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PBW: Iris Kyle Responds to Arnold Controversy (Replay Now)
Ms. Olympia Champ Makes PBW Debut!
"Pro Bodybuilding Weekly" welcomes one of the most decorated female bodybuilding champions of all time when reigning Ms. Olympia and 3-time Ms. International Iris Kyle visits PBW following her controversial appearance last weekend in Columbus. Relegated by the judges to 7th place, Iris discusses the events surrounding bodybuilding's latest controversy. This weeks broadcast also includes a full report from Melbourne, Australia following the 2008 Australian Pro Grand Prix event. -- This week's "Pep Talk" segment features Larry's conversation with IFBB Head Women's Judge Sandy Williamson. The voice of pro bodybuilding is presented by MuscleTech on Mondays at 8pm ET.
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This should be interesting to hear Bob and Iris discuss where Bob felt she should have placed.
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I bet things get a little testy. Bob didn't pull any punches on her.
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This should be interesting to hear Bob and Iris discuss where Bob felt she should have placed.
LOL sound bites are double-edge swords
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We need Bob to take this fight.
He's our hope against anomalities! 8)
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We need Bob to take this fight.
This will be a test for Bob. Will they ask her to say what caused those funky bumps?
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Bob didn't pull any punches on her.
But if it was anybody else, say Yaxeni, Denise Masino, Melissa Dettweiler or whoever else appearing on any stage, he would say the same thing about the funky lumps too.
It wasn't JUST Iris, out of spite for her.
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Should be interesting. Don't hold back Bob.
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Bob has a habit of changing history with regards to any strong criticisms made by him.
eg -
Bob "Troy alves is too old and should retire"
with Troy was on the show
Bob "all you need to do is find a formula that works"
if all troy needs to do is find a formula, then how is he too old?
bob will probably back down again with Iris.
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the suspicious shoulder
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finally!!!
ive been waiting for years for her to come on the show !!!
thank you guys!
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bob dont puss out, tell her exactly how u feel about her physique and her placing.
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it was the abscess looking bumps on her ass, not the delts.
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it was the abscess looking bumps on her ass, not the delts.
It was on both delts and both buttocks.
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Shit...Bob is the biggest pussy & will side step things in the most delicate mannor
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It was on both delts and both buttocks.
ok lift (nice meeting you via Ron at the v.i.p. party) i know you had a closer view ;D we in the audience saw the glute problems. i heard it was "bad winstrol" shots.
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This could be explosive.
From her MD videos, Iris seems pretty tough and no nonsense, and if Bob defends his statements and challenges her, you could have a very exciting broadcast like none other on PBW.
I don't think you've had any controversy on the show since Titus and Ryan were on.
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on PBW right now...
Props to her for calling in. most would hide after such a controversy. Interesting voice!
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IRIS KYLE:
the reason these bumps existed...
could be several reasons.
injectable shot.
could be any number of things.
not necessary to even address that.
These things take place at this elite level.
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More gems...
"I should have come in first place."
"No man would have been marked down the way I have."
"No one in the audience noticed the bumps."
"I set the standard."
"I felt like I was judged, like, they didn't know what they was doing." (the judges)
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Just tuned in a little to this shit for the first time.
You mean you don't find her voice super-sexy, 240? ::)
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"No man would have been marked down the way I have."
Here we go.
Funny thing, though, is that she doesn't have 1% of feminity left in her.
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i swear.... this girls sounds IDENTICAL to Chris Tucker.
"Got-Damnnnnnn the judges done ripped me off!"
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she's thanking the gay community for sticking to their guns.
'now they have their own thing going'.
;D
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She gets many emails telling her that she's a goddess.
She offerred to mail them to Bob Chick to prove it.
Is Iris Kyle really a goddess?
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she sounds like an idiot
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Is sevestase heterosexual?
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Is sevestase heterosexual?
hahahaha see what he did thar?
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oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
she says the top 5 winners at the female O shouild get free magazine subscriptions.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
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A very heavy drug abusing Goddess. ::)
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she wants everything males have in the business but brings 2% of the industry to the table
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oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
she says the top 5 winners at the female O shouild get free magazine subscriptions.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
thats worth more than the prize money they get.
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she wants everything males have in the business but brings 2% of the industry to the table
LOL.... "That don't matter none.... we all in the same sport... we should split the loot, fiddy/fiddy".
