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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: muscle19 on January 28, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
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Been using winny tabs for the last month, and for some reason, ive been getting small nose bleeds in the morning, could be dry apartment with winter being here in all, but I wasn't getting them before.
There was another post here about winni possibly being methlyn test, now I have been more irritable and been getting night sweats, I'm using test prop, 150mg eod too. I hope its not blood pressure but I have been getting bloody noise since I was a kid.
If anyone can help, that would be great.
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Can I post where I got them or not, I won't answer to anyone but mods or regulars
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I don't have a lot of experience with oral winny, I never cared for it really. You can post the lab that makes them, I don't think posting where you got them is cool though.
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http://www.sinucleanse.com/store_coupon.htm
Dry winter air.... This thing will stop most of your colds in their track if start using it when 1st start come down with one.
Keep the passages clear and you'll stay healthy much easier.
Steroid can increase time for blood to clot. Prothombin time (sp?)
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i got the winny tabs from balkan pharma, anyone know about this product??
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what are your guy's opinions on liquid winny as opposed to tablet winny? obviously i already thave been told that oral winstrol isnt nearly as efective as injectible kind...but out of the two oral versions which do you guys think is better?
...and i am not trying to get any one to give me any kind of answer but a yes or a no....so im not asking for advice on any connections nor am i refercing any atual connection prices. completey hypothetical yes or no question... is 140 dollars a fair price for 60 ml vial of liquid winstrol(or anadrol 50)?
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what are your guy's opinions on liquid winny as opposed to tablet winny? obviously i already thave been told that oral winstrol isnt nearly as efective as injectible kind...but out of the two oral versions which do you guys think is better?
...and i am not trying to get any one to give me any kind of answer but a yes or a no....so im not asking for advice on any connections nor am i refercing any atual connection prices. completey hypothetical yes or no question... is 140 dollars a fair price for 60 ml vial of liquid winstrol(or anadrol 50)?
Send me a PM with where you're supposedly getting this from.
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what are your guy's opinions on liquid winny as opposed to tablet winny? obviously i already thave been told that oral winstrol isnt nearly as efective as injectible kind...but out of the two oral versions which do you guys think is better?
...and i am not trying to get any one to give me any kind of answer but a yes or a no....so im not asking for advice on any connections nor am i refercing any atual connection prices. completey hypothetical yes or no question... is 140 dollars a fair price for 60 ml vial of liquid winstrol(or anadrol 50)?
I don't see the need in adding extra injections when taking it orally can be just as effective - just my opinion though.
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what are your guy's opinions on liquid winny as opposed to tablet winny? obviously i already thave been told that oral winstrol isnt nearly as efective as injectible kind...but out of the two oral versions which do you guys think is better?
...and i am not trying to get any one to give me any kind of answer but a yes or a no....so im not asking for advice on any connections nor am i refercing any atual connection prices. completey hypothetical yes or no question... is 140 dollars a fair price for 60 ml vial of liquid winstrol(or anadrol 50)?
you are 17 yo wtf go and have a life outside you moron, stop asking for roids, find a girl, bang her and you will see you dont need roids you little homo.
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On a serious note I hope you realize that winny & anadrol 50 are two very different drugs. I think you're either ripping someone off or they're selling you bunk gear (most likely you're getting ripped off).
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yup i do. check your p.m.
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Anadrol isn't a drug for a first timer. But, then again it's a real steroid not something like OTC designer gear that has no research backin it up...
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hey guys what would you think is a better cycle for KEEPABLE gains...(so which one would yield more muscle mass in the long run, once the cycle is done with and pct is taken care of)..
tren/anadrol or
tren/winny
and does this seem good
four weeks on,
four weeks clomid
four weeks on
four weeks clomid/arimidex/tribulus/clen
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and how about low dose t3(like 12 mg daily) ran for the duration to "skim" the excess calories "off the top"..?
also... is dianabol worth waiting a few months for...is it much better for MAINTAINABLE gains than either anadrol or winny?
(and yes, guys, i know winny is a "cutter", and anadrol & d-bol are "bulkers"...but im not really interested in what happens WHILE the drugs are going to work...more interested in what is going to be left over after the drugs are out of the system.)
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This cadidizzle guy needs a lot of help! Jesus.
