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Abd how many still compete today?
Mike
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Abd how many still compete today?
Mike
"Abd" ???
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Easy:
Toney Freeman, USA
Gustavo Badell, USA
Phil Heath, USA
Silvio Samuel, USA
Troy Alves, USA
Eddie Abbew, UK
Khalid Almohsinawi, USA
Ray Arde, USA
David Henry, USA
Rusty Jeffers, USA
Ken Jones, USA
King Kamali, USA
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mike christian , both quinn's, thats all i know
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mike christian, gary strydom, aaron baker, jim quinn, mike quinn, lex lugar??
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Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson,Eddie Robinson, and Troy Zuccolotto.
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"Abd" ???
Sorry, I meant "and".
Can you name any?
Mike
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Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson,Eddie Robinson, and Troy Zuccolotto.
All except Morant and Lugar
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you sure about morant
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ferrigno actually signed a contract and then backed out......
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ferrigno actually signed a contract and then backed out......
best chris farley impression,"That is correct."
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ferrigno actually signed a contract and then backed out......
Correct...he thought the forthcoming Master's O was tailor-made for him. Robby showed him otherwise.
Mike
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Correct...he thought the forthcoming Master's O was tailor-made for him. Robby showed him otherwise.
Big Lou's not one to cry over spilt milk.
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Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson,Eddie Robinson, and Troy Zuccolotto.
Add Jim and Mike Quinn, and the still-competing Strydom, and there you are!
Mike
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Big Lou's not one to cry over spilt milk.
I read that at that inaugural master's Olympia, Ferrigno was SO PISSED that he lost, he just kept walking around the lobby of the contest site, stating loudly, "I was fu--ing robbed..."
Steve Wineberger, never one to be intimidated, was one of the judges, and, when Ferrigno diurected his ire at him, Steve convinced Lou to "check himself".
Mike
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Add Jim and Mike Quinn, and the still-competing Strydom, and there you are!
Mike
see my first post brutha
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Add Jim and Mike Quinn, and the still-competing Strydom, and there you are!
Mike
Oh...and add Aaron Baker...that makes the 12!
Mike
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see my first post brutha
Oops...sorry...you got 'em.
Mike
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#13
Mike Dusa, chiroquacktor extraordinaire
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Oops...sorry...you got 'em.
Mike
;D i got yo back moose
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#13
Mike Dusa, chiroquacktor extraordinaire
I'd prefer, "Wealthy chiroquacktor extraordinaire.... :)
Mike
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I'd prefer, "Wealthy chiroquacktor extraordinaire.... :)
Mike
Ah of course, I forgot that 90% of getbiggers are wealthier than a Saudi prince ::)
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Ah of course, I forgot that 90% of getbiggers are wealthier than a Saudi prince ::)
Whatever, dude.
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;D i got yo back moose
You are a soldier and a gentleman, ChinoXL
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Whatever, dude.
Whoa, calm down there, cupcake. I'm not the one going around bragging about being "wealthy" ::)
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You are a sailor and a gentleman, ChinoXL
Fixed, but thanks just da same.
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Abd
WTF?! ??? ??? ???
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WTF?! ??? ??? ???
Yeah that's pretty weird, huh? I still can't figure this moose clown out. What a tool.
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Aaron Baker, Mike Christian, Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson, Jim Quinn, Mike Quinn, Eddie Robinson, Gary Strydom, and Troy Zuccolotto.
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Whoa, calm down there, cupcake. I'm not the one going around bragging about being "wealthy" ::)
Yeah, true. But you are never serious and call others crude names. Calling me a quack or whatever...friend, do you not expect retorts?
Mike
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WTF?! ??? ??? ???
Yes....a monolithic tragedy....spelled a word wrong...add something postive, Matt C...you have shown yourself as an intelligent one in the past.
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Yeah that's pretty weird, huh? I still can't figure this moose clown out. What a tool.
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Aaron Baker, Mike Christian, Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson, Jim Quinn, Mike Quinn, Eddie Robinson, Gary Strydom, and Troy Zuccolotto.
Right...that makes 13, which is the correct number. Very good!
Mike
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Yeah, true. But you are never serious and call others crude names. Calling me a quack or whatever...friend, do you not expect retorts?
Mike
I've tried to be civil with you, I really have. But you insist on insulting me and my bros on here, so what should I do, sit back and take it? ::)
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I've tried to be civil with you, I really have. But you insist on insulting me and my bros on here, so what should I do, sit back and take it? ::)
I will truce with you guys....although I am not given to insulting anyone unless provoked.