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She may be a goddess but she isn't hot or attractive to the vast majority of men. I respect her for her awesome muscle mass and as a fellow bodybuilder (yeah, I guess I am a bodybuilder :)), but c'mon Iris!!!!! if the idea was somehow portray yourself a hot, sex symbol for guys you are only fooling yourself. Stop being delusional...at least to this degree! :)
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LOL.... "That don't matter none.... we all in the same sport... we should split the loot, fiddy/fiddy".
"Baby phat jeans, acrylic nails, weaves and sex change operations don't pay for themselves sugar."
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& her wig makes her look "feminine"
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Why is she even getting airplay?
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Promethea?
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As many of you now know the current 3x Ms Olympia Iris Kyle, was put in a low 7th place at the recent Ms International at the Arnold Classic.The most obvious reason for this was said to be some odd looking bumps on her butt cheek and delts. Obviously we know this was due to inflamation from injecting some compound into these areas. From the interview tonight where Iris spoke with Pro BB radio's Bob Chic and Dan Soloman, I learned the following info:
Iris said she was unable to get an actual, reasonable explanation for her low placing out of the money.
She also said, she was unable to get in contact with any IFBB pro judge or official and has not heard anything concrete or statement from the IFBB brass. She was not disqualified , allowed to compete but was not placed in the money spots and top 6. Iris was pretty candid about why the bumps were there and was surprised this was even an issue, comsidering what is "common knowlege" about what stuff pros take before a show. IFBB pro judge Sandy Rinalli is now talking on Pep talk and I will listen and add to the this thread.
My 2 cents so far: I suspect the IFBB judges were horrified to see such obvious injection sites on Iris on stage at a major contest. To disqualify her, would mean that the IFBB pro div would have to enforce the rules against banned substances. This is one can of worms they don't want to open for obvious reasons.
Thus, they can't make any official statements about "the bumps" on Iris.They simply sent a "message" by putting her our the money.
This makes me wonder about just how long this kind of "don't ask- don't tell" drug policy can survive in pro bodybuilding considering the anit sertoid climate in the media now.
More after the Judge Rinalli interview...
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I don't think she sounded especially unintelligent. It's just that these female bodybuilder chicks lead a strange lifestyle. Whatever makes them happy. :-\
I will say that the top competitors should be treated well, just like the men. Help the top women get sponsorships, or at least catered food at events. If the IFBB wants to treat them like shit, why don't they just save everyone's time and get rid of that side of the "sport" completely?
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I can't you people can sit through "internet radio" interviews. Incredibly boring.
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Why do you need your own thread for this, Howie. There's already 3 or 4 others.
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The Iris bumps topic just came up. Judge Rimalli called them "distortions" and Larry Pepe made an inference about synthol and injections and Judge Rinalli didn't even go down that road. She compared the bumps to a bad tatoo and said it was judged down as it threw off her overall "symmetry".
Judge Sandy Rinalli sounds like a very intelligent, and has a wealth of knowledge about bodybuilding.
It is obvious, she is doing whatever she can to avoid any open dialoque about drugs in bodybuilding.
I am not sure what the best path is in regards to bodybuilding drug use. BUT, I am certain that the current "denial" and refusal to address the problem by the IFBB may end up with a hard rain falling.
Howard
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Good take Howie.
I just don't she 'gets' the lack of interest the women bbr's are getting by the general public.
Bob tried explaining it to her that the 80's had more public awareness & why.
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Why do you need your own thread for this, Howie. There's already 3 or 4 others.
I wanted to focus on the obvious drug related issue of the bumps and why the IFBB won't address it.
Many of the threads and posts about Iris are not very serious and focus on some lame thing said rather than the real key issue at hand here.
Bob Chic did what her could to remain polite with Iris and still try to veer her to consider having woman pros scale back to a more feminine look and make $$, draw crowds.
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Good take Howie.
I just don't she 'gets' the lack of interest the women bbr's are getting by the general public.
Bob tried explaining it to her that the 80's had more public awareness & why.
Thanks and to be honest I think this Iris placed low with the bumps issue is going to be a headache overall.
I am no lawyer but I do know that pro bodybuilder can't drug test the female bodybuilders and avoid testing the men. The most practial thing to do is to convinve the female pro bodybuilders to scale back, but as iris said, when they do that, they end up looking more like figure girls, hmmmmmm.
The obvious issue, is that the female pro bodybuilders physiue scream roids when they appear on stage.
The men are just as obvious however, but in the end this is a double standard that may make sense...who knows?
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Bob Chic did what her could to remain polite with Iris and still try to veer her to consider having woman pros scale back to a more feminine look and make $$, draw crowds.
Problem is, that's not up to Iris. She's working with what's being rewarded. If you're still listening, I hope Sandi what's-her-name addresses why they reward big, freaky women's physiques. It's Sandi and her fellow judges that have the power to change the "sport".