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This cadidizzle guy needs a lot of help! Jesus.
well then....provide it! :D
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well then....provide it! :D
Well, there's a lot of things I was thinking of when reading your post. For example: are you thinking of doing one, and only one, cycle and then staying off steroids, since you are talking of keepable muscle? If you are then I can tell you there's never only one cycle. Never ever.
It doesn't matter what steroids you do, you are going to lose much of the gains after going off. Which one of your proposed cycles nets more "keepable muscle" is hard to say. With the Anadrol you'd gain more weight and lose more. With the Winny you'd gain less weight and consequently lose less.
Those stacks are bad first cycles anyway.
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Dizzle,
Tren and anadrol are both heavy hitters. A newbie should not use either one. With drol, you will gain an ass load of weight and strength, BUT when you come off, you lose just about all of it. A buddy of mine in highschool senior year did a cycle of drol only for 90 days. He got huge and strong, but after the cycle lost EVERYTHING. And had to have surgery to remove the newly acquired boobies he got during the cycle. With tren, you'll gain an ass load of strength and some size and hardness, but again, it shuts you down hard and gains are hard to keep as well. With AAS, usually the bigger the gains, the more you will trade off in losses. You are to young IMO though, way to young. Once you start and get a taste, you will want to keep doing it. Enjoy your youth and being natural, you have plenty of time to get where you want to go. Since you have lost all the fat, you have shown you are in this for the long haul, so just do research and read, read and read some more. I read for about a year before I did my first and I was 26 years old at the time. And that was working out for 12 years naturally. I had a hell of a base to build from, so when I do cycle off, I still stay big and strong because I built the foundation. Keep working out hard and stay natural, build your base, and then start. ;)
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hey guys what would you think is a better cycle for KEEPABLE gains...(so which one would yield more muscle mass in the long run, once the cycle is done with and pct is taken care of)..
tren/anadrol or
tren/winny
and does this seem good
four weeks on,
four weeks clomid
four weeks on
four weeks clomid/arimidex/tribulus/clen
?
and how about low dose t3(like 12 mg daily) ran for the duration to "skim" the excess calories "off the top"..?
also... is dianabol worth waiting a few months for...is it much better for MAINTAINABLE gains than either anadrol or winny?
(and yes, guys, i know winny is a "cutter", and anadrol & d-bol are "bulkers"...but im not really interested in what happens WHILE the drugs are going to work...more interested in what is going to be left over after the drugs are out of the system.)
Bad idea without test.
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Bad idea without test.
He's 17 or so and willing to inject whatever people recommend him. Since you are a mod, recommend him water or somethign that wont kill him please :(
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He's 17 or so and willing to inject whatever people recommend him. Since you are a mod, recommend him water or somethign that wont kill him please :(
I don't agree with AAS use at his age but if he's determined I'd like to see him do it "right" (if there is a right way).
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so more importantly than adding in tren would be to add in one of the three testo's...??
since it seems like i dont have much of an idea where to start... heres what i can get= anadrol, winstrol, deca, tren, test, clomid, arimidex, clenbuterol, t3.
if anyone would be willin to put me together a good cycle with the maximum amount of keepeable gains i would greatly appreciate the info/advice
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so more importantly than adding in tren would be to add in one of the three testo's...??
since it seems like i dont have much of an idea where to start... heres what i can get= anadrol, winstrol, deca, tren, test, clomid, arimidex, clenbuterol, t3.
if anyone would be willin to put me together a good cycle with the maximum amount of keepeable gains i would greatly appreciate the info/advice
your pic is here, this site is visited by feds and you just said you get all of that = you have a supplier
good luck getting busted you fucking idiot
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He's 17 or so and willing to inject whatever people recommend him. Since you are a mod, recommend him water or somethign that wont kill him please :(
Damn, he's 17? I didn't know you were that young Candizzle. Yeah dude, definitely stay natural. Your natural test levels are extremely high right now, doing AAS now will only screw you for later on. Trust me, build that base, plenty of years left to play with the good stuff :)
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i am 19 in a little over a month. this is my third year in bodybuilding.
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i am 19 in a little over a month. this is my third year in bodybuilding.
you are still 18. idiot i hope you get busted
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you are still 18. idiot i hope you get busted
thanks. i wish you well, as well.
