Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: knny187 on February 16, 2008, 10:07:11 AM
-
Taken December 2007
-
Taken December 2007
Wow beats Arnold, Sly....or mostly anybody else at that age.
That's how I want to end up.
-
am i the only one for feeling dirty to looking at his "legs"?
-
am i the only one for feeling dirty to looking at his "legs"?
True, but remember what your grandaddy's legs looked like at that age?
-
am i the only one for feeling dirty to looking at his "legs"?
We don't because we are not imagining licking all the way up to the apex of them like yourself.
Dirty boy!
ta ta
-
I do have a hankering for drumsticks
-
Although it seems he looked much better only a year ago:
-
Although it seems he looked much better only a year ago:
looks a little red
-
i think he should just enjoy the few years he has yet and focus on having fun with his grand children etc.
-
i think he should just enjoy the few years he has yet and focus on having fun with his grand children etc.
what grandchildren?
-
i think he should just enjoy the few years he has yet and focus on having fun with his grand children etc.
Mars what the hell ever happened to you?
You have become so tame, you used to be the biggest tiny tit destroyer known to man.
-
I wonder if he legs look so good from using the "Zane Leg Baster"????
-
i think he should just enjoy the few years he has yet and focus on having fun with his grand children etc.
That's not the Mars I know >:(
-
i cant be 200 % focussed at all times studs.
-
Although it seems he looked much better only a year ago:
That's because he photoshopped that pic. He caught a lot of shit for doing that but still didn't admit it.
-
That's because he photoshopped that pic. He caught a lot of shit for doing that but still didn't admit it.
Well I don't know, I remember that controversy, but honestly I don't think the two pics look THAT different IMO.
-
I wonder if he legs look so good from using the "Zane Leg Baster"????
He says thats what he used.
Ever try it? Kind of weird if you ask me.
-
He says thats what he used.
Ever try it? Kind of weird if you ask me.
It's a gimmick, I do squats leg presses, extensions and the Hammer leg curl....all I need.
-
As a bodybuilder reaches 50-10 years old, they lose about 10-20% of their muscle mass. And the worst thing is the skin losing elasticity.
-
As a bodybuilder reaches 50-10 years old, they lose about 10-20% of their muscle mass. And the worst thing is the skin losing elasticity.
yes that makes it al little unpleasant to look at.
-
It's a gimmick, I do squats leg presses, extensions and the Hammer leg curl....all I need.
What do you do for your calves and what do they look like?
The Beef
-
What do you do for your calves and what do they look like?
The Beef
training calves and forearms have been banned for years at most gyms
-
It's a gimmick, I do squats leg presses, extensions and the Hammer leg curl....all I need.
All it is...is a weighted sissy squat.
Find it funny that he thought he developed it.
-
Frank Zane (at his best...77-79) could beat most of today's competitors
-
training calves and forearms have been banned for years at most gyms
ROFL . . . The Beef hits The Beef's calves twice one week and three times the following. The Beef has good calves, but with 2 1/2 grams a week . . . The Beef's calves could hang with Ronnie Abston's, or most of todays pros.
The Beef
-
ROFL . . . The Beef hits The Beef's calves twice one week and three times the following. The Beef has good calves, but with 2 1/2 grams a week . . . The Beef's calves could hang with Ronnie Abston's, or most of todays pros.
The Beef
Only in your dreams gay boi... ::)
All it is...is a weighted sissy squat.
Find it funny that he thought he developed it.
I had seen that Leg Blaster advertised in the late 70's before Zane promoted it, and then it became associated Zane, with Zane doing all the promotion of it. But it was clearly around BEFORE Zane used it, does Zane try to claim he developed it??
Please! ::)
-
Only in your dreams gay boi... ::)
I had seen that Leg Blaster advertised in the late 70's before Zane promoted it, and then it became associated Zane, with Zane doing all the promotion of it. But it was clearly around BEFORE Zane used it, does Zane try to claim he developed it??
