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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: JOHN MATRIX on February 16, 2008, 02:38:10 PM
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realise that as much as the demos are favored to win right now, should another terrorist-false-flag type attack or 'incident' should take place before teh Bush leaves office, mccain and the repubs would win in a landslide. considering how things are looking for the repubs right now, should we be expecting something? wouldnt surprise me one bit
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Theyve attacked the US before and they will again. Its their only chance.
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Iran, the world's fourth largest oil exporter, has completely stopped selling its oil in U.S. dollars, the ISNA news agency reported on Saturday.
"In line with the policy of selling crude oil in non-dollar currencies, currently selling our country's oil in U.S. dollars has been completely stopped," Iran's Oil Minister Gholam Hossein Nozari was quoted as saying.
"The dollar is an unreliable currency in regards to its devaluation and the loss oil exporters have endured from this trend," he added.
"This is why Iran proposed to OPEC members that a currency (for selling oil) would be determined that would be reliable and would not cause any loss to exporter countries," Nozari said. He was referring to the November summit of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) in Saudi Arabia in which Iran proposed that it is necessary to replace the U.S. dollar with other major hard currencies in oil trading.
Over the past months, Iran has massively reduced its dependence on the U.S. dollar in a bid to counter the United States' pressures on its financial system over Tehran's disputed nuclear program.
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LONDON (AFP) - OPEC could switch the pricing of oil from dollars into euros within a decade, secretary general Abdullah al-Badri told a weekly magazine.
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The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries could adopt the euro to combat the decline of the dollar, Badri told the Middle East Economic Digest (MEED), published in London.
"Maybe we can price the oil in the euro. It can be done, but it will take time," he said.
Badri told MEED the change could happen within a decade, the magazine said.
MEED recalled that OPEC is under pressure from its members, who have seen their earnings decline sharply since 2000 due to its use of the dollar. The US currency has fallen 44 percent in value against the euro in that time.
The publication of Badri's remarks coincided with the euro rising against the dollar on the foreign exchanges Friday. The euro peaked of 1.4547 dollars at around 1800 GMT, though it has since weakened.
"In oil exchanges in New York, Singapore or Dubai, you can see the currency is the euro or the yen," Badri said.
"But as long as we see the final sign in dollar, that means the pricing is in dollars.
"It took two world wars and more than 50 years for the dollar to become the dominant currency. Now we are seeing another strong currency coming into the (frame), which is the euro."
Some OPEC members, notably Iran and Venezuela, have been calling for the group to study the declining dollar's effect on their economies. Iran has already begun pricing most of its oil in euros.
MEED recalled that the pricing of oil in dollars is a sensitive topic. Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal warned OPEC late last year that the dollar could plunge if OPEC publicly discussed abandoning it.
On Tuesday, Badri told reporters in London that several oil exporters were selling in dollars but buying other commodities in euros, calling the latter a strong currency.
The comments served to underline the difficulties currently facing oil exporting countries
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Theres a good reason for something to happen. No?
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I was thinking about this and I'm not sure. If there is another attack, it might not play into their hands as would be normal. Because Bush played up the, "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" All those clips would come out as a failed policy. But, it the attack is massive, several cities... That's a whole different ball game. That's when you might see the martial law crap and who knows what else.
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Well. Its a hard spot to be in. If bush allows an attack then the economy will panic and drop anyway which will put the dollar thru the floor.
The other countries will definitly not wait to switch currencies, as its costing too much money in losses.
Either way he's built a shithouse and the world has a match. :o
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Well. Its a hard spot to be in. If bush allows an attack then the economy will panic and drop anyway which will put the dollar thru the floor.
The other countries will definitly not wait to switch currencies, as its costing too much money in losses.
Either way he's built a shithouse and the world has a match. :o
Agreed. Who ever gets the presidency next is gonna be in a world of hurt, if things don't any more fucked by then.
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Agreed. Who ever gets the presidency next is gonna be in a world of hurt, if things don't any more fucked by then.
yes, nice legacy Bush leaves. We've grown the number of violent radicals in the world by 100 fold, he should be proud. I'm sure the military industrial complex is :)
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yes, nice legacy Bush leaves. We've grown the number of violent radicals in the world by 100 fold, he should be proud. I'm sure the military industrial complex is :)
Yes, Bush has givin the terrorists just what they wanted. To build anger and support of countries around them toward the US, There-by raising and recruiting more Terrorists.......
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If the Clintons take the Democratic nomination (as it appears they will now), there won't be a need for any 'incidents'.
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Yes, Bush has givin the terrorists just what they wanted. To build anger and support of countries around them toward the US, There-by raising and recruiting more Terrorists.......
It looks intentional to me. If I wanted to radicalize a nation overnight, I'd take everyone's jobs away, run around and gather up every male of fighting age, put them in detention or gitmo for months, humilate and degrade them, then send them home. Watch the insurgency grow. It's a perfect recipe for the same results everytime. And there was no shortage of people screaming, this is what will happen. How the fuck could they not see this. Somewhere along the line, these advisors pushing this have some other motive, it isn't peace.
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It looks intentional to me. If I wanted to radicalize a nation overnight, I'd take everyone's jobs away, run around and gather up every male of fighting age, put them in detention or gitmo for months, humilate and degrade them, then send them home. Watch the insurgency grow. It's a perfect recipe for the same results everytime. And there was no shortage of people screaming, this is what will happen. How the fuck could they not see this. Somewhere along the line, these advisors pushing this have some other motive, it isn't peace.
Rags done it. Rags wanna come here and kill every man, woman and children for the hell it. Rag don't need to be provoked.
Guess who. ;D ;D
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Rags done it. Rags wanna come here and kill every man, woman and children for the hell it. Rag don't need to be provoked.
Guess who. ;D ;D
Dead on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
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Bush has attacked the US before and he will again. Its the republican partie's only chance.
fixed! ;)
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My guess is that the US might send some US navy ship too close to Iran, pretty much leaving them no choice but to strike back. Then you'll have morons with mullets sticking 'These colors don't run' stickers on their pickups and ringing the war bell. Bush will take action and leave McCain to finish the job.
Or it'll be usual bullshit falsified intelligence reports.
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These colors do run though...
Just look at the French flag...
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My guess is that the US might send some US navy ship too close to Iran, pretty much leaving them no choice but to strike back. Then you'll have morons with mullets sticking 'These colors don't run' stickers on their pickups and ringing the war bell. Bush will take action and leave McCain to finish the job.
Or it'll be usual bullshit falsified intelligence reports.
LMAO... ;D