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Long read, but pretty interesting. He's in a lot of trouble. Sounds like perjury to me. Not the brightest bulb in elected office.
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/NEWS05/801240414&theme=KILPATRICK082007
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I'm sure he's sorry he got caught. :-\
Kilpatrick apologizes to Detroit, but says: 'I would never quit on you'
January 30, 2008
By BILL McGRAW
Speaking at length about the text-message scandal for the first time publicly Wednesday night, as he held hands with his wife Carlita, Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick apologized repeatedly to residents, supporters, opponents, his wife and his sons for what he called "the embarrassment and disappointment" of the past few days.
"I want to start tonight by saying to the citizens of this great city: I'm sorry," Kilpatrick said in a live television address from his church.
In a nod to the legal peril he faces, Kilpatrick never actually said what he was apologizing for. The closest he came to mentioning lying in court last summer about his affair with then-chief of staff Christine Beatty was a reference to "very grown up things" he has had to discuss with his twin sons in the past week.
Kilpatrick also squarely rejected rumors that he might resign. "I would never quit on you," he declared. "Ever."
Appearing subdued and at times somber in a dramatic moment of recent city history, the mayor focused almost entirely on the impact of the controversy on his family and marriage.
"To all of you who have believed in what we have been doing in this city since 2002, to all of you who have believed in me and my leadership, to all of you who have stuck with me through very difficult times, to all of you who have prayed for me, I'm sorry."
Carlita Kilpatrick talked about the pain of the past few days.
"Like all marriages, ours is not perfect," she said. "But through our commitment to God and each other, my husband and I will get through this. Yes, I am angry, I am hurt, and I am disappointed. But there is no question I love my husband."
The mayor mostly has been out of sight for a week, ever since the Free Press reported that it had obtained nearly 14,000 text messages from Beatty's city-issued pager in 2002-2003. The messages showed that, contrary to Kilpatrick's and Beatty's under-oath testimony in a police whistle-blower trial last summer, they were involved in a sexual affair.
The messages also showed they misled jurors at the trial when they testified they never fired Deputy Police Chief Gary Brown.
Jurors awarded Brown and another ex-cop, Harold Nelthrope, a combined $6.5 million, accepting their argument that Kilpatrick retaliated against them for pursuing an investigation of the mayor's inner circle that might have exposed the love affair.
In October, Kilpatrick abruptly agreed to settle that case, and another involving a third officer, for $8.4 million, rather than appeal. After legal fees, the litigation has cost the city more than $9 million.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy announced last week that her office has opened an investigation.
Kilpatrick did not mention Beatty in the speech. She resigned Monday. And in avoiding talking about the legal and financial details of the situation, the mayor cited Worthy's probe.
"Because there are legal matters pending at this moment, unfortunately I am unable to discuss any of those issues at this time," he said.
"Most of all tonight, I want to make a public apology to my entire family, and specifically to the four people who I love the most in this world," said the mayor, returning to the only theme of the 12-minute speech.
"First, I want to apologize to my sons, Jelani, Jalil and Jonas. For the first time in my life I had to have a conversation with my 12-year-old twin sons about very grown up things. It was without a doubt the hardest conversation that I've ever had in my entire life.
"Finally, and most important, I want to make a public apology to my wife, Carlita, who I fell in love with when I was 19 years old. We decided to build a family together and we did that. Our marriage has not been perfect, but it has been great."
The mayor and his wife spoke to a lone television camera in a mostly empty banquet room in the Greater Emmanuel Institutional Church of God in Christ on the city's west side. There was no audience on hand, and reporters were barred from the speech, which was aired live on Detroit radio and television.
The Kilpatricks talked in detail about their marriage, and the way it has been opened for public view.
"This has been a situation where, yes, it's been embarrassing, yes it's been painful," the mayor said. "But through all of that, through the grace of God, we've also had a feeling of thankfulness and freedom. We have committed to moving forward together to make our marriage better and stronger."
Kilpatrick said that last weekend was the first time since he took office in 2002 that he put everything on hold and focused only on his family. He said he understood Detroit residents have been wanting to hear from him, but he had to attend to his loved ones first.
"I want to thank the people of Detroit for their patience in allowing us that time. We as a family needed to do that," he said.
Kilpatrick said he told his sons that when you make a mistake, "you learn from it, you get up, you dust yourself off, and you keep moving forward."
He added: "Detroit, I am determined that we will keep moving forward. I am determined to continue the tremendous progress we are making in this city."
For a moment, Kilpatrick switched into what seemed like campaign mode, saying Detroit was making progress even in the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression.
"Detroit, together we have managed to do great things," he said. "We have paved more streets than ever. We have built more new houses than ever. We have balanced our budget and wiped out a $300-million deficit.
"We have developed 75 buildings downtown large and small. We have built seven new hotels. We have built three new rec centers in neighborhoods that had not seen rec centers in 20 years. We are building out our riverfront. And we are not stopping now.
"Detroit, please continue to pray for our family, for our city and our continued progress," he said.
"God bless you Detroit. I love you," the mayor said in conclusion. "I'll see you at work tomorrow."
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080130/NEWS01/80130060
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This would have made national news if Kilpatrick was affiliated with the Republican party. lol
DETROIT (AP) - Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick exchanged romantic text messages with a top aide, contradicting their denials in court that they had romantic ties, a newspaper reported.
The county prosecutor's office declined to comment on the legal implications of the report, posted Wednesday on the Detroit Free Press' Web site. A conviction of lying under oath can bring up to 15 years' imprisonment.
Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty testified last summer in a police whistle-blower lawsuit and denied any sexual or romantic ties in 2002 and 2003. But the Free Press said it examined about 14,000 text messages on Beatty's city-issued pager from those years and found many examples of such ties.
Kilpatrick is married, and Beatty was married at the time.
"I'm madly in love with you," Kilpatrick wrote on Oct. 3, 2002.
"I hope you feel that way for a long time," Beatty replied. "In case you haven't noticed, I am madly in love with you, too!"
On Oct. 16, 2002, Kilpatrick wrote Beatty: "I've been dreaming all day about having you all to myself for 3 days. Relaxing, laughing, talking, sleeping and making love."
In his testimony last summer, at one point Kilpatrick expressed anger about claims of an affair between him and Beatty.
"I think it was pretty demoralizing to her—you have to know her—but it's demoralizing to me as well," the mayor said. "My mother is a congresswoman. There have always been strong women around me. My aunt is a state legislator. I think it's absurd to assert that every woman that works with a man is a whore.
"I think it's disrespectful not just to Christine Beatty but to women who do a professional job that they do every single day. And it's also disrespectful to their families as well."
Kilpatrick issued a statement Wednesday night saying the messages "reflect a very difficult period in my personal life."
"It is profoundly embarrassing to have these extremely private messages now displayed in such a public manner," he said. "My wife and I worked our way through these intensely personal issues years ago. I would now ask that the public and the media respect the privacy of my wife and children and of Christine Beatty and her children at this deeply painful moment for our families."
The Free Press did not explain exactly how it obtained the text messages but said it was outside a lawsuit it filed to get all records related to the settlement the city reached with two former police officers.
The newspaper said it cross-referenced the text messages with the mayor's private calendar and credit card records from that period to verify events in some messages.
When asked whether the Wayne County prosecutor's office would open an investigation, spokeswoman Maria Miller said: "We have not received anything from anyone. Other than that, we have no comment."
A county jury awarded $6.5 million to the two officers in the lawsuit against the city and Kilpatrick. The jury said Kilpatrick and the city unlawfully dismissed two officers, who claimed they suffered after investigating allegations of wrongdoing within Kilpatrick's security unit.
The events happened in Kilpatrick's first four-year term. He was elected to a second term in November 2005.
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This would have made national news if Kilpatrick was affiliated with the Republican party. lol
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Only if the story was true to form involving a gay relationship.
I mean when is the last time a republican sex scandal involved a man and a woman instead of only men?
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This would have made national news if Kilpatrick was affiliated with the Republican party. lol
hold your tongue, wench :)
It was AOL's top story this AM.
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Playful flirting does NOT indicate the presence of a romantic relationship.
Several of my female friends are 'madly in love with me' and while the feelings are mutual, there is no romance between us.
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This would have made national news if Kilpatrick was affiliated with the Republican party. lol
At a minimum his party affiliation would have been all over the story if he was a Republican.
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At a minimum his party affiliation would have been all over the story if he was a Republican.
Yes, you republicans are victims.
Victims of the corporate liberal media where the reporters run the business and the owners/editors let them.
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Yes, you republicans are victims.
Victims of the corporate liberal media where the reporters run the business and the owners/editors let them.
I'm not a Republican and I'm not a victim. Next red herring? :)
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I'm not a Republican and I'm not a victim. Next red herring? :)
Your lips say 'no,no,no' to being a republican, but all your posts show you supporting Bush et al.
Which democrat are you voting for in the presidential election?
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Your lips say 'no,no,no' to being a republican, but all your posts show you supporting Bush et al.
Which democrat are you voting for in the presidential election?
I support Bush. And your point is . . . .?
I will not be voting for either Hillary or Obama. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the only candidate in the race. I gave Obama a look and decided he is Hillary with different plumbing.
Again, your point?
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I support Bush. And your point is . . . .?
I will not be voting for either Hillary or Obama. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the only candidate in the race. I gave Obama a look and decided he is Hillary with different plumbing.
Again, your point?
So b/c you are not a registered republican,you are not a republican? Personally, it doesn't matter to me what a man thinks of his own political leanings. You just seem to go out of your way to show fidelity to the republican cause.
Can you see how someone might interpret your postings on this forum as those of a man with, at the very least, republican sympathies?
You support a republican president. Every other day, you post a thread showing the misstep of any democrat--whether he be Ted Kennedy or the Justice of the Peace from Mayberry. You always chime in on how the liberal media victimizes poor republicans. You support deregulation, anti-abortion, tax cuts, immigration control, pro-war, anti-entitlements etc--all republican planks in the Rep. platform.
What democratic initiatives do you support?
You aren't a republican? OK, but you post stuff like this all time:
-I actually created a thread where I agreed with most of his (Ron Paul's) positions on issues.
-Sounds like she bought an endorsement. (re this headline you posted Pastor Got Earmark Money Before Clinton Endorsement)
- And so Martian Man's quest for the Oval Office quietly comes to an end. (re this headline you posted Kucinich getting out)
-I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for. I've been doing the process of elimination. Will not be Hillary, Obama, or Edwards. Ron Paul simply isn't a viable candidate. That really leaves me with Rudy, McCain, Romney, and Huck.
-I'm not leaning. I'm thinking about Huck, McCain, Romney, and Thompson. It will most likely be one of those four.
-Yes. I vote for Martian Man. (re Kucinich)
-I was listening to Bush the other day and I still believe he is trying to do what's best for the country. Being a wealthy lame duck, he really has no stake in the decisions he makes, other than doing what he thinks will benefit Americans in the long run. I'm actually glad he's in office.
You consistently denigrate Democrats while supporting Republicans and republican planks in the rep. platform.
Can you see why I might think you are a republican?
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So b/c you are not a registered republican,you are not a republican? Personally, it doesn't matter to me what a man thinks of his own political leanings. You just seem to go out of your way to show fidelity to the republican cause.
Can you see how someone might interpret your postings on this forum as those of a man with, at the very least, republican sympathies?
