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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stavios on March 04, 2008, 10:53:49 AM
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
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That information could be from a research
I know that Dave himself uses up to and more than 250g protein with some of his clients
each body is different and I dont think anyone can set a standard or common formula for protein absorption
Beef takes up to 24 hours for the body to actually digest it, convert it to amino acids / peptides and make use of it. Milk takes 8 hours to do so
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The intra workout shake is completely missing the point obviously, just like the eating of bananas during cycling races is useless.
The workout shake thing could be useful if you started training first thing in the morning on an empty stomach
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With a degree in nutrition and having been in the supplement industry for over 10 years now, I've never heard of the "8 grams of protein per hour" rule? I would love for Dave to reference the study that showed this.
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That information could be from a research
I know that Dave himself uses up to and more than 250g protein with some of his clients
each body is different and I dont think anyone can set a standard or common formula for protein absorption
Beef takes up to 24 hours for the body to actually digest it, convert it to amino acids / peptides and make use of it. Milk takes 8 hours to do so
24 hours ?
so you think beef isn't the best choice of protein source then ?
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ummm..it depends on what foods you eat with the protein and what type of protein. u fucking idiots. everything gets used but the uptake can take hours, just another reason why the eat protein every 3 hours rule is bs.
palbombo doesnt know shit. bodybuilders still live in the dark ages.
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24 hours ?
so you think beef isn't the best choice of protein source then ?
Beef if a fantastic choice ... you just have to know what u r eating and how long it will stay to get in your system ... Beef Vs. WPI ... of course the WPI is much faster but the muscle building quality you get from beef is more solid ... you have to use a combination and know when to use what.
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ummm..it depends on what foods you eat with the protein and what type of protein. u fucking idiots. everything gets used but the uptake can take hours, just another reason why the eat protein every 3 hours rule is bs.
palbombo doesnt know shit. bodybuilders still live in the dark ages.
absolutely true, but it's amazing how much of this bs gets taken as factual by so many sports nutritionists
if it wasn't for the invention of exogenous testosterone all these myths would have been debunked many years ago. rather ironic that steroids have proved to be the greatest boon to the supplement industry.
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24 hours ?
so you think beef isn't the best choice of protein source then ?
Its a safe choice because like casein it slowly alocates the aminos so over a 24 hr peroid you are always having a supply other than your own muscle.
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absolutely true, but it's amazing how much of this bs gets taken as factual by so many sports nutritionists
if it wasn't for the invention of exogenous testosterone all these myths would have been debunked many years ago. rather ironic that steroids have proved to be the greatest boon to the supplement industry.
the fact is bodybuilders dont know shit about nuttin. they dont understand nutrition or training, and anytime that i can be bothered to log on here (almost never these days) i see the same bs discussed. (gotta eat every three hours, is this a good chest routine? bla bla)
bodybuilding is all drugs, and the drugs mask all the mistakes they do. so they really havent got a reason to learn anything new.
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and protein supplement industry laughing all the way to the bank. People who say they get bigger when they up their protein to like 3-400grams, it's probably due to increased calories.
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bodybuilding is all drugs, and the drugs mask all the mistakes they do. so they really havent got a reason to learn anything new.
hey man...i am interested in what knowledge you posess. honestly.
could you tell me whta is, in your opinion, the biggest mistake that most bb'ers make that hinders their gains the most?
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Its a safe choice because like casein it slowly alocates the aminos so over a 24 hr peroid you are always having a supply other than your own muscle.
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hey man...i am interested in what knowledge you posess. honestly.
could you tell me whta is, in your opinion, the biggest mistake that most bb'ers make that hinders their gains the most?
eating excessive amounts of egg whites and broccoli... ::)
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
palumbo is very smart. i look up to him in many areas...mostly knowledge of anabolics. ;D BUT, he is of point on the workout nutrition.
the thing is...bcaa's can be instantized. leuicine can be intsantized. whey is pre digested. all of these will hit the blood stream immideitly. like he said....WHOLE FOODS take long time to digest. shakes are not whole food!
