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Title: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 07, 2008, 08:21:54 AM
The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK is "unavoidable" and that it would help maintain social cohesion........

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23436203-details/Adoption+of+Islamic+Sharia+law+in+Britain+is+'unavoidable'%2C+says+Archbishop+of+Canterbury/article.do....

Doomed...what the hell is going on in England. Great example of liberal bullshit run amuck. Maybe the Brits will grow some balls and start bouncing these nutjobs....starting with the ArchBishop.....
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Slapper on February 09, 2008, 08:32:28 AM
The more right wing bullshit I hear the more I realise that, in the future, I will be fighting my countrymen and not the real enemies, the dynamite towel-heads.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 09, 2008, 09:11:52 AM
Here's a little clarification, (not that I care what any religious nutjobs that believe in a invisable man have to say),

In a statement on his website, Dr Williams said he certainly did not call for Sharia law to be introduced as some kind of parallel jurisdiction to the civil law.

He also said his principal aim was to explore the broader issues around the rights of religious groups within a secular state


It's basically the same as America's stance that you have to respect/ be tolerant of people's religion. That's nothing new.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop
Post by: Hedgehog on February 10, 2008, 01:44:58 PM
While I don't agree with the good Arch Bishop, in that I believe that the secular laws are always superior to any religious laws, incorrect hateful bullshit propaganda like this article only helps the multi culti huggers.

Because it is incorrect and hateful.

Clowns.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: youandme on February 10, 2008, 02:36:24 PM
You are aware the UK is fuced right? I mean if I pick up a candy bar of Cadberry chocolate in the US, and it has arabic writing on the back, that is the clearest of all clear signs.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Deicide on February 10, 2008, 04:38:13 PM
Religion sucks.  :-X
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: tonymctones on February 11, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
The more right wing bullshit I hear the more I realise that, in the future, I will be fighting my countrymen and not the real enemies, the dynamite towel-heads.
lol that sounds like a great football team
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 11, 2008, 02:00:08 PM
This is right wing bullshit how.....England is in deep shit..if they evn recognize anything called sharia law...tolerenace of relgion does not extend into allowing these people to do anything other then follow British law.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: calmus on February 11, 2008, 05:46:41 PM
This is the resurgence of multiculturalism........ ..I guess the question for a liberal is how liberal we are willing to be?  At bottom, most of us are not going to give up certain western values, no matter how accepting we want to be.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop
Post by: Hedgehog on February 12, 2008, 02:12:26 AM
This is right wing bullshit how.....

In a statement on his website, Dr Williams said he certainly did not call for Sharia law to be introduced as some kind of parallel jurisdiction to the civil law.


And now, from the article you linked to: Other leading bishops publicly contradicted Dr Rowan Williams's call for Islamic law to be brought into the British legal system.


This is how it is bullshit. Right wing, left wing, wing it anyway you want it. It's bullshit.

Because they lied. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 06:30:24 AM
I didn't post it as right/left wing retoric...the fact that it was brought up at all shows how seroius the trouble Britain faces. As we squabble over left and right...the real threat continues to erode Western civilization.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 06:43:40 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/british_bishops_islamic_idiocy_847964.htm

February 11, 2008 -- NOTHING can have prepared Dr. Geoffrey Rowan Williams, the archbishop of Canterbury, for the row that has broken out in Britain over his comments last week that the British adoption of some aspects of sharia law is "unavoidable" and that there is a case for "plural jurisdiction"

........But there are clear limits. Private litigation exists within public law and must conform or yield to it. Private courts can't try criminal law breaches such as a stabbing (though the judgments of medical courts may sometimes lead to criminal prosecution). They can't legalize polygamy. If two parties take a dispute to such a court, both must do so voluntarily.

