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Title: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Stark on February 05, 2008, 08:52:52 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Livewire on February 05, 2008, 09:14:16 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 09:14:59 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?

I'm willing to bet pretty much anyone would have their life over yours.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Karl Kox on February 05, 2008, 09:35:09 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?

I think if they are healthy they will.  But even if they are not healthy, who knows they may think a shorter life or death be for 50 was worth it .  I think I read some where that they asked some Olympic athletes if the could win the gold medal but they would die with in a few years would they still want it and some of them said yes.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Stark on February 05, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
I think if they are healthy they will.  But even if they are not healthy, who knows they may think a shorter life or death be for 50 was worth it .  I think I read some where that they asked some Olympic athletes if the could win the gold medal but they would die with in a few years would they still want it and some of them said yes.

I seriously think that beeing that big (maybe not as big as Jay or Ronnie) is absolutly breathtaking, you must feel awesome invisible and
just strong.
But has anybody acutally bothered at finding these guys that have been in Flex or MD Years and years ago? The once we have never heard of again?
i would like to see an Interview with them and if it was worth it.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 09:41:44 AM
Why wouldnt it be worth it?
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: SteelePegasus on February 05, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?

both Ronnie and Jay have made a small fortune doing something that they love doing..you can't beat that as a career
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Stark on February 05, 2008, 09:43:54 AM
both Ronnie and Jay have made a small fortune doing something that they love doing..you can't beat that as a career

But Money doesn't give you your health back, times ticking, and I know there is no right or wrong answer,
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Bobby on February 05, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
But Money doesn't give you your health back, times ticking, and I know there is no right or wrong answer,

There are lots of ppl that get health problems without any of the good stuff these pros got

hard labor = bad knees, joints etc
drunks = liver, kidneys

and so on, no glory for these ppl. ALL NEGATIVES!

so the BBs, they at least have something to show for it you know...
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Matt C on February 05, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
Which bodybuilders competing in the chemical era (post 1991) are past 50 and still with us?  I can think of Lou Ferrigno, although he was only in that period briefly.  Sonny Schmidt and Don Youngblood are both dead.  Any others?
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: cht868 on February 05, 2008, 10:34:29 AM
i would bet ronnie will be using large amounts of gear until the day he dies, the man absolutly loves lifting "light weights baby"

jay on the other hand, will probably not be into the hardcore lifting lifestyle after he retires
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: candidizzle on February 05, 2008, 10:37:35 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?
i recentluy heard from  a pretty solid source that ronnie does 35 iu's of slin per day. no joke.

....but i thought milos said anything over 5iu's per day was a waste???
lol...

ronnies a fucking savage for the doseages he takes.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: SteelePegasus on February 05, 2008, 10:50:56 AM
dude..I know tons of people that do "recreational" drugs as part of their daily lives. I know tons of people that eat at mcdonalds and other fast food joints on a regular basis.

there are people that do drugs, eat fast food, drink and don't work out..oddly enough they are the ones that will live the longest


* I am sure that working 20 years on a construction site can't be good for you long term. 

* I am sure that most of the every day products that we use are destroying us

* how the fuck can a microwave be safe?  :-\

long story short: enjoy life

Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: affeman on February 05, 2008, 10:55:51 AM
But Money doesn't give you your health back, times ticking, and I know there is no right or wrong answer,

Wenn Jay wirklich dieses Jahr nach der 3. Sandow aufhört wie er gesagt hat (mit 35?) kommt er vielleicht gesundheitlich mit nem blauen Auge davon.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: McFarland on February 05, 2008, 11:01:28 AM
Which bodybuilders competing in the chemical era (post 1991) are past 50 and still with us?  I can think of Lou Ferrigno, although he was only in that period briefly.  Sonny Schmidt and Don Youngblood are both dead.  Any others?

Interesting observation as usual Matt. 
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Topskin69 on February 05, 2008, 07:14:37 PM

Did Milos actully say that anything over 5 I.U.s is a waste? If he did he is a complete jackass for making a statement like this to the public...

