton had this "total", and I believe it is an interesting piece of information for powerlifting enthusiasts.
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summary: hedgehog hates multi-ply lifters and shits on them whenever he can, and anyone who congratulates these lifters is an ass-kisser and will be ridiculed.
brian siders is the god of everything despite the fact that had thompson not gotten shitcocked at NERB's with his 875 squat (called on depth my ass ::) ) thompson would have won. and let's not forget thompson's smokeshow 805x3 raw.
for the record, siders' best squat at NERB was 785. say what you will about the monolift, donnie sunk three reps with more than siders' best. period. keep in mind i'm a huge siders' fan and think he's amongst the best of all time, but if you're going to argue that thompson isn't as well, then i dunno what to tell ya.
i swear hedge, you're a smart guy and a strong guy, but when it comes to the multi/single-ply/raw debates you turn into a frothing maniac.
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summary: hedgehog hates multi-ply lifters and shits on them whenever he can, and anyone who congratulates these lifters is an ass-kisser and will be ridiculed.
brian siders is the god of everything despite the fact that had thompson not gotten shitcocked at NERB's with his 875 squat (called on depth my ass ::) ) thompson would have won. and let's not forget thompson's smokeshow 805x3 raw.
for the record, siders' best squat at NERB was 785. say what you will about the monolift, donnie sunk three reps with more than siders' best. period. keep in mind i'm a huge siders' fan and think he's amongst the best of all time, but if you're going to argue that thompson isn't as well, then i dunno what to tell ya.
i swear hedge, you're a smart guy and a strong guy, but when it comes to the multi/single-ply/raw debates you turn into a frothing maniac.
Thx.
I deserved that. :-[ ;D
But I never said Thompson wasn't strong. Strong as a bull. Great clip BTW.
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Hedge OWNED ! 8)
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Its almost impossible to compare single ply guys to raw guys to multiply guys.If I had a vote,Id probably pick Siders as the strongest powerlifter right now.Just for the way he totally dominates weights.If he was allowed to use a real squat bar,he'd squat well over 1000lbs in single ply.He also just pulled 850+ and had a smile on his face at the top.
Donnie is awesome.If you've ever seen him pull,its unreal.He is so large that he cant get his hands wrapped around the bar[flexibility]so he holds onto it with his finger tips and still normally pulls in the 830-840 range.
So,I give the nod to Siders,but there is no way in the world,Cardella is even close to Donnie.Thats just silly.
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Its almost impossible to compare single ply guys to raw guys to multiply guys.If I had a vote,Id probably pick Siders as the strongest powerlifter right now.Just for the way he totally dominates weights.If he was allowed to use a real squat bar,he'd squat well over 1000lbs in single ply.He also just pulled 850+ and had a smile on his face at the top.
Donnie is awesome.If you've ever seen him pull,its unreal.He is so large that he cant get his hands wrapped around the bar[flexibility]so he holds onto it with his finger tips and still normally pulls in the 830-840 range.
So,I give the nod to Siders,but there is no way in the world,Cardella is even close to Donnie.Thats just silly.
Hopefully they will use Eleiko or Leoko bars at his next full meets. The Ivanko bar seems to receive a bit of a bad rap for some reason?
Siders next meet is the benchpress at ASC however.
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They need to use a squat bar like the A.P.F uses.There is zero reason to make a guy like Siders squeeeze under a smaller bar.Give the big guys a chance to squat without killing their delts.It doesnt give any advantage other then being more comfortable to get under and no bar whip.
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What's the point of these massive totals if they're all assisted by lifting suits/shirts that add 200-300lbs? The raw total is impressive on it's own. I'd rather know what the man can do, not the man + lifting suit/shirt.
Someone give me a brief explanation so I can understand the point.
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What's the point of these massive totals if they're all assisted by lifting suits/shirts that add 200-300lbs? The raw total is impressive on it's own. I'd rather know what the man can do, not the man + lifting suit/shirt.
Someone give me a brief explanation so I can understand the point.
Because equipment extends your lifting career and prevents a lot of injury.
If you lift heavy ass hell raw all the time your body will break down sooner or later. Powerlifting equipment has brought people back in the game that had retired from powerlifting due to injuries.
Not only that but equipment adds another level of skill to the sport. Equipment is difficult to master, and it's fun to use (at least I think so).
Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with raw lifting, lots of top guys have either done it or are interested in it. But, equipped powerlifting is here to stay.
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Because equipment extends your lifting career and prevents a lot of injury.
If you lift heavy ass hell raw all the time your body will break down sooner or later. Powerlifting equipment has brought people back in the game that had retired from powerlifting due to injuries.
Not only that but equipment adds another level of skill to the sport. Equipment is difficult to master, and it's fun to use (at least I think so).
Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with raw lifting, lots of top guys have either done it or are interested in it. But, equipped powerlifting is here to stay.
