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Title: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: technokc on February 12, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
I understand the idea of the free webcasts is great, but lets be honest the quality has not been up to snuff so far.  I'm sure thes things can work out in the future. . . but my question is for the bigger shows why cant you continue to offer the free webcast and have the show on pay per view for the people willing to pay the money?  It would be so much nicer to watch something like that on the big screen rather than my small computer screen which in the shows so far seem to freeze every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Chick on February 12, 2008, 09:29:06 PM
Perhaps you need to upgrade your computer...we had quite a good response, and many more "never froze once" comments. The notion of putting out a free webcast and one you pay for is ludicrous at best for obvious reasons...

Our intent is to offer free content to bring people to the website, as well as attempt to bring bb to as wide an audience as possible in order to grow the sport
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: HowieW on February 12, 2008, 09:36:54 PM
Perhaps you need to upgrade your computer...we had quite a good response, and many more "never froze once" comments. The notion of putting out a free webcast and one you pay for is ludicrous at best for obvious reasons...

Our intent is to offer free content to bring people to the website, as well as attempt to bring bb to as wide an audience as possible in order to grow the sport

Maybe this guy needs to spend the extra nickel and get his Netzero upgraded to 5x faster hehe.
I think the webcast and comments by those two colorful but loveable knuckleheads from Pro BB weekly are pretty groovy baby.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 12, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
I heard BigNation radio might be webcasting the Olympia this year instead of BB.com!  8)
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Chick on February 12, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
I heard BigNation radio might be webcasting the Olympia this year instead of BB.com!  8)

That would be something....
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 12, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
I heard BigNation radio might be webcasting the Olympia this year instead of BB.com!  8)

You can never under estimate a practicing jew...
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 12, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
Ed is so Jewish he doesn't need to practice...it just comes naturally to him!
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Karl Kox on February 12, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
I think the web cast look great
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Ron on February 12, 2008, 11:44:22 PM
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and have the show on pay per view for the people willing to pay the money?

It isnt that easy. PPV companies take 50%, plus it can cost close to $100K just for the equipment, truck and more for that live feed via satellite. Then, since it is on a Saturday night, you compete against other 'live' events, plus various PPV companies around the US. Then, around the world is a different matter.  PPV also requires a substantial base to subscribe to the event, and bodybuilding doesnt have the fan base like other major events do. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Vince B on February 13, 2008, 12:32:16 AM
I think the webcast and comments by those two colorful but loveable knuckleheads from Pro BB weekly are pretty groovy baby.

Which two knuckleheads are you referring to?
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Atlantic on February 13, 2008, 03:05:24 AM
the webcasts are a gift.  thanks you BBing.com
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Beener on February 13, 2008, 04:35:07 AM
You can never under estimate a practicing jew...

But...then we'd have to pay to view..:S
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: technokc on February 13, 2008, 08:58:49 AM
It isnt that easy. PPV companies take 50%, plus it can cost close to $100K just for the equipment, truck and more for that live feed via satellite. Then, since it is on a Saturday night, you compete against other 'live' events, plus various PPV companies around the US. Then, around the world is a different matter.  PPV also requires a substantial base to subscribe to the event, and bodybuilding doesnt have the fan base like other major events do. Simple as that.


thanks for the response that answers my question.  Didn't realize it was so expensive.  By doing the short math however, wouldn't that mean just over 500 people watching it would bring some sort of return?
Perhaps you need to upgrade your computer...we had quite a good response, and many more "never froze once" comments. The notion of putting out a free webcast and one you pay for is ludicrous at best for obvious reasons...

Our intent is to offer free content to bring people to the website, as well as attempt to bring bb to as wide an audience as possible in order to grow the sport
In response to this, wouldn't making some revunue from these events allow you to have more money to bring more people to bodybuilding, better advertising, production, etc.?  If you really say what you mean "widest audience as possible" you do have to realize what you said about not having it on both is what is ludicrous.  Many people still in this day and age dont have computer access at home, many college students who use school computers for free just for example.
I dont think anyone is going to watch oiled up men in thongs at their local library. ;)
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Chick on February 13, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
thanks for the response that answers my question.  Didn't realize it was so expensive.  By doing the short math however, wouldn't that mean just over 500 people watching it would bring some sort of return?In response to this, wouldn't making some revunue from these events allow you to have more money to bring more people to bodybuilding, better advertising, production, etc.?  If you really say what you mean "widest audience as possible" you do have to realize what you said about not having it on both is what is ludicrous.  Many people still in this day and age dont have computer access at home, many college students who use school computers for free just for example.
I dont think anyone is going to watch oiled up men in thongs at their local library. ;)

You're not using your head...were already spending 6-7K per webcast, by giving it away for free, we are, in effect, growing the fanbase the best way possible...getting people interested in BB first is the key. I'll disagree with your assesment of most people not having access to a computer...

Merely having BB on PPV will not make people interested, as no one is willing to shell out good mney to "see" if it's something they might be ineterested in...

"Widest audience possible"....as in, BB.com is the biggest BB market on the internet...by far.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: technokc on February 13, 2008, 09:14:08 AM
You're not using your head...were already spending 6-7K per webcast, by giving it away for free, we are, in effect, growing the fanbase the best way possible...getting people interested in BB first is the key. I'll disagree with your assesment of most people not having access to a computer...

Merely having BB on PPV will not make people interested, as no one is willing to shell out good mney to "see" if it's something they might be ineterested in...

"Widest audience possible"....as in, BB.com is the biggest BB market on the internet...by far.