AND there is a huge great deal of science supporting having concentrated amounts of aminos, specifically bcaa's and leucine, during and immidietly post workout.
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and protein supplement industry laughing all the way to the bank. People who say they get bigger when they up their protein to like 3-400grams, it's probably due to increased calories.
lets say someone use steroids
their role is to increase protein synthesis. So someone on steroids can eat more than the 8 grams Palumbo mentions and it would still be absorbed ?
discuss
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eating excessive amounts of egg whites and broccoli... ::)
if you are dieting there is no better meal than 50 grams egg whites, as much broccoli as you can eat, and 10 grams efa's..(id go with 6 omega-3, 3 omega-6, 1 omega-9.)
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I thought the whole point of mixing WMS with amino acids is that its used immediately. The WMS acts as the carrier by which the amino's ready to be used are carried into the blood stream.
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and protein supplement industry laughing all the way to the bank. People who say they get bigger when they up their protein to like 3-400grams, it's probably due to increased calories.
most people can EASILY cover their proteinneed without ANY protein powders or such.
if your on drugs..its another ballgame...because your proteinsynthesis is upgraded (you could also argue that you could get away with less protein as the body is more efficient using protein as you use drugs..). if your on drugs then it can be useful to eat more protein. but never 600-700g a day as some idiots do.
for a natual the old recommendation of 2 g protein/kg bw/day is plenty!
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lets say someone use steroids
their role is to increase protein synthesis. So someone on steroids can eat more than the 8 grams Palumbo mentions and it would still be absorbed ?
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yo stavios..i think steroids enhance digestion as well. so you could probably be absorbign much more than 8 grams per hour.
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hey man...i am interested in what knowledge you posess. honestly.
could you tell me whta is, in your opinion, the biggest mistake that most bb'ers make that hinders their gains the most?
yup, not focusing on adding more weight to the bar.
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yup, not focusing on adding more weight to the bar.
so u are a believer in dante's theory that with strength comes size..and focus on strength?
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palumbo is very smart. i look up to him in many areas...mostly knowledge of anabolics. ;D BUT, he is of point on the workout nutrition.
the thing is...bcaa's can be instantized. leuicine can be intsantized. whey is pre digested. all of these will hit the blood stream immideitly. like he said....WHOLE FOODS take long time to digest. shakes are not whole food!
AND there is a huge great deal of science supporting having concentrated amounts of aminos, specifically bcaa's and leucine, during and immidietly post workout.
hmmm...so you know nothing about the human digestion system then.
here, i'll help you, whey protein still has to be processed via the digestive system. it does not provide 'instant' amino acids but hey, congratulations on being another conned loser to the supplement industry. just remember, milos loves you. you'll never have 'empty blood' or 'wasted workouts' again. :D
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so u are a believer in dante's theory that with strength comes size..and focus on strength?
its not dantes theory. its reality.
edit: a bodybuilder should focus on building strength in the 5-8 rep range, + some sets of 8-12/15 added in.
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hmmm...so you know nothing about the human digestion system then.
here, i'll help you, whey protein still has to be processed via the digestive system. it does not provide 'instant' amino acids but hey, congratulations on being another conned loser to the supplement industry. juwst remember, milos loves you. you'll never have 'empty blood' or 'wasted workouts' again. :D
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okay. so what does that mean? sure...everything has to get absorbed somewhere. but the point is..its PRE DIGESTED..so the digestion process does not have to take place. thus, the wqhole"8 grams every hour" rate lmiting concept is thrown out the window.
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so u are a believer in dante's theory that with strength comes size..and focus on strength?
well i can agree with dante on that one.
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its not dantes theory. its reality.
whats yoru thoughts on stimulating hypertrophy then? simply lift heavy?
honestly. i would like to know your thoughts on this,.
