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Title: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: MarvinEderFan on February 21, 2008, 05:08:00 AM


Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 10:46:59 AM


how anybody can compare phil heath to Mr. Levrone I don't know

MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE!
MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE!
MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE!
MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE!
MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE!

 8) 8) 8)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: MarvinEderFan on February 21, 2008, 10:57:48 AM
Earl, are you able to communicate directly with k. levrone?

I'm a big fan in a strictly sport-admiration sort of way, so if I could ask 1 or 2 training questions (you could forward them) I'd appreciate it.

For instance, what his best sets of squats were.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Rearden Metal on February 21, 2008, 11:26:00 AM
Earl, are you able to communicate directly with k. levrone?

I'm a big fan in a strictly sport-admiration sort of way, so if I could ask 1 or 2 training questions (you could forward them) I'd appreciate it.

For instance, what his best sets of squats were.


Can anyone comminicate with that space cadet?
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: jaejonna on February 21, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
Thats a good Levrone vid Earl, the music goes with the posing ....
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Matt C on February 21, 2008, 11:41:23 AM
REVIEW OF THE DVD/CONTEST:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprixdvd.html

PICTURES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprix

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix


I agree that Phil isn't on Kevin's level quite yet, but he is getting there for sure!  It is also completely realistic that he surpasses Kevin's level eventually.  Keep in mind that Kevin was Phil's age in 1993 and competed successfully for 10 more years.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Sharma on February 21, 2008, 11:43:12 AM
Nasser will always shit on this guy. Nasser retires 300lbs with a ripped 8 pack. Levrone looks like he has AIDS.

Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: natural al on February 21, 2008, 11:48:06 AM
Nasser will always shit on this guy. Nasser retires 300lbs with a ripped 8 pack. Levrone looks like he has AIDS.


JEALOUS AS THE DAY IS LONG.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: England_1 on February 21, 2008, 11:50:42 AM
REVIEW OF THE DVD/CONTEST:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprixdvd.html

PICTURES:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprix

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix


I agree that Phil isn't on Kevin's level quite yet, but he is getting there for sure!  It is also completely realistic that he surpasses Kevin's level eventually.  Keep in mind that Kevin was Phil's age in 1993 and competed successfully for 10 more years.

Kevin was 2nd place in his very first Mr. Olympia in 1992  ;) Heath could barely crack top 5 at the Arnold classic with weaker competition.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: natural al on February 21, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
Nasser will always shit on this guy. Nasser retires 300lbs with a ripped 8 pack. Levrone looks like he has AIDS.


sorry "sharma" but nasser isn't even in the same league as kevin is as a BB or as a person.  How many shows did nasser finish out of the top 10?  How many shows did kevin finish out of the top 10?  I think that speaks volumes. 
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Matt C on February 21, 2008, 12:04:02 PM
Kevin was 2nd place in his very first Mr. Olympia in 1992  ;) Heath could barely crack top 5 at the Arnold classic with weaker competition.

True, but Heath has made improvements since then and appears to still be making improvements.  I wouldn't rule out the possibility quite yet that he may reach or surpass Kevin's level.  As of right now, that is debatable, but I would say Kevin is better.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 12:43:49 PM
Earl, are you able to communicate directly with k. levrone?

I'm a big fan in a strictly sport-admiration sort of way, so if I could ask 1 or 2 training questions (you could forward them) I'd appreciate it.

For instance, what his best sets of squats were.

Nasser is better to his fans than Levrone.  As soon as he caught on to me defending him here on the boards we were in touch, and now talk on the phone every couple of days.  Would Levrone give that time of day to Earl?   ::) 

sorry "sharma" but nasser isn't even in the same league as kevin is as a BB or as a person.  How many shows did nasser finish out of the top 10?  How many shows did kevin finish out of the top 10?  I think that speaks volumes. 