I am an old man...please have lenience on me :)
Mike
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Aaron Baker, Mike Christian, Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson, Jim Quinn, Mike Quinn, Eddie Robinson, Gary Strydom, and Troy Zuccolotto.
I got both shows on VHS (ordered them on pay-per view if i remember correctly)
also got the magazines (WBF) and watched all the tv shows back in the day (WBF body stars?)
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I got both shows on VHS (ordered them on pay-per view if i remember correctly)
also got the magazines (WBF) and watched all the tv shows back in the day (WBF body stars?)
Mike...for the second show, do the videos show how bad most of them looked because they had to get off the sauce?
Mike
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Mike...for the second show, do the videos show how bad most of them looked because they had to get off the sauce?
Mike
Yes and the videos are on youtube somewhere.
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Yeah that's pretty weird, huh? I still can't figure this moose clown out. What a tool.
He has a terminal disease, so keep cool, "Panda-e-monium".
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Mike...for the second show, do the videos show how bad most of them looked because they had to get off the sauce?
Mike
im sorry to say..................... ..yes
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Mike says he might be competing in May this year!
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im sorry to say..................... ..yes
And that second show of the guys off the sauce was horrible.
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Gary Strydom still looked good in that second show (1992) ,1991 was the first show i believe
Strydom was just about the only one who did look good
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even there magazine sucked but it actually was probably one of the first magazines to show the bbers pale and smooth and in most cases offseason condition,probably due to the fact they had no other pics to use because they were now vinces boys.and getting acess to musclemag or flex pics was a no/no.
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ferrigno actually signed a contract and then backed out......
actually he tried to get 20 bucks from the photographer who was shooting the press release picture for a magazine and got mad and quit when he wouldn't pay it.
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The first show, the top 5 guys all looked good, Strydom, Christian, DeMay, Jim Quinn and Ed Robinson-I think that was the top 5. Ferrigno signed and it was big news in BB. McMahon got busted for roids and decided the next WBF show would be tested I guess at the meeting where he announced it Strydom stood up and said he wasn't afraid and was still gonna win or something like that. Ferrigno bailed and the show went on. Second show Strydom, Jim Quinn and Demay looked pretty good, Dave Dearth and Aaron Baker looked really good. Christian fell waaay off but I think he had problems with coke at that time. The rest of the guys fell off as well.
I heard that wieder told alot of the mags a the time that if they covered the WBF's second show that they would not be allowed into IFBB shows afterwards so that didn't help matters.....
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Correct...he thought the forthcoming Master's O was tailor-made for him. Robby showed him otherwise.
Mike
This is incorrect. Ferrigno signed a contract late '91, and then backed out in '92 when the drug testing hammer dropped. This allowed him to compete in the '92 Olympia where he placed 12th. He again competed in the '93 Olympia with a gift 10th placing. He didn't compete in (and lose) the Master's Olympia until 1994.
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This is incorrect. Ferrigno signed a contract late '91, and then backed out in '92 when the drug testing hammer dropped. This allowed him to compete in the '92 Olympia where he placed 12th. He again competed in the '93 Olympia with a gift 10th placing. He didn't compete in (and lose) the Master's Olympia until 1994.
lou didn't look as good in that first masters O as he had in his previous 2 olympia outings plus he had those awsoem looking calf implants that probably didn't help matters.
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the second wbf show was the most stringently tested pro bbing show ever, yet strydom somehow beat the test...
i remember seeing some pics from lonnie's column in muscle mag of strydom actually off the sauce (having a break post wbf going defunct) and i couldn't believe my eyes. he looked like a skinny version of average joe walking down the street. seriously, nothing was there to even hint that he was a bber, never mind a pro bber.
i've got to give him credit though. he took a few pics at golds with him and his skinny (not even toned) arm doing a concentration curl with a 10lb dumbell.
when uncle schmoe gave him the green light to compete in the ifbb again, he started training with cormier and mcclinton and literally blew up to his former self within weeks.
i guess those pics pretty well convinced me that he used a few more supplements than the icopro that fred hatfield was pushing through the wbf at the time.
lugar, jim quinn and aaron baker also looked 'on' in that second contest.
very bad luck for the ifbb defectors because the feds were absolutely annihilating mcmahon and the wwf at the time and, as usual, the bbing show became the sacrificial lamb.
am i the only one who thinks that jew weider's very powerful supplement empire had something to do with the sudden interest in mcmahon???
seeing the pdi collapse almost as soon as it started brought back memories and i would like to point out here that none of those 13 came close to reaching their former glory attained in the ifbb. can anyone say, 'lee priest'?
