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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
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yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
exactly.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
HAHAHAHA "narsissic diety" and other Dorian fans always resort to "Hardness" or other elements that one can not see in pics or in person when trying to justify whenever Dorian looks worse than others in comparison.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
POLL : Squad thinks if a bunch of ignorant people all claim the same think they're right , great logic its called the appeal to numbers , as far as density & conditioning are concerned ( hardness & dryness for you simple people ) Dorian and Shawn Ray are easily handing Nasser his ass in that pic
Nasser in that shot is softer than the Stay-Puff Marshmellow man and he's holding a film of water , anyone who thinks Nasser is comparable in ANY context of the back ( other than width he better be comparable in with he's a hell of a lot heavier ) no absolutely NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding
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POLL : Squad thinks if a bunch of ignorant people all claim the same think they're right , great logic its called the appeal to numbers , as far as density & conditioning are concerned ( hardness & dryness for you simple people ) Dorian and Shawn Ray are easily handing Nasser his ass in that pic
Nasser in that shot is softer than the Stay-Puff Marshmellow man and he's holding a film of water , anyone who thinks Nasser is comparable in ANY context of the back ( other than width he better be comparable in with he's a hell of a lot heavier ) no absolutely NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding
Genetically, individuals are more or less prone to hold fat and water in certain bodyparts than others. Therefore, you can't simply say, his back or his glutes are less detailed therefore he is holding more water and is softer. Look at the other bodparts - delts, arms, hamstrings - Dorian is holding more fat/water than Nasser in those bodyparts. OVERALL Nasser is beating Dorian in that pose, and whoever disagrees is completely DELUSIONAL
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Genetically, individuals are more or less prone to hold fat and water in certain bodyparts than others. Therefore, you can't simply say, his back or his glutes are less detailed therefore he is holding more water and is softer. Look at the other bodparts - delts, arms, hamstrings - Dorian is holding more fat/water than Nasser in those bodyparts. OVERALL Nasser is beating Dorian in that pose, and whoever disagrees is completely DELUSIONAL
His hamstrings are obscured thats clearly visible his entire back is soft , I said his delts & arms look good but as a whole he's getting his ass handed to him by both Yates & Ray
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ND, does Dorian look "harder" than Nasser in this pic too? ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199075.0;attach=231799;image)
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ND, does Dorian look "harder" than Nasser in this pic too? ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199075.0;attach=231799;image)
Did you ever read the review of the 1996 Mr Olympia? ;)
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Let me tell you what is going to happen. ND will post good Yates shots and shitty Nasser shots. Big Bobs will do the opposite. Hulkster will come in with Ronnie shots and they'll bitch about calves, guts and poses for twelve pages.
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Let me tell you what is going to happen. ND will post good Yates shots and shitty Nasser shots. Big Bobs will do the opposite. Hulkster will come in with Ronnie shots and they'll bitch about calves, guts and poses for twelve pages.
the funny thing is that even in the good Dorian shots and the so called "bad" Nasser shots Nasser still at least equals him if not beats him.
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the funny thing is that even in the good Dorian shots and the so called "bad" Nasser shots Nasser still at least equals him if not beats him.
I am the the biggest Dorian fan around, but in those shots Nasser beats in him in symmetry and conditioning IMO.
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I was at that show and I would have had Nasser 1st and Shawn Ray 2nd with Dorian 3rd
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
I always was a Dorian fan but I call it like it is... Nasser is kicking his ass in that shot...
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ND, does Dorian look "harder" than Nasser in this pic too? ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199075.0;attach=231799;image)
no... He does not look harder and if Nasser rolls his shoulders back and flares his lats instead of crunching down to show abs he wins this shot too... Nasser's front lat spread would have rivaled Yates or bested him if he hit properly...
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yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
very true:
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Did you ever read the review of the 1996 Mr Olympia? ;)
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here we go...
all visuals in bodybuilding are bullshit blah blah blah.
of course the only reason ND does this is because visuals show how overrated dorian was.
if they showed how continuously amazing he was compared to his competitors during his reign, ND would be campaining for the use of visuals everywhere. but he doesn't. for good reason.. :-\
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Dorian winning all of the O's he did almost completely ruins an otherwise spectacular decade of bodybuilding. How can people honestly believe he deserved to win as much as he did? You have to truly be lying to yourself. ???
