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Title: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
John McCain has a remarkable record of leadership and experience that embodies his unwavering lifetime commitment to service. First elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Arizona in 1982, John has led the fight for reforming Washington, eliminating wasteful government spending, and strengthening our nation's armed forces.
John McCain's reform agenda to reduce federal spending and lower taxes quickly elevated him to statewide office and he was elected to the United States Senate in 1986, after serving two terms in the U.S. House.

In the Senate, John continued to demand that Congress put an end to loopholes for special interests and fix the broken system in Washington that too often allows lobbyists to write legislation and members of Congress to waste taxpayer money. In November 2004, Senator McCain was overwhelmingly reelected with nearly 77 percent of the vote.

As the son and grandson of distinguished Navy admirals, John McCain deeply values duty, honor and service of country. John attended college at the United States Naval Academy, and launched a 22-year career as a naval aviator upon his graduation. He continued the McCain tradition of service to country passed down to him from his father and grandfather when he asked to serve in the Vietnam War.

On July 29 1967, John narrowly survived the first of many near-death experiences during his lifetime while preparing to take off on a bombing mission over North Vietnam from his ship, the USS Forrestal. A missile accidentally fired from a nearby plane struck the fuel tanks on John's plane and created a deadly inferno aboard the ship. John barely escaped the fiery disaster that killed 134 men, injured hundreds more and destroyed 20 planes.

Instead of taking the option to return home after the Forrestal disaster, Senator McCain volunteered for more combat duty - a fateful decision that stopped the clock on his life and separated him from his family, and country, for five and a half years.

During his 23rd bombing mission on October 26, 1967, a missile struck John's plane and forced him to eject, knocking him unconscious and breaking both his arms and his leg. John was then taken as a prisoner of war into the now infamous "Hanoi Hilton," where he was denied necessary medical treatment and often beaten by the North Vietnamese.

John spent much of his time as a prisoner of war in solitary confinement, aided by his faith and the friendships of his fellow POWs. When he was finally released and able to return home years later, John continued his service by regaining his naval flight status.

Senator McCain's last Navy duty assignment was to serve as the naval liaison to the United States Senate. John retired from the Navy in 1981. His naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart, and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Senator McCain has seven children and four grandchildren, and currently lives in Phoenix, Arizona with his wife Cindy.


I'm sorry, what has Obama done??



Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Squadfather on March 01, 2008, 04:07:21 PM
no offense Joe because i agree with you but doesn't this shit belong on the Politics board, especially on the night of one of the biggest pro shows of the year?
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: sgt. d on March 01, 2008, 04:07:30 PM
Is John McCain a bodybuilder? ???
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: calmus on March 01, 2008, 04:08:11 PM

John McCain can suck Johnny Falcon's sweaty nutsack.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:08:36 PM
no offense Joe because i agree with you but doesn't this shit belong on the Politics board, especially on the night of one of the biggest pro shows of the year?

Just keeping with 240 :P
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: War-Horse on March 01, 2008, 04:14:17 PM
Mccain is a war-mongering dumbass with enough public corruption scandals to fill a million fannypacks.


Hes being called:   "More of the same, McCain"     You guys want marshall law and a full collapse of the dollar.........then vote for the "beady-eyed Napoleon wanna-be" mccain. ::)
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Mccain is a war-mongering dumbass with enough public corruption scandals to fill a million fannypacks.


Hes being called:   "More of the same, McCain"     You guys want marshall law and a full collapse of the dollar.........then vote for the "beady-eyed Napoleon wanna-be" mccain. ::)

Still doesn't answer my question.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:36:04 PM
 ::)


Still doesn't answer my question.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:49:44 PM

no different than underachiever bush.............period.

Dumbest post in the history of this board.

Anyone and I mean ANYONE, Democrat or Liberal, Republican or Conservative who is or was President is hardly an underachiever. I might not like the Liberals stance on things, but anyone who has aspirations of becoming President, or even a state elected official is hardly an "underachiever".
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: War-Horse on March 01, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
::)


Still doesn't answer my question.



