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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on February 16, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
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http://www.muscletime.com/photos/v/professional-bodybuilding/ironman-pro/2008-ironman-pro-contest/2008-ironman-pro-prejudging/2008-ironman-21.jpg.html
Some incredible shots of Heath
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Almost Ronnie Coleman like but without the width.. :o
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Shawn Ray owns Phil Heath.
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Almost Ronnie Coleman like but without the width.. :o
He reminds me more of Flex
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Shawn Ray owns Phil Heath.
ttt....
Ooo Rah!
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Almost Ronnie Coleman like but without the width.. :o
Stupidest comment all day. No one will ever have the right to be compared to Ronnie in our lifetime.
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odd build , looks like a steam roler drove over him from the waiste up! :-\
and he is nowhere near as pleasing to the eye as flex wheeler, hes heading twourds block city as he gains mass, thats easy to see!
obliques could become a big problem, seems they are exspanding at a strange angle!
they seem to be making him look square...
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odd build , looks like a steam roler drove over him from the waiste up! :-\
His pecs disappear when his arms are raised above it does look odd
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Phil Heath = washed up
He should retire.
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I think Flex is a bit taller but with a bit more time Phil could surpass Flex's best look.
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I think Flex is a bit taller but with a bit more time Phil could surpass Flex's best look.
unless he has his obliques surgically removed, he will never in this lifetime have anywhere near the the physique flex had!
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Phil Heath = washed up
He should retire.
;D
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Stupidest comment all day. No one will ever have the right to be compared to Ronnie in our lifetime.
Dorian 93 compares very well if not exceeds
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Dorian 93 compares very well if not exceeds
kill yourself
Now
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234257;image)
Why doesn't he stop lifting weights with his obliques? It looks bad. He needs to shrink them.
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Why doesn't he stop lifting weights with his obliques? It looks bad. He needs to shrink them.
ti has nothing to do with weights or work on obliqws friend,, it has to do with the 3 underlaying facts:
1.overspilling due to growth beyond what is small to average frame will alow,,this fella should be 220lb and not even 1 lb over inorder to not over spill bt he wnt be able to win major titles at 220lb thats why the needed growth
2. growth hormones usage
3. insulin spikes
we do not train our obliqes and if we do its once every blue moon and from other exwrxiawas but it has nothing to do with overspil that you see there
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Every1 talks about phils arms , gustavo looks bigger than phils :o
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Every1 talks about phils arms , gustavo looks bigger than phils :o
hi gustavo
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holla
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Which other exwrxiawas, gh15?
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His pecs seem less developed than the rest of his body.
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Phil's clavicles (collar bones) are closer to each other than most other top pros.
As a result, his waist is going to be bigger, those obliques are going to pop out. Also his chest tie-ins are small. Look at Gustavo's chest and obliques, compared to Phil- Gus has a better chest (by a mile) and smaller obliques:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234259;image)
however, on every bodypart not called chest, back and abs, Phil heath owns. Phil heath might have the best arms in the sport. Thighs are among the best. Just freaky, freaky arms. He'll win a ot of shows and might be Mr O, but he'll always have those flaws. We pointed it out when he turned pro- his obliques were already wide and the chest couldn't get any bigger without appearing bunched up. These things turned out to be perfectly true. however, no one is perfect and his arms will more than compensate for other shortcomings. levrone always had subpar legs for his upper body... he won 4 Mr O "runner ups" but never the title, and he's a legend in the sport. That could be Phil's destiny. Or, the judges may overlook the symmetry/torso issues and give it to him. He's a great rep for the sport, and big freaky arms do sell magazines better than tight obliques.
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Phil's clavicles (collar bones) are closer to each other than most other top pros.
As a result, his waist is going to be bigger, those obliques are going to pop out. Also his chest tie-ins are small. Look at Gustavo's chest and obliques, compared to Phil- Gus has a better chest (by a mile) and smaller obliques:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234259;image)
however, on every bodypart not called chest, back and abs, Phil heath owns. Phil heath might have the best arms in the sport. Thighs are among the best. Just freaky, freaky arms. He'll win a ot of shows and might be Mr O, but he'll always have those flaws. We pointed it out when he turned pro- his obliques were already wide and the chest couldn't get any bigger without appearing bunched up. These things turned out to be perfectly true. however, no one is perfect and his arms will more than compensate for other shortcomings. levrone always had subpar legs for his upper body... he won 4 Mr O "runner ups" but never the title, and he's a legend in the sport. That could be Phil's destiny. Or, the judges may overlook the symmetry/torso issues and give it to him. He's a great rep for the sport, and big freaky arms do sell magazines better than tight obliques.
