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by Dan Winter with Deborah Louth
from ImplosionGroup Website
Honey carries the codes of the planets as they beam their energy to earth. The flowers, being of the highest vibration of energy in the physical world, carry the codes of the geometry that interlocks with the paths of the stars. The flowers then hold the information, and release it in their pollen and plant nectar..
Then the worker bees of the honey bee kingdom, graciously collect the sacred nectar and pollen which is the food of the worker bees and drones, which becomes the raw material for the queen making royal jelly..
Pollen is the male seed element of the flowers.. which fertilize the plant, and ultimate the honey bee queen.
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Royal jelly, in the sense of Gaia’s lactate, is known as bee’s milk..
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Royal jelly contains the dna and rna, braid of hive memory..
Feeding with sugar water (memory empty: context poor) has been a practice which mysteriously started just before the onset of the world bee destruction arrival of the tracheal mite.
Requeening prevents natural hive reproduction/swarming. Imagine never having the ecstatic rush of the vortex of the swarm dance of the bees, around a free queen. How would your children look if you systematically deprived them of reproductive ecstasy for generations. Eventually, twinkle would be lost and they would fall ill. The DNA must cross in a free fall, so as to catch gravity that way. The DNA must be free in order to learn, in the same way that the character in your dream must be set free in order for you to learn from it. If, instead of killing the queens, we had to catch the new swarm, we would be proving that we could make a home for the hive worth the service provided later by a certain percentage of the sweetness.
Queens were intended to live to the seventh generation, just like Indian memories. Imagine what would have happened to the Indian’s immune system if the tribal council were genetically destroyed every two years, like the beekeepers do to queens?
There is a Sufi myth which says something like From Length is Longing Born. I’ve always fancifully thought this was a nice apology for separateness. As if after the big bang, the little sparks darting about through stubble, were us, imagining ourselves separate, and thus able to have a secret thought. This was a convenient imagination in that it allowed us to experience the way momentum which was continuous, became discontinuous. This is variously known as evil (live/recursion spelled backwards), separateness, wave vs particle, continuum vs quantization, catastrophe theory, energy vs. matter, etc. In essence, it permitted spin in it’s flame like recursion to settle into some of the most dense spin slip knots, with VERY HIGH LEVERAGE. In this sense, we think of spin become recursive (or simply well nested or self embedded) as consciousness, or awareness. Focus spin (image-ine separate), you get little fractals (recursion), and that is conscious self-awareness.
So what does the Sufi saying here mean about creating longing, by creating the illusion of length or separateness?
Yearning or longing in the Gurdjieffian sense, means creating the necessary and desirable force to connect things at a distance. They always said in the Gurdjieff school, that it was good to amp up, or supercharge the batteries of yearning, in order to fire up the universe to bring together things at a distance... things separate. We wrote in our article "Can Intent Steer Waves", about the pine cone, shape of the PINEal gland, which braided light to the super light speed bending time, which was called "PINE-ing" or yearning. We read now in the classic Reptilian style of learn it by eating it, that Pineal glands are the favorite food of the Dracos.
This article was inspired as my friend Deborah and I began studying the disaster (dis-astare: disconnected from stars), of the beekeepers’ practice of killing their queens. We knew that ultimately this was probably the single most awful cause of the death of the entire American bee "industry". The scientist’s scratch their head at the supposed death of the immune strength of virtually every bee hive in the nation, while with their other blind hand they pass laws saying, you beekeepers MUST kill your queens every time your hive burps with ANYTHING even slightly uncomfortable to the... checkbook.
... requeen if you have a failing queen
... call state inspector if you have a failing queen
... requeen if there is a hint of assertiveness in your hive
... requeen if the hive reproduction rate is even slightly inconvenient to your wallet
" In one sense queen producers don’t sell queens, they sell 'traits’ " or their shallow idea of what BEE MEMORY SHOULD BEE...
"A newly arrived queen, fresh from the mailman’s pouch... Alien royalty may not be accepted by your bees. Or she may not be up to the task, not well prepared for the job, and only a drone layer become.." (Discontinuity of memory = weakness to immune identity.)
"THE QUEEN CONTROLS THE HIVE THROUGH PHEROMONES WHILE, HER REPRODUCTIVE MATERIAL ACTS AS THE GENETIC GRAND CENTRAL STATION FOR HER OFFSPRING"
quotes from Buying Queens: What do You Need to Know"
by Walter Clark
Bee Culture Magazine, March 94
Deborah advised me that while beekeepers imagined that the natural state of affairs was that new queens killed old queens in some ritual, THEY REALLY HAVE NO IDEA IF CRITICAL TRIBAL/HIVE MEMORY IS PASSED BETWEENS QUEENS IN THAT RITUAL.
Remember in DUNE, when the dying Reverend Mother queen, passed her memory to her successor? The skulls touched, and sparks of memory inhabited the dream space of the younger queen. After that, all of the life memory of the old queen, flowed in the young.
Now let us look at HIVE life, as if memory of shape was the entire economy of the hive. This is in a sense true, in that the physics of a unified field, is only a memory of shape. If you have only one unified substance, then all economies are only those of shape histories... err rather... her stories.
