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Title: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 07, 2008, 08:09:52 PM


Conservative Political Action Conference is an annual political conference attended by some 6000+ conservatives, activists, and elected officials from across the United States. CPAC began in 1973 as a small gathering of dedicated conservatives but has since grown into a large event attracting members of Congress, college activists, theorists, and other political celebrities. It is hosted by the American Conservative Union in association with sponsors Human Events and the Young America's Foundation. David A. Keene is the chairman of the American Conservative Union. Lisa De Pasquale is director of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).

Previous speakers have included Ronald Reagan, Dick Cheney, Pat Buchanan, Karl Rove, and Newt Gingrich. Before, during, and after his Presidency, Ronald Reagan spoke at CPAC a total of 12 times.

It is not affiliated with the Republican Party and thus attracts a number of non-partisan groups and other like-minded political parties such as the Libertarian Party.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 07, 2008, 08:39:46 PM
Very good video!
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
WHen people like baby brobama are pulling in 20,000+ each time they have a rally, why would we be impressed with Ron Paul's 4k/6k?
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 07, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
When people like baby brobama are pulling in 20,000+ each time they have a rally, why would we be impressed with Ron Paul's 4k/6k?

Gee, let see, he doesn't get invited to debates, gets ignored at debates, has no major media coverage at all, doesn't get money from lobbyists/corporate groups, and he's still in the race and had 6,000 people come listen to him, even after reportidly being in last place after Super Tuesday.

Yeah, nothing special about that.  ::)

I bet even you could get 6,000 people to come see you under those circumstances.

If you had a smidgen of brain power your comments would be amusing. Please try harder next time.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 08:58:20 PM
melt..........wait for it..................down.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 07, 2008, 09:06:15 PM
I'm giving up on you, bud.

Your scraping the bottom of the barrell for material. So soon too, what a shame.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 09:08:22 PM
I'm giving up on you, bud.

Your scraping the bottom of the barrell for material. So soon too, what a shame.

"barrel" not "barrell" :-*
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 09:08:50 PM
watching right now

the problem now is that there are a bunch of smart asses running around still thinking ron paul is crazy they'll wake up when the boot is up their ass.

Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 09:09:31 PM
It's also "you're"

P.S. Serious question: Any numbers on the education level of Ron Paul supporters?
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2008, 09:53:17 PM
It's also "you're"

P.S. Serious question: Any numbers on the education level of Ron Paul supporters?

 :-X   :D
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Straw Man on February 07, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
I like RP and I think he's probably the most honest and genuine person running for office today (perhap even in office) but he's much more a libertarian than a conservative and he would most likely be an absolute disaster for the economy at least in the near term (yes Bush is a colossal disaster too)

The guy who did the intro is former congressman and world class hypocrite Bob Barr - I can't believe he had the balls to refer to the Clinton impeachment trial considering that it was revealed during that time that he had his own extramarital affair.   Since leaving office he's become, among other things, a member of the ACLU,  a vocal opponent of the Patriot Act and has done a complete 180 on his views about marijuana -
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 10:07:54 PM
he would most likely be an absolute disaster for the economy at least in the near term

what do you mean?

if things were to change the best point of change would be in the beginning. Sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 10:09:59 PM
what do you mean?

if things were to change the best point of change would be in the beginning. Sooner rather than later.

Do you have a college degree? What kind of school is it from? Not trying to belittle you (at the moment).  Just genuinely curious. 
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
what do you think?
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 10:18:59 PM
what do you think?

If I were to guess...... I'd say you were in your early twenties or late teens. You probably went/go to college because you seem to genuinely care about "knowing".....but I'd guess you went/go to a school that wasn't/isn't very academically rigorous. 

Now don't get all offended, I'm not trying to be a dick at the moment.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Straw Man on February 07, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
what do you mean?

if things were to change the best point of change would be in the beginning. Sooner rather than later.

Our economy is in bad bad shape and I think RP's tough love would make it even worse.
Actually, now that I think about it we might be FUBAR already.  The Fed has lowered the short end of the yield curve 125 basis points in the last few weeks and yet the long term rates must go up because no one wants to finance our debt.  I don't know but I just think if RP were the Prez we'd go through a lot of pain before things got better but then I think we're headed for a world of pain anyway.  Then again he would get us out of all of out of all of our military misadventures and we'd save a ton of $$$ there.   I don't know man,  This is a complicated case.  A lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous, a lot of strands to keep in my head, man. Lot of strands in old Duder's head
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 10:26:15 PM
If I were to guess...... I'd say you were in your early twenties or late teens. You probably went/go to college because you seem to genuinely care about "knowing".....but I'd guess you went/go to a school that wasn't/isn't very academically rigorous. 

Now don't get all offended, I'm not trying to be a dick at the moment.

no offence taken. you're incorrect

so what do you think should happen, the economy should stay the same or there should be a change?

Forget about ron paul for a second, listen to david walker.

Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 10:34:19 PM
Our economy is in bad bad shape and I think RP's tough love would make it even worse.
Actually, now that I think about it we might be FUBAR already.  The Fed has lowered the short end of the yield curve 125 basis points in the last few weeks and yet the long term rates must go up because no one wants to finance our debt.  I don't know but I just think if RP were the Prez we'd go through a lot of pain before things got better but then I think we're headed for a world of pain anyway.  Then again he would get us out of all of out of all of our military misadventures and we'd save a ton of $$$ there.   I don't know man,  This is a complicated case.  A lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous, a lot of strands to keep in my head, man. Lot of strands in old Duder's head

Ron Paul's view of the world is a pre-1930s view.  Some things you can't turn the clock back on. 

We've got to raise taxes on the well-to-do (I will probably have to pay these, so it's not like i haven't given this serious thought), articulate proper objectives for the revenue, act on those objectives....also need more accountability from the Dept of Def. 