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okay. so what does that mean? sure...everything has to get absorbed somewhere. but the point is..its PRE DIGESTED..so the digestion process does not have to take place. thus, the wqhole"8 grams every hour" rate lmiting concept is thrown out the window.
hint: pre-digested food products still have to be digested. if they didn't, you would be dead. ;)
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lool...okay, so what happens during "digestion" then, huh?
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they are simply absorbed..
the rate limiting concept stems from the idea that it takes alot of time and energy to break down and digest amino acids from whole food protien sources..
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the fact is bodybuilders dont know shit about nuttin. they dont understand nutrition or training, and anytime that i can be bothered to log on here (almost never these days) i see the same bs discussed. (gotta eat every three hours, is this a good chest routine? bla bla)
bodybuilding is all drugs, and the drugs mask all the mistakes they do. so they really havent got a reason to learn anything new.
awesome.
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hahaha candizzle probably has his buddies 'pre digest' his food i.e. eat it then throw it up. This way it will absorb straight into the blood stream right candizzle? like by pass all digestion. in fact i heard if you inject it into the muscle you skip that whole 'digestion' process and just build mass.
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hahaha candizzle probably has his buddies 'pre digest' his food i.e. eat it then throw it up. This way it will absorb straight into the blood stream right candizzle? like by pass all digestion. in fact i heard if you inject it into the muscle you skip that whole 'digestion' process and just build mass.
are you implying that candidcumgazzler sucks the goo out of other men cocks to get his protein "unalterated"?
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hahaha candizzle probably has his buddies 'pre digest' his food i.e. eat it then throw it up. This way it will absorb straight into the blood stream right candizzle? like by pass all digestion. in fact i heard if you inject it into the muscle you skip that whole 'digestion' process and just build mass.
never ceases to amaze me the stupidity and naivety of some people.
mr candizzie, do you actually believe that a man made laboratory is going to do a better job of digesting and assimilating protein into amino acids than a healthy human digestive system can???
may i suggest that IF it actually could there would be no need for anabolic drugs in the first place. :-\
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
Palumbo isn't very smart when it comes to science, whether it be nutrition or anabolics. I could take virtually any of his posts on his thread on MD forums and point out obvious made up BS. Someone like Layne Norton would have a field day with Palumbo if he wasn't afraid of upsetting him and the rest of MD.
Anyone know if his claim of having been in med school is factual? I kind of doubt it reading his posts.
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if you are dieting there is no better meal than 50 grams egg whites, as much broccoli as you can eat, and 10 grams efa's..(id go with 6 omega-3, 3 omega-6, 1 omega-9.)
is this why you are so MASSIVE?
best try a different approach, cupcake.
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Palumbo isn't very smart when it comes to science, whether it be nutrition or anabolics. I could take virtually any of his posts on his thread on MD forums and point out obvious made up BS. Someone like Layne Norton would have a field day with Palumbo if he wasn't afraid of upsetting him and the rest of MD.
Anyone know if his claim of having been in med school is factual? I kind of doubt it reading his posts.
you seem very knowledgeable Van, are you a competitive bodybuilder ?
seems like you know your shit
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Protein is important, but I don't think that megadoses are needed - but that's just my oppinion.
I eat 100g a day + lot's of olive oil.
p.s.: that's why I'm a tiny tit ;D
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Palumbo knows his shit. I'd trust him.
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you seem very knowledgeable Van, are you a competitive bodybuilder ?
seems like you know your shit
No I'm not a competitor. It's pretty easy to see who knows what they are talking about if you have an interest in these things. I've said it before, I'm sure Palumbo has tons of experience with drugs and diets and that's great and valuable as hell if you need a coach. But I have a problem with the claims that are pulled out of thin air. Especially when it's someone who supposedly went to medical school, learned the scientific method, etc.