Please! ::)
Good question...the one's that were similar were of a circular construct...effective, but not nearly as stable and back-saving as Zane's patented model. I own one myself, as does Gold's Gym in New Haven. Zane uses it in his workouts and I don't think he's done a regular squat in over twenty years.
But Zane DOES have a US Patent...a very hard thing to attain.
-
Good question...the one's that were similar were of a circular construct...effective, but not nearly as stable and back-saving as Zane's patented model. I own one myself, as does Gold's Gym in New Haven. Zane uses it in his workouts and I don't think he's done a regular squat in over twenty years.
But Zane DOES have a US Patent...a very hard thing to attain.
How do you know Zane has a patent on it???? I saw them before Zane used it.
But if there is one in your gym, and it does have a patent number, maybe Zane did get the patent, or maybe Zane bought the rights to the patent......
I am surprised it has a patent though.
-
How do you know Zane has a patent on it???? I saw them before Zane used it.
But if there is one in your gym, and it does have a patent number, maybe Zane did get the patent, or maybe Zane bought the rights to the patent......
I am surprised it has a patent though.
Yes, Patents are hard to get. I trained at his Zane Experience three years ago, and we used his vigorously.
He did offer that there was a lawsuit over the patent, and, after him fighting and spending great deals of money...he won and the patent was given exclusively to him. So, yes, there was controversy involved.
Some of the versions you refer to were not exact replications of Frank's , thus the crux of his successful argument.
-
Yes, Patents are hard to get. I trained at his Zane Experience three years ago, and we used his vigorously.
He did offer that there was a lawsuit over the patent, and, after him fighting and spending great deals of money...he won and the patent was given exclusively to him. So, yes, there was controversy involved.
Some of the versions you refer to were not exact replications of Frank's , thus the crux of his successful argument.
Ah, I see.
Did you train with Zane in La Mesa???? How was his gym?? And how did Christine look at 65?? ::)
-
Ah, I see.
Did you train with Zane in La Mesa???? How was his gym?? And how did Christine look at 65?? ::)
Yes. It was La Mesa, and, while small, it was big enough for he, myself and my training bpartner. I have been training close to 30 years...learned a lot from top guys...but STILL learned that I was doing my crunches in an inferior way to what he was showing me, and he gave me one little hand position tip that made all the diufference in isolating lats during front pulldowns.
Nutrition was nothing too special, for me, anyhow.
He'd play us some songs on his guitar and flutes afterwards, which was cool. He said he had the original drug programs he wrote in oencil for Arniw when he first came here...he was gonna show 'em to me but then got sidetracked. Would have liked to have seen those.
Saw all his old trophies...very cool.
He liked us, it seemed...as he gave us way more time than we paid for.
He even has you do all poses, and he evluated your pics on computer, and then sends them to you with critiques on disc.
Mike
-
Yes. It was La Mesa, and, while small, it was big enough for he, myself and my training bpartner. I have been training close to 30 years...learned a lot from top guys...but STILL learned that I was doing my crunches in an inferior way to what he was showing me, and he gave me one little hand position tip that made all the diufference in isolating lats during front pulldowns.
Nutrition was nothing too special, for me, anyhow.
He'd play us some songs on his guitar and flutes afterwards, which was cool. He said he had the original drug programs he wrote in oencil for Arniw when he first came here...he was gonna show 'em to me but then got sidetracked. Would have liked to have seen those.
Saw all his old trophies...very cool.
He liked us, it seemed...as he gave us way more time than we paid for.
He even has you do all poses, and he evluated your pics on computer, and then sends them to you with critiques on disc.
Mike
PPS: Gym was good, but small. Good diversity of equipment...heavy dbs if needed (Gunther does train there as well as the other german guy that played in see arnold run)...did not see Christine but talked to her. I hear her hair is all white and too long for her age...but, kumsee, kumsaa.
-
Taken December 2007
he still looks good. what did he weigh when he competed?
-
he still looks good. what did he weigh when he competed?
about 190 at his best...183 for earlier wins...although during his last show in 1983 he tried to come in bigger at 205 and was off muscularity wise...still came in third in O
-
That is cool you were able to hang with Zane, or course you had to pay but if you have the money why not.