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Problem is, that's not up to Iris. She's working with what's being rewarded. If you're still listening, I hope Sandi what's-her-name addresses why they reward big, freaky women's physiques. It's Sandi and her fellow judges that have the power to change the "sport".
She has moved on to figure and fitness. I could be wrong but I get the impression, that the IFBB pro div would like to end female pro bodybuilding and just have figure take it's place.The fitness is separate due the routine.
I am not hearing any objective criteria used to determine fitness winners, Judge Rinalli is useing a lot of general terms like "stage presence" and various vague terms, criteria.
I have been around the sport of bodybuilding for over 3 decades now. I have been a judge myself for many years.
Yes, their is basic standard we all try to follow but it is hardly fixed in stone. Some bodybuilder or fitness babe comes in shape, has a good overall look , gets a buzz going when on stage and the show goes their way.
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No one gives a shit.
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No one gives a shit.
Geeeeeeeeeeeesh, you are really missing the pt here. It is not simply aboiut iris Kyle or even female bodybuilding! This is about the current don't ask don't tell drug policy within the IFBB pro div. c'mon think!
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My conclusion is that pro bodybuilding will have to have some drastic legal action taken before they get it together and actually deal with the drug issue. I sincerely hope that the IFBB can put in some preventable measures to avoid this. They have a lot of intelligent minds and could do something practical if they had the collective will. I have been a bodybuilder for over 30 years and am prpud to say it is by far my favorite sport . I am major fan and at a pt in my life where I can afford to attend pro events and enjoy them.
I simply want to see a good show , buy my ticket and meet some pros at events, etc.
I could care less what they do to get ready , but now fear some trouble may be headed our way and I hope I am wrong...who knows.
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I can't you people can sit through "internet radio" interviews. Incredibly boring.
Then why are YOU listening? ::)
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She has moved on to figure and fitness. I could be wrong but I get the impression, that the IFBB pro div would like to end female pro bodybuilding and just have figure take it's place.The fitness is separate due the routine.
I am not hearing any objective criteria used to determine fitness winners, Judge Rinalli is useing a lot of general terms like "stage presence" and various vague terms, criteria.
I have been around the sport of bodybuilding for over 3 decades now. I have been a judge myself for many years.
Yes, their is basic standard we all try to follow but it is hardly fixed in stone. Some bodybuilder or fitness babe comes in shape, has a good overall look , gets a buzz going when on stage and the show goes their way.
Dude, "fitness and figure" is about POLITICS...hence the vague criteria. It's who's blowing who, who has the right "trainer" or the right "management". It's all a bunch of bullshit.
If they want to get rid of women's bodybuilding, they should do so. Nobody's stopping them. The problem for them is that without bodybuilding, fitness and figure are diminished. Bodybuilding and the "hardcore" physiques are the foundation and where the most rabid shmoes/fans of the women's side of the industry are based.
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Then why are YOU listening? ::)
LOL, good zinger. Look, I am damn near 50 yrs old and feel like a young buck just starting my bodybuilding days when I listen in each MON night at 8 pm. It is fun and if you are true fan of bodybuilding you love the sport and finding out about it. If bodybuilding bores ya, you are not a fan, pretty simple.
Howard
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Dude, "fitness and figure" is about POLITICS...hence the vague criteria. It's who's blowing who, who has the right "trainer" or the right "management". It's all a bunch of bullshit.
If they want to get rid of women's bodybuilding, they should do so. Nobody's stopping them. The problem for them is that without bodybuilding, fitness and figure are diminished. Bodybuilding and the "hardcore" physiques are the foundation and where the most rabid shmoes/fans of the women's side of the industry are based.
Hmmm, some good food for thought in your post here.
I am sure that some of that stuff makes a difference. BUT, as an actual NPC jdge for many years, I can tell you that it is not some backroom conspiracy based on who knows who, etc.
It is more about who has the best ideal "look" and yes "sex appeal" on stage that day.
Sometimes agirl gets a buzz going around her and she seems to get more attention, etc.
Some of you make this judging thing way more "political" and complicated than it actually is, trust me.
I used to judge the old AAU Mr Ms America as well.
Judging is not science with this clear, precise standard. It is also an art and subjective. We do the best we can to pick the best physique we observe on stage that day, no more, no less.
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Oh , just one more thing. NPC pres Jim Manion had the right idea years ago when he started the drug tested Team Universe along with the NON tested reg national shows.
This along with fitness, figure , masters, novice and teen allows for EVERY man or woman to compete in a show suited for them all the way from local to national level.