I had a brief conversation with Hide a few months ago... he told me that Milos had him and the rest of the IFBB pros he trained take 15 I.U.s pre workout then another 15 I.U.s post workout!! A staggering amount to be sure... this was in addition to his Vitargo/creatine/glutamine/amino acid shakes...

M!
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 05, 2008, 07:35:49 PM
dude..I know tons of people that do "recreational" drugs as part of their daily lives. I know tons of people that eat at mcdonalds and other fast food joints on a regular basis.

there are people that do drugs, eat fast food, drink and don't work out..oddly enough they are the ones that will live the longest


* I am sure that working 20 years on a construction site can't be good for you long term. 

* I am sure that most of the every day products that we use are destroying us

* how the fuck can a microwave be safe?  :-\

long story short: enjoy life



Couldn't agree more.

People that talk about Jay's and Ronnie's lives being shortened don't get it. It's all about enjoying what you do, and I bet Jay and Ronnie are satisfied with life and their careers. Some may not approve, but I doubt they care.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: TrueGrit on February 05, 2008, 07:47:24 PM
i recentluy heard from  a pretty solid source that ronnie does 35 iu's of slin per day. no joke.

....but i thought milos said anything over 5iu's per day was a waste???
lol...

ronnies a fucking savage for the doseages he takes.

who?
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 05, 2008, 11:01:33 PM
my take

Ronnie will train until the end...One can tell he just loves to train...Nobody can like to go that heavy all the time and not love training...Ronnie has a certain peace to him...He could blow thru all his money and live in a one bedroom apartment and would probably be content as long as he has access to a gym

Jay on the other hand trains because he has to(the demons in his head make him do it)...I think he is a head case who like alot of bodybuilders won't really know what to do with himself when its all said and done...I think stress will get the best of Jay and probably put him down for good...

So Ronnie will have no regrets and Jay on the other hand may just end up in a padded room...
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: divcom on February 06, 2008, 12:04:43 AM
How do you (all) know Ronnie and Jay will die at 50?  Keith Richards and Ozzie are still around.  Dont tell me their bodies and brains arent f##ked up.  As with cigarettes...once you quit...you get years back on your life.  The body does natural repair work.  Just make sure they dont out live some of you fools.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: divcom on February 06, 2008, 12:09:35 AM
my take

Ronnie will train until the end...One can tell he just loves to train...Nobody can like to go that heavy all the time and not love training...Ronnie has a certain peace to him...He could blow thru all his money and live in a one bedroom apartment and would probably be content as long as he has access to a gym

Jay on the other hand trains because he has to(the demons in his head make him do it)...I think he is a head case who like alot of bodybuilders won't really know what to do with himself when its all said and done...I think stress will get the best of Jay and probably put him down for good...

So Ronnie will have no regrets and Jay on the other hand may just end up in a padded room...


Would have to disagree on the Jay.  Yep...he does it for the money but he also has someone to look forward to when the day is done...if she dont leave him.  Then...I could see him looking around for something.  Ronnie just has the small town Southern thing going on...so he'll be ok with or w/out.  If his woman isnt a fake...he should be ok in Arlington doing the PT police thing, enjoying his cash, hitting gym and relaxing.  If she takes him to the cleaners...then he'll be looking for Alti who should have been 1st team.


Peace.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Jussup on February 06, 2008, 12:59:40 AM
My take: Both Jay and Ronnie will be fine due to their horse genetics. If they didn't have those genetics, they would already have been harmed a long time ago.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: musclehedz on February 06, 2008, 01:03:58 AM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?

What's wrong with their health and what can you prove?

We still see most bodybuilders from the 70's living a healthy life. And back then we knew nothing about drugs.

It's not as bad as it looks. They are not regular users, they know their shit.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 06, 2008, 01:27:49 AM
My take: Both Jay and Ronnie will be fine due to their horse genetics. If they didn't have those genetics, they would already have been harmed a long time ago.