You dont get it as usual.  ::)   The country would rather elect ANYONE with opposite plans of BUSH/Mccain............Thats how fucked up this is.
  You are EPICALLY stupid in every way.

P.S.    Have you learned the difference between a Box jump and a vertical in the combines......Coach... ;D
Obama will be the next President. The time for murdering wars and corruptive republican spending is over.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 04:54:24 PM


You dont get it as usual.  ::)   The country would rather elect ANYONE with opposite plans of BUSH/Mccain............Thats how fucked up this is.
  You are EPICALLY stupid in every way.

P.S.    Have you learned the difference between a Box jump and a vertical in the combines......Coach... ;D
Obama will be the next President. The time for murdering wars and corruptive republican spending is over.

You still haven't answered my question.

Please don't go there when it comes to training athletes.........I'll bury you for sure on that.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Moosejay on March 01, 2008, 05:05:56 PM
Joe:

Why bother talking sense to these fellows?

They don't understand as you and I do...that:

"there are no victims, there are only volunteers..."

Mike
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Moosejay on March 01, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
Do you even like yourself, neurotoxin?
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 06:17:17 PM

mccain was a shit pilot, shit prisoner, shit husband and shit politician. just ask the fat, deaf, bald, limp, drug addict rush limbaugh. we happen to agree.

You need to watch this without name calling (for a change)


http://www.johnmccain.com/courageous/
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 01, 2008, 07:23:15 PM
obama dwarfs you
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: War-Horse on March 01, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
You still haven't answered my question.

Please don't go there when it comes to training athletes.........I'll bury you for sure on that.



Hahahaha, Youre the dumbass that has kids run 4.6    40's   and vertical leap 36" easily........self-ownage of the century.... :o
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Dos Equis on March 01, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
John McCain has a remarkable record of leadership and experience that embodies his unwavering lifetime commitment to service. First elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Arizona in 1982, John has led the fight for reforming Washington, eliminating wasteful government spending, and strengthening our nation's armed forces.
John McCain's reform agenda to reduce federal spending and lower taxes quickly elevated him to statewide office and he was elected to the United States Senate in 1986, after serving two terms in the U.S. House.

In the Senate, John continued to demand that Congress put an end to loopholes for special interests and fix the broken system in Washington that too often allows lobbyists to write legislation and members of Congress to waste taxpayer money. In November 2004, Senator McCain was overwhelmingly reelected with nearly 77 percent of the vote.

As the son and grandson of distinguished Navy admirals, John McCain deeply values duty, honor and service of country. John attended college at the United States Naval Academy, and launched a 22-year career as a naval aviator upon his graduation. He continued the McCain tradition of service to country passed down to him from his father and grandfather when he asked to serve in the Vietnam War.

On July 29 1967, John narrowly survived the first of many near-death experiences during his lifetime while preparing to take off on a bombing mission over North Vietnam from his ship, the USS Forrestal. A missile accidentally fired from a nearby plane struck the fuel tanks on John's plane and created a deadly inferno aboard the ship. John barely escaped the fiery disaster that killed 134 men, injured hundreds more and destroyed 20 planes.

Instead of taking the option to return home after the Forrestal disaster, Senator McCain volunteered for more combat duty - a fateful decision that stopped the clock on his life and separated him from his family, and country, for five and a half years.

During his 23rd bombing mission on October 26, 1967, a missile struck John's plane and forced him to eject, knocking him unconscious and breaking both his arms and his leg. John was then taken as a prisoner of war into the now infamous "Hanoi Hilton," where he was denied necessary medical treatment and often beaten by the North Vietnamese.

John spent much of his time as a prisoner of war in solitary confinement, aided by his faith and the friendships of his fellow POWs. When he was finally released and able to return home years later, John continued his service by regaining his naval flight status.

Senator McCain's last Navy duty assignment was to serve as the naval liaison to the United States Senate. John retired from the Navy in 1981. His naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart, and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Senator McCain has seven children and four grandchildren, and currently lives in Phoenix, Arizona with his wife Cindy.