It's all about genetics. Frankly, apart from the calves and to some extent the arms, Wolf owns him.
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Phil's clavicles (collar bones) are closer to each other than most other top pros.
As a result, his waist is going to be bigger, those obliques are going to pop out. Also his chest tie-ins are small. Look at Gustavo's chest and obliques, compared to Phil- Gus has a better chest (by a mile) and smaller obliques:
The collar bones are nowhere near the oblique so wtf are you talking about?
Not to mention that people with smaller bone structres usally have smaller waists too.
Chest wise Phil is better,Gustavo have one of the worst chest ever.Yes Gustavo chest have a nice shape but its flatter than your great grandma pulse.
Phil chest is just like Flex/Levorne , small area but very thick and detailed thus looks much better than Gustavo's.
When I look at Phil pics I see a 96 Ronnie,great shape , good mass and great condition.
All he needs now is overall thickness,which will slowly creep on his delts and complete his look.
Check Ronnie old pics,the most important change was more mass on his delts,he always had great everything else.
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Heaths win at the Ironman. I am going pick Heath to clean house at the Arnold.
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imo heath has improved.
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anything less than 2ns at the Arnold is a disappointment
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kill yourself
Now
No Thanks :P
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Phil looks great!!!
We gonna see epic battles with Wolf.
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Phil looks great!!!
We gonna see epic battles with Wolf.
How on earth can they judge impartially with Heath and Wolf.Apples and Oranges.
After seeing Heath mop the floor with the rest of the competitors. Heath and Wolf are my 2 favourites.
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Every1 talks about phils arms , gustavo looks bigger than phils :o
True. Gustavo is a monster this time.
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Phil's clavicles (collar bones) are closer to each other than most other top pros.
As a result, his waist is going to be bigger, those obliques are going to pop out. Also his chest tie-ins are small. Look at Gustavo's chest and obliques, compared to Phil- Gus has a better chest (by a mile) and smaller obliques:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234259;image)
however, on every bodypart not called chest, back and abs, Phil heath owns. Phil heath might have the best arms in the sport. Thighs are among the best. Just freaky, freaky arms. He'll win a ot of shows and might be Mr O, but he'll always have those flaws. We pointed it out when he turned pro- his obliques were already wide and the chest couldn't get any bigger without appearing bunched up. These things turned out to be perfectly true. however, no one is perfect and his arms will more than compensate for other shortcomings. levrone always had subpar legs for his upper body... he won 4 Mr O "runner ups" but never the title, and he's a legend in the sport. That could be Phil's destiny. Or, the judges may overlook the symmetry/torso issues and give it to him. He's a great rep for the sport, and big freaky arms do sell magazines better than tight obliques.
Look at other comparison pics fool, theres no way badells obliques are smaller ;)
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Wasn't even a contest. Heath won EASILY! He's so much more improved than last year. Could dominate every show (even the Olympia).
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The collar bones are nowhere near the oblique so wtf are you talking about?
Not to mention that people with smaller bone structres usally have smaller waists too.
Without wide clavicles, attaining that v-taper is very hard. No matter how small the waist is, the hip bones can't be that much narrower. 6 months of ins use living with Cutler and already his obliques shot out an inch on each side. That rate will leave him with an H-frame in less than 2 years.
Phil chest is just like Flex/Levorne , small area but very thick and detailed thus looks much better than Gustavo's.
Find 2 pics, side by side, where Heath's chest looks as good as Levrone or Wheeler- two ppl with some of the best chest genetics ever. Look at the bottom 'line' of the pecs- theirs is wide and flat, phil's simply is not. Not ripping on him, he's a great champion, but he doesn't have good pec genetics. I'm a big heath fan and hope he wins the arnols, although dexter will probably be too tough to beat.
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Phil HEath is up there with Victor, and the veteran Cutler. Phil heath is amazing, he oozed genetic domination just like Victor. I think they will be the top 3 for a while, with Dexter in the mix too. Dexter is getting bigger and bigger.
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Holy Cow :o :o :o
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Holy Cow :o :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234399;image)
Looks way better than Dorian here.