Ronnie has almost a decade on Jay...A lot can go wrong with Jay in the next 10 years...Hopefully not though...They are all testing there constitutions for sure...
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: webcake on February 06, 2008, 01:30:48 AM
As long as when they retire, they retire everything. Im sure that if Jay were to retire in the next few years and no more gear, he shouldn't have done too much damage to himself. We can all say that they will not make it past 50, but we don't know anything. There smart, they'll know whats best for them.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: BM OUT on February 06, 2008, 05:10:20 AM
Lets see,they both made a career of something they like doing.They get paid to lift and train.They have fame[in a small community,but its still fame]and will probably die at a younger age then many Americans,but will die well off, and looking large and being strong..Now lets look at the average American.Works a job he hates.Doesn't make enough money to live a great life.No fame,no fortune and lives until hes 75-80 with oatmeal running down the corner of his mouth,alone,penniless in a nursing home pissing on himself.I think Id pick Ronnie's or Jays life.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Stark on February 06, 2008, 06:44:47 AM
Lets see,they both made a career of something they like doing.They get paid to lift and train.They have fame[in a small community,but its still fame]and will probably die at a younger age then many Americans,but will die well off, and looking large and being strong..Now lets look at the average American.Works a job he hates.Doesn't make enough money to live a great life.No fame,no fortune and lives until hes 75-80 with oatmeal running down the corner of his mouth,alone,penniless in a nursing home pissing on himself.I think Id pick Ronnie's or Jays life.

Jay doesn't like what he is doing, he said himself he cannot wait to retire from BBing.
I rather life to 79 without a lot of Money (life is not all about money)
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: BM OUT on February 06, 2008, 07:58:47 AM
Life isnt about money,its about quality of life.Most Americans live a crappy quality of life.Work 8-12 hours a day 6 days a week,come home,plop yourself on a couch and wait to do it untill the next day to do it all again,and live for one day a week.Jay and Ronnie get to train,travel,compete,get pics in magazines,be idolised and live a good quality of life.Its not even close.By the way,living a long time doesnt mean crap.If you do nothing but work and struggle for your time here on earth,your a looser and you die a looser.
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 06, 2008, 05:41:17 PM
Life isn't about money,its about quality of life.Most Americans live a crappy quality of life.Work 8-12 hours a day 6 days a week,come home,plop yourself on a couch and wait to do it until the next day to do it all again,and live for one day a week.Jay and Ronnie get to train,travel,compete,get pics in magazines,be idolised and live a good quality of life.Its not even close.By the way,living a long time doesn't mean crap.If you do nothing but work and struggle for your time here on earth,your a looser and you die a looser.

Greatness is not what you do but what you do for others...Filling your body with MASSIVE amounts of what the body deems poison(after a certain amount)eating enough food for 5 people and being talk a figure for a movement or cult that supports such actions is far from noble....In fact its quite the opposite...There are Shamans in Peru and other countries who would laugh at the "quality of life" that us capitalist live...Its all about good energy and bad energy not be idolised by a bunch of lost souls who's minds are being filled with poison...
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: CigaretteMan on February 06, 2008, 05:44:07 PM
And they finally admit (to themself of course) that the massive drug usage wasn't such a good idea to
begin with.
Do you think with all their money they are still happy?

  In Ronnie's case I think it was pretty good. I mean, he made at least a million in prize money, guest posings seminars and endorsement contracts. Do you really think he would have made that kind of dough with a degree in accounting from Gramblin university?
Title: Re: So in a couple of years when Ronnie and Jay C. look back...
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 06, 2008, 05:46:04 PM
  In Ronnie's case I think it was pretty good. I mean, he made at least a million in prize money, guest posings seminars and endorsement contracts. Do you really think he would have made that kind of dough with a degree in accounting from Gramblin university?

yes i agree...He does look like he spends his money foolishly though...