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Hey Squad, check out this shot.
No arms.. :-\
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HAHAHAHA "narsissic diety" and other Dorian fans always resort to "Hardness" or other elements that one can not see in pics or in person when trying to justify whenever Dorian looks worse than others in comparison.
That's because Nasser usually come in smoother than a babies butt.
That si the FIRST pic I have ever seen of Nasser's back where it did not look like dog crap.
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Dorian winning all of the O's he did almost completely ruins an otherwise spectacular decade of bodybuilding. How can people honestly believe he deserved to win as much as he did? You have to truly be lying to yourself. ???
ask ND.
he is either lying to himself or just stupid.
I vote stupid. :-*
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Nasser should have beat Dorian atleast once, and deffinatley wins that shot. Both Dorian and Nasser own Ronnie Coleman though.
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HAHAHAHA "narsissic diety" and other Dorian fans always resort to "Hardness" or other elements that one can not see in pics or in person when trying to justify whenever Dorian looks worse than others in comparison.
from the front it seems as though dorian hardly EVER looked better than his competitors..
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and yet idiot nuthuggers like ND lobby to try and get people to believe that dorian was fairly and accurately scored LOL
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thankfully, no one does!
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here we go...
all visuals in bodybuilding are bullshit blah blah blah.
of course the only reason ND does this is because visuals show how overrated dorian was.
if they showed how continuously amazing he was compared to his competitors during his reign, ND would be campaining for the use of visuals everywhere. but he doesn't. for good reason.. :-\
That's funny considering ND has posted more photos on this forum than anyone else ::)
I'm embarrassed that you were awarded a degree by an accredited university :-X
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That's funny considering ND has posted more photos on this forum than anyone else ::)
I'm embarrassed that you were awarded a degree by an accredited university :-X
and if you had a brain you would notice that most of the photos are of dorian standing by himself..or precontest..
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my university was right on! its prestige went up even higher the year I graduated! :P 8)
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and if you had a brain you would notice that most of the photos are of dorian standing by himself..or precontest..
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my university was right on! its prestige went up even higher the year I graduated! :P 8)
Nope, he posted all kinds of contest scans. He could only post what was printed in the magazine.
Nothing compares to the 93 precontest video on YouTube anyways.
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and if you had a brain you would notice that most of the photos are of dorian standing by himself..or precontest..
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my university was right on! its prestige went up even higher the year I graduated! :P 8)
WRONG I posted tons of pics of Yates blowing his competition out of the water and your response was Yates is getting beat ::) you see what you want and find consolidation with like minded people it doesn't mean you're right in fact you're wrong because 13 judges say so
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here we go...
all visuals in bodybuilding are bullshit blah blah blah.
of course the only reason ND does this is because visuals show how overrated dorian was.
if they showed how continuously amazing he was compared to his competitors during his reign, ND would be campaining for the use of visuals everywhere. but he doesn't. for good reason.. :-\
Thats 1993 are you now claiming that Dillett beat Yates too? you also claimed Yates lost to Flex in 1993 lol again I don't post pics as much because whats the reason? You're ignorant and see what you want , you're just simply ignorant you're the complete idiot who claimed Dorian lost in 1993 again what do you know? nothing you look at the visuals and see what you want it 9 times out of 10 it contradicts the facts.
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ask ND.
he is either lying to himself or just stupid.
I vote stupid. :-*
No you vote smart ;)
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Hey Squad, check out this shot.
No arms.. :-\
Hey check out Nasser's forearms oh wait they don't count ::) and neither does his long torso and short legs , again its obvious you don't know how contests are judged
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Hey Squad, check out this shot.
No arms.. :-\
On Levrone, you mean?
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Here is a shot of Nasser's back when it was hard & dry again the heavier he became he couldn't replicate that same level of hardness & detail and dryness
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yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
Pithy
Nasser destroying Yates.
Narc Deity firing more blanks with internet diarrhea.
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Pithy
Nasser destroying Yates.
Narc Deity firing more blanks with internet diarrhea.
