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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Julio Ceasar on March 08, 2008, 03:43:04 PM
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This is ridiculous!!!!!!
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any more synthol and he'll be into Ernie Taylor territory.
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any more synthol and he'll be into Ernie Taylor territory.
No kidding.
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You are CORRECT, thickest arms of all time?
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There aint no oil in them arms! Oh No there isn't.
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DAMN :o
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easy to see why dex won from that pic, his coditioning is miles ahead of heath!
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They're insane, a mix between Levrone's and Wheeler's.
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It's amazing to see arms that monstrous with so much detail. The guy is a freak.
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easy to see why dex won from that pic, his coditioning is miles ahead of heath!
miles ahead huh ::)
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they're definetly out of control :o
(http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta1/gangsta%201.JPG)
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any more synthol and he'll be into Ernie Taylor territory.
There is not a drop present ::)
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they're definetly out of control :o
(http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta1/gangsta%201.JPG)
small waist on that fella
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This is ridiculous!!!!!!
Dex deserves the win simply because Heath goes the oil.....he's just gone down a notch in my eyes.....cop-out arms!
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There is not a drop present ::)
Really, how would one know for sure if there is or isn't?
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Freakiest arms on the planet when it some to hittin a front MM or a similar pose. Not as impressed when he is doing a front DB but still awesome.
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guy has freaky arms..but he is too narrow to be mr olympia.
narrow combined with too small chest.
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Really, how would one know for sure if there is or isn't?
Point out where the synthol is. If you cannot, your claim has as much basis as me claiming your mother uses synthol ::)
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way too big for his body
he would've been as competitive as charles clairmont in the 90's
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guy has freaky arms..but he is too narrow to be mr olympia.
narrow combined with too small chest.
Bingo! Plus his stomach is growing along with everything else.
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way too big for his body
he would've been as competitive as charles clairmont in the 90's
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charles clairmonte was better than yates.
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Point out where the synthol is.
His arms are a reminisce of Flex Wheeler's. Flex used synthol, and that's how it's broken down. ;D
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His arms are a reminisce of Flex Wheeler's. Flex used synthol, and that's how it's broken down. ;D
LOL, flawless getbig reasoning ;D
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His arms are a reminisce of Flex Wheeler's. Flex used synthol, and that's how it's broken down. ;D
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His arms don't look like they have a trace of oil in them.
Of course these days nothing is for certain.
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His arms don't look like they have a trace of oil in them.
Of course these days nothing is for certain.
Usually synthol is visible in the front double biceps. This certainly does not apply to Heath. Nowhere does it appear. The man is clean.
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Point out where the synthol is. If you cannot, your claim has as much basis as me claiming your mother uses synthol ::)
Er..in his arms. You're asking for signs of synthol abuse. They don't all use it to get nasty Nasser-like comedy lumps and bumps. That's what happens when you fuck it up. When used effectively it can enhance the bodypart.
I am saying that I think he has used synthol, like a very high percentage of these guys - they inject everything else..why not a bit of 'pump and pose' ? My claim has far more basis than you claiming that my mother uses synthol as my mother does not generally:
inject lots of stuff into her body
wear a tiny thong and pose and strain to the whoops and cheers of men.
have freakish arms that look to have been further enhanced by synthol, an oil that a great majority of pro bodybuilders - which she is not - use.
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Er..in his arms. You're asking for signs of synthol abuse. They don't all use it to get nasty Nasser-like comedy lumps and bumps. That's what happens when you fuck it up. When used effectively it can enhance the bodypart.
I am saying that I think he has used synthol, like a very high percentage of these guys - they inject everything else..why not a bit of 'pump and pose' ? My claim has far more basis than you claiming that my mother uses synthol as my mother does not generally:
inject lots of stuff into her body
wear a tiny thong and pose and strain to the whoops and cheers of men.
have freakish arms that look to have been further enhanced by synthol, an oil that a great majority of pro bodybuilders - which she is not - use.