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never ceases to amaze me the stupidity and naivety of some people.
mr candizzie, do you actually believe that a man made laboratory is going to do a better job of digesting and assimilating protein into amino acids than a healthy human digestive system can???
may i suggest that IF it actually could there would be no need for anabolic drugs in the first place. :-\
The scary thing is, he actually adopts an aggressive and authoritative tone when posting about various aspects of dieting and nutrition, like he's some sort of expert - except an expert would never assume such a tone. Most of the key / scientific words and terms in his posts are consistently spelt wrong and used in the wrong contexts leading me to believe he doesn't even read properly, let alone comprehend it to a significant extent. He makes statements like, "You know what Insulin is? It's your body telling you that you shouldn't be eating meat because ten million years ago your ancestors were eating plants" and so on - might be acceptable to a bewildered fat, elderly housewife who has no clue about such things, but certainly not here in Getbig where people like you and Van B post.
And it's very obvious to anyone reading the kid's posts that he has ZERO knowledge about the basics of biochemistry and physiology and what have you. His saying pre-digested protein doesn't need to be digested because it's "instantized" is a typical example of the kind of expertise / knowledge he possesses. Watch out if you point it out though - the tough guy is gonna call you a motherf*cker ::)
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The workout shake thing could be useful if you started training first thing in the morning on an empty stomach
I've been trying out the intra workout shakes, along wit pre and post. I have to say I like 'em. The pump I get is ridiculous. I feel I'm recovering a bit better and from the looks in the mirror, I'd have to say I believe in them. Do I think they'll add 20lbs of muscle? Hardly. But I also think you'll hold onto more muscle when dieting and may maintain a fuller look.
... I've never heard of the "8 grams of protein per hour" rule? I would love for Dave to reference the study that showed this.
Me too. 8)
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palumbo is very smart. i look up to him in many areas...mostly knowledge of anabolics. ;D BUT, he is of point on the workout nutrition.
the thing is...bcaa's can be instantized. leuicine can be intsantized. whey is pre digested. all of these will hit the blood stream immideitly. like he said....WHOLE FOODS take long time to digest. shakes are not whole food!
AND there is a huge great deal of science supporting having concentrated amounts of aminos, specifically bcaa's and leucine, during and immidietly post workout.
Just because amino acids hits the bloodstream, doesn't mean it will all be utilized as protein, most of it in any excess is converted to glucose.
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Most of the proteins we eat is burned as calories, most likely you`ll assimilate only 15% and convert the rest to calories. So if you eat 50g protein your body would assimilate 7.5g to 8g. Dipend on the sours of the protein sum will digest as quick as 20 minutes sum longer.
I hope this help.
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
Anyone who believes a thing Palumbo says needs to have a brain examination.....
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The scary thing is, he actually adopts an aggressive and authoritative tone when posting about various aspects of dieting and nutrition, like he's some sort of expert - except an expert would never assume such a tone. Most of the key / scientific words and terms in his posts are consistently spelt wrong and used in the wrong contexts leading me to believe he doesn't even read properly, let alone comprehend it to a significant extent. He makes statements like, "You know what Insulin is? It's your body telling you that you shouldn't be eating meat because ten million years ago your ancestors were eating plants" and so on - might be acceptable to a bewildered fat, elderly housewife who has no clue about such things, but certainly not here in Getbig where people like you and Van B post.
And it's very obvious to anyone reading the kid's posts that he has ZERO knowledge about the basics of biochemistry and physiology and what have you. His saying pre-digested protein doesn't need to be digested because it's "instantized" is a typical example of the kind of expertise / knowledge he possesses. Watch out if you point it out though - the tough guy is gonna call you a motherf*cker ::)
MOTHER FUCKER!!
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okay. so what does that mean? sure...everything has to get absorbed somewhere. but the point is..its PRE DIGESTED..so the digestion process does not have to take place. thus, the wqhole"8 grams every hour" rate lmiting concept is thrown out the window.
Oh cumdrizzle, what is to become of cumdrizzle?