You (the honey bee) wander off into the fields, you are looking for the folder nectar of what the flower produced. The flower harvest the flower shape of MAGNETISM (called geomancy), and puts that into blossom. If the magnetic long lines of the bioregion, look like a flower, then you get flowers. If the local geomagnetic lines look like a tangled mess, then you get desert, no flower, no nectar, no honey, no memory.
Therefore nectar is literally the best of the FOLDED SURFACE OF THE LAND. (EL-LAND-GUAGE: the language of the land). Sweetness is always only a measure of how efficient/extensive is the BRAIDING. Braid the magnetism of the land well, you get sweetness.
Then you (the honey bee) arrive back at the hive with your harvest of sweetness.. You say to the rest of the hive with the SHAPE of your elegant little dance, turn at the ley line: align with the sun, then there you find nectar.
If tribal memory lines hold up, the shape of the magnetic lines of the land, become the genepool of the queen. The queens DNA, becomes a folded record of how the land lies. Immune system becomes el-land-guage. It wasn’t only Arthur who was one with the land. The grail serves the principle of embeddedness itself: a honeycombed with memory data, stored in a fractal for best compression/braid/sweetness.
Interrupting the continuity of the genetic memory line of the queens DNA, constantly with the practice of replacing queens, ULTIMATELY HAS TO COMPLETELY INTERRUPT THE HIVE MEMORY OF THE SHAPE OF THE LAND. This coded memory of the shape of magnetism, in the long wave is the lands magnetic braid concrescing/converging into nectar.. Immune identity (eye-dent-I-tie), is a her-story of how fold can be coded in a braid on one folded surface. The most fractal recursive folded surface of the hive, after the honey comb itself is the DNA of the queen. It is the ultimate repository for tribal collective memory. The blood line strength of the hive, has to be the queen. So why do we consider the death of hive immune strength after killing the queen, a mystery. We say there is no mystery here, if the queens continue to be sacrificed with no continuity path for their memories, we will have no bees, no honey, no nectar, no plant pollination, no civilization.
In "Myth of the Birth of the Hero", Otto Rank, in the style of Jung, urges us to know why every mythic hero is born without a father, virgin birth. What was the purpose of "concealment of patriarchy"? Was it the source of the seed or the egg that must be hidden? We later learned that most of the virgin birth hero’s, Christ, Moses, etc... were the result of tantric bloodline crosses with extra terrestrials. Kundalini causes virgin births. Mary dreamed of an Angel. Sarah mated with an ET, and gave birth to Joseph (Technicolored Genetic Coat) and Benjamin (Gold).
The key principle that we were missing, was to know that it is simply the charge of lightning spin itself which teases the egg to split. Specifically, in the "Flower of Life" sense, the egg’s membrane, receives spin, decides this spin can fit/phase lock on the flooded surface, so decides to dimple. The geometry of the dimple in the egg, precipitated by seed, is the exquisite path to turning inside out. Ectoderm and Endoderm switch places. The inside becomes the outside, and the outside becomes the inside. This is exactly the electrical geometry of the onset of compassion in the electricity of the heart beat.
We call this onset recursion: birth. The geometry of turning inside out, is a sequence of symmetry operations. Inside out, is pent/hept. Implosion is 5/7 dodec/icos centripedal. Stasis is Hex. Explosion is 7/5 centrifugal.
When Jesus in the Joseph line, seeded Magda of the Benjamin line, the Orion queen blood line survived into the grail/Merovingian, Prior de Sion, Baphomet... The queen’s blood continued. The egg’s of the females of the line contained the whole. The seeds, the males contained the part. Fractionation existed in the males, not the females. This was because the egg born in a woman is born with her mother, with her mother.... (The first cellular woman "Lucy" was tracked by the fractality of the mitochondrial foldedness to Africa, not possible with a male..)
So a memory of foldedness survived in the perfect contained, embedded, fractality of the geometry of perfect egg. If you could visualize the spin path into the egg of your mother, inside her mother, inside her mother.... Then you could remember like a wormhole into a fractal, your reason for being and imagining yourself separate in the first place. This was the key visualization necessary to group/hive memory together in the advanced Merkabbah/ fire breath mediation. Only the pine cone spin path to the zero point, back into the memory fractal could keep your collective dream whole, instead of fractionating into separateness.
So why did the Orion queens in the personage of their assigned priests, work so hard to kill the blood line of the queens, slaughtering the brightest women in Europe during the inquisition? It became apparent that the very magnetic body of star systems, with all the attendant psychokinesis (magic/wicca), was being born in the blood line of the descendant queens. The bird tribe Ophanim were about to give birth. The Orion queens, had authorized only gold mining droids here (Sitchin). A self-replicating Isis/Eve was not authorized. The Orion Queens had ruled the galaxy for millennia with male sex-slaves. Freedom to reproduce here on Earth, could upstage their own power. If the DNA brooding here, got free, their harvest of sweetness here might end. The priests feared the women here on Earth, for the same reason they feared them on Orion.
The Magdalen/Orion Queen/Draco blood was exoskeletal. The Draku meant using magnetism from without to create: technology. The Sirian prince, Ea, Ea-Su, Iesu, Jesus, Aku blood was endoskeletal, using magnetism bent from within to create: emotion.