Nasser's hayday was 94 to 2000, just a few years shorter than Levrone's hayday.  During that hayday they both took turns beating each other.  So based on contest results alone you can't really say one was clearly better than the other.  Nasser also had the disadvantage of being more outspoken and foreign, otherwise he probably would have placed even higher in many shows.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 12:45:28 PM




"Best of all time" ?  ::)
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Sharma on February 21, 2008, 01:05:55 PM
Nasser is better to his fans than Levrone.  As soon as he caught on to me defending him here on the boards we were in touch, and now talk on the phone every couple of days.  Would Levrone give that time of day to Earl?   ::) 

Nasser's hayday was 94 to 2000, just a few years shorter than Levrone's hayday.  During that hayday they both took turns beating each other.  So based on contest results alone you can't really say one was clearly better than the other.  Nasser also had the disadvantage of being more outspoken and foreign, otherwise he probably would have placed even higher in many shows.

So true. Every word is right. Nasser has always been about the fans, this is why I never understand the hateful and spiteful reaction to him from some pumpkinheads. Nasser is probably the only guy who truly loves and respects the fans. He can't stand seeing them duped.

If Nasser was an American born guy with an American name he would have won at least one Olympia, well all knows this. Levrone never managed that and he was the 'Maryland muscle machine'. Nasser got shafted and conned. He had the best physique for 3 years and disgusting looking people won the Olympia. His Olympia.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: cht868 on February 21, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
when its all said and done phil will have a mr. o title and levrone will not
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: chester_bbb on February 21, 2008, 01:10:59 PM
So true. Every word is right. Nasser has always been about the fans, this is why I never understand the hateful and spiteful reaction to him from some pumpkinheads. Nasser is probably the only guy who truly loves and respects the fans. He can't stand seeing them duped.

If Nasser was an American born guy with an American name he would have won at least one Olympia, well all knows this. Levrone never managed that and he was the 'Maryland muscle machine'. Nasser got shafted and conned. He had the best physique for 3 years and disgusting looking people won the Olympia. His Olympia.

Yeah, who can match these delts. Not even Levrone. ;D
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 01:22:20 PM
So true. Every word is right. Nasser has always been about the fans, this is why I never understand the hateful and spiteful reaction to him from some pumpkinheads. Nasser is probably the only guy who truly loves and respects the fans. He can't stand seeing them duped.

If Nasser was an American born guy with an American name he would have won at least one Olympia, well all knows this. Levrone never managed that and he was the 'Maryland muscle machine'. Nasser got shafted and conned. He had the best physique for 3 years and disgusting looking people won the Olympia. His Olympia.

Sharma I remember reading in Flex in the late-90's that at one of the expos Nasser had a table right next to Levrone's, except Levrone's line was empty and Nasser's was extremely long with fans waiting to get photos and autographs lol.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 21, 2008, 01:24:22 PM




Imagine how Phil Heath would look in that light! Phil is better than levrone!
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: aussiepro on February 21, 2008, 02:18:17 PM
So true. Every word is right. Nasser has always been about the fans, this is why I never understand the hateful and spiteful reaction to him from some pumpkinheads. Nasser is probably the only guy who truly loves and respects the fans. He can't stand seeing them duped.

If Nasser was an American born guy with an American name he would have won at least one Olympia, well all knows this. Levrone never managed that and he was the 'Maryland muscle machine'. Nasser got shafted and conned. He had the best physique for 3 years and disgusting looking people won the Olympia. His Olympia.
im so sick of you losers saying that if Nasser was born in America he would have won a O title...TOTAL BULLSHIT, he was never good enough to win thats the end of the story, couldn't even beat dorian at his worst...
oil bloated wife beating pile of shit ;D
LOOK AT THE HUGE AMOUNT OF OIL USED
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 02:22:30 PM
im so sick of you losers saying that if Nasser was born in America he would have won a O title...TOTAL BULLSHIT, he was never good enough to win thats the end of the story, couldn't even beat dorian at his worst...
oil bloated wife beating pile of shit ;D
LOOK AT THE HUGE AMOUNT OF OIL USED

Scar tissue in his rear delts, not oil.  This was even confirmed by DoggCrap, the expert, not even a few weeks ago here on getbig.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: England_1 on February 21, 2008, 02:26:01 PM
9th place hahahahaha
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
Kevin has a way better physique then Heath, better arms, back, chest, abs, delts, legs are close.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Sharma on February 21, 2008, 02:36:31 PM
Scar tissue in his rear delts, not oil.  This was even confirmed by DoggCrap, the expert, not even a few weeks ago here on getbig.