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dave hands down knows his shit if more woul listen to him there would be more in shape guys out there, but when he yells you dont need more then 10mcg of igf everyone laughs or when he says 400mg of test a week is plenty noone listens
yes he made his mistakes but after working with tons of people he knows what works and what dont
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dave hands down knows his shit if more woul listen to him there would be more in shape guys out there, but when he yells you dont need more then 10mcg of igf everyone laughs or when he says 400mg of test a week is plenty noone listens
yes he made his mistakes but after working with tons of people he knows what works and what dont
Iv read where he says anything less than 1000mg a week of test is a waste ???
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
Gaylord Palumbo has being drinking protein straight from the tap, and when he finally sees evidence that he's been wrong through all the years, he can't admit he's been wrong.
Instead tries to backtrack his ass out of it.
Pathetic.
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Gaylord Palumbo has being drinking protein straight from the tap, and when he finally sees evidence that he's been wrong through all the years, he can't admit he's been wrong.
Instead tries to backtrack his ass out of it.
Pathetic.
'1/2 a lb of red meat takes approx 6 hrs...'
that right there was plucked straight from the rectum. he has absolutely and utterly no science whatsoever to back that statement up.
he should start selling supplements. ;D
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What? Truth hurts.... 8)
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'1/2 a lb of red meat takes approx 6 hrs...'
that right there was plucked straight from the rectum. he has absolutely and utterly no science whatsoever to back that statement up.
he should start selling supplements. ;D
He does sell supplements. Whey protein, liver toxic usnic acid, etc.
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Shit im throwing out my Nitrotech ;D
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He does sell supplements. Whey protein, liver toxic usnic acid, etc.
safer to sell fake supplements that fake gear.
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Stupid question.But why was Palumbo covicted of selling Growth when it was just saline and not Growth.
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the bodybuilding world seems to be built on excess
you have average gym "beasts" guzzling supplements pre, intra and post work,right before bed and first thing when waking up.
then you travel to other countries where supplements are out their price range and you see guys walking around with decent builds.
There is no reason why a natty can't get by on 3 meals a day and lifting heavy..anything more is lie from muscletech
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the bodybuilding world seems to be built on excess
you have average gym "beasts" guzzling supplements pre, intra and post work,right before bed and first thing when waking up.
then you travel to other countries where supplements are out their price range and you see guys walking around with decent builds.
There is no reason why a natty can't get by on 3 meals a day and lifting heavy..anything more is lie from muscletech
true, maybe gang bangers in brooklyn should start selling hydrogenized grits and bacon in tubs to pay for their crack and goon juice?
white limp dicks with 12" arms would buy that shit up in kilos.
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Iv read where he says anything less than 1000mg a week of test is a waste ???
no he did not say that and you obviously dont follow his forum nor his mothly Q&A in MD
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What? Truth hurts.... 8)
yeah obviously.
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palbombo is a drug dealer and scammer who is trying hard (same as milos) to pretend he has science backing his bullshit.
they dont know shit, because you can always up the dose.
i never understood why you need gurus. diet? enough protein and a caloric deficit..how difficult is that? fucking easy, specially if your on drugs that let you diet with minimal loss of muscle.
the druggies have fucked up training too.
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'1/2 a lb of red meat takes approx 6 hrs...'
that right there was plucked straight from the rectum. he has absolutely and utterly no science whatsoever to back that statement up.
he should start selling supplements. ;D
Well it is possible to take 6 hr, I will explane how, you cat up 1/2 a lb red meat in 6 little pieces and you eat every hr one piece.
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Well it is possible to take 6 hr, I will explane how, you cat up 1/2 a lb red meat in 6 little pieces and you eat every hr one piece.
haha
that will aid in getting down into the lower intestine a little easier but none of those pieces will be completely digested.
it will take a lot longer after that, perhaps even 24 hrs for some people to completely digest that meat and make it available what it needs to be assimilated into the blood stream. the rest will go to the bowels and urinary tract.