The sad thing is that congress is now involved along with a steroid crazed media .
I sincerely do wish that drugs in bodybuilding could be left up to the individual and the Government would just leave us all alone on this topic.
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EVERY female pro bodybuilder uses steroids and they decide to single her out? ???
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Hmmm, some good food for thought in your post here.
I am sure that some of that stuff makes a difference. BUT, as an actual NPC jdge for many years, I can tell you that it is not some backroom conspiracy based on who knows who, etc.
It is more about who has the best ideal "look" and yes "sex appeal" on stage that day.
Sometimes agirl gets a buzz going around her and she seems to get more attention, etc.
Some of you make this judging thing way more "political" and complicated than it actually is, trust me.
Bullshit. There is a reason "Oddo's Angels", Mike Davies' trained girls, and those under Manion Jr. Management consistently win shows. P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S, baby. Everyone knows this.
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More gems...
"I should have come in first place."
"No man would have been marked down the way I have."
"No one in the audience noticed the bumps."
"I set the standard."
"I felt like I was judged, like, they didn't know what they was doing." (the judges)
um thats not true, this figure chick i was hanging out with ;) went to that show and said she could see a huge white boil on her ass check, and she was grossed out by it! And people in the crowd were in shock that she even went on stage with that on her ass cheek.
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oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
she says the top 5 winners at the female O shouild get free magazine subscriptions.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
Well it would be a step up from the current prive money ;D
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Iris is hardcore. I give her credit for not being another one of those wannabe feminine types. She's just straight up HARDCORE! Iris was keepin it real 8)
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um thats not true, this figure chick i was hanging out with ;) went to that show and said she could see a huge white boil on her ass check, and she was grossed out by it! And people in the crowd were in shock that she even went on stage with that on her ass cheek.
Pics or it didn't happen, and I'm not talking about Iris Kyle's ass.
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If they want to get rid of women's bodybuilding, they should do so. Nobody's stopping them. The problem for them is that without bodybuilding, fitness and figure are diminished. Bodybuilding and the "hardcore" physiques are the foundation and where the most rabid shmoes/fans of the women's side of the industry are based.
Very true, women's bodybuilding is still the foundation. If you go to the women's pre-judging at the Arnold and Olympia, the bodybuilders get the biggest cheer (more than fitness or figure). With no magazine exposure and only 5 shows/year, they are on life support. One thing I'd like to see is to take women's pre-judging off the expo stage and put it in the auditorium (like Wayne did a few years back, holding women's pre-judging directly following the press conference). At least that helps raise the bar on professionalism.
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this is women's bodybuilding
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& her wig makes her look "feminine"
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Iris Kyle: she's one inspiring man.
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Bullshit. There is a reason "Oddo's Angels", Mike Davies' trained girls, and those under Manion Jr. Management consistently win shows. P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S, baby. Everyone knows this.
Are you a judge? I am and have been judging shows for YEARS now.
The "politics" word is one that cracks me up. Why? As a judge we do VOTE for the winners and wehre someone places, so of course it is poltics in terms of voting for a winner. In the NPC the scores are the judges placements and the low score wins, pure and simple. There are no individual score points for better calfs or quads, etc.
The more popular girls under various management contracts already have the better "look" or they would never get a contract. There is no back room conspiracy before each show, trust me.
If you have actual prood , shows are fixed, then please give the actual hard evidence.
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Are you a judge? I am and have been judging shows for YEARS now.
The "politics" word is one that cracks me up. Why? As a judge we do VOTE for the winners and wehre someone places, so of course it is poltics in terms of voting for a winner. In the NPC the scores are the judges placements and the low score wins, pure and simple. There are no individual score points for better calfs or quads, etc.
The more popular girls under various management contracts already have the better "look" or they would never get a contract. There is no back room conspiracy before each show, trust me.
If you have actual prood , shows are fixed, then please give the actual hard evidence.
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Thanks again for the proof of fixed shows and crooked judges.
Seriously, why is it soooooooooooo many worry about the judges being crooked , when the real issue is how none of the bodybuilders follow the actual rules on drugs/banned sustances and the officials ignore it.
I mean c'mon it is like showing up at a ping pong match with a tennis racket and everyone says, " yeah it is kinda crazy playing table tennis with that big a racket, but look at how fast it hits the ball and how massive it looks". LOL
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Is this where female bodybuilding has gone? Long gone are the days of Corey.. what a shame. When was the last time any of us opened a magazine and saw the picture of a top womans ifbb pro? I sure cant remember... :-\