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Holy Cow :o :o :o
this only show how bad of a problem he has when it comes to width and how narrow he is ,,he has major problem with arms who fit a lot bigger lifter and pecs narrow structure that in many cases can not win a national level show,,
as i said before,,he competes at the right time and same as jason condition was over looked last year ,,,so will heath bad points will be over looked since his strengths are superior in this edge and time,,
he DOES NOT HAVE WOW FACTOR WHAT DO EVER,,his arms will NEVER EVER MATCH RON COLMAN,,he has big bulk arms like vic richards btu still not as good as sergio due to lack in other bodyparts and over all width,,
he competed among level of competition that got destroyed by over use of growth and insulin ,,,he competes against many palumbos and that is why he will have veyr easy time to be top 6 in any given day
his physiqe IS NOT IMPRESSIVE ,,very similar to a tall lee priest but i would never given it mr o title unless somehow this narrow torso of him pack on more thickness and the pecs get thicker and fuller ,
to me he just look like a local level bodybuilder with mr o quality arms and legs,,this should never be enough ,,but in this era it will be
bodybuilding after all especially in the last 10 years is arms and legs game,,half of the guys would not win a local show with out the oil they got stuck in the arms
if you pay close attention heath wasit is growing due to growth and insulin and his narrow bone structure on top stays same,,he just cant get the upper torso to look like professional level,,his waist is almost as wide as his pec width ,,all look like compackt and blocky ,,if he had lee haney torso he would be the champ this coming o,,never the less as i suspect this phsyiqe will be enough for what papa weider wants ,,but it is light years behind ron colman and start resemble an earlier jason with better arms and worse legs
bodybuilding has maxed itself friends,,,wolf maybe can being little more but never to ron level ,,i believe wolf has what it takes frame wize to make the next champ but still not even close to ron
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this only show how bad of a problem he has when it comes to width and how narrow he is ,,he has major problem with arms who fit a lot bigger lifter and pecs narrow structure that in many cases can not win a national level show,,
as i said before,,he competes at the right time and same as jason condition was over looked last year ,,,so will heath bad points will be over looked since his strengths are superior in this edge and time,,
he DOES NOT HAVE WOW FACTOR WHAT DO EVER,,his arms will NEVER EVER MATCH RON COLMAN,,he has big bulk arms like vic richards btu still not as good as sergio due to lack in other bodyparts and over all width,,
he competed among level of competition that got destroyed by over use of growth and insulin ,,,he competes against many palumbos and that is why he will have veyr easy time to be top 6 in any given day
his physiqe IS NOT IMPRESSIVE ,,very similar to a tall lee priest but i would never given it mr o title unless somehow this narrow torso of him pack on more thickness and the pecs get thicker and fuller ,
to me he just look like a local level bodybuilder with mr o quality arms and legs,,this should never be enough ,,but in this era it will be
bodybuilding after all especially in the last 10 years is arms and legs game,,half of the guys would not win a local show with out the oil they got stuck in the arms
if you pay close attention heath wasit is growing due to growth and insulin and his narrow bone structure on top stays same,,he just cant get the upper torso to look like professional level,,his waist is almost as wide as his pec width ,,all look like compackt and blocky ,,if he had lee haney torso he would be the champ this coming o,,never the less as i suspect this phsyiqe will be enough for what papa weider wants ,,but it is light years behind ron colman and start resemble an earlier jason with better arms and worse legs
bodybuilding has maxed itself friends,,,wolf maybe can being little more but never to ron level ,,i believe wolf has what it takes frame wize to make the next champ but still not even close to ron
GH15, you are a worthless liar and a child molester, but for once I agree with you....
Phil Heath better enjoy this "thing" while it lasts because I give him about 1 year before he totally ruins his physique and dies of a gunshot wound to the head. His bone structure is not built to handle the mass he will inevitably put on. He will look like shit very soon so he better capitalize while he has the chance. Next stop, Kamali land!
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Holy Cow :o :o :o
There is a relaxed pic of Flex Wheeler in a Musclemag like this. It is a succession of pics in black in white, in which proceeds to own none other than Paul Dillett in a most muscular pose. He's standing just like Heath, but his waist tiny as hell. Heath's waist in this pic is kinda wide. I think being under Jay was good and bad for him. Good because he gained some weight, bad because it grew out his waist and obliques. He should have just slowly packed on the weight and just bide his time. Best guns in the sport now by far. Hell, if he had JOJ's chest, and Flex's Wheeler's back detail, he'd be damn nearly unstoppable.
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There is a relaxed pic of Flex Wheeler in a Musclemag like this. It is a succession of pics in black in white, in which proceeds to own none other than Paul Dillett in a most muscular pose. He's standing just like Heath, but his waist tiny as hell. Heath's waist in this pic is kinda wide. I think being under Jay was good and bad for him. Good because he gained some weight, bad because it grew out his waist and obliques. He should have just slowly packed on the weight and just bide his time. Best guns in the sport now by far. Hell, if he had JOJ's chest, and Flex's Wheeler's back detail, he'd be damn nearly unstoppable.
If you could be as excited about making money as you are about fawning over other men's physiques, you could be a multimillionaire within the year.
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If you could be as excited about making money as you are about fawning over other men's physiques, you could be a multimillionaire within the year.
Uhhh...You need to say that to Team Fakechestguy. And check Eric Roberson's lyrics....