The blood line cross between them (Holy Blood, Holy Grail), was the outside inside, turning inside out, of those blood lines, into a new container for the incarnation of Ophanic, Time Lord, Angelic Logoi family which conceived the plot in the first place. On the practical side, it meant emotions powerful enough to bend galaxies, would be born, here at the nexus.
Priests who killed queens destroyed a memory path backward, preventing leverage forward in time.
What we do to our bees memory, is such a fractal of what has been done to us.
The arrival of the Draco, is like a Dragon knocking at the base of the spine with Kundalini, for our culture. Will the reptilian brain pour sweetness into the high fractal cortex, feeding the eagle with the wings of vision that soars?
Will the reptilian in us learn to turn inside out, passion into compassion, carving the wormhole soul into the hoary braid of DNA? Or will the sweet memory of the Queens die as uncelebrated as the witches? Leaving the priests to fornicate with children. The flowers with only sting to pollinate them.
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And Again! How bout some side-boob action!
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Someone learned to cut and paste today
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I'll take her over the blond, thats if I had to choose.
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I'll take her over the blond, thats if I had to choose.
Same here.
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I'll take her over the blond, thats if I had to choose.
The blonde is wayyyyy hotter, but it would probably be more fun with the other one!
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The blonde is wayyyyy hotter, but it would probably be more fun with the other one!
No she's not.
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i remenber when Amy started out she didn't do much but a little dicksucking and some girl/girl stuff but now she's doing anal, three guys, DP, swallowing, ATM and all that good stuff. :D
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i remenber when Amy started out she didn't do much but a little dicksucking and some girl/girl stuff but now she's doing anal, three guys, DP, swallowing, ATM and all that good stuff. :D
Yeah, must be some kind of Pierre Woodman that pushed her... What they wouldn't do for money...
Great body, average face.
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how bout this?
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how bout this?
Tranny?
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i'll bet that ass looks incredible judging by the hips.
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Tranny?
Well if thats a tranny then you can call me Shawn Ray, Cuz I'd hit it! Just kidding shawn!
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Well if thats a tranny then you can call me Shawn Ray, Cuz I'd hit it! Just kidding shawn!
It could very well be a male.
If not, penis in butt.
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It could very well be a male.
If not, penis in butt.
Nooooooo way thats a guy with those hips!!!! She is teh hot!!
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this is a nice shot of Amy. :P
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this is a nice shot of Amy. :P
Oh dear god :o
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Oh dear god :o
are you inferring that you'd hit that doggy style until your dick went raw, Wisconsin?
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this is a nice shot of Amy. :P
Yes, her body is fucking amazing.
Her face is so-so sometimes though.
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im nothing special man,.am onley 5'7" _ ben clean for 3 years_183-185 pounds but honestly my legs might be bit smaller but they look better. don kno about the upper body
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would u hit this m8?
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would u hit this m8?
Yes.
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Amy's face is a little different but she's still beautiful, great lips and awesome body.
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are you inferring that you'd hit that doggy style until your dick went raw, Wisconsin?
Thats what i'm telling you mayne!
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im nothing special man,.am onley 5'7" _ ben clean for 3 years_183-185 pounds but honestly my legs might be bit smaller but they look better. don kno about the upper body
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Work on coherent information and energy transfer mechanisms is a new and exciting area for research into the mysteries of self organizing biological systems, and it is the scent coupling of energy from organic molecules to insect dielectric antennae forms in the infrared region that gives great insight into how such coherent systems work. It is imperative that researchers in this field answer criticism from those who are convinced that coherence does not occur at room temperatures in living systems."
"That coherent infrared is available for insect communication systems there is and it is also available in both the visible and infrared portions of the spectrum for utilization in self organizing biological systems, and it is for this reason that my work reinforces other work on coherent energy coupling mechanisms in living systems.
Once this concept of coherent energy coupling in self organizing systems is thoroughly understood, it is predictable that the generation of coherent signals in the UV (virus and membrane dimensions) visible and infrared (cell, organells and insect antennae dimensions) can be utilized to resonate to the biological antenna in order to control disease organisms or reverse cancerous conditions. It might even be possible to resonate to the form of the AIDS virus in the 0.1 mm region, which is the dimension of most virus, and reverse the fatal signals of that small "living" antenna, or to put it in more poetic terms ’find God in little things.’"
Another phenomena which is associated with quantum coherence is superconductivity. The search for a material which will support superconductivity at room temperatures is one of the "Holy Grail" quests of modern physics but there is strong evidence that supercondictivity is already present in biological systems at biological temperatures. In her "Gaia" paper Dr. Ho wrote:
"Recently, technology has progressed to materials which can superconduct at much higher temperatures above absolute zero. The solid-state physicist Herbert Frohlich (1968) in Liverpool was among the first to point out that something like a condensation into a collective mode of activity may be occurring in living systems, such that living organisms are in effect, superconductors working at physiological temperatures. He suggested that much of the metabolic energy, instead of being lost as heat, is actually stored in the form of coherent electromechanical vibrations in the body. He called these collective modes, coherent excitations."
In recent years a number of interesting papers have been published which identify the presence of superconductivity in biological systems (http://www.ortho.lsumc.edu/Faculty/Marino/EL/EL4/References4.html):
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Ginzburg, V.L. 1968. The problem of high temperature superconductivity. Contemp. Physics 9:355.