You support a republican president. Every other day, you post a thread showing the misstep of any democrat--whether he be Ted Kennedy or the Justice of the Peace from Mayberry. You always chime in on how the liberal media victimizes poor republicans. You support deregulation, anti-abortion, tax cuts, immigration control, pro-war, anti-entitlements etc--all republican planks in the Rep. platform.
What democratic initiatives do you support?
You aren't a republican? OK, but you post stuff like this all time:
-I actually created a thread where I agreed with most of his (Ron Paul's) positions on issues.
-Sounds like she bought an endorsement. (re this headline you posted Pastor Got Earmark Money Before Clinton Endorsement)
- And so Martian Man's quest for the Oval Office quietly comes to an end. (re this headline you posted Kucinich getting out)
-I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for. I've been doing the process of elimination. Will not be Hillary, Obama, or Edwards. Ron Paul simply isn't a viable candidate. That really leaves me with Rudy, McCain, Romney, and Huck.
-I'm not leaning. I'm thinking about Huck, McCain, Romney, and Thompson. It will most likely be one of those four.
-Yes. I vote for Martian Man. (re Kucinich)
-I was listening to Bush the other day and I still believe he is trying to do what's best for the country. Being a wealthy lame duck, he really has no stake in the decisions he makes, other than doing what he thinks will benefit Americans in the long run. I'm actually glad he's in office.
You consistently denigrate Democrats while supporting Republicans and republican planks in the rep. platform.
Can you see why I might think you are a republican?
You don't have to make overstatements to prove a point ("Every other day, you post a thread showing the misstep of any democrat"). You know that isn't true.
So in your review of my posts did you not find any criticism of Republicans? I'm sure there is one or two out there. :) When I get the time I'll look for them. (Maybe)
I can understand why you would think I'm a Republican, because you're pretty left of center, and I'm not. I will say that I agree with conservatives on many issues . . . because they are right (so to speak) on many issues. That doesn't make me a Republican.
Overall, I can't really say what current Democrat policies I agree with. I've said this before, but I agree with Colin Powell who said they are intellectually bankrupt. Even Obama said Republicans were the ones with the ideas. (Doh!) Seems like every time a leader of their party speaks they are talking about some form of socialism.
But no, I don't belong to any party. That's why I can vote for whomever I want. That's why I voted for Clinton twice and Bush twice. That’s why I considered voting for Obama. That's what independents do. I call things as I see them. Doesn't matter to me whether that causes people to think I'm a Republican or Democrat. Feel free to call me whatever you like. :)
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Do you idiots watch the news???? HELLO IT WAS ON COUNTLESS TIMES LAST WEEK. I got sick of seeing it... So drop the "if it was a republican" and turn on the news instead of making crap up.
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You don't have to make overstatements to prove a point ("Every other day, you post a thread showing the misstep of any democrat"). You know that isn't true.
I must say Beach Bum, I find you posting many many stories about the problems of democrats no matter what level of government they come from. I'm certain you see that trend too.
So in your review of my posts did you not find any criticism of Republicans? I'm sure there is one or two out there. :) When I get the time I'll look for them. (Maybe)
I was on hold for 20 minutes (talking to one of those efficient private insurance companies) so I thought I'd peruse your posts (that sounds weird). I looked at your threads (that's not much better).
I can understand why you would think I'm a Republican, because you're pretty left of center, and I'm not. I will say that I agree with conservatives on many issues . . . because they are right (so to speak) on many issues. That doesn't make me a Republican.
It certainly doesn't make you a democrat...or an independent.
Overall, I can't really say what current Democrat policies I agree with. I've said this before, but I agree with Colin Powell who said they are intellectually bankrupt. Even Obama said Republicans were the ones with the ideas. (Doh!) Seems like every time a leader of their party speaks they are talking about some form of socialism.
So you refer to a republican giant to articulate your estimation of the democrats. That might be skewing republican in offering up your opinion.
I don't care for Obama's pandering to the right. He just undercuts his own character when he does that. I make that statement in reference to his discussion of fixing Soc. Sec.
But no, I don't belong to any party. That's why I can vote for whomever I want. That's why I voted for Clinton twice and Bush twice. That’s why I considered voting for Obama. That's what independents do. I call things as I see them. Doesn't matter to me whether that causes people to think I'm a Republican or Democrat. Feel free to call me whatever you like. :)
I'm glad you can do those things. My only point is that you admittedly 'call them as you see them' and your quotes seem to show that you are consistently calling for republican candidates and ideas and insulting democrats and their ideas.
Anyways, we both have bigger fish to fry so onward my friend.
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Do you idiots watch the news???? HELLO IT WAS ON COUNTLESS TIMES LAST WEEK. I got sick of seeing it... So drop the "if it was a republican" and turn on the news instead of making crap up.
Did they talk about his party affiliation?
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I must say Beach Bum, I find you posting many many stories about the problems of democrats no matter what level of government they come from. I'm certain you see that trend too.
I was on hold for 20 minutes (talking to one of those efficient private insurance companies) so I thought I'd peruse your posts (that sounds weird). I looked at your threads (that's not much better).
It certainly doesn't make you a democrat...or an independent.
So you refer to a republican giant to articulate your estimation of the democrats. That might be skewing republican in offering up your opinion.
I don't care for Obama's pandering to the right. He just undercuts his own character when he does that. I make that statement in reference to his discussion of fixing Soc. Sec.
I'm glad you can do those things. My only point is that you admittedly 'call them as you see them' and your quotes seem to show that you are consistently calling for republican candidates and ideas and insulting democrats and their ideas.
Anyways, we both have bigger fish to fry so onward my friend.
Nah I don't see a trend. I post stories I find interesting.
If I happen to support "Republican ideas" it's because I think they're right. If I insult "Democrat ideas" it's because I disagree with them. Not my fault Democrats have been brain dead for so long. :) They had control of this state for over 40 years and nearly ruined it.
I have said that the Republican party has been floundering of late. They don't have a clear agenda and don't have a clear leader.
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I'm not a Republican and I'm not a victim. Next red herring? :)
you sound like one of those guys who has sex with men but then claims they're not gay
walks like a duck - talks like a duck
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beach is definitely a duck (republican) whether he says it or not
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Did they talk about his party affiliation?
His party affiliation isn't such a big deal if he's not being a hypocrite and pushing "family values".
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Did they talk about his party affiliation?
Why beach, i'm shocked... I never took you and Colossus as being the type for conspiracy theory. Yes when his backround was given they mention his party. I think it's funny, you all get excited at a dem mayor scandal like the score is even. dude was sleeping with a chick, not visiting airport glory holes and all the other crazy crap Republicans engage in.
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Not one time have I brought a republican scandal where it involved an affair with the opposite sex. I really don't care about that crap. So that's right, every single time I've brough scandal to this board, and it has been many, it involved worse issues.
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Why beach, i'm shocked... I never took you and Colossus as being the type for conspiracy theory. Yes when his backround was given they mention his party. I think it's funny, you all get excited at a dem mayor scandal like the score is even. dude was sleeping with a chick, not visiting airport glory holes and all the other crazy crap Republicans engage in.
Who's getting excited? This is a pretty big story. The mayor of one of our largest cities probably committed perjury. I'd say he is in deep kimchee.
There are three news stories posted in this thread. I didn't see his party affiliation mentioned in the story, but I might have just missed it.
And no, I don't view this as some kind of scorecard, though I do believe if the guy was a Republican that would have been mentioned.
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Who's getting excited? This is a pretty big story. The mayor of one of our largest cities probably committed perjury. I'd say he is in deep kimchee.
There are three news stories posted in this thread. I didn't see his party affiliation mentioned in the story, but I might have just missed it.
And no, I don't view this as some kind of scorecard, though I do believe if the guy was a Republican that would have been mentioned.
Had it been a string of similar scandals all dems, it would have been mentioned even more. It was mentioned in the media anyway. No big shock that it gets mentioned more for Republicans who engage in a series of homosexual scandals while at the same time denouncing the life style. No shock here beachbum. Republicans bought this treatment, they can own it. If there's a string of hypocritical dems, I'm sure it will be news. Mayor of Detroit ::) wooo... It's amazing it was on the news, and for the week. Don't talk about perjury like it's a big deal either, republicans have made it a huge no big deal. They have lied and lied and lied and when they knew they would have to lie, just refused to ever say anything under oath--Hi Bush/Cheney. Over and over and over, what a fucking joke. Gonzales was caught lying to congress how many times? No big deal to republican scum.
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Had it been a string of similar scandals all dems, it would have been mentioned even more. It was mentioned in the media anyway. No big shock that it gets mentioned more for Republicans who engage in a series of homosexual scandals while at the same time denouncing the life style. No shock here beachbum. Republicans bought this treatment, they can own it. If there's a string of hypocritical dems, I'm sure it will be news. Mayor of Detroit ::) wooo... It's amazing it was on the news, and for the week. Don't talk about perjury like it's a big deal either, republicans have made it a huge no big deal. They have lied and lied and lied and when they knew they would have to lie, just refused to ever say anything under oath--Hi Bush/Cheney. Over and over and over, what a fucking joke. Gonzales was caught lying to congress how many times? No big deal to republican scum.
Might not be a big deal to you, but I think this is a potentially huge story. Detroit is the 11th largest city in the country. The fact the mayor of the 11th largest city in the country probably committed perjury and might be prosecuted is a pretty big. The fact he is a Democrat will likely be a footnote.
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BB admits he's a cheerleader for whoever is in power.
in 10 months, he'll be defending every stupid move hilary does.
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Might not be a big deal to you, but I think this is a potentially huge story. Detroit is the 11th largest city in the country. The fact the mayor of the 11th largest city in the country probably committed perjury and might be prosecuted is a pretty big. The fact he is a Democrat will likely be a footnote.
I just said Republicans are the one's who made perjury not a big deal. I don't see a mayor scandal as a big deal. It's a big deal to that city, if I lived there I might care. If not you're basically saying this is a big deal to dems. It's not big. A senator soliciting homosexual sex in a restroom is big. Making a big deal out of a mayor covering his affair, just as stupid as the big deal made of Clinton. If you look at the polls at that time, the people thought that witchhunt was stupid too. I can't believe you, we have huge lies being told constantly at the highest levels of our government with zero chance of a prosecution occuring unless it's by a DEM!!!!!!!!!!!! and you're here with Mayor Mariage Problem being a big deal ::) Gimmeabreak...
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I just said Republicans are the one's who made perjury not a big deal. I don't see a mayor scandal as a big deal. It's a big deal to that city, if I lived there I might care. If not you're basically saying this is a big deal to dems. It's not big. A senator soliciting homosexual sex in a restroom is big. Making a big deal out of a mayor covering his affair, just as stupid as the big deal made of Clinton. If you look at the polls at that time, the people thought that witchhunt was stupid too. I can't believe you, we have huge lies being told constantly at the highest levels of our government with zero chance of a prosecution occuring unless it's by a DEM!!!!!!!!!!!! and you're here with Mayor Mariage Problem being a big deal ::) Gimmeabreak...
O.K. You don't believe this is a big story. I do. The mayor of the 11th largest city in the country was sued for firing people who threatened to expose his affair. He then lied about the affair during his civil trial. He was then found liable to the tune of $8.4 million, with $9 million in legal fees. He may have also used taxpayer resources to carry on this affair. Now he could face prison time. Huge story.