but why should we listen to an expert and well respected guy like Doggcrapp when unemployed losers and bottom debris like aussiepro, barracuda, big worm, chesterbbb, donkeykong, chaos , pandemonium  in their grandma's basement say otherwise?
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: aussiepro on February 21, 2008, 02:53:09 PM
bigbobs you said not that long ago that nasser admitted to using oil. are you now saying that you were lying then
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: delta9mda on February 21, 2008, 02:59:05 PM
Scar tissue in his rear delts, not oil.  This was even confirmed by DoggCrap, the expert, not even a few weeks ago here on getbig.
i cant accept that scar tissue explanation. that is bullshit. he was not shooting the rear delts that much more than anything else so why the build up in only the rear delts? smells like a fish, swims like a fish........
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 03:00:01 PM
bigbobs you said not that long ago that nasser admitted to using oil. are you now saying that you were lying then

Nasser admitted to using esceline, not synthol.  Synthol and/or esceline use is as common among top pros as using toilet paper.  In other words, the likelihood of a top pro never having used oil is as likely as one never having wiped their ass.

Now about the 2001-2002 pictures, the lumps in the delts are from scar tissue caused by plain old steroid needles like every pro takes.  Nasser accumulated much scar tissue in his delts since he made the mistake of letting his wife repeatedly inject the same area, similar to Milos making the mistake of letting scar tissue accumulate in his arms at one point (which also gets mistaken for synthol).  Eventually he surgically removed the scar tissue from his rear delts since they did not disapate on their own.  You would never need to surgically remove synthol!
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 03:01:49 PM
i cant accept that scar tissue explanation. that is bullshit. he was not shooting the rear delts that much more than anything else so why the build up in only the rear delts? smells like a fish, swims like a fish........

but why should we listen to an expert and well respected guy like Doggcrapp when unemployed losers and bottom debris like aussiepro, barracuda, big worm, chesterbbb, donkeykong, chaos , pandemonium  in their grandma's basement say otherwise?
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: The_Infidel on February 21, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
Respect goes out to both Nasser and Levrone.  Great bodybuilders.  I wish there were more like them.  I've never met Kevin but Nasser was extremely cool to me when I met him.  Seemed like a good guy. 
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:26:47 PM
Nasser will always shit on this guy. Nasser retires 300lbs with a ripped 8 pack. Levrone looks like he has AIDS.



2002 Olympia

Mr. Levrone - 2nd place

nasser - 15th place


team nasser = fulblOWNED 8)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:27:56 PM
Earl, are you able to communicate directly with k. levrone?

I'm a big fan in a strictly sport-admiration sort of way, so if I could ask 1 or 2 training questions (you could forward them) I'd appreciate it.

For instance, what his best sets of squats were.

message him on myspace

E
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:30:45 PM

Can anyone comminicate with that space cadet?

you are a dork

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202071.0;attach=235067;image)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:33:06 PM
2002 Olympia

Mr. Levrone - 2nd place

nasser - 15th place


team nasser = fulblOWNED 8)

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1996 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1997 Olympia:  Nasser 2nd.  Levorne 4th
1998 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1999 Arnold Classic:  Nasser 1st.  Levrone 2nd.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:35:11 PM
Sharma I remember reading in Flex in the late-90's that at one of the expos Nasser had a table right next to Levrone's, except Levrone's line was empty and Nasser's was extremely long with fans waiting to get used clothing.

you nasser fans are sick :o

delusional too for thinking nasser is even comparable to Mr. Levrone

like i said before nasser didn't exist on this board until you assclowns showed up

a mere footnote in bodybuilding history :)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:37:08 PM
1996 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1997 Olympia:  Nasser 2nd.  Levorne 4th
1998 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1999 Arnold Classic:  Nasser 1st.  Levrone 2nd.

how does a handful of contests make up for his 15th place finish? ???

you do realize that he only got 15th because of his name and reputation right?

he should'e placed even lower

oh and in 96 nasser was disqualified 8)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:37:19 PM
1996 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1997 Olympia:  Nasser 2nd.  Levorne 4th
1998 Olympia:  Nasser 3rd.  Levrone 4th.
1999 Arnold Classic:  Nasser 1st.  Levrone 2nd.