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thanks. i wish you well, as well.
im not joking
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so more importantly than adding in tren would be to add in one of the three testo's...??
since it seems like i dont have much of an idea where to start... heres what i can get= anadrol, winstrol, deca, tren, test, clomid, arimidex, clenbuterol, t3.
if anyone would be willin to put me together a good cycle with the maximum amount of keepeable gains i would greatly appreciate the info/advice
You're trying to go too far too fast with too much. The best philosophy is KISS.
Note: benz is right. Not a good idea posting your face on the boards if you're bragging about a supplier.
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so more importantly than adding in tren would be to add in one of the three testo's...??
since it seems like i dont have much of an idea where to start... heres what i can get= anadrol, winstrol, deca, tren, test, clomid, arimidex, clenbuterol, t3.
if anyone would be willin to put me together a good cycle with the maximum amount of keepeable gains i would greatly appreciate the info/advice
Based on what you listed there.
First, no clen or t-3...if you're trying to gain then gain...save those items for dieting.
Few options:
1. 8wks of winny, 50mg/eod. It won't shut you down very hard, easy to come off of...keep diet tight and most gains will be kept, although gains made will not be dramatic...no reason you can't gain 10lbs and have a bump in strength
2. 500mg/test/wk for 12wks, followed by clomid. A little more serious then the 1st one, pretty basic though as for test cycles. Read the thinking about steroids thread.
3. Same as 2 but add in winny last 4wks
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...adding in the winny in the last few weeks of the test cycle is supposed to "solidify" the gains made, am i right? ...i think that is what i want to do..
tell me what you guys think
3 month cycle...
45 mg decabolen(superdrol+tren+deca prohormone) twice daily for the first two weeks.
test 500 mg/week all the way through.
halotestin 25 mg preworkout ed all the way through.
25 mg winny ed day for the last 4 weeks.
pct...one month
.5 arimidex ed
25 mg clomid ed
25 mg clen ed
10 grams tribulus ed.
2 grams dhea ed.
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...adding in the winny in the last few weeks of the test cycle is supposed to "solidify" the gains made, am i right? ...i think that is what i want to do..
tell me what you guys think
3 month cycle...
45 mg decabolen(superdrol+tren+deca prohormone) twice daily for the first two weeks.
test 500 mg/week all the way through.
halotestin 25 mg preworkout ed all the way through.
25 mg winny ed day for the last 4 weeks.
pct...one month
.5 arimidex ed
25 mg clomid ed
25 mg clen ed
10 grams tribulus ed.
2 grams dhea ed.
That's too much for a first time cycle - that being said I doubt you'll listen to any of us. You should keep it simple in the beginning. Halo is not ment to be used by a first timer. Why don't you listen to Arnold? Why don't you do a simple Test only cycle?
Yes, winny can help to solidify gains. However, remember you will always lose something when off.
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That's too much for a first time cycle - that being said I doubt you'll listen to any of us. You should keep it simple in the beginning. Halo is not ment to be used by a first timer. Why don't you listen to Arnold? Why don't you do a simple Test only cycle?
Yes, winny can help to solidify gains. However, remember you will always lose something when off.
well the decabolen and halo are both pro hormones and i have them already. just havent had a reason/good way to take them.
i could drop them out, if thats the consensus.
what about the pct...does that look like it will bring me back up nicely..should i drop anything out, move anything around, up any dosages, reduce any dosages, or add anything else in? i think the pct is probably the most important part...because thats where ill find out how much i ACTUALLY gained.
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well the decabolen and halo are both pro hormones and i have them already. just havent had a reason/good way to take them.
i could drop them out, if thats the consensus.
what about the pct...does that look like it will bring me back up nicely..should i drop anything out, move anything around, up any dosages, reduce any dosages, or add anything else in? i think the pct is probably the most important part...because thats where ill find out how much i ACTUALLY gained.
IMO - the PCT is way overboard.
Try this for a simple but effective first time cycle:
Weeks 1-12 500mg of Test EW (any time of Test but I prefer Test C or E)
Weeks 14-17 PCT 20-40mg of Nolva ED
You should bounce back just fine.
I think PH are junk - the sides are often worse then real gear.
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well the decabolen and halo are both pro hormones and i have them already. just havent had a reason/good way to take them.
i could drop them out, if thats the consensus.
what about the pct...does that look like it will bring me back up nicely..should i drop anything out, move anything around, up any dosages, reduce any dosages, or add anything else in? i think the pct is probably the most important part...because thats where ill find out how much i ACTUALLY gained.
hey rapper, last warning
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...adding in the winny in the last few weeks of the test cycle is supposed to "solidify" the gains made, am i right? ...i think that is what i want to do..
tell me what you guys think
3 month cycle...
