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Title: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:05:39 PM

Haney would likely place behind Melvin Anthony (top 6 maybe)....

Labrada and Gaspari would be gifted the top 10.

Any thoughts on who (if anybody) would crack the current top 10?

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: HowieW on February 12, 2008, 09:08:02 PM

Quote from: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:05:39 PM

Haney would likely place behind Melvin Anthony (top 6 maybe)....

Labrada and Gaspari would be gifted the top 10.

Any thoughts on who (if anybody) would crack the current top 10?

Haney would still be a top guy. He was clearly ahead of the pack for years and would have gotten better over the years as new stuff came into being.
Lots of great physiques from that era.Bob Paris was incredible overall

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Matt C on February 12, 2008, 09:10:42 PM

I reviewed the 1987 Mr. Olympia DVD twice (by accident).  Check it out:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport1987.html

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html

You don't think this is easy top six material?

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/111.jpg)

I would say Rich Gaspari is at a higher level than a pro such as Mark Dugdale for instance.  And Mark Dugdale is basically guaranteed to be Olympia class every year.  Not necessarily the best in the lineup, but always a participant, and as I said, I would put Rich ahead of him.

I think I might actually start updating my site again.  Looking through it I actually think it's worth putting some time into.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: marcus on February 12, 2008, 09:10:55 PM

They all have small waists, separation, no synthol and no Muscletech contracts. They wouldn't place well if they even qualified.  ::)

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Eric2 on February 12, 2008, 09:12:38 PM

Let it be known....wether or not any of the guys from the 80's placed or not is not the same as saying they are better or worse than the current lineup. The judging has changed drasticaly over the years and, not for the better. :-[

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:13:24 PM

Quote from: Matt C on February 12, 2008, 09:10:42 PM

I reviewed the 1987 Mr. Olympia DVD twice (by accident).  Check it out:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport1987.html

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html

You don't think this is easy top six material?

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/111.jpg)

I would say Rich Gaspari is at a higher level than a pro such as Mark Dugdale for instance.  And Mark Dugdale is basically guaranteed to be Olympia class every year.  Not necessarily the best in the lineup, but always a participant, and as I said, I would put Rich ahead of him.

I think I might actually start updating my site again.  Looking through it I actually think it's worth putting some time into.

Very true I would place Gaspari ahead of Dugdale, but still that only leaves him around 13th/14th place.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:15:58 PM

Quote from: Eric2 on February 12, 2008, 09:12:38 PM

Let it be known....wether or not any of the guys from the 80's placed or not is not the same as saying they are better or worse than the current lineup. The judging has changed drasticaly over the years and, not for the better. :-[

If a physique like Melvin Anthony or Phil Heath can place very high, then they could still place high.

Time periods aside, can those physiques still stand up, that is my question.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Matt C on February 12, 2008, 09:16:28 PM

I think Rich Gaspari would place well today for the same reason he placed well during his heyday - due to his extreme hardness and out of this world overall conditioning.  The guy was sliced beyond belief.  That's the same reason why he beat every top pro during his day other than Lee Haney.  Think about how he ranked higher than beasts like Mike Christian for example.  Not exactly an easy feat:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/234.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/240.jpg)

PS - SIZEON owns all!

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsizeonreview.html

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:17:59 PM

Quote from: Matt C on February 12, 2008, 09:16:28 PM

I think Rich Gaspari would place well today for the same reason he placed well during his heyday - due to his extreme hardness and out of this world overall conditioning.  The guy was sliced beyond belief.  That's the same reason why he beat every top pro during his day other than Lee Haney.  Think about how he ranked higher than beasts like Mike Christian for example.  Not exactly an easy feat:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/234.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/240.jpg)

PS - SIZEON owns all!

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsizeonreview.html

With bigger delts I can see Christian placing very high in a modern contest.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Matt C on February 12, 2008, 09:21:47 PM

Quote from: Condor on February 12, 2008, 09:17:59 PM

With bigger delts I can see Christian placing very high in a modern contest.

I can also see him placing well today with very slight improvements.

Toney Freeman is an inch taller and does very well at 285.  I think it stands to reason that Mike Christian at 275 would be world class.  He competed at around 245 I believe.  I don't that automatically means he needed 30 more pounds of muscle though.  Maybe just a slightly updated gear regimen would do the trick.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 12, 2008, 09:28:38 PM

Bertil Fox would place in the top 10.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Gym dude on February 13, 2008, 01:12:23 AM

I would have Hanney in top ten placing 7th in the current olympia.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: gzhout on February 13, 2008, 02:35:40 AM

imo samir bannout will place high enough if he comes in his 1983 condition

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Atlantic on February 13, 2008, 03:02:45 AM

non in top 6

Haney might be in top 10

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: Condor on February 13, 2008, 03:46:05 AM

Quote from: Camel  Jockey on February 12, 2008, 09:28:38 PM

Bertil Fox would place in the top 10.

I could see a Bertil/Heath or Bertil/Johnnie Jackson type showdown.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: local hero on February 13, 2008, 10:23:18 AM

they all took the same mega doses that they use now,,, just without the slin, hgh and igf1... all u can do is add 20lb of bloat onto them

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: nycbull on February 13, 2008, 11:13:11 AM

dont see  Gaspari , the guy was hard to look at, no aesthetic quality at all.

Title: Re: How many 80's pros would place at the current Olympia?
Post by: cht868 on February 13, 2008, 11:30:19 AM

not as many as we would like...i think haney would fare pretty well, but top 6 at best, i don't think he would beat

jay
victor
dexter
wolf
phil heath
toney freeman-if he came in shape like the ironman last year

and would battle it out with
badell
johny jackson
silvio samuel...much better legs
melvin anthony, probably wouldn't beat melvin imo

so probably place between 7-10 at the O