Oh and how could I forget to add:

1997 Arnold Classic:  Nasser 2nd.  Levrone 8th.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:38:13 PM
how does a handful of contests make up for his 15th place finish? ???


Absofuckinglutely!  Nobody focuses on any athlete's placings when they are past or before their prime. 
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 21, 2008, 05:38:25 PM

Can anyone comminicate with that space cadet?
LMAO  :D
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:40:05 PM
Levrone was great - I'll admit that.

But from 96 to the first half of 99 (3 and a half years in a row) Levrone could not touch him.  Even in 95 I think Nasser beat Levrone, but I'll leave that year out since the biased judges disagreed.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:40:27 PM
Imagine how Phil Heath would look in that light! Phil is better than levrone!

better at what ???


oh and bigbobs that 8th place is the lowest Mr. Levrone ever placed, he improved immensely that year and won numerous contests

nasser 15th place 2002 olympia hahhahahahaha

also was it the noc in 2004 where he didn't place at all? hahahaha ;D

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:43:54 PM

nasser 15th place 2002 olympia hahhahahahaha

also was it the noc in 2004 where he didn't place at all? hahahaha ;D

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That's during semi-retirement - he wasn't taking his shows as seriously, just got off a divorce, had health problems, surgeries, etc.

Like I said, no one assesses an athlete before or past their prime.  That's like saying, "well right now Nasser is 300 lbs and Levrone is only 200!"

And like I asked earlier, does Levrone respect his fans enough to regularly call one of his biggest fans (you)?  Or does he not give his fans the time of day?  Nasser does!

Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:44:07 PM
Absofuckinglutely!  Nobody focuses on any athlete's placings when they are past or before their prime. 

yeah when you're biased towards nasser you can only focus on 3 years and ignore the other 7 years or so ;D

true greatness lasts longer than 3 years

92 Olympia 2nd place, 10 years later 2nd place

Kevin Levrone 8) 8) 8)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:49:12 PM
That's during semi-retirement - he wasn't taking his shows as seriously, just got off a divorce, had health problems, surgeries, etc.

Like I said, no one assesses an athlete before or past their prime.  That's like saying, "well right now Nasser is 300 lbs and Levrone is only 200!"

And like I asked earlier, does Levrone respect his fans enough to regularly call one of his biggest fans (you)?  Or does he not give his fans the time of day?  Nasser does!



if we are going to use excuses for lower placings than Mr.Levrone would've won the 2000 Olympia if not for getting a divorce, would've placed higher than 6th if he didn't tear his tricep in 03 and in 93 when he tore his chest

a true bodybuilding warrior doesn't make excuses 8)

Mr. Levrone is too busy with auditions and spending time with his wife and young son

I would never ask him to put them aside for a fan like me

nasser just has nothing better to do ;D

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:50:00 PM
Earl repeatedly ignoring the question = OWNED.


i answered it

levrOWNED again 8)

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 05:51:35 PM
if we are going to use excuses for lower placings than Mr.Levrone would've won the 2000 Olympia if not for getting a divorce, would've placed higher than 6th if he didn't tear his tricep in 03 and in 93 when he tore his chest

a true bodybuilding warrior doesn't make excuses 8)

Not making excuses, just saying those years are irrelevent since they are past his prime.  Like Doggcrap says, he doesn't judge Micheal Jordan's career on his last few years

Mr. Levrone is too busy with auditions and spending time with his wife and young son

I would never ask him to put them aside for a fan like me

nasser just has nothing better to do ;D

E

 ::)

Translation - Levrone does not care about his fans enough to be as friendly to them as Nasser does.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 21, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
Not making excuses, just saying those years are irrelevent since they are past his prime.  Like Doggcrap says, he doesn't judge Micheal Jordan's career on his last few years

 ::)

Translation - Levrone does not care about his fans enough to be as friendly to them as Nasser does.