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O.K. You don't believe this is a big story. I do. The mayor of the 11th largest city in the country was sued for firing people who threatened to expose his affair. He then lied about the affair during his civil trial. He was then found liable to the tune of $8.4 million, with $9 million in legal fees. He may have also used taxpayer resources to carry on this affair. Now he could face prison time. Huge story.
Why would anyone outside of Detroit even care?
I know I don't
If I never knew about this it wouldn't alter my life in any way
hardly a HUGE story
Would you say this is HUGER than the Lingerie Mayor story you posted a few weeks ago?
I'm not sure which one I care less about
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O.K. You don't believe this is a big story. I do. The mayor of the 11th largest city in the country was sued for firing people who threatened to expose his affair. He then lied about the affair during his civil trial. He was then found liable to the tune of $8.4 million, with $9 million in legal fees. He may have also used taxpayer resources to carry on this affair. Now he could face prison time. Huge story.
Would you like to address the persective here? Big story on what level? The Downingstreet memos which showed the president intentionally lied to take us into war got zero coverage here in America and you've refused to address it every time I post it. Is this bigger than that? Is it bigger than the series of republicans homosexual sex scandals? No doubt this is big for that city, what does that mean to someone in Denver, in LA, in NY... not jack shit. Who was effected by the president's lies? Who was effected by the lies of Alberto G? So I ask, what level of Big are you talking about. Big to that state, I would agree, huge for that city, I would agree, big for the nation or for even dems, hell no. The 11th largest city and on most lists, the worst place to live in America. It's real hard to get shocked here.
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Would you like to address the persective here? Big story on what level? The Downingstreet memos which showed the president intentionally lied to take us into war got zero coverage here in America and you've refused to address it every time I post it. Is this bigger than that? Is it bigger than the series of republicans homosexual sex scandals? No doubt this is big for that city, what does that mean to someone in Denver, in LA, in NY... not jack shit. Who was effected by the president's lies? Who was effected by the lies of Alberto G? So I ask, what level of Big are you talking about. Big to that state, I would agree, huge for that city, I would agree, big for the nation or for even dems, hell no. The 11th largest city and on most lists, the worst place to live in America. It's real hard to get shocked here.
Big on the level of CNN, Fox, MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc. covering the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/detroit.mayor/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325070,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22820978/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/detroit-mayor-kwame-kilpatrick
Imagine that. It's front page news all over the country.
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And the Lingerie Mayor was on 20/20
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=196249.0
WHO CARES?
WTF is wrong with the "news MEDIA" in this country?
How about reporting some real news for a change
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Big on the level of CNN, Fox, MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc. covering the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/detroit.mayor/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325070,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22820978/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/detroit-mayor-kwame-kilpatrick
Imagine that. It's front page news all over the country.
They were!!! The first time I saw this on the internet was when it was posted here. that's why I said you guys should watch the news because when I saw the replies, I had a hard time seeing how you all missed it. This was on major media outlets last week for several days. They even had a reporter in the field do a segment on cnn. I sat through some stupid little side segment talking about why his text messages were retrievable where if he had used other services they would not have been. It had to do with the service he went through government paid or some shit. It was constant on headline news for a bit.
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And the Lingerie Mayor was on 20/20
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=196249.0
WHO CARES?
WTF is wrong with the "news MEDIA" in this country?
How about reporting some real news for a change
exactly, come on BEACH, how can you cry about this not being covered, even though it was and not have a care in the world that the downing street memos which were authenticated didn't make news here???? I watched this for almost a week, all the info that could be said on the networks was said, it's now being investigated, what do you want, an ongoing media circus around a mayor's infidelity... hahahaha... figures.
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Um I think the issue was whether the media highlighted his party affiliation and the fact that this is a big story.
I'm not the one melting down in this thread. lol. :)
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Um I think the issue was whether the media highlighted his party affiliation and the fact that this is a big story.
I'm not the one melting down in this thread. lol. :)
I didn't say anyone was melting down and I thought I addressed the issue you spoke of? I guess they didn't highlight his party as they have with the republican homosexual scandals and I would expect as soon as this becomes trend in the party they will. They didn't hide his party affiliation either, they just didn't make it the point. It's been made point with republicans because of the trend. If one republican screwed up, I wouldn't expect much to be made of the party, but when trends appear, then I expect it. I can't fathom what more you or anyone would want beyond mentioning his party. They talked about him being the head of some democratic mayors org too. To want more out of it than that is to want some scandal to be applied to the party. where is the justification for that? With the republicans, it's trend and a trend that stands opposite to their stance on homosexuality. That's news for the party. I wouldn't expect the party to take the fall for one screwup republican or dem.
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I didn't say anyone was melting down and I thought I addressed the issue you spoke of? I guess they didn't highlight his party as they have with the republican homosexual scandals and I would expect as soon as this becomes trend in the party they will. They didn't hide his party affiliation either, they just didn't make it the point. It's been made point with republicans because of the trend. If one republican screwed up, I wouldn't expect much to be made of the party, but when trends appear, then I expect it. I can't fathom what more you or anyone would want beyond mentioning his party. They talked about him being the head of some democratic mayors org too. To want more out of it than that is to want some scandal to be applied to the party. where is the justification for that? With the republicans, it's trend and a trend that stands opposite to their stance on homosexuality. That's news for the party. I wouldn't expect the party to take the fall for one screwup republican or dem.
Not a trend? In the past year or so, the Democrat mayor of the second largest city in the country had an affair with a reporter who covers him and the Democrat mayor of the fourteenth largest city had an affair with his campaign manager's wife. Sounds like a trend to me. I'm sure there are other scandals involving other government officials.
In any event, we will have to agree to disagree on whether this is a major story and whether his party affiliation would be a much bigger story if he was a Republican.
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Not a trend? In the past year or so, the Democrat mayor of the second largest city in the country had an affair with a reporter who covers him and the Democrat mayor of the fourteenth largest city had an affair with his campaign manager's wife. Sounds like a trend to me. I'm sure there are other scandals involving other government officials.
In any event, we will have to agree to disagree on whether this is a major story and whether his party affiliation would be a much bigger story if he was a Republican.
There are ~ 30,000 incorporated cities in the US.
You just listed 2 scandals and you see a TREND??
These stories matter to NO ONE except the handful of people involved and the few people who care to follow the politics in that particular city
Shit half the people in this country don't even vote in the National Election and you think they care what's going on is one city??
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Yes, mayors of three of the largest cities in the country involved in scandals in a short period of time is a trend.
Then there's the Governor of New Jersey, a member of Congress accepting a bribe, an Edwards donor getting indicted for illegal contributions, etc. All fairly recent.
That said, I don't think any party has a monopoly on scandals, but if you're looking for a trend, it's obviously there, in both parties.
To say no one cares really makes no sense. You may not care, which is your business, but the fact these stories make national news means plenty of people care.
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Bum, the trend you think you see only exists in your peanut sized brain.
Sheesh - trying to get you to understand basic math is like trying to show a dog a card trick.
then again you've admitted yourself that even elementary school math is beyond your grasp
Me and math don't get along too well. One of my kids was teasing me the other day because I was having trouble helping him with his math homework. (I had to make his sister help him.) I told him I don't need to know that stuff anymore.
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Yes, mayors of three of the largest cities in the country involved in scandals in a short period of time is a trend.
Then there's the Governor of New Jersey, a member of Congress accepting a bribe, an Edwards donor getting indicted for illegal contributions, etc. All fairly recent.
That said, I don't think any party has a monopoly on scandals, but if you're looking for a trend, it's obviously there, in both parties.
To say no one cares really makes no sense. You may not care, which is your business, but the fact these stories make national news means plenty of people care.
the fact that the media makes these national stories should not be construed as proof that anyone cares.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority
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The bottomline is americans hate republicans because they,ve shit-canned the country............very simple.
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Bum, the trend you think you see only exists in your peanut sized brain.
Sheesh - trying to get you to understand basic math is like trying to show a dog a card trick.
then again you've admitted yourself that even elementary school math is beyond your grasp
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I'm suprised it took you this long to pull that out.
Why don't you try addressing the argument instead?
Or maybe you can go tell your daughter to do it for you
The following quote is one of your rare moments of honesty on this site
btw - that's a great lesson you're teaching your son. No need to understand basic math once you become an adult??
Me and math don't get along too well. One of my kids was teasing me the other day because I was having trouble helping him with his math homework. (I had to make his sister help him.) I told him I don't need to know that stuff anymore.
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Don't we have enough Democrat and Republican debate as it is? Let's get back to the subject at hand, the esteemed Kwame. A good buddy of mine was a former Detroit cop, and his face always turns deep red when I mention the "hip-hop" mayor of DeeDerRoy. This guy is something else. Already in a bad situation in a city that was once the crown industrial jewel of the US, he has forced the already near broke city to pay millions in various lawsuits, repeat personal bodyguard offenses, exhorbant spending on things such as SUVs for his wife and bodyguards(on city money at that), racial politics, and other stupidity and ineptitude.
Detroit is literally a war zone. Nearly half of the city's residents are functionally illiterate. The population has almost halved since it's 2 million person peak. Foreclosures are amongst the highest in the nation. Joblessness rates are at near all time highs. Much of the city is barely distinguishable from current day war-torn Baghdad. Crime is high. Detroit itself is a huge tax burden on Michigan tax payers. Corruption in all forms of government are rampant and common.
I know that not all the blame can be laid at Kilpatrick alone, as he is not responsible for much of the city's woes, but I'll be damned if he doesn't personally gain from it financially and makes the situation even worse off than it already is. Even the most principled and well-intentioned man cannot single-handedly turn things around, but I'm sure that with such a man at the helm, Detroit would not be quite suffering the woes it does today.
Where the fuck is Robocop when you need him? Ole' Detroit
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Don't we have enough Democrat and Republican debate as it is? Let's get back to the subject at hand, the esteemed Kwame. A good buddy of mine was a former Detroit cop, and his face always turns deep red when I mention the "hip-hop" mayor of DeeDerRoy. This guy is something else. Already in a bad situation in a city that was once the crown industrial jewel of the US, he has forced the already near broke city to pay millions in various lawsuits, repeat personal bodyguard offenses, exhorbant spending on things such as SUVs for his wife and bodyguards(on city money at that), racial politics, and other stupidity and ineptitude.
Detroit is literally a war zone. Nearly half of the city's residents are functionally illiterate. The population has almost halved since it's 2 million person peak. Foreclosures are amongst the highest in the nation. Joblessness rates are at near all time highs. Much of the city is barely distinguishable from current day war-torn Baghdad. Crime is high. Detroit itself is a huge tax burden on Michigan tax payers. Corruption in all forms of government are rampant and common.
I know that not all the blame can be laid at Kilpatrick alone, as he is not responsible for much of the city's woes, but I'll be damned if he doesn't personally gain from it financially and makes the situation even worse off than it already is. Even the most principled and well-intentioned man cannot single-handedly turn things around, but I'm sure that with such a man at the helm, Detroit would not be quite suffering the woes it does today.
Where the fuck is Robocop when you need him? Ole' Detroit
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So in the middle of that kind of crisis he is using city resources to carry on an affair. Pretty outrageous.
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isn't the alleged affair the LEAST significant issue.
btw - I live in CA and couldn't give less of shit what happens in Detroit just like I'm sure they coudn't give a shit what happens in my city
Did anyone notice in Robocop how Detroit looked alot like Dallas??
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Potentially more trouble for Kilpatrick. Strippers in the "mayoral mansion"? Involved in a murder investigation? Good grief . . . .