You have produced zero evidence, visual or otherwise, that he has used synthol. You lose. If his synthol use is so subtle that you cannot observe it, you may as well not even claim that he uses it. Your logic is lacking, my friend :-\
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You have produced zero evidence, visual or otherwise, that he has used synthol. You lose. If his synthol use is so subtle that you cannot observe it, you may as well not even claim that he uses it. Your logic is lacking, my friend :-\
No it's not. You simply don't want to accept that someone you seem to really like has probably used synthol, like all the others. I am saying that his arms are the evidence. Again, you fail to differentiate between synthol use and synthol abuse. Greg Valentino is synthol abuse. Just about every single pro without an obviously misshapen, deformed bodypart is synthol use. They don't inject synthol to look bad, they do it to enhance what they have ..people only seem to mention it when it spills over and ruins the physique...but why would they inject synthol in the first place, and risk this, if that's all it did..if it's sole purpose was to destroy a physique and turn it into a joke?
They inject countless AAS and large amounts HGH..why do you think they wouldn't inject an oil that when properly administered can enhance a physique and make the muscles look much fuller and bigger?
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No it's not. You simply don't want to accept that someone you seem to really like has probably used synthol, like all the others. I am saying that his arms are the evidence. Again, you fail to differentiate between synthol use and synthol abuse. Greg Valentino is synthol abuse. Just about every single pro without an obviously misshapen, deformed bodypart is synthol use. They don't inject synthol to look bad, they do it to enhance what they have ..people only seem to mention it when it spills over and ruins the physique...but why would they inject synthol in the first place, and risk this, if that's all it did..if it's sole purpose was to destroy a physique and turn it into a joke?
They inject countless AAS and large amounts HGH..why do you think they wouldn't inject an oil that when properly administered can enhance a physique and make the muscles look much fuller and bigger?
You seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying that it is impossible for Phil to have injected synthol, I am saying there is no visual evidence of it. Strong bodyparts are not evidence of abuse. Arms are already a strong bodypart for him as it is. I just don't agree with you. Let me guess, Arnold had synthol in his biceps ::)
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You seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying that it is impossible for Phil to have injected synthol,
Oh..ok then, that was not made clear when you made this statement regarding the possible synthol use :
There is not a drop present ::)
I am not missing the point as you poorly and inarticulately expressed it.
Strong bodyparts are not evidence of abuse.
For the third time: I am not talking about synthol abuse, I am talking about synthol use.
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I don't like to agree with truegrit but he is probably right.
Nasser has stated on the record that 99.9% of the pros use synthol and Nasser knows a hell of a lot more about pro bodybuilding as wse do.
the irony is that Nasser himself never actually used synthol as you claim. he had terrible scar tissue from site injections and real hard heavy training.
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You seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying that it is impossible for Phil to have injected synthol, I am saying there is no visual evidence of it. Strong bodyparts are not evidence of abuse. Arms are already a strong bodypart for him as it is. I just don't agree with you. Let me guess, Arnold had synthol in his biceps ::)
yet you typed "synthol" every chance you got when referring to Mr. Levrone's shoulders ::)
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when flex hit the fdb, his biceps looked smooth, but that doesn't mean it was synthol.
look at pics of guys hitting the fdb from the 60s and 70s, ripped to shreds, but their biceps sometimes appear oily. if they were competing today, u'd cry synthol. so where's the logic?
i do agree, sometimes it's obvious, but not in heath's case.
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Heath has great body parts, but he can never really be complete with such narrow torso. Actually, his only truly amazing bodypart is his arms and even they don't look great from all angles.
Wolf is going to make him look like a kid come Olympia time.
Still, great to have him competing, I ain't hating. Let's just keep it real kids.
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Until there's some sort of evidence even if it's skeptical I believe his arms are natural (no oil). He just has great arm genetics and they are so detailed that if there was oil present I think it would be somewhat noticeable. Matt C post that pic of you and him, his arm looks amazing there.