they are irrlevant only because you want them to be ::)

like i said true greatness is measured over time, not a handful of years

I guess you think penny hardaway should be compared to jordan ::)

if Mr. Levrone doesn't feel the need to talk on the phone with fans like me that's fine, in all honesty I would think he was a little weird if he wanted to

it would make me think that he doesn't have much going on in his life :-\

when he posted here i sent him a total of ONE private message where I commented on his segment in BFTO 98

there was no need for anymore private communication

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Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 21, 2008, 06:06:45 PM
Holy crap ;D


Earl1972

VS

Bigbobs


Knocking it out, its gonna be close, its a close tough battle. Who can land the knock out punch. Stay tuned, its fifty-fifty so far!!



Gents, stay ontopic, tell me which contest was nasser at his best?
and in which levrone was?

then we can come to a beter conclusion!!
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Hulkster on February 21, 2008, 06:08:22 PM
this is what 1999 Ronnie has to say about Kevin and Nasser:

 ;D
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
this is what 1999 Ronnie has to say about Kevin and Nasser:

 ;D

I can also post shots of ronnie when he's not in his prime with nasser when he's closer to his prime, if you're going to play that game.  Nasser was not at his usual size (about 15-20 lbs smaller) at the 99 Mr. O.  Turn to the 99 Arnold Classic and he won it at 289 lbs.  (was only 264 at the 99 Mr. O)
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Hulkster on February 21, 2008, 06:12:16 PM
I can also post shots of ronnie when he's not in his prime with nasser when he's closer to his prime, if you're going to play that game.  Nasser was not at his usual size (about 15-20 lbs smaller) at the 99 Mr. O.  Turn to the 99 Arnold Classic and he won it at 289 lbs.  (was only 264 at the 99 Mr. O)

true. but as far as Kevin or nasser being the best of all time? no.

99 Ronnie is! 8)
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 21, 2008, 06:17:48 PM
Levrone looks like he has AIDS.




Sharma you re a delusional disrespecting clown. LEt me tell you one thing i remember some regular females looking at bodybuilding pics and they were all repulsed and disqusted by the look of the faces and bodies of the bodybuilders ofcourse. When they saw levrone they said this is the first and only one loooking kinda cute. Your comments are misplaced and stupid. you re a disgrace to team nasser and you give the teamsters a bad name.
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Luinitari on February 21, 2008, 06:25:35 PM
Nasser admitted to using esceline, not synthol.  Synthol and/or esceline use is as common among top pros as using toilet paper.  In other words, the likelihood of a top pro never having used oil is as likely as one never having wiped their ass.

Now about the 2001-2002 pictures, the lumps in the delts are from scar tissue caused by plain old steroid needles like every pro takes.  Nasser accumulated much scar tissue in his delts since he made the mistake of letting his wife repeatedly inject the same area, similar to Milos making the mistake of letting scar tissue accumulate in his arms at one point (which also gets mistaken for synthol).  Eventually he surgically removed the scar tissue from his rear delts since they did not disapate on their own.  You would never need to surgically remove synthol!

Everyone knows that Synthol works by creating spaces in the muscle tissue which scar tissue forms in to fill the void, thus making the gains permanent.  The oil doesn't stick around forever, it is reabsorbed into the bloodstream and expelled. 

Nasser having scar tissue removed does NOT rule out the use of Synthol, but instead it pretty much points to the fact that he did use it (which he's already admitted to anyway so there is no debateing this bigbobs).
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: bigbobs on February 21, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
Everyone knows that Synthol works by creating spaces in the muscle tissue which scar tissue forms in to fill the void, thus making the gains permanent.  The oil doesn't stick around forever, it is reabsorbed into the bloodstream and expelled. 

Nasser having scar tissue removed does NOT rule out the use of Synthol, but instead it pretty much points to the fact that he did use it (which he's already admitted to anyway so there is no debateing this bigbobs).

Why do you insist on believing that the scar tissue is the result of synthol and not just steroid needles. 

How often does synthol create scar tissue compared to needles themselves?   ::)
Title: Re: Levrone - Best of all time!
Post by: Moosejay on February 21, 2008, 06:32:37 PM




No.