I'm sorry, what has Obama done??





He really does have an impressive background.  That's one of the major advantages he has over Obama.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 10:48:37 PM


Hahahaha, Youre the dumbass that has kids run 4.6    40's   and vertical leap 36" easily........self-ownage of the century.... :o

Ummm, do you know how to train someone on how to increase their vert? I never said that a box jump = a vertical leap. Do you REALLY want to test your training knowledge of athletes against me???????
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: calmus on March 01, 2008, 11:16:43 PM
He really does have an impressive background.  That's one of the major advantages he has over Obama.

Oooh, he was  POW. How impressive! ::)
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2008, 11:28:47 PM
Oooh, he was  POW. How impressive! ::)

For 7 years........you think it was a walk in the park? Wasn't exacly Club Med.

Why don't you look at the link before you speak?
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Dos Equis on March 01, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
Oooh, he was  POW. How impressive! ::)

 ::)  Yes, that's the sum total of his experience.   ::)
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: calmus on March 02, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
::)  Yes, that's the sum total of his experience.   ::)

Hahaha, I'm so under your skin, old timer.   ;D
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2008, 12:20:45 AM
Joe,

Can you look at the counter-points the man made?

Accept them/agree.... or dispute them.

You shared a nice list of facts about mccain, and he posted a list coutnering your claim.

Ball's in your court.  Do you accept his words as fact?  is he wrong?
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2008, 12:21:50 AM
Hahaha, I'm so under your skin, old timer.   ;D

 ::) ::)  If you think you're under my skin, then you haven't been hanging around here long enough.  
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: calmus on March 02, 2008, 12:34:36 AM
::) ::)  If you think you're under my skin, then you haven't been hanging around here long enough.  

Oh yeah, I'm sure you hit the  ::) multiple times because you don't care.  ;D

240, do you actually expect Joe to respond? He reaches his conclusions first, and then looks for reasons to support them. 

Any reasonable person can see that McCain is a grade A douche who hasn't accomplished squat.

All his "reform" is nothing but a hill of beans.  He's still in bed with lobbyists when it suits him, and just today Buffett was complaining about the continued rotten state of corporate America.

And the DoD is in a fine state as well.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2008, 12:40:15 AM
no offense to mccain, but he is the 2008 version of the 96 Bob Dole.

Clinton was unbeatable in 1996, they knew it, and they put up a party elder to hold the spot while the popular Dem finished his term.

They knew that Nov 2008, we'd be looking at the end of a shitty war, at the start of a recession/depression, and the mood (as evidenced by primaries) is that Americans are ready for change.  They're putting mccain up to take the Dole spot.  Any dem they run will get in - especially because economy will be even worse by november.

Repubs know this.  Rudy, Romney were both more electable than mccain.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: calmus on March 02, 2008, 12:45:14 AM
no offense to mccain, but he is the 2008 version of the 96 Bob Dole.

Clinton was unbeatable in 1996, they knew it, and they put up a party elder to hold the spot while the popular Dem finished his term.

They knew that Nov 2008, we'd be looking at the end of a shitty war, at the start of a recession/depression, and the mood (as evidenced by primaries) is that Americans are ready for change.  They're putting mccain up to take the Dole spot.  Any dem they run will get in - especially because economy will be even worse by november.

Repubs know this.  Rudy, Romney were both more electable than mccain.

I don't know where he gets the gumption to stand there and act like he's done something worthy with his life.   

Consistently mediocre all his life.

Just traded on his connections. 

And I bet you we're already in a recession. Seems like the last quarter of 07 was pretty bad, and 08 has sucked so far.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Moosejay on March 02, 2008, 02:50:24 PM
Take care of your own, personal economic status and your points will not matter to you.

Self-responsibility is the true panacea for many of the societal purported woes propagated by the liberal media.
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Moosejay on March 02, 2008, 02:56:58 PM
hey moosecocck, stick it up your ass !