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Oh..ok then, that was not made clear when you made this statement regarding the possible synthol use :
I am not missing the point as you poorly and inarticulately expressed it.
For the third time: I am not talking about synthol abuse, I am talking about synthol use.
My point was perfectly articulated. You cannot see any synthol. It is only conjecture that he has used it. I think we are basically on the same page here, I'm just saying that we shouldn't call synthol because someone has a strong bodypart. Had his arms been less impressive, we would be less likely to say he used it, but the reality is he really doesn't need any assistance in his arms.
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yet you typed "synthol" every chance you got when referring to Mr. Levrone's shoulders ::)
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Esiclene abuse ::)
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the irony is that Nasser himself never actually used synthol as you claim. he had terrible scar tissue from site injections and real hard heavy training.
hahahahahaahaahhahaaaaaaaa, fuckin idiot!! hahahahhahaaaaaa
Funniest post ever, right here....... ;D
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His arms are a reminisce of Flex Wheeler's. Flex used synthol, and that's how it's broken down. ;D
Flex used Synthol toward the end of his career, like 1999 and 2000, mostly in delts, but probably in his arms, which didn't have his trademarked striations in his bis. If you compare pics from 1993-1997 you see Flex was always "gunslinger" and had epic arms (even before he got his pro card).
Those who use synthol tend to not have crisp look to their arms. Which Phil has. You see striations and all, and the fact that one arm is bigger than the other (his left) shows that one arm is stronger, or gets more work out of them. If he was using synthol, why not try and correct the imbalance? Well, because he doesn't need to. Just like how Melvin Anthony has a double bi peak on one arm and the other doesn't.
Also Phil's arms have always have the same shape, even if you look at the his first couple of contests before he turned pro. Same shape, same detail, same striations in his bis and tris, they just grew, Thing is, he doesn't need synthol, those who tend to use it, know they have a weakness that they try to hide, and sometimes, like Ernie Taylor, become a "overwhelming" bodypart that they are known for.
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Esiclene abuse ::)
where is the "visual evidence" you said was needed?
or is it only needed for phil heath ::)
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If he is using synthol, then he is doing one hell of a job with it!!
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Usually synthol is visible in the front double biceps. This certainly does not apply to Heath. Nowhere does it appear. The man is clean.
Was not visible in Flex Wheeler- I was shocked to learn Flex was hitting the oil can.....
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The GREAT LuciusFox!!! Am I the only one who noticed this ghost of getbig past? He dwarfs you!
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Didn't he said in flex that he DOESN"T work arms? :o
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(http://es.fitness.com/forum/attachments/culturistas/3507d1168623559-ernie-taylor-ernietaylor.jpg)
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charles clairmonte was better than yates.
I really hope you're joking.
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Id bet $100 dollars Heath has no Synthol in his entire body, He does not need it.Photos of the Ironman shows he is shredded in the arms and Synthol is not going to make him wider so why touch the shit.
If Flex never admitted to Synthol abuse we probaly would have never known.The only people who should inject Synthol is Elite plastic suergeons on BBs Example Ernie Taylor wrecked a promising career.
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/30757-3/2008-ironman-222.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d93a078c3a3dafcd2cf67955c5f4d00b)
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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The most impresive in that pic is his fucking right leg, take a closer look at his quads and hams. WOW. Yeah Phil Heath is all about narrow shoulder and arms ::)
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His legs dwarfed Dex's.
He should have won.
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Le loup va vaincre....
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Le loup va vaincre....
C'est une autre histoire ça. :D
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oh yeah!!!!
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hahahahahaahaahhahaaaaaaaa, fuckin idiot!! hahahahhahaaaaaa
Funniest post ever, right here....... ;D
NO. YOU are the idiot you little worshipper of the DCM. Nasser NEVER EVER used synthol. he used an earlier oil and he says that ALL the top bodybuilders use it. All of them.