Dancer's Family Lawyer Wants More Texts
Last Update: 11:02 am
Text messages between 34 people, including Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Christine Beatty, members of the mayor’s executive protection unit and others in the Detroit police department could all become public if the lawyer for a murdered dancer’s family has his way.
Attorney Norman Yatooma represents the family of Tamara Greene who he says danced at a Manoogian Mansion party. Greene was killed and Yatooma wants to preserve any text messages, and quite a bit of additional evidence, that may shed light on her death.
He says the mayor’s personal attorney has flown to the SkyTel paging offices in Missouri to ask why city text messages were not destroyed.
Yatooma has now subpoenaed those text messages as well as ballistics reports, surveillance video from the mayoral mansion, and logs of who used the Tamara Greene files at the police department.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=517cc953-c714-43d7-9c78-e4962c4fa3a7
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Detroit Mayor: I'm Not Resigning
Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:30 AM
DETROIT -- Embattled Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said Thursday he won't resign because of a text-messaging scandal that has engulfed his administration, but acknowledged the uproar has reduced him to tears.
Kilpatrick, during an appearance on a morning radio show, was asked whether he would step down.
"Absolutely not," Kilpatrick said on "The Paul W. Smith Show" on WJR-AM. "I don't understand when people say `resign.'"
The mayor's comments came a day after the state's highest court rejected an attempt by Kilpatrick to prevent documents from being made public that detail a city settlement that helped conceal an apparent affair with a top aide.
The Michigan Supreme Court unanimously upheld two lower court rulings ordering the release of documents. They were made public hours after the ruling.
During the radio interview, Kilpatrick described the anguish he has felt over causing hurt for those close to him as well as to the city as a whole. "It's been a tremendously emotional process for me," he said. "I haven't cried this much since I was a baby."
The papers released Wednesday concern an $8.4 million settlement between the city and two former police officers who alleged they were fired or forced to resign for investigating claims that Kilpatrick used his security unit to cover up extramarital affairs.
They include the initial settlement agreement between the city and the former officers, which makes reference to embarrassing and sexually explicit text messages between Kilpatrick and former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty. The unsealed documents do not include transcripts of the actual messages.
The Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News sued the city to get the sealed documents. The city argued the documents should remain sealed because they involved communications between attorneys during court-ordered mediation, but the high court ruled "there is no FOIA exemption for settlement agreements," referring to the state's Freedom of Information Act.
The Free Press first reported last month about the text messages between the married mayor and Beatty, who also was married at the time. The newspaper has not said how it obtained the messages.
Both denied under oath having a physical relationship during the former officers' lawsuit, and the unsealed documents could be used in an ongoing perjury investigation of Kilpatrick. Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy is investigating and has said she expects to have a decision by mid-March.
http://www.newsmax.com/us/detroit_mayor/2008/02/28/76341.html
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The power of pussy will get ya!! 8)
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Speaking of subpoenas . . . .
Council unanimously orders Kilpatrick, Beatty to appear
By ZACHARY GORCHOW • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • March 12, 2008
The Detroit City Council unanimously voted today to order Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, former chief of staff Christine Beatty and several top city officials to appear before the council later this month.
If the people requested refuse requests to appear, the council will use its subpoena power to force their presence.
Besides Kilpatrick and Beatty, the resolution also orders the following people to appear before the council: John Johnson Jr., the city’s corporation counsel; Sharon McPhail, Kilpatrick's general counsel; Valerie Colbert-Osamuede, a city attorney; Samuel McCargo, Kilpatrick’s attorney during last summer's whistle-blower trial; Wilson Copeland and William Mitchell, also attorneys who have served Kilpatrick; and Michael Stefani, the attorney who represented three former police officers in the whistle-blower case.
The individuals are to appear before the council on March 26 or 27.
The council further ordered these people as well as the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News and the newspapers’ attorneys to produce all notes referencing the whistle-blower case settlement, all documents regarding action after the whistle-blower trial, all briefs and trial exhibits from the trial and all e-mail correspondence relating to the settlement of the whistle-blower case.
The council also voteed to authorize the subpoena of these materials if they are not produced.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080312/NEWS01/80312044/1001/news
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LOL @ beach Bum attacking the person he's arguing with, instead of the issue.
Very weak debate tactic employed there, BB.
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Someone give this guy Spitzer's phone number . . . .
Cox says Kilpatrick 'not fit to be mayor'
54% of residents want him to step down, survey says
BY BILL McGRAW, M.L. ELRICK and BEN SCHMITT • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS • March 13, 2008
As state Attorney General Mike Cox became the highest-ranking public official to call for Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to resign, the mayor also faced an ominous erosion of support Wednesday from local VIPs and regular Detroiters.
Criticism of varying degrees also came from Detroit's influential Baptist pastors; three business leaders; rarely outspoken anchorwoman Carmen Harlan; the black-owned Michigan Chronicle and, in a poll, everyday residents.
The developments follow Tuesday night's State of the City speech. The normally prosaic address became the talk of the town after Kilpatrick closed it by blistering the news media, critics and City Council President Ken Cockrel Jr., while using racially charged language to describe death threats and racial slurs he said have been directed at him and his family.
"He is not fit to be mayor anymore," said Cox, a Republican. "He should resign."
Cox noted Kilpatrick got involved with an employee, Christine Beatty, lied under oath and got Beatty to lie under oath. He said the last straw was the mayor's race-baiting Tuesday night. "I can't pretend to hide my head in the sand when his problem is becoming a regional problem," he said.
Critics over the past four years have called Cox a Kilpatrick apologist because the attorney general led an investigation of a long-rumored and never-proven Manoogian mansion party and concluded it had all the elements of an "urban legend."
Some State Police officials criticized Cox for ending the investigation too soon and for failing to interview the mayor's wife, Carlita Kilpatrick. Cox and Kilpatrick both have strong ties to Mike Duggan, the former Wayne County prosecutor.
Mayoral spokesman James Canning said, "Mayor Kilpatrick confirmed in his State of the City address, he will stay in office, he will stay focused on city business and he will continue to lead our city forward."
It also was revealed Wednesday that hours before Kilpatrick's speech on Tuesday, the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit and Vicinity was poised to call for the mayor's resignation.
In a letter obtained by the Free Press, the council's executive board wrote, "The issues which comprise the current crisis will not go away during this administration's tenure."
The letter said the city's leadership "failed to conduct city business affairs with transparency and moral integrity;" had "abused the office of mayor of the City of Detroit in ways that directly harm the well being of the citizens of our city," and that "the violation of the public trust by the current administration is deplorable and cannot be supported or endured."
The letter concluded that the council "states unequivocally the position of 'no confidence' in the current administration and its leadership."
But the letter, signed by Baptist council President Oscar King III, was not made public after Claude Cline, a member of the council who works for Kilpatrick, objected and the council's general assembly took a vote. By a 34-24 margin, the letter was not released.
On Wednesday, the group's lawyer, Bertram Marks, said King believes that he needs more information before he can make a statement that he can support with facts."
Cline said Kilpatrick is set to meet with the pastors Tuesday.
The council, which represents 400 clergy members, endorsed Kilpatrick's policies in his 2005 re-election bid.
Wednesday morning, in a previously arranged meeting, three of the city's best-known corporate leaders -- industrialist Dave Bing; Doug Rothwell, president of Detroit Renaissance, and Jim Nicholson, chief executive officer of PVS Chemicals -- came to see the mayor. Bing told Kilpatrick he was losing credibility and also chastised him for the way he concluded his speech.
One of the most surprising reactions to the mayor's speech came from longtime WDIV-TV (Channel 4) anchorwoman Harlan, who delivered a rare commentary Tuesday night after the mayor's speech. Directly addressing him, she scolded the mayor for the language he employed at the end of his speech.
"Using emotionally charged words like 'the N-word' and phrases like 'hate-driven' and 'bigoted assault,' even 'lynch-mob mentality,' stirs the core of even my emotions," said Harlan, who assured the mayor she loves Detroit as much as him.
Throughout the mayoral scandal, the Michigan Chronicle weekly newspaper has argued to let the judicial process take its course, but the edition that hit the street Wednesday took a more critical tone.
"We are witnessing the administration paying dearly for its severe mistakes," Senior Editor Bankole Thompson wrote. "Who are the mayor's advisers? How much are they getting paid? What advice have they been giving the mayor? Are they really advising him or mostly lining their pockets?"
Kilpatrick also drew criticism for using the N-word in his Tuesday speech after taking part in a rally last summer to symbolically bury the racial epithet. Kilpatrick, who reportedly planned the final moments of his Tuesday speech in advance, invoked the word as he described slurs he said he and his family have received.
"It most especially was not a place to use the same word that, supposedly, we buried last summer," the Rev. Edgar Vann, pastor of Second Ebenezer Baptist Church, told the Associated Press. "You can make references to it without using it."
Vann said he believed "people are tired of race being used as a tactic."
Eleanor Josaitis, cofounder of Focus:HOPE, told the AP she worried Kilpatrick's choice of words would further polarize the region.
"We've all worked very hard to bury the N-word," she said. "People are disappointed -- just disappointed in everything right now. Everybody is just praying we bring it to an end."
Canning, Kilpatrick's spokesman, told the Free Press that "the mayor used that word in describing what has been said to him in e-mails, letters and phone calls. That's how he used the word. It's a horrible word, no one denied that."
The poll of everyday Detroiters, conducted for a Lansing marketing and political consulting firm, showed an increase in Detroit residents who want Kilpatrick to resign.
Of the 300 Detroiters surveyed Monday and Tuesday, 54% said Kilpatrick should leave, while 34% said he should stay, and 12% were unsure what he should do. The poll had a margin of error of 5.8 percentage points.
In January, a week after the Free Press broke the text-messaging scandal, 45% of people surveyed said he should resign; 42% said he should stay.
The messages showed that Kilpatrick and his then-chief of staff, Christine Beatty, lied under oath about their relationship and gave misleading testimony about the firing of then-deputy police chief Gary Brown during a civil trial last summer.
"He has done nothing to improve his numbers in the past two months," said Kelly Rossman-McKinney, chief executive officer of the Rossman Group, which commissioned the poll.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080313/NEWS01/803130379/1007/NEWS05
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Sex Scandal and Possible Perjury Charges Aren't Slowing Down Detroit Mayor ... Yet
Thursday, March 13, 2008
DETROIT — Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick continues meeting with Detroit business leaders about his plans to move the city forward despite a text-messaging sex scandal and possible perjury charges that could remove him from office.
A day after meeting with three of the city's most prominent businessmen, Kilpatrick spoke Thursday morning to others at the Detroit Athletic Club.
The 15-minute speech reiterated portions of Tuesday's State of the City address in which Kilpatrick outlined his vision for improving Detroit neighborhoods, police protection, job training and finding employment for residents, mayoral spokeswoman Denise Tolliver said.
But a prosecutor's investigation into whether Kilpatrick will be charged with perjury for testimony during a whistle-blowers' trial and the furor over an agreement settling that lawsuit for $8.4 million has dogged his administration for nearly two months.
Racially charged statements Kilpatrick made during his State of the City also may have muddied the city's business waters.
Jason Vines, a senior vice president at Compuware Corp., says chief executive Peter Karmanos does not want the issue to stop Detroit's momentum.
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Detroit Mayor in Hot Water "We support whomever is sitting in that mayoral chair if that person is moving the city forward," Vines said. "With this distraction and embarrassment for our city, you wonder if it could stop the momentum."