The one thing I'm concerned about with baby brobama is that he hasn't got experience dealing with the DoD (worked on non-prolif leg, but that's not the kind of exper I'm talking about)....but neither has Hillary.  McCain has some.....but obviously I don't agree with him (whenever I can figure out what he stands for).
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Straw Man on February 07, 2008, 10:39:13 PM
Ron Paul's view of the world is a pre-1930s view.  Some things you can't turn the clock back on. 

We've got to raise taxes on the well-to-do (I will probably have to pay these, so it's not like i haven't given this serious thought), articulate proper objectives for the revenue, act on those objectives....also need more accountability from the Dept of Def. 

The one thing I'm concerned about with baby brobama is that he hasn't got experience dealing with the DoD (worked on non-prolif leg, but that's not the kind of exper I'm talking about)....but neither has Hillary.  McCain has some.....but obviously I don't agree with him (whenever I can figure out what he stands for).

I'm in total agreement on the taxes (and it would impact me too) and also the DoD (I think I read that they are so f'd up that it's literally impossible to do a reliable audit)
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 07, 2008, 11:16:59 PM
Our economy is in bad bad shape and I think RP's tough love would make it even worse.
Actually, now that I think about it we might be FUBAR already.  The Fed has lowered the short end of the yield curve 125 basis points in the last few weeks and yet the long term rates must go up because no one wants to finance our debt.  I don't know but I just think if RP were the Prez we'd go through a lot of pain before things got better but then I think we're headed for a world of pain anyway.  Then again he would get us out of all of out of all of our military misadventures and we'd save a ton of $$$ there.   I don't know man,  This is a complicated case.  A lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous, a lot of strands to keep in my head, man. Lot of strands in old Duder's head

Ron's been talking about a reccession before any other candidate even knew what day it was. Just based on that fact alone I trust him more than any other one of these  other canidates.Actions speak louder than words and the man still has 7 million left for his campaign while everyone else is broke and in debt.
You don't have to study economics to know being in debt isn't good for your economy. You can't lower taxes and then spend your way into a better financial situation. Te spending is out of control and that's the meat and potato's of it. The country is handing money to "friends" and borrowing money to fund wars. It's retarded.






Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Straw Man on February 08, 2008, 12:01:50 AM
Ron's been talking about a reccession before any other candidate even knew what day it was. Just based on that fact alone I trust him more than any other one of these  other canidates.Actions speak louder than words and the man still has 7 million left for his campaign while everyone else is broke and in debt.
You don't have to study economics to know being in debt isn't good for your economy. You can't lower taxes and then spend your way into a better financial situation. Te spending is out of control and that's the meat and potato's of it. The country is handing money to "friends" and borrowing money to fund wars. It's retarded.

I like RP and for the most part agree with him on interest rates, money supply, etc... I just think if he were in charge things would get alot worse before they got better.   Lot's of pain.  That's all I'm saying

BTW - does no one recognize a The Big Lebowski reference?  :-\
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 08, 2008, 12:21:51 AM
I like RP and for the most part agree with him on interest rates, money supply, etc... I just think if he were in charge things would get alot worse before they got better.   Lot's of pain.  That's all I'm saying

BTW - does no one recognize a The Big Lebowski reference?  :-\

Havent seen that movie in a long time. I'll have to download it.

I agree, the pain will come, one way or another.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 08, 2008, 12:32:35 AM
Havent seen that movie in a long time. I'll have to download it.



Legal download?
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Straw Man on February 08, 2008, 01:11:00 AM
Legal download?


It's worth owning - I've probably seen it no less than 30 times
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: calmus on February 08, 2008, 01:33:06 AM

It's worth owning - I've probably seen it no less than 30 times

Yeah, I have it.  Coens know how to write.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: stormshadow on February 08, 2008, 06:03:02 AM
Yeah, I have it.  Coens know how to write.

Fixing our currency is rather simple to do, and this would allow people to SAVE.

Nobody saves because of inflation.  You have to gamble in the stock market to try and break even, and we all know how well the average American does in the stock market.  The little guy is used to buy stock, when those in the know are dumping.  Ever hear "Invest for the long term"

How about stopping the printing of new money and allowing people to "SAVE for the long term"

Imagine if you could save a dollar and 5 years later it still had the same purchasing power?

I know this is getbig, so you consider it your duty to take potshots and induce meltdowns, but doesn't it piss you off that the government and the banking elite are allowed to create money?  Do you not feel robbed?  You labor for your money, while the bankers are not only allowed, but protected by the government to counterfit?  Not only that, you HAVE to use their money, you cannot refuse payment made with a federal reserve note.
Title: Re: Ron Paul speaks to 6000 at CPAC today
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 08, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
Fixing our currency is rather simple to do, and this would allow people to SAVE.

Nobody saves because of inflation.  You have to gamble in the stock market to try and break even, and we all know how well the average American does in the stock market.  The little guy is used to buy stock, when those in the know are dumping.  Ever hear "Invest for the long term"

How about stopping the printing of new money and allowing people to "SAVE for the long term"

Imagine if you could save a dollar and 5 years later it still had the same purchasing power?

I know this is getbig, so you consider it your duty to take potshots and induce meltdowns, but doesn't it piss you off that the government and the banking elite are allowed to create money?  Do you not feel robbed?  You labor for your money, while the bankers are not only allowed, but protected by the government to counterfit?  Not only that, you HAVE to use their money, you cannot refuse payment made with a federal reserve note.

Don't even bother , he's in lala land cause if he knew anything about how we are getting fucked over, he would be a little more mature in his posts. Some people are just happy with what they have, no matter how illogical that may be and don't try to look for anything better.