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Halpern, E.H., and Wolf, A.A. 1972. Speculations of superconductivity in biological and organic systems. Adv. Cryogenic Eng. 17:109.
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Wolf, A.A., and Halpern, E.H. 1976. Experimental high temperature organic superconductivity in the cholates: a summation of results. Physiol. Chem. Phys. 8:31.
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Wolf, A.A. 1976. Experimental evidence for high-temperature organic fractional superconduction of cholates. Physiol. Chem. Phys. 8:495.
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Ahmed, N.A.G., Claderwood, J.H., Frohlich, H., and Smith, C.W. 1975. Evidence for collective magnetic effects in an enzyme. Likelihood of room temperature superconductive regions. Phys. Lett. 53A:129.
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Cope, F.W. 1971. Evidence from activation energies for superconductive tunneling in biological systems at physiological temperatures. Physiol. Chem. Phys. 3:403.
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Cope, F.W. 1978. Discontinuous magnetic field effects (Barkhausen noise) in nucleic acids as evidence for room temperature organic superconduction. Physiol. Chem. Phys. 10:233.
How might quantum coherent communication work in the body? In her book, The Rainbow and the Worm, Mae-Wan Ho wrote:
"The collagenous liquid crystalline mesophases in the connective tissues, with their associated structured water, therefore, constitutes a semi-conducting, highly responsive network that extends throughout the organism. This network is directly linked to the intracellular matrices of individual cells via proteins that go through the cell membrane. The connective tissues and intracellular matrices, together, form a global tensegrity system, as well as an excitable electrical continuum for rapid intercommunication through-out the body."
She suggests that:
"the instantaneous (nonlocal) coordination of body functions is mediated, not by the nervous system, but by the body consciousness inhering in the liquid crystalline continuum of the body. Implicit in this suggestion is the idea that living systems have a special kind of coherence or wholeness, which is characteristic of macroscopic quantum systems."
Later she elaborates further on this:
"I have argued that quantum coherence is the basis of conscious experience, which involves the possibilities of nonlocal inter-communication between distant parts of the brain, the simultaneous recognition of whole and part in our perceptive field, and the distinctive quality of each experienced occasion. All that is beyond the scope of the present discussion. I shall mention just one aspect of (brain) memory here. Many people have already remarked on the holographic nature of brain memory in that it is able to survive large brain lesions.
The possibility, from what has been said above, is that memory is not only delocalized over the entire brain, but over the entire liquid crystalline continuum of the body which serves as a holographic medium. Ervin Laszlo, philosopher and systems theorist, has recently proposed that much of personal memory may be stored in an ambient, collective quantum holographic memory field delocalized from the individual -- in the universal holographic medium of the quantum vacuum -- and that memories are accessed by the brain from the ambient field. This is fully consistent with the ’romantic’ idea, increasingly validated by the foundations of quantum theory, that all nature is interconnected, and that the separateness and discreteness of things in the common sensible world are illusory."
Optical coherence effects also have been observed in microtubules (which are a structure inside cells). An interesting theory about how microtubules might function as a biological computer by collapsing infinite possibilities into a decision was proposed by Roger Penrose (a physicist) and Stuart Hameroff (an anesthesiologist) in their paper titled "Orchestrated Objective Reduction of Quantum Coherence in Brain Microtubules: The "Orch OR" Model for Consciousness":
"A critical number of tubulins maintaining coherence within [microtubules] for 500 msec collapses its own wave function (objective reduction: OR). This occurs because the mass-energy difference among the superpositioned states of coherent tubulins critically perturbs space-time geometry. To prevent multiple universes, the system must reduce to a single space-time by choosing eigenstates."
In another paper (Cytoplasmic Gel States and Ordered Water: Possible Roles in Biological Quantum Coherence) Hameroff suggests that this quantum coherence within the microtubule might be a function of light coherence:
"Here we consider three proposals in which ordered water may play a role in biological quantum coherence essential for living systems and consciousness:
1) quantum optical coherence in microtubule inner cores ("super-radiance" and "self-induced transparency")
2) cellular "vision"
3) isolation of microtubules from environmental decoherence"
So, we see that both optical coherence and superconductivity have been identified within biological systems, but how might the ORMUS elements be responsible for these effects and how might they relate to DNA repair?
The ORMUS elements appear to support both superconductivity and optical coherence at biological temperatures and above. I believe that I have demonstrated superconductive magnetic levitation at room temperature on my kitchen table using ORMUS gold as the superconductor. Watch a short "video" of this demonstration.
I have spoken with Dr. Callahan extensively about the ORMUS elements and we agree that they may be the "mechanism" underlying the coherent coupling phenomena that he describes. Dr. Callahan has demonstrated experimental evidence that coherent coupling phenomena couples living plants to their environment. He postulates that paramagnetic soils are the basis of this coupling phenomena. In his book on this subject "Paramagnetism - Rediscovering Nature’s Secret Force of Growth" he writes:
"Sometime during the decline of the great Tang dynasty (894 AD) the gates to China were closed by Japan and garden geomancy became garden art, an aesthetic undertaking. It had lost its connection to the sun. Placement and shapes were no longer antenna design, but were more in line with the visions of artists who had little knowledge of low-energy force fields. There it stagnates today, endlessly fostered by Eastern and Western practitioners who have not the slightest knowledge of the physics of nature’s low-energy forces. If one thing should be learned from this book, it is that not only do the laws of physics connect chemistry to biology, but they also connect mankind to the sun!"