Nasser does not lie. The wizard of truth is his name because he is first and only bodybuilder to finally tell the fans the truth about this dirty business.
(http://hugenasserelsonbaty.com/pics/waterfountain.jpg)
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NO. YOU are the idiot you little worshipper of the DCM. Nasser NEVER EVER used synthol. he used an earlier oil and he says that ALL the top bodybuilders use it. All of them.
Nasser does not lie. The wizard of truth is his name because he is first and only bodybuilder to finally tell the fans the truth about this dirty business.
(http://hugenasserelsonbaty.com/pics/waterfountain.jpg)
ok. ::)
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This is ridiculous!!!!!!
like Levrone, when he did a crap MM his arms would explode in size but in a FDB they appeared smaller and on par with the rest of the top guys.
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guy has freaky arms..but he is too narrow to be mr olympia.
narrow combined with too small chest.
Original.
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Heath has great body parts, but he can never really be complete with such narrow torso. Actually, his only truly amazing bodypart is his arms and even they don't look great from all angles.
Wolf is going to make him look like a kid come Olympia time.
Still, great to have him competing, I ain't hating. Let's just keep it real kids.
Actually i don't think so. I've got my reservations about Wolf's conditioning. Heath will blow him away on that aspect. *People* comment upon Heaths (apparent) lack of width and chest development. However, he's got a much improved lower back, and has calfs and killer arms. Where does Wolf stand on those scores? I predict that Phil Heath will place higher that Dennis Wolf at this years Mr. O.
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small waist on that fella
haha good one sgt.d.
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haha good one sgt.d.
Mr olympia "material" for sure.
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Perhaps I should restate my position. My opinion is that we shouldn't accuse people of synthol just because they have a strong bodypart. There are certainly people who use reasonable amounts that are difficult to detect, but I think we should reserve our scorn for people who are obviously using.
When you look at Kevin Levrone's inflated triceps, or Flex Wheeler's delts in the later years, you can see for yourself ::)
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(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/arnoldclassicbackstage/images/IMG_1150_2.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/arnoldclassicbackstage/images/IMG_1149_2.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/arnoldclassicbackstage/images/IMG_1129_2.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/arnoldclassicbackstage/images/IMG_1127_2.jpg)
:o :o :o :o
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Id bet $100 dollars Heath has no Synthol in his entire body, He does not need it.
Do you want to send me a cheque or pay via paypal?
BTW: Welcome to reality. I know it really sucks.
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good tris...
bis lack peak tho
tris looks great in the most muscular...
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Didn't he said in flex that he DOESN"T work arms? :o
Yet they were going thru a arm workout with him when he first came on the scene. ::). It is especially noted his version of "tri-sets", in which he does 3 sets of rope pulldowns with weight increasing 10 pounds per set, a brief rest, then another 3 sets increasing in 10 pounds per set, and then another...
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2008 Mr Olympia 3rd place (if Martinez don't compete).
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Do you want to send me a cheque or pay via paypal?
BTW: Welcome to reality. I know it really sucks.
I only said it didn't look like he had it in his arms ;D
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any more synthol and he'll be into Ernie Taylor territory.
Another synthol claim ::) Give us a freggen break ::) Id like to think the pic was morphed but its not, the guy is gifted with freakish arms...
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Another synthol claim ::) Give us a freggen break ::) Id like to think the pic was morphed but its not, the guy is gifted with freakish arms...
lol. 99.9% of all IFBB pros use synthol. Nasser has spoken on this at length. people only seem to comment when it is to noticable but they all use it. Heath has synthol in his arms without a doubt.
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He hasn't.
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He hasn't.
you can't prove it either way. the only people who know for sure if heath has used synthol are Heath himself and the guy who injects it for him.
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lol. 99.9% of all IFBB pros use synthol. Nasser has spoken on this at length. people only seem to comment when it is to noticable but they all use it. Heath has synthol in his arms without a doubt.