Karmanos attended Tuesday's address as he does for every State of the City, Vines added.
But there now is a "collective saddening" surrounding the current controversy, he said.
"There is no good outcome," he said. "We've made great progress, and much of that you can put in the win column for Mayor Kilpatrick."
Tolliver confirmed that Kilpatrick met Wednesday with Dave Bing, Doug Rothwell and James Nicholson. Bing is chair of the Bing Group. Rothwell is president of Detroit Renaissance, and Nicholson is president and chief executive of PVS Chemicals, Inc.
They discussed policy and development in the city, Tolliver said.
She denied published reports that Kilpatrick was criticized at that meeting for emotional, off-the-script remarks made near the end of Tuesday's address that included use of the "n-word" in describing calls and e-mails he has received since the text-messaging scandal first was reported.
Kilpatrick and former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty denied under oath in last summer's whistle-blowers' trial that they had a romantic relationship in 2002 and 2003. But excerpts of sexually explicit text messages left on Beatty's city-issued pager contradict their testimony.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy launched her investigation after the Detroit Free Press reported those text messages in January. Worthy said earlier this week that she expects to have a decision the week of March 24 on whether to charge both with perjury.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337730,00.html
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Kilpatrick vows to stay put after City Council asks for resignation
BY ZACHARY GORCHOW • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • March 18, 2008
The Detroit City Council has just voted to call for Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick’s resignation, an extraordinary rebuke as Kilpatrick seeks to survive the text-message scandal.
The vote was 7-1. Voting yes were Council President Ken Cockrel Jr., Sheila Cockrel, Barbara-Rose Collins, Brenda Jones, Kwame Kenyatta, Alberta Tinsley-Talabi and JoAnn Watson. Council President Pro Tem Monica Conyers voted no. Martha Reeves was absent.
The resolution is nonbinding, and Kilpatrick has dismissed it as irrelevant and vowed not to resign. A last-minute change to the resolution struck language calling for the council’s independent attorney, Bill Goodman to “explore the proceedings by which the mayor may be removed from office” if Kilpatrick stands by his promise to stay in office.
Kenyatta, the resolution’s sponsor, said he agreed to that change to satisfy other council members’ requests.
The resolution cites 33 reasons for Kilpatrick to quit, including failing to inform the council of a secret deal the mayor made to settle a whistleblower lawsuit and an accusation that he “repeatedly obfuscates the truth.” It also claims his administration has failed to govern effectively, noting widespread street light outages and mandatory audits getting turned in late.
It also says, “there is an overwhelming and growing sentiment amongst citizens of Detroit that the City Council should stand firm against Mayor Kilpatrick and seek his resignation.”
Kilpatrick downplayed the resolution this afternoon after a gathering at Wayne County Community College's east-side campus appearance.
"My reaction is, OK, now since it's over, it has no effect, it's not binding, let's get back to work," Kilpatrick told a pack of reporters. "I don't blame anybody on council. The incredible scrutiny and overwhelming pressure of the media - you all are something - it's probably tough for anybody there."
Kilpatirck said he "absolutely" can still work with the council.
"I don't think anybody in this city could have stood up to that scrutiny but me. No, I don't think it will affect us at all. I think we will keep moving forward."
He said he is awaiting Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy's decision on criminal charges like everyone else. But he appeared confident that he will be vindicated.
"There will be a time when all the truth will come out, and I think at the end of that everybody will be vindicating Kwame Kilpatrick, both legally and politically and everything else."
The mayor received more support in early public comment than he did two weeks ago.
Lorenzo Houston, 57, an east side resident, said Kilpatrick's track record in the city is outstanding, especially in helping the elderly.
“I’m not down on the suburbs, but they are not the City of Detroit, "he said. “I think the people that elected him should be the people to determine what happens with the mayor for the most part.”
But Valerie Burris, 48, who lives on the northwest side, said the council has every right to demand the mayor's resignation.
“The mayor has disgraced this city," she said. "He has lied to this council. I don’t want a mayor who lies to his people.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080318/NEWS01/80318008/1003
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Detroit mayor to face felony charges
DETROIT, Michigan (CNN) -- A Wayne County prosecutor said Monday she will seek felony charges against Detroit's embattled Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.
Kilpatrick, who is married, has been snarled in a well-publicized sex scandal since January after The Detroit Free Press reported he exchanged romantic text messages with his then-chief of staff, Christine Beatty.
The Detroit Free Press reported in January that in an analysis of nearly 14,000 text messages on Beatty's city-issued pager, it found some from 2002 and 2003 that indicated the two were having a romantic affair.
The newspaper report contradicted testimony Kilpatrick gave last August in a court case brought by police officers against the mayor and the city of Detroit alleging the mayor retaliated against the officers for their role in investigating his office. Critics alleged that Kilpatrick committed perjury in the case and called for his resignation.
In testimony during that case, Kilpatrick and Beatty both denied having a romantic relationship.
Prosecutor Kym Worthy said that "even children understand that lying is wrong. Witnesses must give truthful testimony."
Worthy said she will seek perjury, official misconduct and obstruction of justice charges. Watch a report about the messages »
Beatty resigned as Kilpatrick's chief of staff on January 28.
Kilpatrick offered an abject apology to his constituents January 30, but remained adamant he would not resign.
"I truly apologize to each and every one of you, individually and to the whole city," Kilpatrick said in a sometimes emotional televised statement.
Sitting next to his wife, Carlita, he also apologized to "my entire family, and specifically to the four people I love most in this world" -- his wife and his sons, 12-year-old twins Jelani and Jalil and 6-year-old Jonas.
"Over the past few days, there has been some speculation about who is in charge of the city," Kilpatrick said. "Make no mistake about it: Since 2002, I have been in charge of the city. There have been ups and downs. There have been hills and mountains and valleys, but through it all, I remain in charge of the city."
On speculation regarding a possible resignation, the mayor said, "Let me be clear: I would never quit on you. Ever. We've got a lot of work to do, and with your help, I'm going to continue to lead this city in getting the work done."
Kilpatrick was frank about the pain the allegations have caused his family. "I'm responsible for that," he said.
"For the first time in my life, I had to have a conversation with my 12-year-old twin sons about very grown-up things. It was, without a doubt, the hardest conversation that I've ever had in my entire life."
Regarding his wife, he said, "Our marriage has not been perfect, but it has been great. Now I've put her in a situation which many couples deal with in the privacy of their own homes. But in our case, it's on the front page of the newspaper."
Carlita Kilpatrick also spoke. "Yes, I am angry. Yes, I am hurt and I am disappointed, but there is no question that I love my husband," she said. The couple has been working "through some very painful issues" with help from their pastor and others, she said.
"Our family has endured the most painful and intrusive week of our lives," she said. "Our most intimate issues have been laid out for all to see. ... However, this private matter is between me, my husband and God. We are deeply committed to working through these issues together as a family."
The mayor and his wife urged Detroit residents -- and the media -- to allow them privacy and space.
"If you have to attack someone, attack me," Kilpatrick said. "I would ask that you don't follow my wife, you don't film my kids going to school. I ask you not to have helicopters flying around our home. I ask that you leave them alone. I am the mayor. I made the mistake. I am accountable."
He said he could not discuss specifics of the situation because of pending "legal issues."
Kilpatrick said he knew residents have been waiting to hear from him, but last weekend, for the first time since he took office six years ago, "I just put everything aside and focused on my family."
He said he told his sons that when you make a mistake, "you learn from it. You get up, you dust yourself off and you keep moving forward," adding that he hopes the city will keep moving forward.
"God bless you, Detroit," he said. "I love you, and I'll see you at work tomorrow."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/24/kilpatrick.investigation/index.html
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No worries - I'm sure if he's convicted President Bush will commute his sentence.
I mean if Libby is convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to federal investigators about something as incosequential as intentionally exposing a covert agent then surely this guy must be worthy of the same treatment.
Shit all he lied about was an extra-marital affair
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You can see his mug shot here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html
They really need to impeach this fool, since he doesn't have the good sense and decency to resign.
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They really need to impeach this fool, since he doesn't have the good sense and decency to resign.
LOL... you want a mayor impeached for having an affair... but you don't think AG Gonzalez should have been investigated, you thought Libby was an innocent victim despite the jury's findings...
That blind party loyalty, you see it in so many people, it's pathetic. You have no moral compass. You don't know anything but the fear of your daddy, in this case, rove and crew.
"They should impeach this fool"... wow, you are amusing.
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You can see his mug shot here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html
They really need to impeach this fool, since he doesn't have the good sense and decency to resign.
Bum - weren't you the one who was constantly harping that there was no underlying crime in the Libby case?
Libby was convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to Federal investigators yet you seemed to think it was all so unfair because you kept saying .....no underlying crime.
This guy is being indicted for basically the same charges - perjury and obstruction in regards to an alleged affair between 2 consenting adults.
Where is the underlying crime?
Why is it that you're more outraged about consensual SEX more than a potential act of TREASON??
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Bum - weren't you the one who was constantly harping that there was no underlying crime in the Libby case?
Libby was convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to Federal investigators yet you seemed to think it was all so unfair because you kept saying .....no underlying crime.
This guy is being indicted for basically the same charges - perjury and obstruction in regards to an alleged affair between 2 consenting adults.
Where is the underlying crime?
Why is it that you're more outraged about consensual SEX more than a potential act of TREASON??
Go back and read the story. He was accused of firing police officers who threatened to expose the fact he was using government resources to pay for his affair. That's your underlying crime. He was sued by these officers and lied about his affair during the civil trial.
Who said anything about being outraged? This case has nothing to do with Libby. Treason? lol . . . . ::) It's about the mayor of the 11th largest city in the country using government resources to carry on an affair, firing public servants who threatened to expose him, forcing the city to pay millions to settle the lawsuit, and lying about the entire episode to try and save his own sorry hide.
He should give Spitzer a call and get some advice.
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Go back and read the story. He was accused of firing police officers who threatened to expose the fact he was using government resources to pay for his affair. That's your underlying crime. He was sued by these officers and lied about his affair during the civil trial.
Who said anything about being outraged? This case has nothing to do with Libby. Treason? lol . . . . ::) It's about the mayor of the 11th largest city in the country using government resources to carry on an affair, firing public servants who threatened to expose him, forcing the city to pay millions to settle the lawsuit, and lying about the entire episode to try and save his own sorry hide.
He should give Spitzer a call and get some advice.
I didn't the see the part about the cops.
That is a real crime.
Perjury is a real crime too
Too bad we could never get to the bottom of the perpetrator of the actual crime in the Libby case
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Saw a great discussion about this on Lou Dobbs last night. Here is an excerpt:
DOBBS: Detroit's mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, today pleaded not guilty to felony charges that included perjury, obstruction of justice, misconduct in office. Kilpatrick and his former aide accused of lying under oath about their alleged affair, their role in retaliating against two police officers investigating.
Wayne County prosecutor Kym Worthy says this case is not about an affair, it's about lying under oath. Kym Worthy joins me tonight from Detroit.
Good to have you with us.
KYM WORTHY, WAYNE CO PROSECUTOR: Thank you.
DOBBS: Let me ask you, this -- these charges, I'm -- having followed that the case that the "Detroit Free Press" broke, did your initial information on this case come from the "Detroit Free Press?"
WORTHY: Yes, it did. The "Detroit Free Press" are the ones that broke the story and we began an investigation shortly thereafter.