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the second wbf show was the most stringently tested pro bbing show ever, yet strydom somehow beat the test...
i remember seeing some pics from lonnie's column in muscle mag of strydom actually off the sauce (having a break post wbf going defunct) and i couldn't believe my eyes. he looked like a skinny version of average joe walking down the street. seriously, nothing was there to even hint that he was a bber, never mind a pro bber.
i've got to give him credit though. he took a few pics at golds with him and his skinny (not even toned) arm doing a concentration curl with a 10lb dumbell.
when uncle schmoe gave him the green light to compete in the ifbb again, he started training with cormier and mcclinton and literally blew up to his former self within weeks.
i guess those pics pretty well convinced me that he used a few more supplements than the icopro that fred hatfield was pushing through the wbf at the time.
lugar, jim quinn and aaron baker also looked 'on' in that second contest.
very bad luck for the ifbb defectors because the feds were absolutely annihilating mcmahon and the wwf at the time and, as usual, the bbing show became the sacrificial lamb.
am i the only one who thinks that jew weider's very powerful supplement empire had something to do with the sudden interest in mcmahon???
seeing the pdi collapse almost as soon as it started brought back memories and i would like to point out here that none of those 13 came close to reaching their former glory attained in the ifbb. can anyone say, 'lee priest'?
DEMEY,BAKE,DEARTH did compete for a few yrs each after 92 debacle,baker reached his biggest and in shape during that run.demey done by 95,dearth well he has had ups and downs ...
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Out of all of them, Aaron Baker had the best run, coming 2nd to Flex at a Miami show. Dearth did an Olympia and place badly, Jim Quinn did a few placed respectably but as for Demey, Comerford and the rest they faded. Padilla was at the end of his career as I beleive he was in his 40's already.
Ironically Lugar looked the absolute biggest and best I had ever seen him. Supplemented to the gills, soon appeared as the Narcissist...
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Out of all of them, Aaron Baker had the best run, coming 2nd to Flex at a Miami show. Dearth did an Olympia and place badly, Jim Quinn did a few placed respectably but as for Demey, Comerford and the rest they faded. Padilla was at the end of his career as I beleive he was in his 40's already.
Ironically Lugar looked the absolute biggest and best I had ever seen him. Supplemented to the gills, soon appeared as the Narcissist...
comerford could have been that era's priest huge arms and thick about same height.problem was those guys were either veterans by then or really good up and comers and they risked it all,dumb decision in hindsight.
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Padilla was at the end of his career as I beleive he was in his 40's already.
The NOC that Momo won over Dorian could of been Padilla's...he came back and looked awesome there.
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comerford could have been that era's priest huge arms and thick about same height.problem was those guys were either veterans by then or really good up and comers and they risked it all,dumb decision in hindsight.
Very true njflex. To take it one step further, if the PDI has a similar calibre lineup they IMO wouldn't have failed so miserably.
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Very true njflex. To take it one step further, if the PDI has a similar calibre lineup they IMO wouldn't have failed so miserably.
the other problem and the same with wrestling personas at least some of them they gay it up or it is a corny stereotype of there personality,demey was james bond type ladies man,strydon with top hat and cane?the angel baker,christian dressed like a knight,major guns with bad props eddie robinson,on and on and on,....... eddie robinson turne dpro 89 won some shows had excellent legs and arms for days and took the payday.
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If by “defecting” you mean guys who competed in the WBF, who previously competed in the IFBB, I count 10:
- Mike Christian
- Mike Quinn
- Tony Pearson
- Danny Padilla
- David Dearth
- Johnnie Morant
- Berry DeMey
- Eddie Robinson
- Vince Comeford
- Gary Strydom (WBF Champion)
Three WBF guys may have had IFBB pro cards, but they never competed in an IFBB pro show. They are:
- Troy Zuccolotto (1989 NPC National Champions and 1989 Mr. Universe)
- Jim Quinn (1990 North American Champion)
- Aaron Baker (1990 NPC USA Champion)
One guy competed in the IFBB but never competed in a WBF show:
- Lou Ferrigno (who left shortly after the drug-testing policy arrived)
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McMahon is on the Apprentice now.....