In this book, Dr. Callahan explains that paramagnetic properties of the soil are taken up into plants where they become diamagnetic but when these plants burn or rot the ash is paramagnetic again. We have noted that the ORMUS materials will change from paramagnetic to diamagnetic depending on their exposure to moving magnetic fields (an example of this transition can be seen in the "video" above) and that they become diamagnetic when they are in water.
Using this principle we have devised "magnetic traps" to magnetically "levitate" the more diamagnetic portion of water so that this portion can be concentrated. Three magnetic trap designs are linked from HERE.
An Australian geologist named Kevin Massman has used one of the magnetic trap designs to extract ORMUS elements from the air. Kevin has also found that dew collected at the time of the full moon has more of these elements in it than dew collected at other times of the month.
A 52 year old woman of our acquaintance who lives in Michigan has been drinking ORMUS water concentrated using a magnetic trap. She has been keeping meticulous notes on her response to the effects of this water. You can read her diary of these effects HERE. So, what might the mechanism of DNA repair by the ORMUS elements be?
Cisplatin and the ORMUS elements
Cancer cells are known to have damaged DNA. Cisplatin is one of the most commonly used cancer chemotherapy drugs. Cisplatin is a DNA damaging agent. It kills rapidly reproducing cells, including cancer cells, by increasing the rate of DNA damage which causes cell mutation sufficient to make cancer cells unable to reproduce.(1) Sometimes cancers will develop a resistance to Cisplatin; the Cisplatin quits working as it is supposed to. The evidence that it has ceased working is that it quits damaging cancer cell DNA and starts repairing it instead. In other words, it looks like Cisplatin can both damage and repair DNA.
Unfortunately Cisplatin does not repair the damaged DNA in cancer cells according to a healthy cell template but rather it repairs the damaged DNA according to the cancer cell template. The ORMUS form of the platinum group elements appears to facilitate the repair of mutated cancer DNA according to a healthy template.
Here is our theory about how this repair might happen
Cisplatin is a small cluster metallic compound of platinum. We believe it is possible to put platinum and the other platinum group elements into a monatomic or diatomic state which is non-metallic and is characterized by the Cooper pairing of the electrons and certain Bosonic behaviors.
In this Cooper paired state the platinum group elements (PGEs) are no longer capable of forming compounds because their electrons are paired and this makes them unavailable as valence electrons. But they are capable of resonance coupling with one another and they may be "involved" with conventional chemistry in a number of ways (for example they are suspected to be powerful catalysts for chemical reactions).
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by Barry Carter
It appears that the key to great physical longevity is the discovery of a method for effecting the repair of DNA. Accumulated damage to the DNA has been called one of the major factors in aging. It is also generally considered to be a major factor in cancer, aids and other degenerative diseases. David Hudson in his lectures and workshops claims that the ORMUS materials have reversed the progress of cancer and other diseases. Hudson suggests that this reversal is the result of the repair of DNA which is facilitated by the ORMUS elements. Here is a quote on this subject from David Hudson’s Portland, Oregon lecture:
"They claimed that it perfects the cells of the body. Well I can show you tomorrow Bristol-Myers-Squib research that shows that this material inter-reacts with DNA, correcting the DNA. All the carcinogenic damage, all the radiation damage, all is corrected from these elements in the presence of the cell. They don’t chemically inter-react with it, they just correct the DNA.
This is not an anti-anything. This is not anti-aids. This is not anti-cancer. This is pro-life. It literally is the spirit. The material is not here to cure aids. The material is not here to cure cancer. The material is here to perfect our bodies. It makes our bodies be in the state they are supposed to be in. It is our own immune system that fights and cures the disease. If you can correct your DNA at every cell in your body. If you can correct the damage that’s been done that brought about the cancer, if you can correct the damage that has been brought about by the virus; the aids you literally will become a perfected being. You will return back to the original healthy state you were meant to be in."
Here is another quote on this subject from Hudson’s Dallas lecture:
"Now what does it do in the body? It literally corrects the DNA, by a process the equivalent of a denaturing solution, the DNA relaxes and recombines corrected. So all diseases that originate with a problem with the DNA can be corrected, but your reason for taking it cannot be to correct a disease. Your reason for taking it has to be a philosophical reason. It has to be to enlighten and to raise the nature of mankind. If in doing that, it happens to cure the diseases, so be it.
And I just saw this. Dan Winter does such a good job of depicting it that I said, oh hell, I’ll just use his slides. It just so happens that Dan Winter said that the nucleus or the DNA interacts with this frequency. So people in music and all this that play all this beautiful music, they say it calms the soul, it does all these things, they say, "Dave, would music effect the DNA itself?" I don’t believe so because, I think, that what you’re trying to effect is in fact a null, and that frequency that you’re trying to generate is in fact a frequency so short that even our nuclear physicists can’t produce the Planck frequency. But that frequency in fact is where everything is and that frequency just happens to interact with the DNA in the cell. It is the God-Force or the Creative Vibration or the energy that is everywhere timeless in the universe and that’s what the electro-magnetic null produces. So what frequency is it? It’s not important. It’s two waves equal and opposite, that’s what’s important. (audience question) It’s actually Dan Winter’s book, it’s a big thick book, but I don’t remember the title of it. It’s Dan Winter’s book and that’s what it’s in. Anyway, next slide.