If you ever head back to La Mesa there is a gym called Parkway Fitness, not that far from Zanes place, that has the most antiquated, but excellently maintained, gym equipment anywhere in America.
Has numerous prototype Nautilus, has the old dumbells that have round weights on the ends instead of plates, all the weights have been caibrated/shaved so they are 100% on the money. Unreal gym.
Been around for 40 plus years. Not as old as Stern's Gym, but probably the second oldest gym in CA behnd Stern's.
-
zane's legs are shit and have always been shit.
a few cuts on the quads do not make a set of wheels. hell, i've seen better cuts on a somalian.
i can't believe he patented that stupid contraption. what a gimmick.
good on the old guy for staying in shape, but frank zane is about the last place i'd go looking for advice on developing the legs.
-
zane's legs are shit and have always been shit.
a few cuts on the quads do not make a set of wheels. hell, i've seen better cuts on a somalian.
i can't believe he patented that stupid contraption. what a gimmick.
good on the old guy for staying in shape, but frank zane is about the last place i'd go looking for advice on developing the legs.
Zane built a very good pair of legs out of a not so genetically gifted body part. I would think that he knows a thing or two about training them. On the other hand a guy with say arms like Phil Heath who has a great pair of arms (MAY) not have had to do much in the way of experimetnation as far growth.
-
Zane built a very good pair of legs out of a not so genetically gifted body part. I would think that he knows a thing or two about training them. On the other hand a guy with say arms like Phil Heath who has a great pair of arms (MAY) not have had to do much in the way of experimetnation as far growth.
i disagree, but i guess it comes down to opinion. his legs imo were tooth picks. the fact that he has some cuts in the quads has more to do with his level of conditioning, bodyfat and druge regimen than any leg blaster contraption.
i agree with you on heath.
this is the problem with drugs and genetics. most of the time the information provided to a natural trainee from these guys is about as useful as tits on a bull.
imo, from what i know of strength and muscular development, the problem with the 'leg blaster' is the lack of sheer overload that a natural trainee needs, especially if performed at the expense of barbell back squats as zane recommends.
-
i disagree, but i guess it comes down to opinion. his legs imo were tooth picks. the fact that he has some cuts in the quads has more to do with his level of conditioning, bodyfat and druge regimen than any leg blaster contraption.
i agree with you on heath.
this is the problem with drugs and genetics. most of the time the information provided to a natural trainee from these guys is about as useful as tits on a bull.
imo, from what i know of strength and muscular development, the problem with the 'leg blaster' is the lack of sheer overload that a natural trainee needs, especially if performed at the expense of barbell back squats as zane recommends.
The leg blaster is a contraption that he built to make some money and I'm pretty sure he invented it long after retirement. None the less it does work the legs, not sure how it compares to squats. I would like to know what you mean by "the problem with the 'leg blaster' is the lack of sheer overload that a natural trainee needs".
-
The leg blaster is a contraption that he built to make some money and I'm pretty sure he invented it long after retirement. None the less it does work the legs, not sure how it compares to squats. I would like to know what you mean by "the problem with the 'leg blaster' is the lack of sheer overload that a natural trainee needs".
by holding on to an object for stabilty you are removing a lot of potential work from the prime movers and synergists. plus, there is not as much potential for sheer resistance because of the item's structure.
problem with these gimmicks is that they are created to make training easier and more comfortable which runs contradictory to the intended purpose.
-
by holding on to an object for stabilty you are removing a lot of potential work from the prime movers and synergists. plus, there is not as much potential for sheer resistance because of the item's structure.
problem with these gimmicks is that they are created to make training easier and more comfortable which runs contradictory to the intended purpose.
To a degree, but I think he may has invented this for the purpose of taking some of the pressure off the lower back. Maybe for people with lower back problems. I have always thought the best leg exercise is and always will be the squat, but you do not have to squat to have a great pair of legs. With the leg blaster the prime movers are the thighs and they is being employed with this movement. Of course some of the secondary muscles are not TO A DEGREE and it is debatable that by taking out some of these secondary muscle you can still get respectable leg size. You can never 100% isolate a muscle.
