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amazing to see this again.
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I'm still watching it.
It's weird how the building went down.
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The truth will come out one day. Disgusting that it all happened like clockwork.
When 240 brings up details of big wigs cancelling flights and other things lining this up........it makes my skin crawl.
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The truth will come out one day. Disgusting that it all happened like clockwork.
When 240 brings up details of big wigs cancelling flights and other things lining this up........it makes my skin crawl.
who was a big wig that cancelled?
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who was a big wig that cancelled?
According to many reports I heard, just before this happened Ashcroft and a few others started chartering private jets, and supposedly Condoleeza Rice called San Francisco's mayor and told him not to fly that day.
All the highly unusual put options on the affected airlines is another smoking gun, ...especially when they don't even collect their windfall ??? If I made a multi-gazillion bucks in one day... legitmately, ...you can bet your tush I'd show up to collect it big time!!!
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According to many reports I heard, just before this happened Ashcroft and a few others started chartering private jets, and supposedly Condoleeza Rice called San Francisco's mayor and told him not to fly that day.
All the highly unusual put options on the affected airlines is another smoking gun, ...especially when they don't even collect their windfall ??? If I made a multi-gazillion bucks in one day... legitmately, ...you can bet your tush I'd show up to collect it big time!!!
so nobody collected the dividends???? sorry but i never really looked in to all this
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so nobody collected the dividends???? sorry but i never really looked in to all this
nope, ...and the paper trail has some very disturbing ... how would you say ...circumstantial circumstances?
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nope, ...and the paper trail has some very disturbing ... how would you say ...circumstantial circumstances?
please explain in detail
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please explain in detail
Oh Quickerblade, it's not yet even 8 am here, ...and I'm 2 hrs overdue for my catnap.
Just google "Condoleeza Rice" + "Willie Brown" + "911".
There were too many references for them to have gotten to and erased them all
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kind of bored, don't feel like typing too much ;D here is a link to insider trading.
Insider Trading
Pre-9/11 Put Options on Companies Hurt by Attack Indicates Foreknowledge
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html (http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html)
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I still can't get over it. And thank you for the video, a video that for once doesn't have dramatic and sad music to it. It's frightening and dramatic enough by itself.
The truth? Maybe later, maybe in a time of this food food nation where no one will give a shit and turn their dumbboxes on to American Idol. Just like all the people who don't give a rats ass about the Tuskeegee Experiements, the Spanish-American War, The USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, the entire Iraq episode past and present, etc....
This is what will happen if and when the whole truth comes out: Nothing. Nobody held accountable, no changes made....nothing. We just chug along and hope the next engineered or enabled catastrophic event doesn't somehow interfere with our mortgage payment and driving our trucks around.
Sad.
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>:(
Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. and Merrill Lynch & Co. were both headquartered in lower Manhattan at the time of the attack. Morgan Stanley occupied 22 floors of the North Tower and Merrill Lynch had headquarters near the Twin Towers. Morgan Stanley, which saw an average of 27 put options on its stock bought per day before September 6, saw 2,157 put options bought in the three trading days before the attack. Merrill Lynch, which saw an average of 252 put options on its stock bought per day before September 5, saw 12,215 put options bought in the four trading days before the attack. Morgan Stanley's stock dropped 13% and Merrill Lynch's stock dropped 11.5% when the market reopened. 11
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There is still $2.5million unclaimed in options.............A sure sign of knowing criminal activity if picked up.
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There is still $2.5million unclaimed in options.............A sure sign of knowing criminal activity if picked up.
cant they link it to who placed the options??? or is that a dumb question, (sorry i dont and never traded in shares)
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they did track it.
since it didn't lead to al quida, the matter was dropped. jus tlike the 'smoking guns' of molten steel at ground zero under the 3 buildings - al quida didn't do it, so it wasn't investigated. Remember the sole job of the 911 commission - according to the commissioners themselves - was to explain how al quida did 911. all evidence that showed domestic involvement, other countries helping, pre-warnings - that was not taken into consideration. their report was how al quida did it. period.
how's that for downright silly?
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Ya dumb girls. They just shorted the stocks for fun I suppose?
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Ya dumb girls. They just shorted the stocks for fun I suppose?
not sure if you're being sarcastic or where you stand on the issue of a new 911 investigation.
someone knew ahead of time that the 2 airlines and those 2 firms would nosedive bigtime. Yes, we can be fairly certain that they didn't fly planes that day. But they should have been interviewed and this should be public knowledge. This means that someone other thank those 19 pricks knew what was going to happen.
again, look at the 911 commission report. the purpose wasn't to "get to the bottom of it" - it was to explain the guilt assigned to alQ by the bush admin less than 24 hours after the attacks.