Thanks for proving my point you can't debate intelligently so what do you do? make blanket statements and personal attacks , as usual you have nothing.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
I say Mr.Ray is wrecking shop !!
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Dorian had a good back and superb conditioning.
nasser beat him on absolutely everything else. on every pose except the back lat spread and side triceps, nasser destroyed him.
i've always said conditioning is less important than muscle development. the former is subject to dietary fuckups and can change by the minute. the latter is far more permanent.
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Dorian had a good back and superb conditioning.
nasser beat him on absolutely everything else. on every pose except the back lat spread and side triceps, nasser destroyed him.
i've always said conditioning is less important than muscle development. the former is subject to dietary fuckups and can change by the minute. the latter is far more permanent.
Well, that would be an incorrect assessment regarding the importance of condition. How else do you explain the fact that Flex routinely defeated Nasser despite a 50lb weight disadvantage? Everyone was playing Dorian's old game, he was playing the new game, condition.
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squad you keep owning this diet boy yet he comes back for more.
i don't think anyone on getbig is owned more than diety. Nasser kills dorian the fat tattooed former racist and olympia thief
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Well, that would be an incorrect assessment regarding the importance of condition. How else do you explain the fact that Flex routinely defeated Nasser despite a 50lb weight disadvantage? Everyone was playing Dorian's old game, he was playing the new game, condition.
flex had better muscle shape and proportion. i'm a huge nasser fan, but i can't deny that at his prime flex looked like a work of art. even with worse conditioning i'd still say a prime flex is better than a prime nasser. and it really does pain me to say that since nasser is the man that got me starting lifting.
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nasser is the man that got me starting lifting.
same here, bro. The first bodybuilding mag I ever bought was a Muscle & Fitness with the 99 Arnold Classic report. Nasser won 1st place and instantly became my fav. bodybuilder.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
agreed. also one thing is that if you look at the shot, dorian doesnt have near as much oil on him as shawn or nasser. this could help explain why people think he is so much 'harder' than the other guys, but it is really the fact that with less oil he doesnt have as much shine, giving him a rougher look.
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I think then dorian nut huggers are referring to dorian's hardness, they've acquired first hand experience of it by having their lips wrapped around dorians cock
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WRONG I posted tons of pics of Yates blowing his competition out of the water and your response was Yates is getting beat ::) you see what you want and find consolidation with like minded people it doesn't mean you're right in fact you're wrong because 13 judges say so
how id yates win the symmetry round with a perfect score despite a torn bi, tri and quad? biased judges, duh
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how id yates win the symmetry round with a perfect score despite a torn bi, tri and quad? biased judges, duh
Dorian was an asskisser to the judges. I know for a fact that he had the home phone numbers of a whole bunch of them and would ring them before the shows and try to charm them. This scumbag would do anything to win, except have the best body.
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yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
agreed
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how id yates win the symmetry round with a perfect score despite a torn bi, tri and quad? biased judges, duh
there hasn't been a mr O since bannout that deserved to win the symmetry round. gaspari was a lot more symmetrical than haney, shawn and levrone more than yates, flex and cormier more than ronnie, vic and dex more than cutler.
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Why was Nasser the ONLY pro in the Olympia 96 to get a STANDING OVATION??? Was it because Dorian and Shawn's packages were better? ::)
By the way Yates did not have harder legs than Naser - HE TORE BOTH QUADS, HIS RIGHT HIP (there is a long scar visible but mostly never shown, sometimes you can see it in his side chest pose). And in the 1997 Olympia Yates also had a torn left biceps, so with multiple torn muscles he still looked better AND HARDER? ???
By the way fresh torn muscles like Yates had when he tore his left triceps less the eight weeks before the 97 Olympia DO HOLD WATER. Yates did not undergo triceps surgery before the 97 Olympia because he would not have made it, but he got signalled that he would win if he would retreat afterwards from further competition.
So with a torn biceps, torn triceps, torn left quad, torn right quad, torn right hip, etc Yates wins still with a perfect score in 1997? All this counts less because of Nasser's "bad" back.