45 mg decabolen(superdrol+tren+deca prohormone) twice daily for the first two weeks.
test 500 mg/week all the way through.
halotestin 25 mg preworkout ed all the way through.
25 mg winny ed day for the last 4 weeks.
pct...one month
.5 arimidex ed
25 mg clomid ed
25 mg clen ed
10 grams tribulus ed.
2 grams dhea ed.
I gave you my thoughts on the cycle already...do what you want, but the cycle anomaly you created5ed is junk.
PCT...you don't use things like arimidex for PCT. Again, read the thinking about steroids sticky, it should clear things up for you.
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I gave you my thoughts on the cycle already...do what you want, but the cycle anomaly you created5ed is junk.
PCT...you don't use things like arimidex for PCT. Again, read the thinking about steroids sticky, it should clear things up for you.
I find that very funny.
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okay, ill KISS.
winny. thats it 8 weeks. for pct clomid and arimidex (i dont know why you said that arimidex wasnt used for pct..thats what you write about in "thinking about steroids"...that nolva should be combined with clomid...and arimidex and nolva both are workign the same pathway and doing pretty much the same thing..).
winny dosages... once a day, twice a day..? any preferable time to take it...? like, maybe before mornign cardio, or one hour before training...does it even matter? whats the bioavailability (or half-life) of winny(its in liquid form)..?
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bro, go to pubmed.com and do some research. Nolvadex and airmidex are in no way the same. Airmidex is used while on cycle to combat estrogen related sides, and is in no way for PCT. Aromasin is for PCT. There is a difference between adex and aromasin. Get off of getbig and do some real research before you hurt your self. Please tell me your not going to do a winny only cycle. Research, research, research. You are in no way ready to run a cycle, if you dont even know the difference between adex and nolva!
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winny. thats it 8 weeks. for pct clomid and arimidex (i dont know why you said that arimidex wasnt used for pct..thats what you write about in "thinking about steroids"...that nolva should be combined with clomid...and arimidex and nolva both are workign the same pathway and doing pretty much the same thing..).
No no no. An aromatase inhibitor is a bad idea for PCT for several reasons. For example, estrogen is low post cycle - you don't need an AI.
pct...one month
.5 arimidex ed
25 mg clomid ed
25 mg clen ed
10 grams tribulus ed.
2 grams dhea ed.
I already said that Tribulus is worthless. Why do you think it will do anything? It wont. DHEA in PCT is a supremely bad idea. It converts mostly to estrogen in males. Why would you want something that converts to estrogen and some test in PCT? Do you think that will help recovery? Think.
PCT should be HCG (done either throughout the cycle or in the end when the gear starts clearing) followed by a SERM.
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Airmidex is used while on cycle to combat estrogen related sides, and is in no way for PCT. Aromasin is for PCT. There is a difference between adex and aromasin.
They are pretty much the same. Both are AIs (Aromasin is a suicidal AI but both do the same thing pretty much). Both are a poor idea for PCT IMO.
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okay, ill KISS.
winny. thats it 8 weeks. for pct clomid and arimidex (i dont know why you said that arimidex wasnt used for pct..thats what you write about in "thinking about steroids"...that nolva should be combined with clomid...and arimidex and nolva both are workign the same pathway and doing pretty much the same thing..).
winny dosages... once a day, twice a day..? any preferable time to take it...? like, maybe before mornign cardio, or one hour before training...does it even matter? whats the bioavailability (or half-life) of winny(its in liquid form)..?
No, that's not what is said in there at all...read it again.
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They are pretty much the same. Both are AIs (Aromasin is a suicidal AI but both do the same thing pretty much). Both are a poor idea for PCT IMO.
Your opinion is completely wrong about this! Nolva/clomid run four weeks, combined with aromasin run for six weeks is one of the best PCT's one could do! This is not opinion this is fact backed up with medical studies. I dont have the time to post these studies as of right now, as I have other personal things to take care of. But I think others on this board will back this up. I will dig up the studies and will post them if necessary. Aromasin will stop estrogen rebound while also increasing one's natural test. Estrogen rebound can be a common occurrence during PCT. Here is an article (not a studyby any means)by Anthony Roberts. I know what some think of him, I will reserve my thoughts. This article explains the use of aromasin in PCT.