Despite evidence - and a lot of it - that other parties knew, had warning, were involved, etc - none of that was investigated by the commission. So when people say "we already know everything that happened, they had a full investigation"... punch them in the gut. Tell they to stop spreading ignorance. half of the 911 commissioners want a new investigation. One called it a whitewash. 1 is pissed about 2 of the hijackers living with FBI assets before the attacks. 1 went on CNN and talked about the missile that hit the pentagon before correcting himself.
10 guys, hand selected by bush, to rubber stamp the story he wanted... and half of them say it stinks. what more do you need? lol...
honestly tho, there will be another investigation, but it'll be 7 or 10 years from now, when everyone knows, and everyone involved is retired outside the USA with the 2.3 trillion that went missing on 9/10/2001...
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Or, maybe someone who was legitimately short on airline stocks did not want to profit from people dying...did not want to touch the blood money?
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Oh Quickerblade, it's not yet even 8 am here, ...and I'm 2 hrs overdue for my catnap.
Just google "Condoleeza Rice" + "Willie Brown" + "911".
There were too many references for them to have gotten to and erased them all
Geezus CHrist.....all these years later, and you're still an annoying cunnnt.
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Or, maybe someone who was legitimately short on airline stocks did not want to profit from people dying...did not want to touch the blood money?
it's possible. very unlikely, statistically, that they would go 100 times above average on the exact 4 stocks that would crash.
Certainly a small enough probability that an invetigation should be conducted.
can you imagine the odds of choosing those 4, out of the thousands of places to put your money, on that exact date? I spose it could be a coincidence, but the odds are in the billions, wouldn't you agree?
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it's possible. very unlikely, statistically, that they would go 100 times above average on the exact 4 stocks that would crash.
Certainly a small enough probability that an invetigation should be conducted.
can you imagine the odds of choosing those 4, out of the thousands of places to put your money, on that exact date? I spose it could be a coincidence, but the odds are in the billions, wouldn't you agree?
Hello, shorting airline stocks in this day and age is not that unusual. They've been pretty shitting p erformers. Remember TWA, Pan Am, etc? why don't you ask goat "smart money" boy?
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Hello, shorting airline stocks in this day and age is not that unusual. They've been pretty shitting p erformers. Remember TWA, Pan Am, etc? why don't you ask goat "smart money" boy?
okay.
Given the staggering odds of selecting 4 stocks which quickly dropped, should this group of investors have been investigated?
Also, how many times in history has a group of investors failed to collect money because they felt bad?
Or, maybe someone who was legitimately short on airline stocks did not want to profit from people dying...did not want to touch the blood money?
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okay.
Given the staggering odds of selecting 4 stocks which quickly dropped, should this group of investors have been investigated?
Also, how many times in history has a group of investors failed to collect money because they felt bad?
First of all, I don't know if this even happened as you say it did.
Second, it would not be that unusual, as goodwill is pretty important...especially if you're in a business where your reputation matters.
Third, why is jaguarenterprises here? I thought judi was driven off the boards a long time ago by havenbull.
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On this home video, why did the video suddenly skips the part where the second plane approaches? The camera is fixed on the top of the WTC, then it skips for no reason, then you see an explosion and more smoke, then the lady says it was huge military plane. Why then did they not catch this military plane on camera?
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calmus, it's simple.
Do you feel there should be a complete investigation into the horrible crime of 9/11?
yes or no?
Taking into account 3000 died, and that there never was an investigation- only an admitted narrative into al quida's role in it - we can all agree there are many unanswered Qs about the biggest event of our lives and catalyst for a series of wars. With any crime you have standard procedures - rebuilding the planes, interviewing all witnesses, and coming as close to what actually happened as possible. It took 441 days of protests from the widows before the white house even started the 911 commission - they waited over a year to even investigate the biggest crime ever.
Odd?
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cant they link it to who placed the options??? or is that a dumb question, (sorry i dont and never traded in shares)
There have been some very interesting links made. One particularly compelling picture was drawn by former police officer and investigator Michael Ruppert (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/about.html). This was the man that investigated alledged CIA involvement in cocaine traffiking. He is also the former publisher of 'From the Wilderness'. There is a google video out there where he lays out his case and names names. Not sure what he's up to now. I heard he had to make a rather hasty exit from the country in order to preserve his life, ...but his website is at http://www.copvcia.com (http://www.copvcia.com)
OK found the link to the page http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html)
The dots are easier to connect in the google video though and he lays out a graphic visual presentation of his evidence
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Okay, I found the Google Video wherein Michael Ruppert lays out his case.