Also there was NEVER EVER any talk about Nasser's weak forearms since recently on getbig.com. Huge Nasser's forearms HAVE NEVER BEEN CRITISIZED BY ANY OF THE JUDGES OF FLEX OR OTHER MAGAZINES.
By the way Yates' forearms looked relatively big because of his relatively smaller, then still untorn arm.
Forearms do not decide a Mr. Olympia outcome, and neither do calves otherwise most black guys except Dillett and Vince Taylor (who have great calves) would never place in the top of any show. Nasser had much greater calves than standard, but you guys think with bigger forearms Nasser could have only then beat the field, but again, the calves do not count because they are less important than forearms?
Nasser, with ONE torn muscle would have never ever seen the top 6 ever again!!!
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I think then dorian nut huggers are referring to dorian's hardness, they've acquired first hand experience of it by having their lips wrapped around dorians cock
LOL! Quote of this thread!
I say Mr.Ray is wrecking shop !!
No, he's too small to fairly compare to them. A starving African would probably also rival Dorian and Nasser in hardness and muscle detail.
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bigbobs is clearly the most delusional person on getbig, wake up... nasser was never good enough to beat yates in any year.. i dont care what photo you show me the results were in a some years ago now and dorian won in a landslide...
get over the whole nasser was robbed issue. he was just a overrated wife beating piece of shit ;D
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I think then dorian nut huggers are referring to dorian's hardness, they've acquired first hand experience of it by having their lips wrapped around dorians cock
Precisely.
Agreed that muscular development > conditioning if one must choose, which leaves Yates in the dust every time.
And yes, part of Yates' "grainy" look besides the bacne was in fact less oil.
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how id yates win the symmetry round with a perfect score despite a torn bi, tri and quad? biased judges, duh
One all rounds are physique rounds and keeping that in mind thats exactly how Yates won the symmetry round , do you have any idea what this means?
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Going on pics its very close between Nasser and Yates but seeing it on video is allot different. In the video Yates is way more conditioned then anybody else with Ray close behind. I'm sure if anybody was there live they could give of a more accurate account.
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Going on pics its very close between Nasser and Yates but seeing it on video is allot different. In the video Yates is way more conditioned then anybody else with Ray close behind. I'm sure if anybody was there live they could give of a more accurate account.
Yeah, because Nasser just has some mystique about him where he looks good in pictures but the pictures are actually lying because in videos or in person he looks worse. Yates has a mystique about him where in person he has a certain "hardness" that you can see but not in pictures ::)
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Oh my, Dorian is owned here sooooooo bad. :-[
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199076.0;attach=231817;image)
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Going on pics its very close between Nasser and Yates but seeing it on video is allot different. In the video Yates is way more conditioned then anybody else with Ray close behind. I'm sure if anybody was there live they could give of a more accurate account.
I've looked on youtube for a comparison vid but to no avail. Would be interested to see which roided up GH freak really won this shitty trophy, (Seriously).
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Oh my, Dorian is owned here sooooooo bad. :-[
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199076.0;attach=231817;image)
But according to ND his forearms are bigger than Nasser's therefore he wins the pose! ::)
Keep in mind that pic is in 95 - by 97 Dorian continued getting worse and Nasser continued getting even better.
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yates is all back....shitty arms, calves bigger than his thighs....other than showing up
dry, he is SOOOOOOOO fucking overrated
Could not have said it better mate.
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But according to ND his forearms are bigger than Nasser's therefore he wins the pose! ::)
Keep in mind that pic is in 95 - by 97 Dorian continued getting worse and Nasser continued getting even better.
Don't presume to speak for me , NO Dorian wins the pose because he's satisfies the criteria better and its true while Dorian did continue to decline Nasser did get ' better ' it speaks volumes on how much better Yates was that even at his worse he could defeat Nasser with ease
Again if you think Dorian is losing that shot because one bicep is shorter than the other it shows you don't have a grasp of how contests are judged , Nasser's long torso , short legs and weak forearms are all liabilities in this pose compared to Dorian , now couple that with Dorian have comparable muscular bulk , better conditioning & density . Dorian is easily beating both in this pose.