And here he says, he’s showing the cell again, the inter-reaction of the zero point energy which he shows depicted as the center or literally that the vibrations actually go to null, to nothing and that’s the center. And that’s the frequency inter-reaction of the DNA. That’s one way of picturing it and so I’m using his slide, but that happens to be the frequency that does interact with the DNA, and his terminology here is, lightning-spun up-primal soup- all lightning is unipolar because of the consistent orgone electro-negative. Well he’s talking about this as orgone energy. That I don’t know if I ascribe to, I don’t know if I like his terminology here, but his concept of the electro-magnetic zero point is accurate. I’m not telling you that I believe everything that Dan Winter writes, I’m telling you that this particular part of it is accurate. Next slide. Okay, next slide."
The immune system is also degraded by DNA damage. We suspect that any disease condition which is related to either the immune system or damaged DNA might benefit from ingestion of the ORMUS materials.
A recent Associated Press story talks about the discovery of an "aging gene" named WRN which:
"appears to play a vital role in how DNA repairs itself and reproduces, long suspected as keys to aging"... "Normal WRN appears to govern the production of vital enzymes called helicases."
"DNA carries the body’s genetic blueprint, in double-helix strands coiled inside every cell. Whenever a cell reproduces, the DNA strands first must uncoil so they can be copied accurately for the new cell. Likewise, whenever the body needs to repair a cellular defect, the DNA must unwind so repair enzymes can snip off the defective piece. Helicases make DNA unwind."
"If WRN is mutated, presumably the helicases aren’t uncoiling DNA properly - so cells aren’t reproducing to replace dying ones or DNA damage is not being repaired"
Three recent papers suggest that the platinum group elements can assist in this process of DNA repair:
Platinum Metals Review
1990, Volume 34, Number 4
Biophysical Studies of the Modification of DNA by Antitumour Platinum Coordination Complexes
"The modification of DNA by cisplatin has been examined. Anti-tumour active Pt compounds induce in DNA, at low levels of binding, local conformational alterations which have the character of non-denaturing distortions. These changes in DNA occur due to formation of inter-strand cause links..."
p. 235
Scientific American
May 1995
David Paterson
"The researchers examined the electrical properties of short lengths of double-helix DNA in which there was a ruthenium atom at each end of one of the strands. Meade and Kayyem estimated from earlier studies that a short single strand of DNA ought to conduct up to 100 electrons a second. Imagine their astonishment when they measured the rate of flow along the ruthenium-doped double helix: the current was up by a factor of more than 10,000 times-over a million electrons a second. It was as if the double helix was behaving like a piece of molecular wire."
"For some time, chemists have suspected that the double helix might create a highly conductive path along the axis of the molecule, a route that does not exist in the single strand. Here was confirmation of this idea."
pp. 33-34
Matti Pitkanen, a theoretical quantum physicist in Finland, wrote the following about the third article which appeared in Science magazine:
In the newest Science, vol. 275, 7. March 1997 there was a very interesting article about the work of Barton and her group. Barton et al have done several experiments between 1993-1997 related to the conductivity properties of DNA double helix. The conclusion of Barton et al is that DNA double helix has the ability to do chemistry at distance:
"A DNA molecule with a chemical group artificially tethered to one end appears to mediate a chemical change far down the helix, causing a patch of damaged DNA to be mended.".
DNA as conducting wire instead of insulator
What seems to occur is flow of electron current along DNA with very small resistance. Typically the experiments involve electron donator and acceptor separated by a long distance along DNA. When acceptor is radiated it goes to excited state and an electron current flows from donator to acceptor as a consequence. Standard wisdom tells that this should not be possible. The current should flow by quantum tunneling between adjacent building units of DNA and it should diminish exponentially with distance. For proteins this is known to be the case. In experiments however no distance dependence was observed.
There exist a theory which assumes that the current could flow along the interior of double DNA, that is the region between the bases of strand and complementary strand. The electron would be delocalized in bases rings these rings would form a stack along DNA. The current would flow by tunneling also now but the tunneling probability would be so large that distance dependence would be weak. The critics of Barton argue that this model cannot explain all the experiments of Barton and that the model is not in accordance with basic organic chemistry and biology: ordinary sun light should have rather drastic effects on us. Barton admits that they do not understand the mechanism.
TGD-based explanation in terms of exotic atom concept
TGD suggests a possible explanation of phenomenon in terms of closely related concepts of exotic atom and charged wormhole. The concept of exotic atom in turn relies on the concept of many sheeted spacetime. Exotic atom is formed when one or more outer valence electrons of ordinary atom are dropped from atomic spacetime sheet to a ’larger’ spacetime sheet, now spacetime sheet with a form of DNA helix. As a consequence, charged wormholes feeding the em gauge flux to the larger spacetime sheet are also generated. Electrons in larger spacetime sheet could be delocalized and this could lead to a smaller ground state energy. What is important is that the electrons on the larger spacetime sheet move effectively in empty spacetime and therefore electric current can flow freely without resistance.