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palbombo is a drug dealer and scammer who is trying hard (same as milos) to pretend he has science backing his bullshit.
they dont know shit, because you can always up the dose.
i never understood why you need gurus. diet? enough protein and a caloric deficit..how difficult is that? fucking easy, specially if your on drugs that let you diet with minimal fatloss.
the druggies have fucked up training too.
That's Exactly right but some bb fans never see it that way.
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testosterone was first isolated and available for use in the early 1930s.
the science team that discovered the method won a nobel prize.
hardly a secret. it was actually considered a great discovery and somewhat of a health tonic. it commenced being used at that time legally as a means to gain weight, for burn victims to heal faster, etc etc.
don't even try to tell me that athletes, soldiers, etc didn't take full advantage of these drugs immediately. it is well documented, for example, that hitler instructed his commanders to disseminate the drug to his troops (along with meth, but that's another subject).
you can basically throw any supposed advancement in natural supplementation and training protocols from that time out the window because how the hell are you supposed to know who was using what and how much. so few actually admitted to it and if there is anything that the human being has proved time and again through the annuls of history, it's that his/her word means nothing.
i remember when people used to swear black and blue that arnold never used steroids. now we would laugh at the suggestion that it was even questioned.
reeves, park, grimek ALL used steroids at some point as far as i'm concerned. they were the best bbers in the world during their respective peaks. of course they fucking did. why the hell wouldn't they. oh hello, i'm going to live and breath bbing and sacrifice every other thing in my life, kill myself in the gym and live like a monk on a diet of tuna and rice cakes but i'm not going to use a 'health tonic'?? get fucking real.
y'all ever notice how every single world champion athlete 'back in the day' lived monastic lives. were considered heroes by their generations. 'save kitty cats from trees', etc etc etc. do the bretheren ever stop to think what characteristics make up a champion? you have to be a self obsessed mutha fucker. kill your own grandmother to get an edge...
anyway, my point is, when you know a guy has done time, is a scam artist and has used/uses every drug know and unknown to man and to the extreme, you don't ask that man advice on how to train and eat naturally. get it? ;)
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haha
that will aid in getting down into the lower intestine a little easier but none of those pieces will be completely digested.
it will take a lot longer after that, perhaps even 24 hrs for some people to completely digest that meat and make it available what it needs to be assimilated into the blood stream. the rest will go to the bowels and urinary tract.
I was joking
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24 hours ?
so you think beef isn't the best choice of protein source then ?
In many U.S supermarkets they put carbon dioxide in meat to keep it red and looking more "fresh" I read that 3 months ago and haven't had red meat since. Chicken, turkey and egg whites for protein since then. This practice has been outlawed in Europe and Canada but it's still legal in the good ole U.S of A
As for the 8 grams of protein per hour theory.... ::)
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palbombo is a drug dealer and scammer who is trying hard (same as milos) to pretend he has science backing his bullshit.
they dont know shit, because you can always up the dose.
i never understood why you need gurus. diet? enough protein and a caloric deficit..how difficult is that? fucking easy, specially if your on drugs that let you diet with minimal fatloss.
the druggies have fucked up training too.
How many times do you eat per day? What do you eat before/after training?
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testosterone was first isolated and available for use in the early 1930s.
the science team that discovered the method won a nobel prize.
hardly a secret. it was actually considered a great discovery and somewhat of a health tonic. it commenced being used at that time legally as a means to gain weight, for burn victims to heal faster, etc etc.
don't even try to tell me that athletes, soldiers, etc didn't take full advantage of these drugs immediately. it is well documented, for example, that hitler instructed his commanders to disseminate the drug to his troops (along with meth, but that's another subject).
you can basically throw any supposed advancement in natural supplementation and training protocols from that time out the window because how the hell are you supposed to know who was using what and how much. so few actually admitted to it and if there is anything that the human being has proved time and again through the annuls of history, it's that his/her word means nothing.