Ummm, why are you so angry?
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: The Coach on March 02, 2008, 03:02:59 PM
mccain and the economy. this guy is a serial liar ! get your facts straight, mr. straight talk express.  ::)


 



John McCain believes taxes should be low, simple, and fair and has a track record of commitment to these principles.

Cut Taxes On The Middle Class

Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families: Hard-working American families need lower taxes. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) -- a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families. John McCain will repeal this onerous tax, saving middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 -- a real tax cut for working families.
Pro-Growth Tax Policy

Keep Tax Rates Low: Entrepreneurs are at the heart of American innovation, growth and prosperity. Entrepreneurs create the ultimate job security -- a new, better opportunity if your current job goes away. Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission. John McCain will fight the Democrats' crippling plans for a tax increase in 2011. Left to their devices, Democrats will impose a massive $100 billion tax hike, almost $700 per taxpayer every year.
Make It Harder To Raise Taxes: John McCain believes it should require a 3/5 majority vote in Congress to raise taxes.
Cut The Corporate Tax Rate From 35 To 25 Percent. A lower corporate tax rate is essential to U.S. competitiveness. America was once a low-tax business environment, but as our trade partners lowered their rates, America failed to keep pace, leaving us with the second-highest rate among the world’s advanced economies.
Reward Saving, Investment and Risk-Taking: Low taxes on dividends and capital gains promote saving, channel investment dollars to innovative, high-value uses and not wasteful financial planning. John McCain will keep the current rates on dividends and capital gains and fight anti-growth efforts by Democrats.
Allow First-Year Deduction, Or “Expensing”, Of Equipment And Technology Investments. Expensing of equipment and technology will provide an immediate boost to capital expenditures and reward investments in cutting-edge technologies.
Pro-Innovation Tax Cuts

Ban Internet Taxes: John McCain believes we must make a farsighted, robust, and fervent commitment to innovation and new technologies to sustain our global competitiveness, meet our national security challenges, achieve less costly and more effective health care, reduce dangerous dependence on foreign sources of oil, and raise the quality of education in the United States. John McCain has been a leader in keeping the Internet free of taxes. As President, he will seek a permanent ban on taxes that threaten this engine of economic growth and prosperity.
Ban New Cell Phone Taxes: John McCain understands that the same people that would tax e-mail will tax every text message -- and even 911 calls. John McCain will prohibit new cellular telephone taxes.
Establish Permanent Tax Credit Equal To 10 Percent Of Wages Spent On R&D. This reform will simplify the tax code, reward activity in the United States, and make us more competitive with other countries. A permanent credit will provide an incentive to innovate and remove uncertainty. At a time when our companies need to be more competitive, we need to provide a permanent incentive to innovate, and remove the uncertainty now hanging over businesses as they make R&D investment decisions.
Retirement Tax Cut

Lower Medicare Premiums: Seniors face a growing threat from higher Medicare premiums that tax away their Social Security and retirement savings. John McCain has proposed comprehensive, pro-market health care and Medicare reforms to reduce health care costs and control increases in premiums -- while delivering high-quality health care.
REFORMING WASHINGTON TO REGAIN THE TRUST OF TAXPAYERS
Wasteful spending in Washington has gone from irresponsible to indefensible. Right now, even the government reports that one-fifth of programs are receiving failing marks. John McCain will restore the trust that Americans have lost in their government spending their hard earned money wisely. (John McCain's detailed government reform plan may be found here.)

Eliminating Wasteful Spending

Stop Earmarks, Pork-Barrel Spending, And Waste: John McCain will veto every pork-laden spending bill and make their authors famous. As President, he will seek the line-item veto to reduce waste and eliminate earmarks that have led to corruption. Earmarks restrict America's ability to address genuine national priorities and interfere with fair, competitive markets.
Leadership, Courage And Choices: Reduced spending means making choices. John McCain will provide the courageous leadership necessary to control spending, including:
Eliminate broken government programs. The federal government itself admits that 1 in 5 programs do not perform.
Reform our civil service system to promote accountability and good performance in our federal workforce.
Eliminate earmarks, wasteful subsidies, and pork-barrel spending.
Reform procurement programs and cut wasteful spending in defense and non-defense programs.
Budgetary Reform To Give Tax Cuts A Fair Chance