You make a good point, maybe it's just the fucked up little world I live in, and my thinking is skewed.  I guess the masses unlike me and some people I train with arent too excited to see these men on their big screen t.v. :P :P
Do you think it will ever be feasible to bring back to ppv?
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Chick on February 13, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
You make a good point, maybe it's just the fucked up little world I live in, and my thinking is skewed.  I guess the masses unlike me and some people I train with arent too excited to see these men on their big screen t.v. :P :P
Do you think it will ever be feasible to bring back to ppv?

Our point is simple...make fans FIRST...then get BB back to PPV, etc.

As Ron said...without a bigger fan base, it's tough to do much more.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 13, 2008, 09:59:37 AM


BB.com  should be applauded for doing the webcast.....how anyone can nitpick over it is beyond me.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: HUGEPECS on February 13, 2008, 10:05:06 AM
with all the money BB.com makes, this shouldn't be a problem
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Slintowin4424 on February 13, 2008, 10:05:59 AM
Im not sure I understand,  are you guys seriously hasseling Chick about giving us something for free how can you even justify that  their was a time when ESPN and fox sports net used to have extensive coverage and it will get back to that IM sure of it,  but I agree the fan base needs to expand hey the more the merrier.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: mass 04 on February 13, 2008, 10:39:17 AM
It's a FREE webcast, what else do you want?
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Chick on February 13, 2008, 10:42:50 AM
I'm not a big tech guy. but from what I've seen on the boards...there are some guys that connect their computer to the TV and watch it...I'm sure it can't be too complicated...I would assume it quality that gets lost the bigger you get.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 13, 2008, 10:56:44 AM
Bob Chickerellluio is doing helluva job for bodybuilding!!
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 13, 2008, 11:01:51 AM
I'm not a big tech guy. but from what I've seen on the boards...there are some guys that connect their computer to the TV and watch it...I'm sure it can't be too complicated...I would assume it quality that gets lost the bigger you get.

If you have a TV that isn't 10 years old it's a snap if you're not a retard. Any Radio Shack sells the cable for about 25 bucks
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: WhiteCastle on February 13, 2008, 11:16:49 AM
If you have a TV that isn't 10 years old it's a snap if you're not a retard. Any Radio Shack sells the cable for about 25 bucks
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Thealmightyronald on February 13, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
If you have a TV that isn't 10 years old it's a snap if you're not a retard. Any Radio Shack sells the cable for about 25 bucks

What is the cable that is supposed to be used and does the quality stay the same or does it get worse? The olympia had pretty bad colour and you couldn't really tell any detail because it was so dark so if it got worse than hat it wouldn't be worth hooking up to the tv.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: The Freakshow on February 13, 2008, 07:13:55 PM
...I would assume it quality that gets lost the bigger you get.

Are you saying that bigger bodybuilders aren't quality ;)
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 13, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
I'm not a big tech guy. but from what I've seen on the boards...there are some guys that connect their computer to the TV and watch it...I'm sure it can't be too complicated...I would assume it quality that gets lost the bigger you get.


You are correct on both counts...  it's very easy to do, but the resolution gets worse as the picture gets bigger.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 13, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
What is the cable that is supposed to be used and does the quality stay the same or does it get worse? The olympia had pretty bad colour and you couldn't really tell any detail because it was so dark so if it got worse than hat it wouldn't be worth hooking up to the tv.

It's called an RGB or serial cable. Different terminologies but if you tell the guy what your'e trying to do he'll hook you up. It is true that the quality is the quality, but it will be bigger.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 13, 2008, 07:25:57 PM
It's called an RGB or serial cable. Different terminologies but if you tell the guy what your'e trying to do he'll hook you up. It is true that the quality is the quality, but it will be bigger.


s-video works best, and most laptops and lcd tv's have the connector.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Ron on February 14, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
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I'm not a big tech guy. but from what I've seen on the boards...there are some guys that connect their computer to the TV and watch it...I'm sure it can't be too complicated...I would assume it quality that gets lost the bigger you get.

It does work, you can connect the cable straight to your 42 inch widescreen LCD (time to get one), and the pixel ratios are pretty much the same.  Each webcast gets better and better.

Hey, even a live webcast is quite an expensive undertaking, and quite stressful.  Multitude of things can go wrong.

Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: webcake on February 14, 2008, 12:53:40 AM
The webcasts are great. ok so the resoloution may not be 100% if you got a shit computer, but hey, we get to see this for free. To quote the great Ronnie Coleman "Why complain?"
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: technokc on February 14, 2008, 10:50:57 AM

BB.com  should be applauded for doing the webcast.....how anyone can nitpick over it is beyond me.
Im not sure I understand,  are you guys seriously hasseling Chick about giving us something for free how can you even justify that  their was a time when ESPN and fox sports net used to have extensive coverage and it will get back to that IM sure of it,  but I agree the fan base needs to expand hey the more the merrier.
It's a FREE webcast, what else do you want?

I think you guys miss understood me, I think its awesome that there is a free webcast, I'll be the first one watching the ironman at work on saturday! :D
I just miss watching the big shows on the tv, the computer is set up at a little desk in my bedroom, sure I can watch it, but I couldn't have anyone over to watch it too.
Title: Re: Chick: questions about webcasts. . .
Post by: Honour on February 14, 2008, 06:11:54 PM
Yeah i hear what you are saying technokc, I would be happy to pay to see it on a bigger screen as well, but in the end Chick and Ron are right, the cost of setup etc would be a bit of a gamble for those involved :-\. I just feel lucky we get to watch it at all :D.