DOBBS: And as we have watched this case unfold, it seems pretty clear, that there is, at least on the civil side, a clear statement that this mayor carried out an adulterous affair with his chief of staff, that an investigation into his conduct by two police officers resulted in their termination and their careers were destroyed and the city had to spend $8 million, $8.4 million, to settle that case. Is that part of this -- correct to this point?
WORTHY: That's part of our case and certainly we charged four perjury cases, two counts are based on lying under oath at the trial, based on the relationship, and two counts are based on the lying about the firing of Gary Brown.
DOBBS: And as I watched you enunciate these charges against those -- those folks, I have to tell you, Kym Worthy, I -- my thought was, I would not want you after me. I mean you were -- you are straightforward, you're very businesslike. Is there any political ax in this thing whatsoever?
WORTHY: I don't think -- no, there's not. Wayne County, which is 43 cities, Detroit is the largest city. I have no ax to grind with anyone. We were simply doing our job. It happened in my jurisdiction, so we investigate it and we'll prosecute in my jurisdiction.
DOBBS: Then if you would help us all out understand the politics of Detroit. This mayor is on the record as having been adulterous, having carried out an affair an employee of the city of Detroit, destroyed the careers of two law enforcement agents. It cost the city $8 million and this mayor is promising not to quit, when one would think --
WORTHY: Well, that's part and parcel of what this is about and I have no say, and nor should I have any say, on whether he resigns or not. But, it's an unusual stand, but it's something we have to deal with. Whether he's the mayor or the ex-mayor, we have to go along with the charges.
DOBBS: And the defense attorney says point-blank those text messages between Ms. Beatty, his lover and the chief of staff, and the mayor were -- you gathered them up illegally.
WORTHY: Well, I can't speak out for how anybody else got them. I don't think he suggested, at least I hope he's not suggesting that we obtained them illegally, because we certainly didn't. We're a law enforcement legal entity with broad subpoena power and we obtained them legally.
DOBBS: And you have no doubt that they will stand up in court?
WORTHY: I'm not worried about that at all.
DOBBS: All right. And the idea of the jury pool here, because of the notoriety of the mayor, he is a part of a -- he's a very prominent political family, including Congresswoman Kilpatrick, the head of the National Black Caucus --
WORTHY: Yes.
DOBBS: My gosh, how -- how can you find a jury pool that is not tainted by this case in Detroit?
WORTHY: Well, as you can imagine, this is not our first high- profile case.
DOBBS: Sure.
WORTHY: And I'm confident that we'll be able to find a jury right here within Wayne County. And if we can't, we'll have to deal with that in the future, but the law states that we have to try and seat a jury within that county, if we get that far. And I'm confident that we'll be able to do that.
DOBBS: And how soon do you expect to be at trial?
WORTHY: You know, it's hard to say. We received an examination date, today, of June the ninth. I anticipate that that may take a little bit of time. And here we have a 91-day track, and that means that within 91 days after the arraignment on the information, we expect this case to be tried. So, it should be fairly quickly. But, of course, I can't guarantee when it will be tried.
DOBBS: Kym Worthy, thank you very much, for being with us. We appreciate it. Wayne County prosecutor, Kym Worthy.
Also tonight I'll be talking about Detroit radio talk show host, who's long followed the career of the mayor. She's among three of the best radio talk show hosts who will join me here next.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/25/ldt.01.html
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May 13, 1:07 PM EDT
Detroit council takes step toward mayor's ouster
By COREY WILLIAMS
Associated Press Writer
DETROIT (AP) -- The Detroit City Council has taken the first step toward removing Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick over a scandal involving explicit text messages to his former aide.
The council's 5-4 vote Tuesday begins a process aimed at removing Kilpatrick. Council members also voted to ask Gov. Jennifer Granholm to remove the mayor and voted to publicly censure him.
A message seeking comment has been left with a Kilpatrick spokeswoman. The mayor's office has said the council's actions are politically motivated.
The text messages between the mayor and former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty were revealed earlier this year. The two had testified during a whistleblowers' lawsuit that they did not have a romantic relationship.
Prosecutors have charged the two with perjury and obstruction of justice.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DETROIT_MAYOR?refresh=1
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Kilpatrick faces more accusations of infidelity; charges may be revised
By Joe Swickard, Jim Schaefer and M.L. Elrick • Free Press staff writers • July 7, 2008
Armed with newly obtained text messages, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy is poised to accuse Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick of cheating on his wife with multiple women in an expansion of the perjury case against him, Worthy’s office confirmed Monday.
The decision, mentioned briefly in a court hearing last Thursday, suggests that Worthy is prepared to aggressively rebut a campaign by defense attorneys to discredit text message evidence compiled against the mayor.
Attorney Len Niehoff, who teaches evidence at the University of Michigan Law School, said accusing Kilpatrick of lying about affairs with women besides former aide Christine Beatty could improve Worthy’s chances of winning a conviction.
So far, the only perjury charge against Kilpatrick dealing with infidelity accuses him of lying about sex with Beatty. He did so while under oath during a police whistle-blower case last year.
“If he in fact made statements that indicated that he had not engaged in any extramarital affairs and there are text messages indicating that he did, those would be allegedly perjurious as well,” Niehoff said. “I think what Kym Worthy is trying to do is simply make sure that the charge is broad enough to correspond with all the evidence that she anticipates presenting to the jury.”
A Free Press review on Monday of Kilpatrick’s trial testimony found that, in addition to denying an affair with Beatty, the mayor denied having sex with an unidentified Jamaican woman at a barbershop. One of the mayor’s former bodyguards had also accused him of meeting a woman at the Lofts apartments in Detroit for a late-night liaison. Kilpatrick was not asked directly about that allegation at trial.
The Free Press review did not find any blanket denials of affairs by the mayor.
Peter Henning, a Wayne State University law professor and former federal prosecutor, said prosecutors will need to find such testimony to have any chance of making the charges stick.
“He’s not charged with having an affair, he’s charged with lying,” Henning said. “They’re going to have to identify the question and answer. They’re going to have to link it up with false statements he made.”
He said prosecutors can’t use the allegation just to “show he’s a bad guy.”
Henning said prosecutors also might have trouble getting the evidence admitted.
“It is a risk,” he said.
Kilpatrick attorney James Thomas said Monday he was disappointed by the prosecution’s conduct, but declined to comment on the possibility of changes in the charges against the mayor.
Beatty’s defense attorney, Mayer Morganroth, called remarks made in court Thursday by Assistant Prosecutor Robert Moran “outrageous” because the defense hasn’t seen or assessed the evidence that formed the basis for his accusations.
Morganroth also said the contents of sensitive text messages collected by prosecutors were supposed to remain private until District Judge Ronald Giles rules on whether to make the messages part of the public court file.
“But they don’t even care,” Morganroth said of prosecutors. “They just want to get stuff out there any way they can to taint the jury. It’s outrageous but they do it anyway, whether it’s true or not, whether the information is privileged or whether it’s sealed or not.”
Kilpatrick faces a number of felony charges for, among other things, lying while under oath last summer when he denied having an affair with Beatty. That charge will be amended to indicate that Kilpatrick lied about his relationships with Beatty “and others,” said Maria Miller, spokeswoman for the Prosecutor’s Office.
Miller wouldn’t commit to a timetable for the amended charge, but said, “It will happen in the near future.”
Evidence of additional extramarital affairs involving Kilpatrick came from his own text messages, which reveal Kilpatrick had relationships with women besides his wife and Beatty, Miller said.
Prosecutors have obtained more than five years of the mayor’s messages as part of their criminal investigation.
Miller said there will be no new people charged in the investigation “at this time.”
Moran raised the possibility that other women would become part of the prosecution’s case almost as an aside Thursday as he argued that prosecutors should be allowed to publicly file court documents that included hundreds of previously undisclosed text messages.
Moran said most of the new messages went to heart of the existing charges of perjury, conspiracy and misconduct in office against Kilpatrick.
“I’ll put the defense on notice, we’re about to file an amended warrant and complaint to amend the counts that relate to conspiracy as it relates to testimony about having a sexual relationship with the codefendant,” Moran said. “We’re going to amend to add the language ‘and others.’ We’ve uncovered other evidence.”
On Monday, prosecutors filed the contested motion containing a stack of text messages for Giles’ inspection to determine whether the contents can be made public. Giles said he’d announce his decision July 14.
It is not known what messages are included with the proposed motion.
In opposing the proposed motion, defense attorneys contend the messages were obtained in violation of federal laws and would invade the privacy of people not directly involved in the Kilpatrick-Beatty criminal case.
But Moran said the new messages are relevant and should be open because they will help authenticate the text messages at the center of the perjury case — messages that defense lawyers have suggested publicly are not authentic.
When the Free Press broke the text message scandal in January, it released the contents of some messages showing that Kilpatrick and Beatty lied under oath.
Kilpatrick and Beatty were charged with perjury and official misconduct after the Free Press published the excerpts.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys argued heatedly Thursday whether the motion and new text messages can be part of the open court file without violating Kilpatrick’s and Beatty’s right to fair trials.
Moran told Giles that contested evidence is used every day in 36th District Court preliminary hearings to determine whether defendants will face trial. A circuit court judge routinely decides whether the disputed evidence will be in, he said.
Even so, Moran said that the pending motion will pass the test: “It’s not going to be suppressed. It’s coming in. … A jury’s going to see all the text messages."
Worthy said in a prepared statement Monday: “If ever there was a time for transparency in Detroit, the time is now. We have said from the beginning that we want this case to be treated as any other. We are litigating a criminal case; there should be no special arrangements because of the parties involved. In any other case there would be a public filing; this case should be no different.”
Jim Parkman, another of Kilpatrick’s lawyers, has said if the mayor’s case has gotten “special treatment in the state of Michigan, please don’t give me any more of it.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080707/NEWS01/80707084/1001/NEWS
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Why is this clown still mayor?
Detroit mayor arrives at jail
DETROIT, Michigan (CNN) -- Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was jailed Thursday after a judge found he had violated terms of his bond by taking an unauthorized trip to Canada last month.
Kilpatrick, who is facing felony charges of perjury, obstruction of justice and misconduct of office, had been free on $75,000 bond.
Wayne County Sheriff Warren Evans told reporters the mayor will be treated like any other high-profile inmate at the jail. Measures will be taken to ensure his security as well as that of other inmates at the facility, the sheriff added.
Kilpatrick will be held in a restricted area where no one except deputies will be allowed to have close contact with him, the sheriff said.
The mayor has been snarled in a public scandal since January, when the Detroit Free Press reported that he had exchanged romantic text messages with his former chief of staff, Christine Beatty, indicating the two were involved in an affair.
He and Beatty, testifying last fall in a whistle-blower trial, had denied they had been having an affair.
Kilpatrick attorney Jim Parkman said an immediate appeal of the mayor's jailing is planned. A hearing on the appeal has been scheduled Friday, the Detroit Free Press reported.
Parkman noted that Kilpatrick's trip "wasn't a personal trip over there to go to Caesar's Palace and play" but for Detroit business. "He believes it was the right thing to do, and on the spur of the moment, he just went," Parkman told reporters.
Kilpatrick visited Windsor, Ontario, on July 23 to discuss with Windsor's mayor a plan to sell Detroit's half of the tunnel connecting the two cities, according to the Free Press. See how close the two cities are »
Under terms of his bond, Kilpatrick was required to give the court 48 hours' notice for business travel, District Court Judge Ronald Giles noted Thursday.