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Don't presume to speak for me , NO Dorian wins the pose because he's satisfies the criteria better and its true while Dorian did continue to decline Nasser did get ' better ' it speaks volumes on how much better Yates was that even at his worse he could defeat Nasser with ease
Again if you think Dorian is losing that shot because one bicep is shorter than the other it shows you don't have a grasp of how contests are judged , Nasser's long torso , short legs and weak forearms are all liabilities in this pose compared to Dorian , now couple that with Dorian have comparable muscular bulk , better conditioning & density . Dorian is easily beating both in this pose.
I just can not see it, Dorian was good but it looks like i need some special glasses, I am missing something.
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Funny how you guys say that Nasser has short legs, as though his legs are like Lee Priest's. Based on the photos you can not even see or say that Nasser's legs are short. They may give the illusion of being short since they are so thick, but that's like seeing Nasser standing at almost 6 feet tall and saying he is only 5'7" because of his thickness. And even if Nasser's legs were one or two inches shorter, aren't Yates his biceps short, his muscles multiple times torn - and we could also establish the thesis that his upper body was shorter than Nasser but still longer than Coleman's - so what does any of that prove?
Yates did not have detail despite "hardness", still torn muscles - unlike ANYONE else in ALL of bodybuilding history to win with such a perfect score sheet!
So, it must be then that Yates was superior to everyone else, even with torn muscles, short upper body, thick waist, tiny arms (a Mr. USA overall champ has better arms!)....just unbeatable. Definately a true nubaine warrior! ::)
Also, if Nasser was "dwarfed by Quinn" and Nasser was bigger than Yates, wouldn't Quinn just "double-dwarf" Yates?
Also, very strange that Quinn, after his return to the IFBB and before he switched over to the IBB from the WBF federation, was NEVER compared to Yates? Hmm, very strange, probably because they did not want Quinn to dwarf Dorian and kill Dorian with his hardness.
At least Quinn and Yates are equal on the nubaine field.
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Here is the video of Yates you have to wait alil the first part is 93.
Couldnt find anything for Nasser.
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Not a Dorian fan, but theres a reason contests are judged in person and not by pics over a decade later.
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what do you guys think? i say Dorian MAYBE A LITTLE drier than Nasser but Nasser is destroying him on detail, thickness, taper and overall size, look at the arms and legs let alone the back.
This picture is from the 1996 Olympia when Nasser failed the diuretic test, so why are you using it? Doesen't that immediately disqualify his physique? I was there in 1996, and Nasser had to return his medal.
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This picture is from the 1996 Olympia when Nasser failed the diuretic test, so why are you using it? Doesen't that immediately disqualify his physique? I was there in 1996, and Nasser had to return his medal.
lets say he never failed the diuretics test and lost his placing he was in THIRD place behind a 205 pound Shawn Ray its not like he was going to beat Yates
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This picture is from the 1996 Olympia when Nasser failed the diuretic test, so why are you using it? Doesen't that immediately disqualify his physique? I was there in 1996, and Nasser had to return his medal.
hahahahhaa, yeah ok, as if Dorian and Shawn didn't use diuretics. ::)
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hahahahhaa, yeah ok, as if Dorian and Shawn didn't use diuretics. ::)
The difference is they didn't get caught
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The difference is they didn't get caught
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lets say he never failed the diuretics test and lost his placing he was in THIRD place behind a 205 pound Shawn Ray its not like he was going to beat Yates
I personally disagree with Shawn defeating Naser tht year. Sorry. Nasser was disqualified, but if he looked like that without lasiz he should ahve beat Shawn.
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Thats the best you could manage? again its a game maybe Yates & Ray did use diuretics the difference is they didn't get caught , and ontop of that Nasser couldn't manage to beat a 205 pound Shawn Ray nevermind Dorian Yates ever wonder why?
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Thats the best you could manage? again its a game maybe Yates & Ray did use diuretics the difference is they didn't get caught , and ontop of that Nasser couldn't manage to beat a 205 pound Shawn Ray nevermind Dorian Yates ever wonder why?
hahahahhaa, ride Dorian's dick all you want but Nasser is COMPLETELY DESTROYING both Dorian and Shawn here.
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Nasser is a 0x Mr. Olympia. Dorian is 6x ;D
Dorian was just too massive and conditioned for the watery massive Nasser.