-
Only in your dreams gay boi... ::)
I had seen that Leg Blaster advertised in the late 70's before Zane promoted it, and then it became associated Zane, with Zane doing all the promotion of it. But it was clearly around BEFORE Zane used it, does Zane try to claim he developed it??
Please! ::)
Son, you are new to this board and if you only knew about The Beef and The Beef's calves, you would change you responce.
Now a little education . . . The Zane Leg Blaster was first marketed as the Moore Leg Blaster and Frank bought the rights.
The Beef
-
zane's legs are shit and have always been shit.
a few cuts on the quads do not make a set of wheels. hell, i've seen better cuts on a somalian.
i can't believe he patented that stupid contraption. what a gimmick.
good on the old guy for staying in shape, but frank zane is about the last place i'd go looking for advice on developing the legs.
Actually, in the 60's and 70's...Zane's legs were considered among the best out there. Better than Arnold's. Where Arnold was known for chest and arms, Zane was known for legs.
-
Actually, in the 60's and 70's...Zane's legs were considered among the best out there. Better than Arnold's. Where Arnold was known for chest and arms, Zane was known for legs.
'zane was known for legs'??
hmmm, sorry moose but i'm going to have to call this one in....
BULLSHIT!
-
Son, you are new to this board and if you only knew about The Beef and The Beef's calves, you would change you responce.
Now a little education . . . The Zane Leg Blaster was first marketed as the Moore Leg Blaster and Frank bought the rights.
The Beef
BULLSHIT, it was never known as the Moore Leg Blaster-it was simply the Leg Blaster, then Zane called it the Zane Leg Blaster. I have used it before, not a very good workout IMO.
BTW, your buddy Onlyme said you owe him $100 big ones because the "majority" of the PDI shows went off as planned. Now pay up deadbeat.
by holding on to an object for stabilty you are removing a lot of potential work from the prime movers and synergists. plus, there is not as much potential for sheer resistance because of the item's structure.
problem with these gimmicks is that they are created to make training easier and more comfortable which runs contradictory to the intended purpose.
I have used the "Zane Leg Blaster" at Powerhouse Gym Yucaipa-which that idiot "Armz" owns, and it does not give a very good workout. I did not like it. I prefer a squat any day of the week.
-
PPS: Gym was good, but small. Good diversity of equipment...heavy dbs if needed (Gunther does train there as well as the other german guy that played in see arnold run)...did not see Christine but talked to her. I hear her hair is all white and too long for her age...but, kumsee, kumsaa.
Yeah...her hair is long & all white. Still beautiful for her age. I feel she's Franks better half for sure.
-
That is cool you were able to hang with Zane, or course you had to pay but if you have the money why not.
If you ever head back to La Mesa there is a gym called Parkway Fitness, not that far from Zanes place, that has the most antiquated, but excellently maintained, gym equipment anywhere in America.
Has numerous prototype Nautilus, has the old dumbells that have round weights on the ends instead of plates, all the weights have been caibrated/shaved so they are 100% on the money. Unreal gym.
Been around for 40 plus years. Not as old as Stern's Gym, but probably the second oldest gym in CA behnd Stern's.
Owned & operated by Bill Golumbick (used to compete in the late 50's early 60's).
As Johnny Vegas says....it's one hell of a age. A gym that goes back in time. When you train in there it's as if time stood still. Most of the equipment if it's not an original old piece, it was made by Bill.
To this day, i would love to train there again. Never will happen as I was kicked out for some reasons that I admit that I was wrong.
Bill is an old quack. Has all of these rules that you need to follow which are ridiculous.
-
That is cool you were able to hang with Zane, or course you had to pay but if you have the money why not.
If you ever head back to La Mesa there is a gym called Parkway Fitness, not that far from Zanes place, that has the most antiquated, but excellently maintained, gym equipment anywhere in America.
Has numerous prototype Nautilus, has the old dumbells that have round weights on the ends instead of plates, all the weights have been caibrated/shaved so they are 100% on the money. Unreal gym.