Kilpatrick apologized for the trip, telling Giles his first priority was taking care of the city.
"I guess the problem I'm having is, I don't think there's too much of anything you do alone," Giles told Kilpatrick. "And even on that day, it's not that you got a telephone call, jumped in your SUV and drove across the bridge or the tunnel. You go to the phone. You made several telephone calls.
"You had to call security. You had to contact the deputy mayor and executive assistant. You had to make arrangements," Giles said. "You don't do anything without making arrangements, and one of those arrangements has to be in relationship to this court." Watch the judge order Kilpatrick to jail »
The judge said that last week, in addressing another violation by Kilpatrick, he had made it clear: "Don't come back."
"What matters to me is how the court is perceived," Giles said. "And if it was not Kwame Kilpatrick sitting in that seat, if it was John Six-Pack sitting in that seat, what would I do? And there the answer is simple, so I'm going to go back to my original 'keep it simple' ... anybody else sitting in that chair, that's exactly what would happen."
Parkman said he was not surprised by the judge's ruling.
"It did not come as a shock," he said. "The judge, I would say, is his own man." Watch what else Parkman had to say »
Wayne County Attorney Kym Worthy issued a statement saying she thinks Giles took appropriate action, "considering (Kilpatrick's) most recent behavior. Judge Giles treated this defendant as any other defendant would have been treated."
Earlier Thursday, Kilpatrick and Beatty waived their preliminary examination and agreed that the case could be forwarded to Wayne County Circuit Court's Criminal Division.
Beatty, who resigned her post after the text messages were made public, is also facing charges. If convicted, both face a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison. Kilpatrick has rejected calls from critics that he resign.
The city said in a statement that the government will continue to function as normal, with a deputy mayor in charge.
"It's very unfortunate," said Kenneth Cockrel Jr., president of the Detroit City Council and one of Kilpatrick's critics. "It's another sad chapter in an ongoing saga which I hope can be brought to a close soon. It's not good for the city of Detroit, it's not good for the southeastern Michigan region, it's not good for the entire state."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/07/mayor.jailed/index.html
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I am appalled at this democrat:
Port Arthur Police Arrest A Former Justice Of The Peace
Port Arthur police arrested former Jefferson County Justice of the Peace Thurman Bartie Wednesday night around 10. They say Bartie violated a city ordinance by walking in the middle of a road where a sidewalk is provided. Sergeant Ben Smith tells KBTV-4 that Bartie had been walking down the middle of the 1100 block of Procter while carrying a large stick. Smith says the 53-year-old was taken into custody without incident, and taken to the Jefferson County Jail.
http://setxhomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=7975
What democrat scum this guy is!
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Ha ha. :) He can't hold Kwame's jock. He needs to go break a few more laws, lie, cheat, etc., and then we can get a little upset.
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Ha ha. :) He can't hold Kwame's jock. He needs to go break a few more laws, lie, cheat, etc., and then we can get a little upset.
Beachy, ...I know you love political sex scandals, ...but I didn't expect you'd write a song and post it on youtube
Beach Bum finally outted
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I didn't watch. What does it say? Does it talk about why Kwame is still mayor of Detroit?
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Free Kwame!
Aug 8, 3:18 AM EDT
Detroit mayor's lawyers seek to free him from jail
By ED WHITE and COREY WILLIAMS
Associated Press Writers
DETROIT (AP) -- Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick spent the night in a one-man jail cell with no TV and a phone only for collect calls, the consequence of violating his bond in a criminal case that has dogged him for months.
His legal problems could get much worse.
State police have wrapped up their investigation of a confrontation between Kilpatrick and a sheriff's detective who claims he was pushed while recently trying to serve a subpoena on the mayor's friend.
Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox scheduled a news conference Friday morning to announce the results. Kilpatrick's legal team was not optimistic, predicting that some kind of charge was a "done deal."
"If they want to bring the charges, let's go. It's the only way to get it resolved," defense attorney Jim Parkman said.
Separately, the mayor and a former top aide are charged with perjury, misconduct and obstruction of justice, all tied to their testimony in a civil trial last year. At the heart of the case: steamy text messages contradicting their claim that they didn't have a romantic relationship.
Kilpatrick had paid $7,500 - 10 percent of his bond in the perjury case - to remain free while that case moves through court, along with other conditions, including notifying the court about leaving the state on city business.
He acknowledged violating that term when he visited Windsor, Ontario - minutes away from Detroit - on July 23 to discuss the sale of the city's portion of a tunnel connecting the U.S. and Canada. He didn't call prosecutors or the court.
"I'm asking for another chance," the mayor pleaded Thursday to District Judge Ronald Giles.
The judge's response was swift and surprising: Jail for the leader of the country's 11th-largest city.
"I don't claim to have a good understanding of what your responsibilities are. ... But I have to look at how the (court) system is run and perceived by the public," Giles told Kilpatrick.
Circuit Judge Thomas E. Jackson said he would hear an appeal of the order Friday morning.
Defense attorney Jim Thomas called Giles' ruling "extreme." Parkman said they would propose an electronic tether or some other conditions to get Kilpatrick out of jail.
The mayor was transported to jail in a sheriff's van, photographed, given a green jumpsuit and placed in a one-man cell for high-profile people.
Although not in the general jail population, Kilpatrick was being treated like any other prisoner - "no better, no worse," Sheriff Warren Evans said.
Earlier Thursday, Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty waived their right to a preliminary exam in the perjury case. That means those charges now go directly to Wayne County Circuit Court. Arraignment was set for Aug. 14. Both deny the charges.
Deputy Mayor Kandia Milton is running the city while Kilpatrick is in jail.
"Detroit's government will continue to operate as usual. ... Trash will continue to be collected, recreation centers will remain open, grass will be cut and fires will be extinguished," a statement from the mayor's office said.
Kilpatrick has resisted calls for his resignation or a plea bargain as his legal woes pile up.
City Council President Ken Cockrel Jr. would succeed Kilpatrick if the mayor resigns or is forced from office.
In May, the Detroit City Council asked Gov. Jennifer Granholm to invoke a little-used state law and remove Kilpatrick from office for misconduct. A hearing is scheduled for Sept. 3.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DETROIT_MAYOR_CHARGES?SITE=HIHAD&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Detroit mayor faces new charges after night in jail
DETROIT, Michigan (CNN) -- After spending a night in jail, Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick faces new felony charges even as a judge ruled Friday that he could go free if he wears a tracking device and doesn't leave town.
Kilpatrick's lawyers are negotiating his surrender on charges of assaulting or obstructing two police officers who attempted to serve a subpoena, Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox said.
If convicted, Kilpatrick could face up to two years in prison, Cox told reporters. He also would be unable to serve as mayor.
"In almost 20 years as a prosecutor and now as attorney general, I cannot recall one case where someone has assaulted a police officer who was attempting to serve a subpoena," Cox said.
Kilpatrick's latest legal skirmish began July 24 when two officers attempted to serve a subpoena on a friend who was a potential witness in Kilpatrick's pending perjury case, Cox said. He alleged that an "irate and angry" Kilpatrick grabbed one of the officers and shoved him into the other, screaming at both of them and using abusive language.
One of the mayor's lawyers, James Thomas, told reporters he would fight the new charges with "law and common sense."
Earlier, a Wayne County Circuit Court judge ruled Kilpatrick could be released from jail if he posted a $50,000 cash bond, wore a GPS device and didn't travel outside the Detroit area.
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/mayor.jailed/index.html
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Judge: Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to Stand Trial in Assault Case
Friday, August 15, 2008
DETROIT — A judge ruled Friday there is enough evidence for Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to stand trial on two felony assault charges stemming from a confrontation with two investigators.
The investigators testified that an angry Kilpatrick shoved one of them into the other and made racial remarks while they were trying to deliver a subpoena in the mayor's perjury case to a Kilpatrick friend last month.
Judge Ronald Giles made the ruling after hearing several hours of testimony and arguments in 36th District Court. The mayor remains free on bond ahead of an Aug. 22 arraignment in Wayne County Circuit Court.
The judge said there was no question the mayor was aware that Wayne County sheriff's Detective Brian White and county prosecutor's investigator JoAnn Kinney were there to perform official business.
White says the mayor shoved him into Kinney when he was trying to deliver the subpoena.
"It's clear Kilpatrick knew who Detective White was. He had previous contact with him through his other case," Giles said in his ruling. "He specifically called him by name in this case."
Kilpatrick's attorneys have denied an assault took place. It was the mayor's third day in court this week related to his legal troubles. Kilpatrick's wife, Carlita, also was in court for Friday's hearing.
Kilpatrick and his former top aide, Christine Beatty, were charged in March with conspiracy, perjury, obstruction of justice and misconduct in office, mostly tied to their testimony in a civil trial.
Sexually explicit text messages between the pair, published by the Detroit Free Press in January, contradict their denial of an affair, a key point in the trial last year involving a former deputy police chief.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404785,00.html
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He promises not to run for reelection?? lol . . . Wouldn't surprise me if he ran and won. ::)
Aug 31, 11:34 AM EDT
Report: Detroit mayor's lawyers offered plea deal
By COREY WILLIAMS
Associated Press Writer
DETROIT (AP) -- Lawyers for Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick have proposed a deal in which he would plead guilty to two felonies, make restitution and serve five years' probation in exchange for avoiding jail time, a newspaper reported Sunday.
The Detroit Free Press quoted "a source familiar with all aspects of the negotiations" as saying Kilpatrick's legal team also said he would give up his law license, not run for office for two years and do 300 hours of community service.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy hadn't yet accepted the offer, the newspaper said.
A person briefed on the talks told The Associated Press on Sunday that the prosecutor's office would not agree to any type of plea that doesn't involve jail time. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because of not wanting to publicly reveal specifics of the talks.
One Kilpatrick lawyer, James Thomas, told AP on Sunday morning that he had been out of town for a few days and was unaware of the plea deal proposal. He said that even if he had been aware of it he couldn't comment on it.
Kilpatrick, 38 and in his second four-year term as mayor, is charged with 10 felonies in two cases. He also faces removal proceedings set to begin Wednesday before Gov. Jennifer Granholm.
The newspaper said the mayor would turn over his state pension to the city. Kilpatrick is a former member of the state House, where he was leader of the Democratic minority. It said he also would make at least $100,000 in restitution.
The newspaper said that in a letter to Worthy, Kilpatrick's lawyers proposed having a neutral "legal statesman" assess the offer. It didn't identity the lawyers.
On Tuesday, Wayne County Circuit Judge Robert Ziolkowski is expected to decide whether to grant Kilpatrick's request to postpone the hearing before Granholm.
The Detroit City Council is asking Granholm to use her constitutional power to remove Kilpatrick from office. It says the mayor misled council members into approving an $8.4 million settlement with fired police officers in a whistle-blowers' lawsuit. The council says it didn't know the deal included provisions to keep a cover on romantic text messages between Kilpatrick and his top aide.
Kilpatrick also would be forced from office if convicted of a felony in either of the two criminal cases.
In the first case, he and ex-top aide Christine Beatty are charged with perjury, conspiracy, misconduct and obstruction of justice. They are accused of lying during the 2007 whistle-blowers' trial about having an extramarital affair and their roles in the firing of a deputy police chief.
Text messages from Beatty's city-issued pager contradicted their testimony.