Charged wormholes could provide also a mechanism of superconductivity: photons are replaced with the excitations of wormhole BE condensate in this mechanism. It is however too early to say whether super conductivity is really in question and even whether this superconductivity mechanism really works.
In the experimental arrangements of Barton typically donors and acceptors of electrons are Rh and Ru atoms. Both have 5s unpaired electron and this electron would drop on the larger spacetime sheet from the atomic spacetime sheet and induce electric current. Some colleagues of Barton did not observe the effect when using organic molecules as donors. A possible explanation is that these molecules are such that their valence electrons cannot drop on lower spacetime sheet (it is not energetically favourable, they could be paired, for instance).
Additional references to papers by Dr. Jacqueline Barton can be found on physicist Tony Smith’s web page (Tony Smith goes into additional technical discussion on many of the issues raised in this article.)
From these three papers, it should be clear that the repair of DNA may be linked to the presence of the platinum group elements.
David Hudson claims that he has provided ORMUS materials to various medical doctors who have given them to patients with cancer. According to Hudson, in the great majority of these cases the cancer patients have recovered with indications that the cancer tissue reverted to normal tissue. Hudson reports that the tumors at first appeared to grow because cancer tissue is more dense than normal tissue. Since the cancer was becoming normal tissue, as it became less dense it would expand.
In his Ashland, Oregon lecture Hudson said:
"First of all, if you use the rhodium and iridium, one of the things you can see is that in the first 3 to 4 weeks the tumor actually appears to grow faster. So if you have taken a biopsy, and found that you have a tumor, if you take the rhodium and iridium, in the first 3 to 4 weeks the magnetic resonance imaging will show it’s growing faster, which really scares people. They say ’God, that’s not what I want’. What you have to understand is, that the dense cancer tissue, when the tissue is converted to healthy tissue, it enlarges in size. And so if the physical tumor is this large (gesture), when it’s cured will be this large (gesture). It actually gets larger because it’s going to healthy tissue. It’s called necrosis in the medical community. Its the opening up of the tumor, okay, and the going to normal. After 60 days you do a biopsy on the tumor and its no longer cancer. Its a benign tumor. The doctors who surgically remove the tumor say ’Gosh, it looks like cancer, looks like it ought to be cancer, it was cancer 60 days ago; its just not cancer now... I don’t know what to explain.’ Well, that’s okay. It takes about a year and a half for all this mass of tumor to dissolve away.
So... if you have a cancer in the brain, if you have a brain tumor, my advice is to stay away from this. And the reason for it is there seems to be a growth. And that’s a problem when you have a brain tumor because your brain is encapsulated in a skull, which has a limited amount of room. And so I advise people, you can have surgically implanted a radioactive iridium pellet -which you don’t have to have radioactive, you can put the [non-radioactive] iridium and it goes away too, but they make it radioactive so that standard science can accept that this is why its going away; I thought ’That’s stupid’ when I read that. Anyway then, implant this pellet in the tumor, and the tumor shrinks down to the point that they can surgically remove it, without hurting the brain. Then they actually take the tumor out and they take the pellet out also. Then you can take the material. Okay? But my advice to you is to be careful in dealing with brain tumors, because you do have a space limitation here."
Hudson says that he provided ORMUS materials to the National Institute of Health for in-vitro studies. Here the results were no less stunning but appeared to provide conflicting results. Most of the cancer tissue cultures did not show reversion of the cancer tissue to normal tissue but rather showed that the cancer just became more healthy. Here is an excerpt from Hudson’s July/August, 1996 newsletter:
Now to RESEARCH:
The National Institute of Health has performed cancer cell testing. Six kinds of tests were performed on leukemia with no direct intereaction with rhodium. Nine types of non-small cell lung cancer were tested with direct retardation of only one type of cell by the rhodium. That was NCl-H23. There were seven varieties of colon cancer tested with no intereaction with the rhodium. There were six varieties of CNS cancer with no direct intereaction.
There were eight varieties of Irialanoma with one variety referred to as the LOX IMVI, showing a dramatic reduction of growth in the presence of rhodium. The LOX INVI cancer cells are a melanoma form of cancer.
There were six varieties of ovarian cancer, six varieties of renal cancer, two varieties of prostate cancer, eight varieties of breast cancer, none of which showed any direct intereaction with the rhodium. There was MD MID tests performed on Delta and also on the Range showing dramatic reduction in cancer activity.
Members should be clear that this was not a study on human patients. It did not measure any reaction with the thymus or other organs in the body. The tests did not measure increases in white blood cells, T-cells, etc. it was simply a test of the direct intereaction of one ORME (rhodium) in a cell culture.
Additional studies were conducted in New York on PC3 independent prostate cancer cells. At two, four and ten micrograms per milliliter the rhodium ORME promoted DNA synthesis (measured by the thymidine incorporation), stimulated cell growth and cell looked better than usual. Thus rhodium ORME is not toxic, but in fact seems to make the cancer cells more vigorous and robust and clearly does not retard PC3 cancer cells.