And you would believe EVERYTHING that he says won't you.
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And you would believe EVERYTHING that he says won't you.
I would believe one of the greatest IFBB pros of all time on a mission to tell the fans the truth a thousand times over strangers on getbig.
they all use synthol.
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you can't prove it either way. the only people who know for sure if heath has used synthol are Heath himself and the guy who injects it for him.
He don't use synthol.
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lol. 99.9% of all IFBB pros use synthol. Nasser has spoken on this at length. people only seem to comment when it is to noticable but they all use it. Heath has synthol in his arms without a doubt.
There is no way in hell he has any form of synthol in his arms... He may have spot injections but no synthol, Synthol is pretty obvious when its used. There are no cuts or striations in the site of a synthol user. I would say Heaths arms are way to hard and define to have any synthol.....
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There is no way in hell he has any form of synthol in his arms... He may have spot injections but no synthol, Synthol is pretty obvious when its used. There are no cuts or striations in the site of a synthol user. I would say Heaths arms are way to hard and define to have any synthol.....
you are a guy speculating on the internet. Nasser El Sonbaty is one of the greatest of all time IFBB pros and privy to all the secrets of the pros. He has said many times that they all use synthol.
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you are a guy speculating on the internet. Nasser El Sonbaty is one of the greatest of all time IFBB pros and privy to all the secrets of the pros. He has said many times that they all use synthol.
I would say that NASSER HIMSELF has used synthol many times.. Im not saying that its not abused in BB, but no way near as much as you are speculating....
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He made his arm bigger cuz his frame is narrow.In fact,it's pretty obvious in their mm pose, Dex is much wider than Heath.
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Synthol is pretty obvious when its used.
No it's not. That is completely untrue. Synthol use is only 'pretty obvious' when it is abused and misused. They wouldn't use it if it was so pointless. When used properly and expertly it increases muscle fullness and size and is harder to detect. What we get to see are when it goes wrong, not the only cases where it is used. People like Nasser and Milos didn't deliberately inject something that is ruinous for the sake of it. They did it because if you do it properly you inject it under the muscle and it will increase its size and fullness without any of the obvious signs you mention.
They wouldn't all do it if it didn't work. Again..they take all manner of drugs and are used to multiple injections..why do you think they wouldn't use something that when used effectively will enhance a physique? Sure, it's risky if it backfires but so is taking huge amounts of painkillers, AAS, HGH and diuretics.
I can't understand why people won't accept that synthol use is widespread and in most cases, if done moderately and properly, you won't be totally sure.
I'm with Nasser on this subject too.
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I would say that NASSER HIMSELF has used synthol many times.. Im not saying that its not abused in BB, but no way near as much as you are speculating....
actually Nasser never used synthol. this is where i disagree with truegrit but he is right that the IFBB pros all use it.
Nasser has admitted that he did use oil, it just wasn't synthol. seriously, they all use oil.
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No it's not. That is completely untrue. Synthol use is only 'pretty obvious' when it is abused and misused. They wouldn't use it if it was so pointless. When used properly and expertly it increases muscle fullness and size and is harder to detect. What we get to see are when it goes wrong, not the only cases where it is used. People like Nasser and Milos didn't deliberately inject something that is ruinous for the sake of it. They did it because if you do it properly you inject it under the muscle and it will increase its size and fullness without any of the obvious signs you mention.
They wouldn't all do it if it didn't work. Again..they take all manner of drugs and are used to multiple injections..why do you think they wouldn't use something that when used effectively will enhance a physique? Sure, it's risky if it backfires but so is taking huge amounts of painkillers, AAS, HGH and diuretics.
I can't understand why people won't accept that synthol use is widespread and in most cases, if done moderately and properly, you won't be totally sure.
I'm with Nasser on this subject too.
Just because many pros might use synthol, it doesn't mean that every impressive muscle is filled with synthol. Nasser's opinion that everyone uses synthol is an opinion only. Some people are sensible enough not to put oil into an already strong bodypart.