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/aromasin.htm
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Aromasin will stop estrogen rebound while also increasing one's natural test. Estrogen rebound can be a common occurrence during PCT.
Well, we obviously disagree about this. What you have to understand is that is that estrogen follows testosterone. More test = more est. What do you mean by "estrogen rebound"? Some have the unfounded belief that post cycle estrogen is high while testosterone is low. Not so, due to what I said previously.
Post cycle estrogen is low! Because testosterone is low (since most estrogen in males comes from test aromatizing).
You also said "Arimidex is used during cycle and Aromasin is for PCT". Why? Yes, there may be advatages/disadvatages between them but both do the same thing essentially.
I will expound further after I read that article (yes, I already know AR is an utter fool). :D
BTW, there's no "fact" when it comes to your "best PCT". There are a few things to consider (what drugs did you do, how long a cycle, blood work, etc). PCT therapy is not exact science since these combos of drugs haven't been studied in AAS using bodybuilders.
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DHEA at 2 grams a day???
Much over 100mg. day can be converted to estrogen, have to be careful with DHEA.
If someone told you to do your proposed "cycle" and PCT, they are fucking with you!
2 g. dhea, laughable Candi!! :-\
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got the winny and some test..
the test is a blend of all four. the winny is liquid oral. arimidex comes in the mail tomorrow along with clen, t3, and clomid. going to use the arimidex during the cycle to avoid neg. sides...going to use the clomid pct wih some tribulus. ...saving the clen+t3 forthe summer..mayb for a contest i might compete in in the fall. don know yet.
thanks for all the info guys...
ill keep you guys updated.
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got the winny and some test..
the test is a blend of all four. the winny is liquid oral. arimidex comes in the mail tomorrow along with clen, t3, and clomid. going to use the arimidex during the cycle to avoid neg. sides...going to use the clomid pct wih some tribulus. ...saving the clen+t3 forthe summer..mayb for a contest i might compete in in the fall. don know yet.
thanks for all the info guys...
ill keep you guys updated.
Thank you for giving detailed info of what r u getting and how and when. With your pic all over this board it wont take too much time the feds to track you down and become the new getbig hero u fucking idiot.
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got the winny and some test..
the test is a blend of all four. the winny is liquid oral. arimidex comes in the mail tomorrow along with clen, t3, and clomid. going to use the arimidex during the cycle to avoid neg. sides...going to use the clomid pct wih some tribulus. ...saving the clen+t3 forthe summer..mayb for a contest i might compete in in the fall. don know yet.
thanks for all the info guys...
ill keep you guys updated.
With your pics all over the board why would you post when & what kind of illegal drugs you're getting? It may sound paranoid but damn.
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got the winny and some test..
the test is a blend of all four. the winny is liquid oral. arimidex comes in the mail tomorrow along with clen, t3, and clomid. going to use the arimidex during the cycle to avoid neg. sides...going to use the clomid pct wih some tribulus. ...saving the clen+t3 forthe summer..mayb for a contest i might compete in in the fall. don know yet.
thanks for all the info guys...
ill keep you guys updated.
This is a joke right? A gimmick of some sort??? :-\
We should bottle up your 18 yr old test and sell it! Go ahead and fuck yourself up kido, way to go..
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This is a joke right? A gimmick of some sort??? :-\
We should bottle up your 18 yr old test and sell it! Go ahead and fuck yourself up kido, way to go..
is he really 18?? jesus christ...what the fuck candid give your nuts a chance to drop first bro before you start with all this shit...i wish you the best bro but fuck dont you think your cutting yourself short....you obviously have no faith in yourself to be resorting to this shit soo early and young
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got the winny and some test..
the test is a blend of all four. the winny is liquid oral. arimidex comes in the mail tomorrow along with clen, t3, and clomid. going to use the arimidex during the cycle to avoid neg. sides...going to use the clomid pct wih some tribulus. ...saving the clen+t3 forthe summer..mayb for a contest i might compete in in the fall. don know yet.
thanks for all the info guys...
ill keep you guys updated.
Coming in the mail, eh?
Man, what a dumb ass kid.
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Based on what you listed there.
First, no clen or t-3...if you're trying to gain then gain...save those items for dieting.