Congress Has Unfairly Stacked The Deck To Spend More And Raise Taxes.
If a spending program is on the books, budgets assume that it is on the books forever -- and continues to grow -- even if the law says it expires.
If low taxes are on the books, budgets don't assume that they last forever. When they expire, those taxes are automatically raised.
John McCain will reform budgeting to treat equally spending and taxes and to stop damaging tax hikes.
Reforming Entitlement Programs For The 21st Century

Reform Social Security: John McCain will fight to save the future of Social Security and believes that we may meet our obligations to the retirees of today and the future without raising taxes. John McCain supports supplementing the current Social Security system with personal accounts -- but not as a substitute for addressing benefit promises that cannot be kept. John McCain will reach across the aisle, but if the Democrats do not act, he will. No problem is in more need of honesty than the looming financial challenges of entitlement programs. Americans have the right to know the truth and John McCain will not leave office without fixing the problems that threatens our future prosperity and power.
Control Medicare Growth: The growth of spending on Medicare threatens our fiscal future. John McCain has proposed comprehensive health care reforms that will reduce the growth in Medicare spending, protect seniors against rising Medicare premium payments, and preserve the advancements in medical science central to providing quality care.
Trade and Displaced Workers

Lower Barriers to Trade: John McCain believes that globalization is an opportunity for American workers today and in the future. Ninety-five percent of the world's customers lie outside our borders and we need to be at the table when the rules for access to those markets are written. To do so, the U.S. should engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade, level the global playing field and build effective enforcement of global trading rules.
Competitive American Workers: John McCain understands that globalization will not automatically benefit every American. We must prepare the next generation of workers by making American education worthy of the promise we make to our children and ourselves. We must be a nation committed to competitiveness and opportunity. We must fight for the ability of all students to have access to any school of demonstrated excellence. We must place parents and children at the center of the education process, empowering parents by greatly expanding the ability of parents to choose among schools for their children.
John McCain will overhaul unemployment insurance and make it a program for retraining, relocating and assisting workers who have lost a job. The unemployment insurance system needs to be modernized to meet the goals of helping displaced workers make ends meet between jobs and moving people quickly on to the next opportunity. John McCain will reform the half-dozen training programs to approaches that can be used to meet the bills, pay for training, and get back to work. John McCain believes that we can strengthen community colleges and technical training, and give displaced workers more choices to find their way back to productive and prosperous lives.

Health Care Reform

Comprehensive Health Care Reform: John McCain believes health care reform should address the rising costs that threaten families' budgets, business competitiveness, and government programs by making the entire system responsive to the needs of American families. Families should receive quality, accountable care at lower costs by harnessing market competition. (John McCain's detailed plan to reform our health care system may be found here.)
Market-Based Energy Reform

National Strategy For Energy Security: John McCain will deliver a national energy strategy that declares independence from the risk bred by our reliance on oil imported from petro-dictators the vulnerability to the troubled politics of their lands. John McCain is a proven conservative, and his strategy will not rely on subsidies, rifle-shot tax breaks, line-items for lobbyists, or big-government debacles. It will promote the diversification and conservation of our energy sources and substantially reduce the impact of our energy consumption on the planet. It will rely on the genius and technological prowess of American industry and science. Government must set achievable goals, but the markets should be free to produce the means. (John McCain's full energy security plan may be found here.)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: Moosejay on March 02, 2008, 04:11:15 PM
obama by a LANDSLIDE in Nov.



I'd like to see him win. It is unlikely, however
Title: Re: John McCain
Post by: War-Horse on March 02, 2008, 07:05:29 PM
Take care of your own, personal economic status and your points will not matter to you.

Self-responsibility is the true panacea for many of the societal purported woes propagated by the liberal media.



Holy hell moosey.  Dont you know that all getbiggers are corporate millionares with 500lb benches and 20" arms cold????? :o