The synthol police are no better than those who claim every impressive physique in the gym is the result of steroids ::)
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Now we all know Nasser is smart, but what kinda smart is Nasser? Is he smart enough to not use synthol, or is he smart enough to think he could use it and get away with it. With his arrogant tone in his interviews i think the latter is much more likely.
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I highly doubt Phil Heath uses synthol their is a clear split in his peak not to mention his bis and tris are pretty proportionate it would look real funky if he did
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. Nasser's opinion that everyone uses synthol is an opinion only. Some people are sensible enough not to put oil into an already strong bodypart.
Not only. It is not just an opinion. He is an IFBB pro, one the best of all time and there are things he will know that outsiders and fans would never even dream of - stay tuned on this.
I would listen to Nasser over and above anyone else on the internet. He is on a mission to spread the real truth about bodybuilding to the fans. If he says that 99.9% of the pros use synthol then he is not lying or wrong.
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Not only. It is not just an opinion. He is an IFBB pro, one the best of all time and there are things he will know that outsiders and fans would never even dream of - stay tuned on this.
I would listen to Nasser over and above anyone else on the internet. He is on a mission to spread the real truth about bodybuilding to the fans. If he says that 99.9% of the pros use synthol then he is not lying or wrong.
Damn, you're a bigger idiot than Bluto, at least Bluto is funny, you're just a nasser ballsweat sucker..
You're pathetic.
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There is no way in hell he has any form of synthol in his arms... He may have spot injections but no synthol, Synthol is pretty obvious when its used. There are no cuts or striations in the site of a synthol user. I would say Heaths arms are way to hard and define to have any synthol.....
Uh uh uh...........That's not what Nasser said. Nope. I believe Nasser because he was a pro. Yep, Nasser is right. Yep YEP YEP!!!!!!!
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I would listen to Nasser over and above anyone else on the internet. He is on a mission to spread the real truth about bodybuilding to the fans. If he says that 99.9% of the pros use synthol then he is not lying or wrong.
Sharma, WTF is wrong with you??????????
Nasser does NOT know if any pros are using synthol just like he does NOT know the gear cycles other pros use.
Where the fuck do you think Nasser would get such information??? .....Mind reader?? ....Secret "pro" messege baord where they communicate everything they use and take???
Come on, get fucking serious.
In addition, Nasser is a fucking certified liar, we have proven that a million times here.
Didn't Nasser make the claim that he is a millionaire and loans out money to the Fortune 500?? Yet he owns no home and sells his used and soiled underwear to "fans"...errrr......schmoes for $5 a pop???
You show me a millionaire Pro BBer, or ANY millionaire, that resorts to selling soiled underwear for $5 a pop and I will prove the moon is made out of cheese.
Kapaice???
Hope this helps.
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Sharma, WTF is wrong with you??????????
Nasser does NOT know if any pros are using synthol just like he does NOT know the gear cycles other pros use.
Where the fuck do you think Nasser would get such information??? .....Mind reader?? ....Secret "pro" messege baord where they communicate everything they use and take???
Come on, get fucking serious.
In addition, Nasser is a fucking certified liar, we have proven that a million times here.
Didn't Nasser make the claim that he is a millionaire and loans out money to the Fortune 500?? Yet he owns no home and sells his used and soiled underwear to "fans"...errrr......schmoes for $5 a pop???
You show me a millionaire Pro BBer, or ANY millionaire, that resorts to selling soiled underwear for $5 a pop and I will prove the moon is made out of cheese.
Kapaice???
Hope this helps.
I think Sharma is in need of some help :'(
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When he first started off pro he looked decent. Now hes looking more and more bloated and filled with extra fluid. This is what most of todays bodybuilders do that screws them up. They load too much drugs and extra oil, water, fluid..etc sits in them.
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There aint no oil in them arms! Oh No there isn't.
