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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: HERACLES on January 25, 2008, 04:31:31 PM
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Been dieting since the Start of January, cardio has been bumped up to two sessions the past couple of weeks as I am almost at 30 min per.
Here is how my diet looks, it changes a little day to day, but the calories are always between 1200- and 1300..protein about 150g- 200g, and carbs 120g max..
Weight is dropping steadily..im not that hungry surprisingly, I mean I do look fwd to my next meal, but I have no cravings..maybe just once in a while..
Any tips? Pointers? Are my calories too low? Protein not high enough? Thanks for your help..
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1200-1300 calories a day? holy shit man that's low even if you're a 105 pound woman, aren't you natural?
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wow. up the protein. keep carbs steady..slowly drop those down. increase your fibrous complex carbs(green leafy veggies), get your calories up a bit higher, do that by increasing protein and throwing in some fat burning fats. (omega 3, 6, cla)
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How tall are you? How much do you weigh?
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If I were you, I'd go down the high protein/fats diet and save the carbs for the once a week cheat meal. Get your fibre from leafy vegies.
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My figure competitors eat more then this 16wks out and do less cardio.
Hope this helps
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My figure competitors eat more then this 16wks out and do less cardio.
Hope this helps
exactly...gotta eat to lose
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Dude, not to repeat the others but those calories are waaaaayyyyy toooo low!
I just a meal plan for one of my figure girls:
5'4", 120 lbs 15% BF. She is eating 1,600-1,700 calories!! Are your stats similar? :-\
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5'4", 120 lbs 15% BF. She is eating 1,600-1,700 calories!! Are your stats similar? :-\
haha actually heracles used to post on her alot and has posted pictures before..he is a pretty decently sized dude, just carrys alot of fat.
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wow. up the protein. keep carbs steady..slowly drop those down. increase your fibrous complex carbs(green leafy veggies), get your calories up a bit higher, do that by increasing protein and throwing in some fat burning fats. (omega 3, 6, cla)
dude CLA causes fat storage and slows muscle anabolism
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dude CLA causes fat storage and slows muscle anabolism
have yOu ever tried iit?
dont knock it jus because its expensive and it lacks solid human testing evidence...its n awesome product regARDLESS.
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have yOu ever tried iit?
dont knock it jus because its expensive and it lacks solid human testing evidence...its n awesome product regARDLESS.
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in human trials it causes insulin resistence, they where well done. its a trans fatty acid.
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Cardio is for fat people and women. If you learn how to hit the anabolic switch you'll never have to fuck with cardio again.
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Cardio is for fat people and women. If you learn how to hit the anabolic switch you'll never have to fuck with cardio again.
hahah. yeah...if your taking cytomel and clen and eca along with two or three solid anabolic compounds and a good anti estro then all you need to be ripped is a controlled diet and heavy work in the gym.
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have yOu ever tried iit?
dont knock it jus because its expensive and it lacks solid human testing evidence...its n awesome product regARDLESS.
in human trials it causes insulin resistence, they where well done. its a trans fatty acid.
have you tried amphetamines? i dont need to try them to know they are stimulating.
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hahah. yeah...if your taking cytomel and clen and eca along with two or three solid anabolic compounds and a good anti estro then all you need to be ripped is a controlled diet and heavy work in the gym.
No, you don't have to take all those drugs at all. I can tell you are a former fat boy from every post you make. I bet you can't stay away from the treadmill, what an awful way to live.
If this guy is smart and can manipulate his fats and carbs the proper way and nail his training frequancy than he has no need whatsover to to do any cardio. None whatsoever.
Candidate if you never want to do cardio again shoot me a PM and I can share some info with you. You seem like a good kid, just headed in the wrong direction.
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No, you don't have to take all those drugs at all. I can tell you are a former fat boy from every post you make. I bet you can't stay away from the treadmill, what an awful way to live.
If this guy is smart and can manipulate his fats and carbs the proper way and nail his training frequancy than he has no need whatsover to to do any cardio. None whatsoever.
Candidate if you never want to do cardio again shoot me a PM and I can share some info with you. You seem like a good kid, just headed in the wrong direction.
This isn't true. Many if not most lifters will never get properly lean without a good cardio regimen. You have to be genetically blessed in that regard to get away with not doing any.
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This isn't true. Many if not most lifters will never get properly lean without a good cardio regimen. You have to be genetically blessed in that regard to get away with not doing any.
Agreed. Not all of us are Dexter Jackson :-\
We don't know the genetic make up of Mr. Herc so we must assume that some cardio is necessary.