The other charges against the mayor stem from a confrontation in July. A sheriff's detective says Kilpatrick shoved him into another investigator as they were attempting to serve a subpoena on a friend of the mayor for the perjury case.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DETROIT_MAYOR?refresh=1
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Sep 3, 11:17 AM EDT
Governor's hearing to remove Detroit mayor begins
By ED WHITE and COREY WILLIAMS
Associated Press Writers
DETROIT (AP) -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm opened an extraordinary hearing Wednesday to determine whether Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick committed misconduct and should be removed from office in a scandal over steamy text messages and a multimillion-dollar legal settlement.
Granholm gave brief opening remarks after Kilpatrick's lawyers failed the day before to persuade courts to stop the hearing, which drew members of the public as early as sunrise to a state office building.
Granholm will hear evidence over allegations by the Detroit City Council that Kilpatrick mislead it when it approved an $8.4 million settlement with fired police officers. Council members say they didn't know the deal also covered up steamy text messages between Kilpatrick and his top aide, Christine Beatty, on city-issued pagers.
Michigan governors have a constitutional authority to remove elected officials for misconduct, but the target never has been the leader of the state's largest city. The hearing is expected to last several days.
"The burden of proof is sufficient evidence satisfactory to the governor," Granholm said in her remarks. "This is not a criminal trial. This is not a civil trial."
Kilpatrick skipped the hearing. His attorney, Sharon McPhail, attacked council members who asked for the removal hearing, saying they are Kilpatrick's political rivals. She said it was city lawyers who settled the case with former police officers, not the mayor.
"It's too stupid to be plausible" that Kilpatrick had a secret pact to cover up embarrassing text messages, McPhail said.
She warned the governor that removing the mayor would have a chilling effect on officials statewide. The last time a Michigan governor considered the removal of an elected official was in 1982. In that case, Gov. William Milliken found a township official guilty of official misconduct but let him stay in office if he stopped drinking.
Besides the removal hearing, Kilpatrick faces 10 felonies in two criminal cases.
Granholm, a fellow Democrat, has pared the case to two issues: Did Kilpatrick settle the lawsuits for personal gain because he feared release of the text messages and did he conceal information from the City Council.
Kilpatrick's legal team has criticized Granholm, claiming her opinion on the mayor's future is clouded by her role in trying to broker a settlement in his criminal case in May. Resignation apparently was on the table.
"I listed the positions of the parties on a blackboard and suggested a path that was a compromise," Granholm said in an affidavit. "I made it clear that this suggestion was intended solely as a device to begin their discussion."
The Michigan Court of Appeals found nothing sinister Tuesday.
The removal hearing is just one of three legal minefields for Kilpatrick. He also faces 10 felonies in two criminal cases in Wayne County Circuit Court.
After the Detroit Free Press published the text messages earlier this year, Kilpatrick and Beatty were charged with perjury, conspiracy, misconduct and obstruction of justice.
They are accused of lying during the 2007 whistle-blowers' trial about having an extramarital affair and their roles in the firing of a deputy police chief.
Two assault charges against the mayor stem from a confrontation in July. A sheriff's detective says Kilpatrick shoved him into another investigator as they were attempting to serve a subpoena to the mayor's friend in the perjury case.
Despite his courtroom losses Tuesday, the mayor did get a small victory: A judge said he could stop wearing an electronic tether that keeps track of his whereabouts. Travel restrictions that keep Kilpatrick in the metro Detroit area won't change.
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And so saga of this sorry failure ends. Good riddance. I give the next governor or mayor about a month or two to create the next scandal. :-\
Big news out of Detroit
Embattled and scandal-plagued Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has agreed to step down as mayor of Detroit as part of a plea deal where he admitted to lying under oath.
From the Detroit News:
In four short words, Mayor Kwame M. Kilpatrick acknowledged his guilt this morning, admitting that he lied during the whistleblower case brought by two former police officers who claimed they were punished for looking into wrongdoing by the mayor's staff.
"I lied under oath," Kilpatrick said after he pleaded guilty to two felonies, a plea that will require him to spend four months in the Wayne County jail, to resign his office and to pay $1 million in restitution.
Kilpatrick will also agree not to seek office during the five years he is on probation and will surrender his state pension to the county. He will also surrender his law license.
"We did not give an inch," said Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, who said the deal is what she had sought "pretty much" from the beginning. She said Kilpatrick will enter the jail when he is sentenced, scheduled for Oct. 28.
In exchange for his guilty pleas, Wayne County prosecutors will drop the remaining six charges against him -- including the perjury counts -- and agree to not prosecute him for other issues that arise from the investigation into the perjury and obstruction of justice case.
Kwame Kilpatrick is the son of Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-Mich), the chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus. She barely won the Democratic primary last month against two opponents who made her son's ethical problems the centerpiece of their campaigns.
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Kilpatrick's swagger gone as he nears exit
Here, there, but rarely in the office
BY M.L. ELRICK and JIM SCHAEFER • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS • September 18, 2008
As speculation grows on where Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick will go after his scandalous tenure ends today, questions remain about where he has been since becoming Detroit's first chief executive to cop felony pleas while in office.
Unlike his predecessor, Dennis Archer, who came to city hall and worked from his desk until his last day in office, Kilpatrick has not been seen much in the Coleman A. Young Municipal Center.
When Kilpatrick has been spotted over the last two weeks -- grabbing a public elevator outside his office or picking up sandwiches at a downtown Quiznos -- the sartorial splendor he was known for was gone. The snazzy suits he wore to work and court were replaced by the kind of casual duds he used to wear for courtside appearances at Detroit Pistons games.
Kilpatrick's transition from office also was different from Archer's in the amount of time he spent with his successor. While Archer had three face-to-face meetings with then Mayor-elect Kilpatrick, outgoing Mayor Kilpatrick has had only one brief meeting with incoming Mayor Ken Cockrel Jr. Cockrel, the City Council president, said Wednesday that he and Kilpatrick also had a phone conversation.
Still, the final days of the Kilpatrick administration could not be more different from its beginning.
Ebullient and outgoing early on -- even seeming to relish verbal jousts with reporters -- Kilpatrick has become withdrawn.
The once ubiquitous Kilpatrick has not had a public appearance since noon July 24, when he attended a ceremonial groundbreaking for the Paradise Valley entertainment district envisioned for Harmonie Park.
That event occurred just four hours before Kilpatrick shoved a Wayne County sheriff's detective looking to serve a subpoena on mayoral friend Bobby Ferguson, who also is a controversial city contractor and witness in a criminal case against Kilpatrick.
Kilpatrick spokesman James Canning has acknowledged that the mayor has not been in the office every day.
"As the mayor of Detroit, you're always the mayor," Canning said. "Whether you're in the office or off-site. Therefore, he's always been working."
Canning would not say where Kilpatrick, who must vacate the city-owned Manoogian Mansion by the end of today, is moving.
The mayor was spotted Tuesday night looking at an apartment near downtown.
In addition to directing his appointees to work with Cockrel's people on the transition, Canning said Kilpatrick has been "attending to the needs of his family and their transition as well."
There also have been legal matters.
On Sept. 4, the day he submitted a resignation letter designating today as his last official day as mayor, he resolved the criminal charges against him by pleading guilty to two felonies of obstructing justice in relation to the text message scandal the Free Press exposed in January, and pleading no contest to a felony assault charge for shoving the detective.
On Tuesday, Kilpatrick spent about three hours in law offices where he gave a deposition as part of a lawsuit the Free Press filed against the city after it denied the newspaper's Freedom of Information request for more documents related to text messages sent on city-issued pagers.
And on Monday, after stopping in to see his lawyer, James Thomas, Kilpatrick joked with the women making the mesquite chicken and honey mustard turkey sandwiches he ordered at the Quiznos in the Buhl Building.
One of the women, Angela Kellar, said she greeted him, "Hi, Kwame."
"I thought to say, 'Mayor,' " she said, "but I can't say mayor because he's Kwame now."
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Oct 28, 6:22 PM EDT
Detroit's ex-Mayor Kilpatrick jailed for 4 months
By COREY WILLIAMS and ED WHITE
Associated Press Writers
DETROIT (AP) -- Kwame Kilpatrick was sent to jail for four months Tuesday for his part in a sex-and-text scandal and the judge chastised the disgraced ex-mayor for arrogance and disregard for the rule of law.
Wayne County Circuit Judge David Groner's sentence was the finale to the scandal that destroyed Kilpatrick's reign at City Hall and threw local government into disarray for months.
"At a time when this city needed transparency, accountability and responsibility, you exhibited hubris and privilege at the expense of the city," the judge said.
He ruled that Kilpatrick not be given an opportunity for early release.
But county sheriff's spokesman John Roach said in a subsequent statement that Groner didn't have the standing to order Kilpatrick not receive time off for good behavior.
The judge's ruling "does not override Michigan Statute that says a sheriff shall credit all sentenced county jail inmates with one day good time for every five days served, provided the individual is a model inmate," Roach said.
Kilpatrick, 38, pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice, admitting he lied about an affair with his chief of staff while testifying in a civil lawsuit in 2007. He also pleaded no contest to assaulting a sheriff's detective.
He was ordered to serve five years of probation and pay the city $1 million in restitution. Kilpatrick paid $20,000 to the City of Detroit on Tuesday as his downpayment on the restitution.
Groner had harsh words for Kilpatrick when he laid down the sentence.
"Ultimately what shocked this court and much of the community was your press conference after your plea hearing," the judge said. "That night, the community expected to hear a message of humility, remorse and apology. Instead, we heard an arrogant and defiant man who accused the governor, among others, for his downfall."
Kilpatrick declined an offer to address the court
Groner moved the hearing to a larger courtroom to accommodate the news media and spectators. As he waited for the sentencing hearing to begin, Kilpatrick sat back with an arm around his wife, Carlita. The ex-mayor smiled often and chatted with other family members and supporters seated nearby.
But once the hearing began, Kilpatrick's demeanor changed. At times, he was seen burying his head in his hands.
It was Kilpatrick's first public forum since the speech to supporters - referenced by the judge Tuesday - after his guilty plea Sept. 4. In that address, Kilpatrick lashed out at Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who was holding hearings to remove him from office, and told Detroit, "You done set me up for a comeback."
His next stop is the Wayne County jail, where he will be in his own cell 23 hours a day. He will not be allowed to mix with other inmates during his one hour of recreation.
Kilpatrick, a Democrat, admitted lying while testifying last year in a civil lawsuit filed by former police officers who had accused him of illegally demoting or firing them.
He and chief of staff Christine Beatty denied having an affair, but text messages obtained by a lawyer in the case - and later the Detroit Free Press - clearly contradicted them.
They used their city pagers to arrange trysts and share sexually explicit desires. A fresh batch of messages was released last week, revealing that Kilpatrick, married with three children, likely had other lovers.
The messages first were publicly disclosed in January by the Free Press. Beatty quickly resigned but Kilpatrick hung on as mayor, even when prosecutors filed criminal charges against the pair in March.
The saga rolled through spring and summer as Kilpatrick hired a team of lawyers and public-image specialists and publicly ridiculed the case against him.
The City Council voted to hold impeachment-style hearings but a judge said it was illegal. Elected officials called on Kilpatrick to step down for the sake of the entire state.
Finally, he agreed to plead guilty and resign only after the governor began the public hearing in September that could have led to his ouster.
Ken Cockrel Jr. was promoted to mayor from council president. A special election to fill the balance of Kilpatrick's term will be held in May after the field is trimmed to two candidates Feb. 24.
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