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Out of all of them, Aaron Baker had the best run, coming 2nd to Flex at a Miami show. Dearth did an Olympia and place badly, Jim Quinn did a few placed respectably but as for Demey, Comerford and the rest they faded. Padilla was at the end of his career as I beleive he was in his 40's already.
Ironically Lugar looked the absolute biggest and best I had ever seen him. Supplemented to the gills, soon appeared as the Narcissist...
I disagree with your take on Luger. He was somewhat smaller than he'd been in his WCW wrestling days. He just carved himself up and got super-ripped for that video he had at the 1992 show, which was to have been his pre-film (Luger was supposed to be the quest poser but didn't show due to a motorcycle accident).
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Jim Quinn, post WBF (my boy)
1993
Chicago Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
1994
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 14th
Chicago Pro Invitational - IFBB, 12th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 10th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 12th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 13th
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 12th
1995
Houston Pro Invitational - IFBB, 11th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 14th
2000
Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 5th
Aaron Baker
1993
Night of Champions - IFBB, 12th
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th
1994
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 9th
Grand Prix Germany (2) - IFBB, 8th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Olympia - IFBB, 12th
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 6th
1995
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 9th
South Beach Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1996
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 11th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 10th
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 9th
Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 6th
Olympia - IFBB, 11th
1997
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 9th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
1998
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 7th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Olympia - IFBB, Did not place
2003
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 8th
David Dearth
1993
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
1994
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Germany (2) - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 6th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Night of Champions - IFBB, 8th
Olympia - IFBB, 19th
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1995
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 12th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 6th
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
1996
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 13th
1997
Night of Champions - IFBB, Did not place
2001
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, Did not place
Berry Demey
1993
Night of Champions - IFBB, 10th
1994
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 15th
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comerford could have been that era's priest huge arms and thick about same height.problem was those guys were either veterans by then or really good up and comers and they risked it all,dumb decision in hindsight.
Dumb decision?
Jim Quinn got $125,000 a year. Guys like Robinson, DeMey, Strydom, and Christian, got $200,000 or more.
The others got high 5-figure salaries, FAR more than they received as IFBB pros.
Strydom and Zuccolotto got Weider contracts after the WBF folded, each getting a good chunk of change (despite Strydom not competing until 1996 and Zuccolotto placing "18th" in nearly every show he entered).
Eddie Robinson may have benefitted the most, out of all the WBF guys. McMahon kept him for two years to endorse ICOPRO supplements (at or near his WBF salary), provided he submit to the drug-testing policy. In his old column in MuscleMag, Robinson stated that he made more money in one year with the WBF than he would have made in four years with Weider or the IFBB.
Aaron Baker and David Dearth really got noticed after their placings in the last WBF show (3rd and 5th, respectively). This is especially true for Baker, whos many fans felt was placed lower than he should have been, due to his affiliation with McMahon's organization.
Based on that, I don't think going to the WBF was "dumb" decision. For many of these guys, it was the best move they could have ever made.
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Dumb decision?
Jim Quinn got $125,000 a year. Guys like Robinson, DeMey, Strydom, and Christian, got $200,000 or more.
The others got high 5-figure salaries, FAR more than they received as IFBB pros.
Strydom and Zuccolotto got Weider contracts after the WBF folded, each getting a good chunk of change (despite Strydom not competing until 1996 and Zuccolotto placing "18th" in nearly every show he entered).
Eddie Robinson may have benefitted the most, out of all the WBF guys. McMahon kept him for two years to endorse ICOPRO supplements (at or near his WBF salary), provided he submit to the drug-testing policy. In his old column in MuscleMag, Robinson stated that he made more money in one year with the WBF than he would have made in four years with Weider or the IFBB.
Aaron Baker and David Dearth really got noticed after their placings in the last WBF show (3rd and 5th, respectively). This is especially true for Baker, whos many fans felt was placed lower than he should have been, due to his affiliation with McMahon's organization.
Based on that, I don't think going to the WBF was "dumb" decision. For many of these guys, it was the best move they could have ever made.
based on financial then yes but again the 'dumb" reference was to prove that when most of those crossed back over some got a backlash of some kind for defecting over and could have affected there placings in ifbb 93 and on...strydom got rich ok,but probably hated to compete with powers to be after wbf he was there guy and ifbb they could care less he did 96 n.o.c.and then 06 show .