Did you cause problems on ironage?
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then give me a pair of these synthol arms. i would drag them with pride.
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...so what if he DID use Synthol?
*crickets chirping
Really, even Charles friggin' GLASS advocated the 'proper' use of Synthol...said so in his old MM article. Which surprised me, but when you got a guy like THAT admitting the usefulness of it, then who's to say Phil hasn't used it too?
...like it's any less 'honorable' or something to use Synthol?...they inject every other friggin' thing into themselves to look that way, why not Synthol? I hate to agree with the proponent here, cause I think Heath is AWESOME, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did.
And I don't really care. Dude looks awesome, and while I personally don't think he needs Synthol, who knows if he used it?
What about silicone implants?...calves, pecs?...at least there's scarring involved there. That's blatant 'cheating'...Synthol is on a different level. Kinda like esiclene...which Flex used back in the day, and we didn't know shit all about it till he said so.
But I see Synthol as a big risk for relatively little gain...that last bit of improvement can destroy a physique if used improperly, oh, and CAN KILL YOU!
One of the best things about Phil is his personality...the guy can actually talk with an interest about the sport, the complexities of it and with a genuine enthusiasm that is COMPLETELY LOST among his contemporaries...THAT'S what makes him even more awesome.
Whatever Phil's using, how he's using it...I don't care, the guy is AWESOME for bodybuilding, period.
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Flex used Synthol toward the end of his career, like 1999 and 2000, mostly in delts, but probably in his arms, which didn't have his trademarked striations in his bis. If you compare pics from 1993-1997 you see Flex was always "gunslinger" and had epic arms (even before he got his pro card).
Flex started the Synthol in 93 at the latest.
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Synthol is very evident in his shoulders. If you cant see that, then its a good thing your not a judge.
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Flex started the Synthol in 93 at the latest.
No, Synthol was not invented until 1996, Flex used Escilene for his delts and probably his calves. He admitted to that. So Flex could not used something that was not invented yet.Synthol is very evident in his shoulders. If you cant see that, then its a good thing your not a judge.
So you can see it thru his three striated delt heads...you must have a good eye.
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Sharma, WTF is wrong with you??????????
Nasser does NOT know if any pros are using synthol just like he does NOT know the gear cycles other pros use.
Where the fuck do you think Nasser would get such information??? .....Mind reader?? ....Secret "pro" messege baord where they communicate everything they use and take???
Come on, get fucking serious.
In addition, Nasser is a fucking certified liar, we have proven that a million times here.
Didn't Nasser make the claim that he is a millionaire and loans out money to the Fortune 500?? Yet he owns no home and sells his used and soiled underwear to "fans"...errrr......schmoes for $5 a pop???
You show me a millionaire Pro BBer, or ANY millionaire, that resorts to selling soiled underwear for $5 a pop and I will prove the moon is made out of cheese.
Kapaice???
Hope this helps.
No point in reasoning with that crazy fag. Just leave it. :-\
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Synthol is very evident in his shoulders. If you cant see that, then its a good thing your not a judge.
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That aint symthol abuse.
60% muscle at least.
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No, Synthol was not invented until 1996, Flex used Escilene for his delts and probably his calves. He admitted to that. So Flex could not used something that was not invented yet.
That's not true at all. It was around way before that. Remember Manfred Hoeberl? Flex Wheeler's dramatic calf "growth" in 92-93 wasn't from Esiclene, that's for sure.
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you are a guy speculating on the internet. Nasser El Sonbaty is one of the greatest of all time IFBB pros and privy to all the secrets of the pros. He has said many times that they all use synthol.
Nasser was hardly privy to the whereabouts and actions of many pros. It's mostly speculation on his part. For example, Nasser really wouldn't know anything about Dorian Yates since he was on another continent for most of the year. I really doubt Dorian ever used synthol. To outright say 99.9% of all pro BB are using synthol (not that I deny this) and then come about and say he never did is downright comical.