i remember when people used to swear black and blue that arnold never used steroids. now we would laugh at the suggestion that it was even questioned.
reeves, park, grimek ALL used steroids at some point as far as i'm concerned. they were the best bbers in the world during their respective peaks. of course they fucking did. why the hell wouldn't they. oh hello, i'm going to live and breath bbing and sacrifice every other thing in my life, kill myself in the gym and live like a monk on a diet of tuna and rice cakes but i'm not going to use a 'health tonic'?? get fucking real.
y'all ever notice how every single world champion athlete 'back in the day' lived monastic lives. were considered heroes by their generations. 'save kitty cats from trees', etc etc etc. do the bretheren ever stop to think what characteristics make up a champion? you have to be a self obsessed mutha fucker. kill your own grandmother to get an edge...
anyway, my point is, when you know a guy has done time, is a scam artist and has used/uses every drug know and unknown to man and to the extreme, you don't ask that man advice on how to train and eat naturally. get it? ;)
Sad but true.
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whats yoru thoughts on stimulating hypertrophy then? simply lift heavy?
honestly. i would like to know your thoughts on this,.
actually you misunderstood what Dante's methods are. Strength does not = size. Strength increase in a specific rep range=increased muscle size...but that's another thread.
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"I'm not a big fan of taking specific amino acids pre post and intra workouts. When dieting, just space your meals according to your workouts. If you're eating the right amount of protein and fats, you won't lose muscle. Remember, that food protein gets absorbed at 8g protein per hour, therefore, 1/2lb red meat takes about 6 hours to completely assimilate........ that means you'll have a constant trickle of amino acids into the bloodstream during that time."
so anybody only needs 192gr of protein per day ?
seems really low
DAVE SAID THAT 12 YEARS AGO!
Stupid question.But why was Palumbo covicted of selling Growth when it was just saline and not Growth.
WHY DON'T GO OVER TO MD AND ASK THAT!
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DAVE SAID THAT 12 YEARS AGO!
WHY DON'T GO OVER TO MD AND ASK THAT!
no man, he said that in his Q&A thread over at MD in the last few months ;D
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Iv read where he says anything less than 1000mg a week of test is a waste ???
i read MD every month, yes i know its a shit mag but i do it anyway, polumbo has said on numerous occasions that 1000mg of test is needed to stimulate growth. in almost every month someone will write in about steroids and the same answer will come out, 1000mg of test per week with somke deca and some d bol.. now im not an expert but even i know that you can get some great results using less than 1000mg of test...
as for his diet advice i'm not convinced he knows a whole lot if shit. but than again he has mentored some good ppl.. (evan)
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DAMN YOU PEOPLE, you cant rag on candizzle to much b/c then he leaves the thread and I dont get to laugh at his shit anymore...LEAVE HIM ALONE
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ummm..it depends on what foods you eat with the protein and what type of protein. u fucking idiots. everything gets used but the uptake can take hours, just another reason why the eat protein every 3 hours rule is bs.
palbombo doesnt know shit. bodybuilders still live in the dark ages.
So, it's not necessary to immediately consume 20 grams of whey upon waking and before breakfast since your body is in a catabolic state and is breaking down muscle as claimed recently in the various muscle rags?
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So, it's not necessary to immediately consume 20 grams of whey upon waking and before breakfast since your body is in a catabolic state and is breaking down muscle as claimed recently in the various muscle rags?
recently? they been saying that for years.
and no its not necessary to consume whey ever...if you dont want to.
(protein powder can be convenient..but its not necessary if you have no problem eating enough protein from reg solid food)
all you need is enough protein (1g protein/lbs bw/day for a natural) and a surplus of calories (if you wanna grow), spread over the number of meals that suite you and your lifestyle.
personally i like eggs+toast+fruit for breakfast.
come on guys? some of you have been posting on getbig for years and yet you havent learnt anything?
nutrition should be the easy part in bodybuilding.
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