Similar results occurred with mink lung epithelial cells. Incorporation of tritiated thymidine increased from 7000 cpm to 20,000 cpm.
In PC3 cells, rhodium ORME caused cytokine, mRNA and peptide levels to fall. This correlates with the increased growth rates in these cells, since this cytokine is known to inhibit cell growth. It also is known to increase in inflammatory conditions, therefore it is possible that the decrease in the cytokine caused by the rhodium ORME could reduce inflammation.
At the university of Illinois, the rhodium ORME was tested in cytotoxicity tests using eight different cell lines. None showed toxicity at levels as high as twenty micrograms per milliliter. This shows that rhodium ORME is not toxic. Clearly Rhodium ORME does not act on cancer cells by killing them, but many other mechanisms which are not considered normal in cancer research are now being investigated.
In Summary:
Rhodium ORME is clearly not toxic, even at very high concentration. Thus its anti-cancer action can not be via a cancer cell-killing mechanism.
Its effects on growth of cancer cells is cell type specific. It inhibits growth of liver cancer cell lines and the prostate line H23, but not the growth of other cell types. It actually stimulates the growth of PC3 cells and mink lung epithelial cells.
It inhibits the production of cytokine in PC3 cell and mink lung epithelial cells, which suggests the rhodium ORME may have anti-inflammatory activity.
The implications of this discrepancy need to be examined. If, with exposure to the ORMUS elements, cancer cells revert to normal cells in the body but do not do so in the petri dish then there must be some factor, which promotes this reversion, that is present in (or around) the body and that is not present in a petri dish .
A gentleman named Gary, who describes himself as a "kundalini awakened American engineer" wrote the following explanation for his theory about a mechanism for DNA repair in the body:
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Ok, time to step up my game >:(
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holy shit Monster who is that girl? :o
don kno man ,but i would give my right ball for her ;)
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Thank you guise, thread saved!
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puppetsock searching the boards desperatly lookin' for clues,,,,,hahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
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how bout this?
GAWD DAMN!!!!! that's what I'm talking about!!... way to save the thread guys!
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:P
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was google just introduced in Romania?
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That's Vanessa Zotth. ;D
(http://static.flickr.com/154/391704433_53e2d88cfa_o.jpg)
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That's Vanessa Zotth. ;D
(http://static.flickr.com/154/391704433_53e2d88cfa_o.jpg)
My penis in her vagina.
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dumb c*nt
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Ok, time to step up my game >:(
I think i've watched to much porn because I've seen this video and know who the girl on the bottom is :-\
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(http://www.thumbparty.com/fgr/carmella_bing06/smoke_tease001.jpg)
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(http://www.thumbparty.com/fgr/carmella_bing06/smoke_tease001.jpg)
no
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i love this girl!!!
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no
hahahaha, another fagg, Carmella is incredible.
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hahahaha, another fagg, Carmella is incredible.
Definetly a fav of mine.she's all woman in a good way.
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Definetly a fav of mine.she's all woman in a good way.
Ghetto booty!! ;)
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Definetly a fav of mine.she's all woman in a good way.
shit we better watch out Cal, here's where all the getbig shredded male models come out of the woodwork to say how fat she is and how she's ugly because she doesn't have an 8 pack and veins in her shoulders, whatever shall we do? ::)
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I'd hold hands with her in the mall!
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I'd hold hands with her in the mall!
i could cum just giving her a massage.
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i could cum just giving her a massage.
Is that physically possible?
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shit we better watch out Cal, here's where all the getbig shredded male models come out of the woodwork to say how fat she is and how she's ugly because she doesn't have an 8 pack and veins in her shoulders, whatever shall we do? ::)
Hahaha,fuck em.
let em keep their anorexic,skinny bitches.I'll take me some Carmella any day of the week ;D
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Is that physically possible?
with her absofucckinlutely. :D
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no
you wouldn't last three seconds with her. ::)
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hahahaha, another fagg, Carmella is incredible.
Better without that shit in her hands. Too bad she has a flat ass, and creepy fingernails.
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I'd hold hands with her in the mall!
Hahaha ;D
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Better without that shit in her hands. Too bad she has a flat ass, and creepy fingernails.
yes her ass is extremely flat here. ::)
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yes her ass is extremely flat here. ::)
Yes, especially on this picture.
Sorry for being repulsed by women who smoke btw :-*
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Yes, especially on this picture.
Sorry for being repulsed by women who smoke btw :-*
Agreed, that shit is a huge turnoff to me. It wouldnt prevent me from breeding with her though.
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Agreed, that shit is a huge turnoff to me. It wouldnt prevent me from breeding with her though.
Never said that I wouldn't hit it for fun one night, but that habit is a huge turnoff for me.
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this ass is m8's type
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this ass is m8's type
That's more like it. Who doesn't love a huge bubble ass?
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som mor
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som mor
Who is that person?
Imagine your penis stuck in that thing :o :o
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Who is that person?
don kon man ,,but shes smokin hot. i give her 10 out of 10
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this ass is m8's type
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204713.0;attach=238810;image)
(http://masklinnscans.free.fr/4chan/moar.jpg)
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Better without that shit in her hands. Too bad she has a flat ass, and creepy fingernails.
Come m8 you have to admit that's pretty gay. I didn't even notice she had fingernails til this comment.