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hahahahhaa, ride Dorian's dick all you want but Nasser is COMPLETELY DESTROYING both Dorian and Shawn here.
The fact that you think thats clearly shows how little you know , Nasser's back sucks compared to both in fact he's soft from the rear , look at the pictures from 1994 V 1997 his back actually looked very good at one point and digressed with more size he added
do yourself a favor go and learn what judges look for
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hahaha.......all the Nasser fags just can't handle the pawning that Yates gave Nasser.......get over it already
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The fact that you think thats clearly shows how little you know , Nasser's back sucks compared to both in fact he's soft from the rear , look at the pictures from 1994 V 1997 his back actually looked very good at one point and digressed with more size he added
do yourself a favor go and learn what judges look for
There's also the SIZE factor you're leaving out of the equation in your 94-97 comparison. Otherwise, why would the judges reward his 97 physique much higher than 94? Since you always resort to what "judges" look for ::)
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hahaha.......all the Nasser fags just can't handle the pawning that Yates gave Nasser.......get over it already
Ya the keg's really handling Nasser here you idiot lol
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do yourself a favor go and learn what judges look for
This "authority" on judging criteria can't even explain some of the contest decisions, such as Columbu over Padilla in '81 bwahahahahaha
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There's also the SIZE factor you're leaving out of the equation in your 94-97 comparison. Otherwise, why would the judges reward his 97 physique much higher than 94? Since you always resort to what "judges" look for ::)
yeah a CONDITIONED size factor not a soft size factor and again it depends on his competition that particular year
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yeah a CONDITIONED size factor not a soft size factor and again it depends on his competition that particular year
yeah Nasser is really "soft" here. ::)
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This "authority" on judging criteria can't explain Columbu over Padilla in '81 bwahahahahaha
I never said I was the ' authority ' but I sure as hell know a LOT more than you guys , you idiots are claiming a guy with one of the worse backs is actually beating a guy in a back pose who has the very best great logic , and I will explain 1981 when you explain 2001/2002
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Show me a picture where Nasser is remotely as thick from the sides and dry like this....
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I never said I was the ' authority ' but I sure as hell know a LOT more than you guys , you idiots are claiming a guy with one of the worse backs is actually beating a guy in a back pose who has the very best great logic , and I will explain 1981 when you explain 2001/2002
You mean when Coleman was booed off stage?
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Ya the keg's really handling Nasser here you idiot lol
get over it already......fuckin whinebag
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Or like this
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yeah Nasser is really "soft" here. ::)
Yeah he absolutely is , just look at the two pictures I posted of Nasser and look at the difference between hardness and dryness , his teres , traps , lats , and spinal erectors are all clearly defined and sharp 1996 its not visible ever wonder why? because he's soft & holding water , his glutes aren't striated , his hams are blurry he is lacking in muscle density & extreme dryness in that particular shot the case is proven , stop making empty claims and appeals to like minded ignorant people who seek comfort in numbers
in this back double biceps shot Nasser is hard & dry , now take a wild guess which version it is
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Or like this
If you have to resort to twisting ab shots to make the case for the keg it's o-v-e-r lol
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Show me a picture where Nasser is remotely as thick from the sides and dry like this....
paper thin and vascular as fuck.........damn
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Yeah he absolutely is , just look at the two pictures I posted of Nasser and look at the difference between hardness and dryness , his teres , traps , lats , and spinal erectors are all clearly defined and sharp 1996 its not visible ever wonder why? because he's soft & holding water , his glutes aren't striated , his hams are blurry he is lacking in muscle density & extreme dryness in that particular shot the case is proven , stop making empty claims and appeals to like minded ignorant people who seek comfort in numbers
in this back double biceps shot Nasser is hard & dry , now take a wild guess which version it is
it's official.....you're crazy, there's no talking sense to you.
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You mean when Coleman was booed off stage?
