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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: gunnz on March 03, 2008, 05:55:39 AM
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On my first cylce. I injected into my thigh (outer side) on Saturday, and last night my quad right above my knee started to ache, pretty intensely, about 6-8 inches from where I injected? Feels like it is cramped or something, or like I injected there?
Any ideas why?
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Sometimes injections just hurt? Especailly if you're usin t400...fuck why did i buy more t400...havent been walkin right for weeks.
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I have had that happen as well. What did you inject? Prop always hurts no matter where you put it imo. I wouldn't worry about it to much unless it gets really red, sore to the touch or you develope a fever, then I would say you got an infection. For some reason some people are not able to due quad shot. I personaly can due my left quad but when i do my right i am damn near crippled for 3 days. Go to www.siteinjections.com and research other areas. My first cycle I used my delts mostly and gluted every once in a while.
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My concern is that the site where I injected is not where it is hurting, it is right above my knee cap? I injected in my outer right and left thighs? Left is fine, right is hurting, but not where I injected? I think the left is where I had the winny?
But as I said, the soreness is not where I injected?
200 mg Test Cyponate, 100 mg Test Propinate, and 50 mg of winny in two 3 cc 23 guage pins.
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If it was me I would give it 2-3 days and if it dont get any better then see a doc, but if its showings signs of improvement then i would wait it out for up to a week before seeing a doc. Like I said Prop hurts BAD at times and its not always where you injected its the whole muscle that can get sore.
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You should be fine. It's most likely the prop, gravity pulled it down toward your knee and the ester is causing the pain there. You'll be fine. Quad shots are always a bitch for me, especially with prop.
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On my first cylce. I injected into my thigh (outer side) on Saturday, and last night my quad right above my knee started to ache, pretty intensely, about 6-8 inches from where I injected? Feels like it is cramped or something, or like I injected there?
Any ideas why?
The shit don't stop 'till the Test goes Prop.
That's nothing out of the ordinary.
DIV
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You should be fine. It's most likely the prop, gravity pulled it down toward your knee and the ester is causing the pain there. You'll be fine. Quad shots are always a bitch for me, especially with prop.
Bumping this the oil will travel! Gravity will pull it closer to the knee! Your body will get used to the injections eventually. I shoot my quads all the time with no problem at all.
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Having some soreness also could be type of oil not dissipating well, i was welling up and had pain 3or4 inches down from injection spot, I started to heat up just with hot tap water, bottle before injection then after injection i would take cotton swab and use thumb and press right on injection sight hard and massage around, then next evening I would throw hot pack on it and massage this took away the welling up and knocked the pain down by 75% but don't get me wrong still hurts.
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This was stolen from another board but applicable to the discussion of painful injections:
High Mg per ML Roids, What you need to know ?
1. Most hormones have a pretty low solubility in oil.
2. The primary ways to increase solubility are to
A) add solvent (BA or EA).
B) Add an ester to the hormone. The longer the ester
the more hormone will fit in the oil at a certain mg
per ml ratio. Conversely, the weight of the ester is
also factored in the total mg per ml ratio, so while
you can fit more hormone in, you are getting less
actual hormone than the mg amount implies. Here are
some examples:
Ester actual mg/100mg dose
test no ester 100
tren acetate 87
test prop 83
test enanth 72
test cyp 70
test undecan 63
nand phenyl 67
nand deca 64
This means that if your test cyp says 200 mgs per ml
you get an actual 140 mgs of test. The rest of the
weight is the weight of the ester. If that sounds like
a bad deal you need to understand that test no ester
is VERY insoluble in oil without going to very high mg
per ml solvent concentrations.
This brings up the next point; PAIN!
Why do some shots hurt? There are two primary reasons.
One, the solvent ratio is too high. Anything over
about 10% starts to hurt. BA and EA are VERY
inflammatory to the tissues. That?s why you want ONLY
enough to help your oil hold more gear but not so much
that it causes inflammation.
The second reason is that the gear crystallizes in the
depot. This is precisely why water-based suspensions
feel like hammer blows. The water is absorbed FAST,
leaving the gear to crystallize in the tissues = PAIN.
Even gear in oil can do this, here is how it works. If
you use a low ester weight attached to your gear and
make the mg per ml ratio SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the
oil will hold on it's own, what happens is the body
absorbs the solvent faster than the oil/gear and the
gear falls out of the solution and crystallizes in the
depot and WHAM, it hurts like hell. An optimum
solution has just enough solvent to get more gear into
solution than you could otherwise, but not so much
that what I just stated happens. When the ratios are
correct the gear holds in the solution UNTIL the whole
depot is absorbed and very little or no pain is felt.
Just to end this misconception once and for all IT IS
NOT THE VOLUME OF THE OIL THAT CAUSES THE PAIN, IT IS
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS STATED ABOVE. You can shoot 5
cc's of sterile oil and never know you took a shot. It
IS NOT HOW MUCH OIL YOU SHOOT! So why does everyone
search for super high mg per ml ratio gear like it's
the damn holy grail???
What is too high?
Well the length of the ester is
really what determines that but most of us here know
the gear that hurts and know we know why. All tests
over 250 mgs per ml hurt, and actually most of the 250
mg tests hurt too. SOOOO many people want there tren
at 150-200 mgs per ml. Tren acetate should be at about
what?? 75 mgs per ml. That is why all the kits are
designed this way. Do you really think it's cheaper
for the kit producers to add MORE oil to their kits
instead of less? One other quick note. Oil is used
because it SLOWS absorption. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT
YOU WANT IN A STEROID SHOT! Less oil does not promote
the steady state hormone levels achieved with more oil.
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My concern is that the site where I injected is not where it is hurting, it is right above my knee cap? I injected in my outer right and left thighs? Left is fine, right is hurting, but not where I injected? I think the left is where I had the winny?
But as I said, the soreness is not where I injected?
200 mg Test Cyponate, 100 mg Test Propinate, and 50 mg of winny in two 3 cc 23 guage pins.
Dont worry
i had the same thing happened to me but on my right Bicep... it hurted like a motha the day after the injection and it started gettign red-ish...
after a few massages with a hot towel the pain started to go down...
the reason it hurts below the injection site is cause thats where the oil settle down i assume you walked around and were standing up most of the time as most fo us do, so you have to figure that gravity will take effect... unless it you get a fever i will suggest you take it like a man and suck it up.
Then again ...
i dont know sht
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