Been around for 40 plus years. Not as old as Stern's Gym, but probably the second oldest gym in CA behnd Stern's.
That sounds like a place I will definitely have to check out.
-
The leg blaster is a contraption that he built to make some money and I'm pretty sure he invented it long after retirement. None the less it does work the legs, not sure how it compares to squats. I would like to know what you mean by "the problem with the 'leg blaster' is the lack of sheer overload that a natural trainee needs".
Well, I believe he made some adaptations to the orginal design to call it his own.
-
Owned & operated by Bill Golumbick (used to compete in the late 50's early 60's).
As Johnny Vegas says....it's one hell of a age. A gym that goes back in time. When you train in there it's as if time stood still. Most of the equipment if it's not an original old piece, it was made by Bill.
To this day, i would love to train there again. Never will happen as I was kicked out for some reasons that I admit that I was wrong.
Bill is an old quack. Has all of these rules that you need to follow which are ridiculous.
Still sounds like a cool place
-
'zane was known for legs'??
hmmm, sorry moose but i'm going to have to call this one in....
BULLSHIT!
Really Beast...for a time in the 70's, this is a true statement
-
I have used the "Zane Leg Blaster" at Powerhouse Gym Yucaipa-which that idiot "Armz" owns, and it does not give a very good workout. I did not like it. I prefer a squat any day of the week.
Actually, Parkway used to have an original design when I trained there in 98'. This is before Zane had his name on it.
Worked ok...but didn't really see the point.
-
To a degree, but I think he may has invented this for the purpose of taking some of the pressure off the lower back. Maybe for people with lower back problems. I have always thought the best leg exercise is and always will be the squat, but you do not have to squat to have a great pair of legs. With the leg blaster the prime movers are the thighs and they is being employed with this movement. Of course some of the secondary muscles are not TO A DEGREE and it is debatable that by taking out some of these secondary muscle you can still get respectable leg size. You can never 100% isolate a muscle.
Absolutely correct.
If you have ever had back pain, injuries or related problems...the Leg Blaster was the solution....good enough thigh workout with very little back involvement/pain.
-
Actually, Parkway used to have an original design when I trained there in 98'. This is before Zane had his name on it.
Worked ok...but didn't really see the point.
Again...it saves your back...I have had severe back injuries and am very happy I can use the Leg Blaster to stim thighs
-
Still sounds like a cool place
It's pretty cool. Just follow the rules posted up on the ceiling
-
It's pretty cool. Just follow the rules posted up on the ceiling
On the ceiling?? The guy does sound like a nut...ala Gironda...
-
On the ceiling?? The guy does sound like a nut...ala Gironda...
Bingo.
Damn...all these years & I never thought of it that way but you're 100% on.
When you're training...he'll interupt you WHILE WORKING OUT & tell you the pulldown cable is not meant for tricep pressdowns. You'll be like "what??"
He'll then go on about that station is for pull downs only & you can only do tricep pressdowns on a different station.
I told him "well, you set the tricep pressdown away from the mirror. When you use it, you can't see yourself in the mirror. You also have set the pull down so when you perform the exercise, your back is facing the mirror."
Anyways...because I questioned him all the time....this was just one tiny reason I was kicked out. I used to call him a loon.
-
Owned & operated by Bill Golumbick (used to compete in the late 50's early 60's).
Bill is an old quack. Has all of these rules that you need to follow which are ridiculous.
Thanks for the owners name........never knew that.
You now Knny, I have been in that place off and on going back 25 years-back when it was in El Cajon and was named Valley Barbell, and since it was a "Key Card" entry with no one there 90% of the time I never saw the owner, or anyone that worked there, or was associated with that gym-EVER!
Bill, cool. Got it. ;D
BTW-why did you get booted-did you tell Bill it was a gym and not Family Fitness....lol.
-
Thanks for the owners name........never knew that.
You now Knny, I have been in that place off and on going back 25 years-back when it was in El Cajon and was named Valley Barbell, and since it was a "Key Card" entry with no one there 90% of the time I never saw the owner, or anyone that worked there, or was associated with that gym-EVER!