Few options:
1. 8wks of winny, 50mg/eod. It won't shut you down very hard, easy to come off of...keep diet tight and most gains will be kept, although gains made will not be dramatic...no reason you can't gain 10lbs and have a bump in strength
2. 500mg/test/wk for 12wks, followed by clomid. A little more serious then the 1st one, pretty basic though as for test cycles. Read the thinking about steroids thread.
3. Same as 2 but add in winny last 4wks
So 8 weeks of winny would be okay with the liver?
I read tons of threads on different boards about how long you should take winny for....always a different answer with different reasons ;D
But I know you know you stuff!
Should you take liv-52 with it or should you be okay? And in general...do you take liv-52 during or after the cycle and at what dose and length?
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So 8 weeks of winny would be okay with the liver?
I read tons of threads on different boards about how long you should take winny for....always a different answer with different reasons ;D
But I know you know you stuff!
Should you take liv-52 with it or should you be okay? And in general...do you take liv-52 during or after the cycle and at what dose and length?
If I do take it I do so when I'm off.
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So 8 weeks of winny would be okay with the liver?
I read tons of threads on different boards about how long you should take winny for....always a different answer with different reasons ;D
But I know you know you stuff!
Should you take liv-52 with it or should you be okay? And in general...do you take liv-52 during or after the cycle and at what dose and length?
As long as you're fairly healthy you'll be fine. Now if you start taking some crazy ass doses then that'll be another story.
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Dizzle,
Tren and anadrol are both heavy hitters. A newbie should not use either one. With drol, you will gain an ass load of weight and strength, BUT when you come off, you lose just about all of it. A buddy of mine in highschool senior year did a cycle of drol only for 90 days. He got huge and strong, but after the cycle lost EVERYTHING. And had to have surgery to remove the newly acquired boobies he got during the cycle. With tren, you'll gain an ass load of strength and some size and hardness, but again, it shuts you down hard and gains are hard to keep as well. With AAS, usually the bigger the gains, the more you will trade off in losses. You are to young IMO though, way to young. Once you start and get a taste, you will want to keep doing it. Enjoy your youth and being natural, you have plenty of time to get where you want to go. Since you have lost all the fat, you have shown you are in this for the long haul, so just do research and read, read and read some more. I read for about a year before I did my first and I was 26 years old at the time. And that was working out for 12 years naturally. I had a hell of a base to build from, so when I do cycle off, I still stay big and strong because I built the foundation. Keep working out hard and stay natural, build your base, and then start. ;)
Who the fuck takes gear in high school? Much less a-50? Not trying to sound old, but I didn't even know where to get gear in high school and I trained at a pretty hardcore commercial gym when I was a freshman (1988). I trained and competed naturally from 1989-1995 before I touched anything. IMO, when you take gear real young (17-23 or 24), you don't develop a good base.
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Who the fuck takes gear in high school? Much less a-50? Not trying to sound old, but I didn't even know where to get gear in high school and I trained at a pretty hardcore commercial gym when I was a freshman (1988). I trained and competed naturally from 1989-1995 before I touched anything. IMO, when you take gear real young (17-23 or 24), you don't develop a good base.
It wasn't me who took it in school, it was my buddy. He's always been lazy and wanted rewards quick in the gym. Gear was easy to get then. The guy had did stacks of Tets Prop, Winni and A-50 all in highschool. He quit lifting though, and weighs about 170 now. Me, I trained naturally for 10 years and didn't do my 1st cycle until I was 26, I built my base.
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I know highschool wrestlers, who took boat loads of anavar during wrestling season.....and get this, theri fathers bought it for them!
But these were rich kids from New Jersey, who wrestled all year round at wrestilng clubs and did freestyle(olympic style) also! These were not you average wrestlers!
Also some of the heavier weight classes did more hardcore stuff! Look at the high school wrestling finals at some of the poupular wrestling states like Iowa, Ohio, NY, NJ, PA....and If you see a freshman in the 171 or 189 lbs weight class...you know #1 He's gifted....and #2 he possibly had some type of aid ;)
I live in FL now, but wrestled my whole life in NJ since I could walk.....I know what's up 8)
And Honestly....besides the health risks involved.....I don't think it's unfair or moraly wrong! These guys work hard all year long and that's the bottom line....gear or no gear. Who's to say that protein powder and creatine is okay, but not AAS....they both aid at performance...just one is better than the other ;)