It's a long one, ...but he's pretty thorough from start to finish.
The Truth & Lies of 9-11 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145)
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it all comes down to this...
there is a great deal of evidence out there which makes it sound like others knew about 911 ahead of time, or helped stifle its investigation. there is a great deal of evidence that the 'official story' isn't technically feasible. and, there's a lot of new witness testimoney which points to bombs being used to bring down the towers.
in a few years (as was the case with pearl harbor and JFK), there will be a second investigation, once those who were in power at the time of th event have retired and are no longer able to stifle it. Since the white house had the most to gain from 911 (using terror card to win elections and get legislation/spending they want), certainly they cannot be an objective investigator of the event. Just as Johnson couldn't investigate JFK fairly, just like FDR couldn't investigate Pearl Harbor fairly.
however, once bush retires and another admin gets in, we'll likely see more congressman come fwd with bills to re-open 911. and we already know that 2/3 of americans polled want a new investigation, and historically, these big events are investigated later.
so all we can do it watch, and vote for ppl who want to investigate it. it'll be a moot point - we'll own afghanistan and iraq, the goal of 911 - but it'll be nice for the victims, and for america so we don't fall for the BS again.
So either you want an investigation, or you don't. It won't happen tomorrow, but it will happen eventually.
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but it'll be nice for the victims, and for america so we don't fall for the BS again.
Wasn't that what investigations into Pearl Harbour, the Gulf of Tonkin & WaterGate were supposed to produce? :'(
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Hi Jaguar, you annoying cunnt, when did you come back?
240, there are private rights of action available for people who were hurt by the supposed shorting of the stocks. They should have filed before the SoL ran out on them, and then they could have had their full investigation by impartial courts. I'm sure they did this, as it's a very easy case to make. Goat "smart money" boy can tell you all about this I'm sure.
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Wasn't that what investigations into Pearl Harbour, the Gulf of Tonkin & WaterGate were supposed to produce? :'(
that was before the internet.
people knew what their 6 PM NBC news told them to know.
Today, once a person realizes they have been blatently lied to by their TV... well, they turn to other news sources. They'll still watch MSM, but they'll be aware there is more info out there. MSM can try to 'manage' a story, but often irgnoring it is impossible. If 911 had happened in 1970, there wouldn't have been a 911 truth movement, because they wouldn't have been able to share the videos, no blogging, and then news wouldn't have had to cover it to manage it.
weird struggle coming up now... battle between sheep and truth. It's a propaganda war, conducted by people with smiles. Pretty hilarious, yet sad at the same time. I don't see how anyone can look at the BBC reporter standing in front of WTC7, talking about how it collapsed, and not wonder who wrote her script for her...
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240, there are private rights of action available for people who were hurt by the supposed shorting of the stocks. They should have filed before the SoL ran out on them, and then they could have had their full investigation by impartial courts. I'm sure they did this, as it's a very easy case to make. Goat "smart money" boy can tell you all about this I'm sure.
I don't see the stocks as a smoking gun - but they are important, as it shows it was *likely* that some group of investors knew these 4 companies would have a very bad week. Interrogating them might lead to the source of this "hot lead", who could have been someone with foreknowledge.
If there are more than 19 pricks responsible for 911 happening, you'd want to know, wouldn't you calmus?
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I don't see the stocks as a smoking gun - but they are important, as it shows it was *likely* that some group of investors knew these 4 companies would have a very bad week. Interrogating them might lead to the source of this "hot lead", who could have been someone with foreknowledge.
If there are more than 19 pricks responsible for 911 happening, you'd want to know, wouldn't you calmus?
Well, they should have filed then. One of the "lib-friendly" courts would have been glad to investigate.
I'm sure there were more than 19 pricks involved.
I was also promised Bin Laden's head on a stake.....some things you just get used to, I suppose.
Can we ban the annoying cunnt from here? THanks.
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Well, they should have filed then. One of the "lib-friendly" courts would have been glad to investigate.
I'm sure there were more than 19 pricks involved.
That's what odd to me.
I'm not saying you- but some people here - joelocal for example - have said that any kind of investigation into 911 is "liberal". I don't understand that. 3000 dead people, and no complete crime investigation. Wanting to see if there are any more terrorists on the loose is the MOST American thing you could do.
For some reason, people see interest in finding out who else was involved with 911 as hating on Bush. I don't get that.