No he dominated according to these idiots , he dominated by winning by just 4 points
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yeah a CONDITIONED size factor not a soft size factor and again it depends on his competition that particular year
So you're saying the competition in 94 was so much more fierce that a 1st or 2nd place in 97 translates to a 7th in 94? ::)
Yeah he absolutely is , just look at the two pictures I posted of Nasser and look at the difference between hardness and dryness , his teres , traps , lats , and spinal erectors are all clearly defined and sharp 1996 its not visible ever wonder why? because he's soft & holding water , his glutes aren't striated , his hams are blurry he is lacking in muscle density & extreme dryness in that particular shot the case is proven , stop making empty claims and appeals to like minded ignorant people who seek comfort in numbers
in this back double biceps shot Nasser is hard & dry , now take a wild guess which version it is
If you look closely at the pic it only looks much different due to the lighting - its harder to show detail in the shade of the 97 pic, but if you look at it the shape in detail in the back is still there. His glutes and hams are just as striated in 97 compared to the 94 pic.
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Nasser had super wide clavicles and enormous quads which made him dominant in the abs-and-thigh, but his enormous skeleton took awasy from the flow of his muscles. He was too flawed to compare to Dorian at his best. Sorry. Two different calibers of bodybuilder. That's what Nasser had on Dorian:
- Absolute size - enormous frame
- Quads.
- Abs.
that's it. Dorian carried far more mass when you take frame into account and conditioning and he had more complete development. the end.
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Nasser had super wide clavicles and enormous quads which made him dominant in the abs-and-thigh, but his enormous skeleton took awasy from the flow of his muscles. He was too flawed to compare to Dorian at his best. Sorry. Two different calibers of bodybuilder. That's what Nasser had on Dorian:
- Absolute size - enormous frame
- Quads.
- Abs.
that's it. Dorian carried far more mass when you take frame into account and conditioning and he had more complete development. the end.
how do you explain these two pics then?
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it's official.....you're crazy, there's no talking sense to you.
Thank you for conceding defeat , again you offer up absolutely NOTHING and rely blanket statements , I showed you proof of what a dense & dry Nasser looks like and what it doesn't look like and what do you do? nothing ;)
You're claiming Nasser is owning Yates in a back shot and I'm crazy? lmmfao Yates who had probaby the best back ever is being beat in a back shot by someone with among the worse
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Nasser had super wide clavicles and enormous quads which made him dominant in the abs-and-thigh, but his enormous skeleton took awasy from the flow of his muscles. He was too flawed to compare to Dorian at his best. Sorry. Two different calibers of bodybuilder. That's what Nasser had on Dorian:
- Absolute size - enormous frame
- Quads.
- Abs.
that's it. Dorian carried far more mass when you take frame into account and conditioning and he had more complete development. the end.
that's what i'm talking bout yo .........go on witch yo bad self
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how do you explain these two pics then?
The front double biceps you could give to Nasser , Yates was depleted and his arms smaller than usual in 96 and Yates admitted that Nasser could perhaps match or beat him in some poses from the front but from the sides and back its game over
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The front double biceps you could give to Nasser , Yates was depleted and his arms smaller than usual in 96 and Yates admitted that Nasser could perhaps match or beat him in some poses from the front but from the sides and back its game over
You contradict yourself! Just earlier today you were saying that Yates was destroying Nasser in a front double biceps pose, even yesterday...and gave some dumb reasons like his forearms are smaller and his torso is too long. Now that you recall yates admitted that Nasser would match or beat him from the front you're changing your stance somewhat. Dorian was the farthest from being humble possible for any Mr. Olympia. He never even admitted that Ronnie Coleman would be able to beat him, so for Dorian to say that Nasser may beat me from the front but not from the back translates to "Nasser destroyed me from the front and was pretty close from the back too"
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So you're saying the competition in 94 was so much more fierce that a 1st or 2nd place in 97 translates to a 7th in 94? ::)
If you look closely at the pic it only looks much different due to the lighting - its harder to show detail in the shade of the 97 pic, but if you look at it the shape in detail in the back is still there. His glutes and hams are just as striated in 97 compared to the 94 pic.