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dude CLA causes fat storage and slows muscle anabolism
What you just said is the exact oppossite of every human trial I have ever seen. Please cite references, or remember to say "IN MY OPINION" when you make blanket statements like that. Ty
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What you just said is the exact oppossite of every human trial I have ever seen. Please cite references, or remember to say "IN MY OPINION" when you make blanket statements like that. Ty
i have over and over and over. i posted them like six times, rat studies show a positive effect, the majority of human trials shows the opposite. its not my opinion, its supported by evidence.
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well you have bee looking at the wrong tests....giveit a try dude. its an amazing supplement.
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i have over and over and over. i posted them like six times, rat studies show a positive effect, the majority of human trials shows the opposite. its not my opinion, its supported by evidence.
Feel free to post a 7th time, I'm sure by now you have the case studies bookmarked for easy reference.
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Feel free to post a 7th time, I'm sure by now you have the case studies bookmarked for easy reference.
they arent case studies. they are rct's, to be honest id be more interested in your opposing studies.
what i find funny is that people like candidate will be on the side of science, trying to learn biochemistry and then when a supplement like glutamine and cla are shown to do jack for bodybuilders they disagree for some unknown reason such as they lost weight while on it.
well candidate, where you taking other supps?dietary interventions?working out? since there are so many extraneous variables you cant tell if cla does shit, but rcts can, and it appears that in humans it is a ineffective, perhaps detrimental supplement.
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i just believe that results>science...and i went from zero carbs for several straight months to a high calorie/higher carb diet, and cla. the last time i did this i experienced a rapid fat gain...this time, i havent gained any fat at all. in fact, ive gotten a tad bit leaner as i have put on some muscle in a very short amount of time.
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i just believe that results>science...and i went from zero carbs for several straight months to a high calorie/higher carb diet, and cla. the last time i did this i experienced a rapid fat gain...this time, i havent gained any fat at all. in fact, ive gotten a tad bit leaner as i have put on some muscle in a very short amount of time.
your belief is wrong, sorry to break it to you. scientific studies attempt to weed out all the problems experience entails.
there are so many variables to this its not funny, so you diet then after you clean up your diet you go to a higher calorie diet and dont gain weight?
lets see
what was the intake before and after, the macros
any other supps?
workload?
and life changes?
stress?
how much exactly, did you measure bf?
etc etc... etc...etc....
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i just believe that results>science...and i went from zero carbs for several straight months to a high calorie/higher carb diet, and cla. the last time i did this i experienced a rapid fat gain...this time, i havent gained any fat at all. in fact, ive gotten a tad bit leaner as i have put on some muscle in a very short amount of time.
You = not trustable when it comes to nutritional advice.
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So I havent touched a thermogenic yet- Gonna buy some Xenadrine this week and throw it in the mix..should go well with my measily 1500 or less caloried a day, and 50 min cardio a day..lol..
I was thinking of ECA, but dont feel like searching for a place to get the caffeine pills, i have a source for the ephedra though.. ;) .... Xenadrine should do the job though, no?
Alot swear by Adipokinetix too..
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So I havent touched a thermogenic yet- Gonna buy some Xenadrine this week and throw it in the mix..should go well with my measily 1500 or less caloried a day, and 50 min cardio a day..lol..
I was thinking of ECA, but dont feel like searching for a place to get the caffeine pills, i have a source for the ephedra though.. ;) .... Xenadrine should do the job though, no?
Alot swear by Adipokinetix too..
Adipokinetix still around? Thought they pulled that because of the Nor-ephedrine deal back in the day?
You really only eat 1500 calories? What are your stats, that sounds really low and especially doing 50 min cardio a day. Dont wither away man.... :-[
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Adipokinetix still around? Thought they pulled that because of the Nor-ephedrine deal back in the day?
You really only eat 1500 calories? What are your stats, that sounds really low and especially doing 50 min cardio a day. Dont wither away man.... :-[
I have lots of fat to lose.. its not bad honestly, thats like 4-5 meals a day!! Its chicken, protein shakes, tuna, and Tilapia..once in a while i get some 90/10 chop meat...so the cals are that low but im eating..I know, sounds like nothin..haha
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I have lots of fat to lose.. its not bad honestly, thats like 4-5 meals a day!! Its chicken, protein shakes, tuna, and Tilapia..once in a while i get some 90/10 chop meat...so the cals are that low but im eating..I know, sounds like nothin..haha
i know it probably seems like your eating enough to keep your muscle...but your losing a ton of muscle eating 1500 cals a day. i dont care how fat you are or how slow your metabolism is.
and i know that your not that fat, herc..and i know youve got quite a bit of muscle...stop going so low on the cals..you wont have any muscle left once you get down to a decent bf%
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i know it probably seems like your eating enough to keep your muscle...but your losing a ton of muscle eating 1500 cals a day. i dont care how fat you are or how slow your metabolism is.
For once, Debussey agrees with you 100%.