Bill, cool. Got it. ;D
BTW-why did you get booted-did you tell Bill it was a gym and not Family Fitness....lol.
His name is Bill Golumbick. He's a little old man about 5'5" - 5'6" tall. His brother "Crow" is there all the time too. He's an old guy too...kind of scary looking scarecrow looking individual - tall & lanky - always wears like a black knit cap.
Bill drives a Red Ford Ranger pick up thats older than the hills. He also has an old Mustang car. Go by anytime around 11:00pm & you will see him there. Crow will be there mostly though the day time.
I used to train back then between 10:00 - 12:00pm. So, I used to see him all the time. There's cameras in the place (all over) so be careful what you do in there. He'll know if you set down the dumbbells too hard or on the upholstery of the benches & will tell you about it.
I was kicked out for a number of reasons....one was more than anything else.
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Golumbick,+Bill
-
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Golumbick,+Bill
Wow, I never knew the guy was a BBer, and was on so many old magazine covers.
Ive have been around san Diego along time and this is the first I heard of this guy-amazing.
He looks pretty damn good for the times also.
Hey Knny-we are going to have to meet one of these days-since your in my neck of the woods.
(http://musclememory.com/magCovers/hs/hs8821.jpg)
-
Wow, I never knew the guy was a BBer, and was on so many old magazine covers.
Ive have been around san Diego along time and this is the first I heard of this guy-amazing.
He looks pretty damn good for the times also.
Hey Knny-we are going to have to meet one of these days-since your in my neck of the woods.
(http://musclememory.com/magCovers/hs/hs8821.jpg)
great abs.
-
looks a little red
aaaaaahhh, the ol' telltale reddish nose of he afternoon senior boozer.
Nah, Zane is my favorite all time bodybuilder, smart guy, ideal classic lines, still in great shape.
-
aaaaaahhh, the ol' telltale reddish nose of he afternoon senior boozer.
Nah, Zane is my favorite all time bodybuilder, smart guy, ideal classic lines, still in great shape.
zane has always been a fan of the health, vascularity and diuretic affects of the afternoon wine or beer. ;D
-
I would take Zane's late 70s physique over any of today's pros.
-
I would take Zane's late 70s physique over any of today's pros.
he does look very good there.
-
BULLSHIT, it was never known as the Moore Leg Blaster-it was simply the Leg Blaster, then Zane called it the Zane Leg Blaster. I have used it before, not a very good workout IMO.
BTW, your buddy Onlyme said you owe him $100 big ones because the "majority" of the PDI shows went off as planned. Now pay up deadbeat.
I have used the "Zane Leg Blaster" at Powerhouse Gym Yucaipa-which that idiot "Armz" owns, and it does not give a very good workout. I did not like it. I prefer a squat any day of the week.
What dop mean it was not called the Moore ?
The Beef has a hundred that says it was. Want my action son?
The Beef
-
Wow, I never knew the guy was a BBer, and was on so many old magazine covers.
Ive have been around san Diego along time and this is the first I heard of this guy-amazing.
He looks pretty damn good for the times also.
Hey Knny-we are going to have to meet one of these days-since your in my neck of the woods.
(http://musclememory.com/magCovers/hs/hs8821.jpg)
Actually, from what I'm told....he was well know for the time, but was forgotten quickly. He was known for his abs back in the day. He was & is big time against drugs & why he quit bodybuilding. He refused to compete against drug useage.
Besides from that....he's extremely eccentric.
-
Actually, from what I'm told....he was well know for the time, but was forgotten quickly. He was known for his abs back in the day. He was & is big time against drugs & why he quit bodybuilding. He refused to compete against drug useage.
Besides from that....he's extremely eccentric.
Guy ad serious abs for the 50's.
Reminds me of Fabian Lewkowitz from Gold's Gym PB back in the day-had abs just like this Bill guy.
Fabian had Chris Cormier BEAT at the 1990 Cal, and his abs sealed the deal against Chris-and they gifted the show to Chris, total bullshit.