Epic ignorance on your part...you need to go to bed, you need to get up early in the morning to change the oil in my Lex. Nose to the grindstone baby.
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people went nuts about phil based on his arms and shoulders.. somehow they totally ingnored the narrow bone structure he hjas.. he will get demolished by wolf, vic and numerous others when standing relaxed. he better add some serious medial delts in the next year.. his arms are awesome.. legs are very good.. back has really come up.. but, he needs more mass across the pecs and even the back still.. but, there is nothing he can do about his structual flaws.. muscle groups are good.. bone structure is bad.. that will become more apparent standing next to the big boys.. but, can you imagine what he would/could be if he had wider clavicals..?? he would be untouchable at 245 pounds..
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people went nuts about phil based on his arms and shoulders.. somehow they totally ingnored the narrow bone structure he hjas.. he will get demolished by wolf, vic and numerous others when standing relaxed. he better add some serious medial delts in the next year.. his arms are awesome.. legs are very good.. back has really come up.. but, he needs more mass across the pecs and even the back still.. but, there is nothing he can do about his structual flaws.. muscle groups are good.. bone structure is bad.. that will become more apparent standing next to the big boys.. but, can you imagine what he would/could be if he had wider clavicals..?? he would be untouchable at 245 pounds..
I totally agree and too bad about the width cause there is nothing that can be done, but I feel that they are prepping him as the future Mr O. When you lack clavicle width you naturally have a narrow back.
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I totally agree and too bad about the width cause there is nothing that can be done, but I feel that they are prepping him as the future Mr O. When you lack clavicle width you naturally have a narrow back.
I disagree. I think he can shrink his obliques, and that'll make a HUGE diff. in whether he looks narrow.
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this only show how bad of a problem he has when it comes to width and how narrow he is ,,he has major problem with arms who fit a lot bigger lifter and pecs narrow structure that in many cases can not win a national level show,,
as i said before,,he competes at the right time and same as jason condition was over looked last year ,,,so will heath bad points will be over looked since his strengths are superior in this edge and time,,
he DOES NOT HAVE WOW FACTOR WHAT DO EVER,,his arms will NEVER EVER MATCH RON COLMAN,,he has big bulk arms like vic richards btu still not as good as sergio due to lack in other bodyparts and over all width,,
he competed among level of competition that got destroyed by over use of growth and insulin ,,,he competes against many palumbos and that is why he will have veyr easy time to be top 6 in any given day
his physiqe IS NOT IMPRESSIVE ,,very similar to a tall lee priest but i would never given it mr o title unless somehow this narrow torso of him pack on more thickness and the pecs get thicker and fuller ,
to me he just look like a local level bodybuilder with mr o quality arms and legs,,this should never be enough ,,but in this era it will be
bodybuilding after all especially in the last 10 years is arms and legs game,,half of the guys would not win a local show with out the oil they got stuck in the arms
if you pay close attention heath wasit is growing due to growth and insulin and his narrow bone structure on top stays same,,he just cant get the upper torso to look like professional level,,his waist is almost as wide as his pec width ,,all look like compackt and blocky ,,if he had lee haney torso he would be the champ this coming o,,never the less as i suspect this phsyiqe will be enough for what papa weider wants ,,but it is light years behind ron colman and start resemble an earlier jason with better arms and worse legs
bodybuilding has maxed itself friends,,,wolf maybe can being little more but never to ron level ,,i believe wolf has what it takes frame wize to make the next champ but still not even close to ron
Epic jealousy. Even if you are truly a Mr O competitor, I'm sure Phil would beat you hands down.
If you could be as excited about making money as you are about fawning over other men's physiques, you could be a multimillionaire within the year.
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!
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Epic jealousy. Even if you are truly a Mr O competitor, I'm sure Phil would beat you hands down.
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!
no,,i like his attitude ,,he is not head in the sky ,,good fella and i saif here many times he will go far already top 10 in the sport now days,,,but! he simply got bad narrow calvicles and the whole pecs looks like it belong on regional level competitor,,never the less his good points and age and push from weider since it already stated will put him in top 3 spots in bodybuilding
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WTF,have any of you ever heard of Flex? Levorne? Ray? ::)
Actualy Ronnie doesnt have a big structure too,he was pretty narrow until 96-97 when he started packing major mass on himself.
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All he needs to do is shrink the obliques, and his structure's not that bad.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201270.0;attach=234461;image)
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Here's the thing about Phil Heath: he has the long, round muscle bellies and structure of a Mr.Olympia, but does he have the potential to pack on the 50 lbs of muscle he'll need to be Mr.Olympia without ruining his symmetry and getting a huge gut? That's the big question.