So you're saying the competition in 94 was so much more fierce that a 1st or 2nd place in 97 translates to a 7th in 94? ::)
No it all depends on who competes and what shape they show up in again to many variables
If you look closely at the pic it only looks much different due to the lighting - its harder to show detail in the shade of the 97 pic, but if you look at it the shape in detail in the back is still there. His glutes and hams are just as striated in 97 compared to the 94 pic.
look I don't mind debating bodybuilding but get serious the it only looks different due to lighting get the hell out of here lol no it looks different because his back is actually better and why? it shows better separation & detail of the teres , infraspinatus , traps , lats and spinal erectors its clearly evident in the two if you think they're basically the same just due to lighting you're way far gone than I originally thought
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how do you explain these two pics then?
How do I explain it? You missed the part where I said that I was there. Nasser had visibly bigger quads and superior abs in the abs-and-thighs and he dominated Droain when standing relaxed fro.m the front because his clavicles are so damsn wide! But Dorian had a total development combined with superior dryness which destroyed Nasser
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No it all depends on who competes and what shape they show up in again to many variables
Okay, so I'll rephrase, you're saying that the difference in "who competed and what shape they showed up in and other variables" were so different than what got 7th in 94 would have gotten 1st or 2nd in 97? ::)
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How do I explain it? You missed the part where I said that I was there. Nasser had visibly bigger quads and superior abs in the abs-and-thighs and he dominated Droain when standing relaxed fro.m the front because his clavicles are so damsn wide! But Dorian had a total development combined with superior dryness which destroyed Nasser
Yeah you clearly remember what you say over 10 years ago, and of course Dorian was always unique in that photographs always took away from his strong points and not others' ::)
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You contradict yourself! Just earlier today you were saying that Yates was destroying Nasser in a front double biceps pose, even yesterday...and gave some dumb reasons like his forearms are smaller and his torso is too long. Now that you recall yates admitted that Nasser would match or beat him from the front you're changing your stance somewhat. Dorian was the farthest from being humble possible for any Mr. Olympia. He never even admitted that Ronnie Coleman would be able to beat him, so for Dorian to say that Nasser may beat me from the front but not from the back translates to "Nasser destroyed me from the front and was pretty close from the back too"
No that was NO contradiction it was from the 1995 Mr Olympia NOT the 1996 bit of a difference , Dorian was a hell of a lot fuller in 95 than 96 , he was small and depleted in 1996 and his arms like Coleman 2002 where down in size , a bit of a difference ;)
and again read what you want into Yates' statements the fact you think he's even close to Dorian in the back shows how little you know now couple this statement with that nonsense that his back as virtually the same in 94 compared to 97 but was due to lighting , it just screams " Hey look at me , I don't know the first think about competitive bodybuilding "
Again Nasser was a one dimensional bodybuilder , Mr Olympia from the front and thats it .
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Nasser had definitely the best hands clasped pose in bodybuilding of all times. Beside, he was easily top 3 when standing relaxed from the front. But at everything else, Dorian destroyed hi
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Okay, so I'll rephrase, you're saying that the difference in "who competed and what shape they showed up in and other variables" were so different than what got 7th in 94 would have gotten 1st or 2nd in 97? ::)
Actually the picture I posted was from the 1994 NOC where Nasser placed second to Mike Francios NOT seventn , which compares to 1997 where he got you guessed it , second.
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Nice !
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Actually the picture I posted was from the 1994 NOC where Nasser placed second to Mike Francios NOT seventn , which compares to 1997 where he got you guessed it , second.
Didn't the competition was similar in the 94 NOC as opposed to the 97 Olympia. I guess they shouldnt have had only the top 3 or 4 from the NOC qualifying for the Olympia since a 2nd place a 2nd place NOC physique is actually better than the 2nd place 97 Olympia physique ::)
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Didn't the competition was similar in the 94 NOC as opposed to the 97 Olympia. I guess they shouldnt have had only the top 3 or 4 from the NOC qualifying for the Olympia since a 2nd place a 2nd place NOC physique is actually better than the 2nd place 97 Olympia physique ::)
again his conditioning at the 1994 Mr Olympia could have faded again to many variables and who said it was better? I said his back was better and thats clearly obvious it doesn't mean he was overall better in 1994 he was small he added some size which hurt his back which is one of the reasons it cost him higher placings in 95/96 in 97 and in 97 Shawn was off and Nasser was on hence why he placed second and not lower