Then why not subtract an amount for each piece of equipment used so the lift total remaining is the actual competitor's total? I know, how are they gonna accurately calculate the added valued of each piece of equipment when each person that wears the equipment is unique or each piece of equipment is unique. What if a competitor uses brand A and another brand B? Eh, it's the same arguement with bb chemicals....ban the chemicals or ban the pl equipment and you're left with something that just doesn't sparkle as much and interest fades.
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Then why not subtract an amount for each piece of equipment used so the lift total remaining is the actual competitor's total? I know, how are they gonna accurately calculate the added valued of each piece of equipment when each person that wears the equipment is unique or each piece of equipment is unique. What if a competitor uses brand A and another brand B? Eh, it's the same arguement with bb chemicals....ban the chemicals or ban the pl equipment and you're left with something that just doesn't sparkle as much and interest fades.
Because some people are more skilled at using equipment than others.
It's true that most people would rather see a 1200 pound equipped squat, than a 800 pound raw squat. They are both amazing feats of strength, but the 1200 pound squat is much more dramatic.
It's the same thing with bodybuilding, I'd much rather see a 300lb pharmaceutical freak of nature like Ruhl, than a 200lb Zane.
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Damn a 900 lb bench is bad ass
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Because some people are more skilled at using equipment than others.
It's true that most people would rather see a 1200 pound equipped squat, than a 800 pound raw squat. They are both amazing feats of strength, but the 1200 pound squat is much more dramatic.
It's the same thing with bodybuilding, I'd much rather see a 300lb pharmaceutical freak of nature like Ruhl, than a 200lb Zane.
I agree with the bb part, but kinda disagree on the pl part.....just an opinion, but I'd rather see what the man can do alone. Now, I'm all for the safety aspect, but if the equipment fails during the mid-lift.....eh, this discussion could go on and on.....
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I agree with the bb part, but kinda disagree on the pl part.....just an opinion, but I'd rather see what the man can do alone. Now, I'm all for the safety aspect, but if the equipment fails during the mid-lift.....eh, this discussion could go on and on.....
Yup, the powerlifting equipment debate is pointless, nobody is going to change their minds.
But go to a RAW meet and then an equipped meet and compare the number of spectators and competitors, the numbers speak for themselves.
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Its almost impossible to compare single ply guys to raw guys to multiply guys.If I had a vote,Id probably pick Siders as the strongest powerlifter right now.Just for the way he totally dominates weights.If he was allowed to use a real squat bar,he'd squat well over 1000lbs in single ply.He also just pulled 850+ and had a smile on his face at the top.
Donnie is awesome.If you've ever seen him pull,its unreal.He is so large that he cant get his hands wrapped around the bar[flexibility]so he holds onto it with his finger tips and still normally pulls in the 830-840 range.
So,I give the nod to Siders,but there is no way in the world,Cardella is even close to Donnie.Thats just silly.
I don't recall asking for your opinion, numbnuts.
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I don't recall asking for your opinion, numbnuts.
LOL.
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who's the fat guy in that squatting clip?
and does it count as raw if you wear a belt?
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who's the fat guy in that squatting clip?
and does it count as raw if you wear a belt?
That's Donnie Thompson.
And yes, it's raw when you lift with a belt.
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Well little man PANDAMONIUM,why don't you do something about it.Since you know so many big time lifters,why don't you send one up my way and see if they can fight your battle for you,since that yellow streak running down the center of your back wont allow you to.You know,I'm not hard to find.Oh,thats right,your such a pussy you cant even post with your real name,what a girl.Typical internet a-hole,big talk no action.Now,hurry up to the kitchen,I think your mommy has some milk and cookies for you on the table.
By the way,this was a thread about strength.Leave the strength talk to those that are strong.You post about things you know,like swallowing loads and ball licking.
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if it's not olympic style squats then it is not impressive to me..slightly breaking parallel shouldn't count
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Then put in new rules.The rule says break and thats it.Frankly,I find olympic lifting to be a HUGE bore,as do most Americans,which explains why almost no one does it or is interested in it.One thing I find funny is that guys will shread powerlifters on here for depth and then praise the bodybuilding squat vids.Are you kidding me?If I have to read one more bodybuilder talk about dropping it in the bucket, only to see him 6 inches high,I think I will puke.
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Well little man PANDAMONIUM,why don't you do something about it.Since you know so many big time lifters,why don't you send one up my way and see if they can fight your battle for you,since that yellow streak running down the center of your back wont allow you to.You know,I'm not hard to find.Oh,thats right,your such a pussy you cant even post with your real name,what a ####.Typical internet a-hole,big talk no action.Now,hurry up to the kitchen,I think your mommy has some milk and cookies for you on the table.
By the way,this was a thread about strength.Leave the strength talk to those that are strong.You post about things you know,like swallowing loads and ball licking.
Panda is far from little Billy.
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But he must be a gutless coward,because ANYONE that gets on the internet,and uses a fake name to insult people is spineless.I find it to be one of the most cowardly acts I can think of.Post with a fake name and rip on someone.You dont even allow your "victim" the fair chance of knowing who you are.If people were made to post with real names you would see a lot less insults because then everyone would know you might run into the guy you insulted and he would know who you are.