The public broadly senses that these conditions aren't met in the case of sharia: that informal sharia courts decide criminal cases; that their rulings often offend against civil law; and that some litigants - in particular, Muslim women in marital cases - are taken to such courts against their will and compelled to surrender their rights under British law. It's this widespread unease that explains the strong continuing public reaction to the archbishop's remarks: He seems to be blessing a creeping development in British life that would divide the nation into religious ghettoes, reduce women's rights and abolish one of Britain's proudest achieve- ments: a rule of law that applies equally to everyone
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: calmus on February 12, 2008, 09:26:06 AM
One nation under God.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 12, 2008, 10:50:59 AM
wow that's pretty sad.
 :-\
Hope it doesn't happen here.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
Thats the problem...we always follow suite...after the mother country. I don't think it could happen but...I'm sure there are plenty of Brits in pubs saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Decker on February 12, 2008, 12:34:14 PM
This story is much ado.

In the US, the Constitution always prevails over nutjob religious law.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 12, 2008, 12:42:38 PM
islam is gay
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 12:44:24 PM
Yeah but!!!!....hey if Uncle Sam can roll into ur house..arrest and hold u under Patriot act statutes...then release u with a gag order so u can't talk about said arrest..then I would expect the Lib knee jerk reaction to some muslim BS to be to allow Sharia law in some form...political correctness is out of control here too. Basically we're getting the worst of all possible worlds...erosion of liberties and poltical bs.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Decker on February 12, 2008, 01:49:22 PM
Yeah but!!!!....hey if Uncle Sam can roll into ur house..arrest and hold u under Patriot act statutes...then release u with a gag order so u can't talk about said arrest..then I would expect the Lib knee jerk reaction to some muslim BS to be to allow Sharia law in some form...political correctness is out of control here too. Basically we're getting the worst of all possible worlds...erosion of liberties and poltical bs.
So you see liberals opening the door to arch conservative religious law in the name of political correctness?

That is what we in the legal field call a rightwing fantasy. 

Sure Bush and the republicans rolled on our constitution with the Patriot Act, but that can be fixed (asking an administration like the Bush adm not to make a power grab and exploit 9/11 is like asking a bird not to fly). 

However, if a lot of money could be made based on the implementation of Sharia law in this country, then expect an earnest push to do that.  Otherwise it's just a fantasy.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 03:36:40 PM
The libs are so politically correct that they won't do a thing...thats why Britain is in the trouble their in....cultural sensitivity...clonial guilt....all eroding the British way of life.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: Decker on February 12, 2008, 03:46:32 PM
The libs are so politically correct that they won't do a thing...thats why Britain is in the trouble their in....cultural sensitivity...clonial guilt....all eroding the British way of life.
If that's the case, then where are the obviously weak and dainty British conservatives on this matter?  I mean if the English way of life is at stake, you'd figure the historically stalwart british citizenry would rise up in her defense. 

But I guess the country has devolved into a system of milquetoast conservatives and their liberal masters.

I wonder if those conservative pantywaists in Britain are like the conservatives here in the US that cower in fear from the "liberal media" and "liberal academia"?
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 12, 2008, 03:55:31 PM
I often wonder why we don't come out firing with both barrels...its an argument u hear more and more by conservatives...I don't know about Britain....I suspect Colonial guilt.
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop
Post by: Hedgehog on February 13, 2008, 08:13:01 AM
I didn't post it as right/left wing retoric...the fact that it was brought up at all shows how seroius the trouble Britain faces. As we squabble over left and right...the real threat continues to erode Western civilization.

You posted something that wasn't true.

That always undermines the credibility.

The Arch bishop never said that adoption of Sharia Law was unavoidable.

Whether or not Muslim traditions are flawed is a different matter.

I definitely disagree with the Arch Bishops view that our society should have tolerance for different cultures.

But that doesn't mean I think it is right to lie about what he said.

Do you think it's ok?
Title: Re: Adoption of Islamic Sharia law in Britain is 'unavoidable', says Archbishop of C
Post by: headhuntersix on February 13, 2008, 08:42:21 AM
I have no idea..I read the article and posted it....based on the fact this guy has said other bizarre crap...anything is possible.