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you are a guy speculating on the internet. Nasser El Sonbaty is one of the greatest of all time IFBB pros and privy to all the secrets of the pros. He has said many times that they all use synthol.
SO............IF 99.9 PERCENT OF PROS USE IT. That means Nasser is the .00000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 1 percent that didn't? :o ::)
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That's not true at all. It was around way before that. Remember Manfred Hoeberl? Flex Wheeler's dramatic calf "growth" in 92-93 wasn't from Esiclene, that's for sure.
Are you talking about that pic of a Off season Flex with Lenda Murray and Paul Demayo---it was a ad for NPC clothing and Flex was wearing a white and black unitard. His calves did look extremely big, but I'm going with Escilene, because he said that he and Kevin Levrone were the biggest users of it. That was back in 1995- or 1996 Lenda Murray had a Halle Berry haircut. Chris Clark is credited with coming up with Synthol. Manfred was his guinea pig (probably), and then Ernie Taylor, Ernie first was getting noticed on the other side of the ocean back in 1996.
Flex never made any great strides in calf develop in 1992-1993, actually if you look at his calves at the 1993 Arnold ( I had posted a pic last year), you'll see that his calves are split and proportionate to his body. Shawn admitted on here that he came up with the calf implants, and Flex even joked about it. In Flex's "Hardbody" vid, he flex's a calf muscle, which has the normal look to it.
Flex admitted to using synthol towards the end of his career, the 1999 Olympia and the 2000 Arnold to be exact
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Pic taken in Milos Sarcev's gym 2 days after his IronMan 2008 won.
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Are you talking about that pic of a Off season Flex with Lenda Murray and Paul Demayo---it was a ad for NPC clothing and Flex was wearing a white and black unitard. His calves did look extremely big, but I'm going with Escilene, because he said that he and Kevin Levrone were the biggest users of it. That was back in 1995- or 1996 Lenda Murray had a Halle Berry haircut. Chris Clark is credited with coming up with Synthol. Manfred was his guinea pig (probably), and then Ernie Taylor, Ernie first was getting noticed on the other side of the ocean back in 1996.
Flex never made any great strides in calf develop in 1992-1993, actually if you look at his calves at the 1993 Arnold ( I had posted a pic last year), you'll see that his calves are split and proportionate to his body. Shawn admitted on here that he came up with the calf implants, and Flex even joked about it. In Flex's "Hardbody" vid, he flex's a calf muscle, which has the normal look to it.
Flex admitted to using synthol towards the end of his career, the 1999 Olympia and the 2000 Arnold to be exact
The Shawn Ray implant accusation came around 93 IIRC. I remember a Shawn quote, "Flex got calves overnight and he doesn't even train them!". It was obvious something fishy was going on with Flex's calves or the accusation wouldn't have even been an issue. I'm sure Flex and some other pros got acquainted with Chris Clark at FIBO or some other event. Read this:
http://www.ergogenics.org/synthol2.html
Esiclene was obviously something everyone was aware of at the time and Shawn knew Flex was doing something different.
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Here's the pic you mentioned:
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_197.jpg)
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Dexter's arms are pretty sick too:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mtdexterjackson/bild11.jpg)
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these are partly fake arms offcourse, thats pro bodybuilding today. all an illusion.
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Dexter looks awesome there. Seems like a rare thing these days to see shoulder striations.
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Not only. It is not just an opinion. He is an IFBB pro, one the best of all time and there are things he will know that outsiders and fans would never even dream of - stay tuned on this.
I would listen to Nasser over and above anyone else on the internet. He is on a mission to spread the real truth about bodybuilding to the fans. If he says that 99.9% of the pros use synthol then he is not lying or wrong.
arab!
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Do you want to send me a cheque or pay via paypal?
BTW: Welcome to reality. I know it really sucks.
I subsitute your reality,and create my own ;D
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these are partly fake arms offcourse, thats pro bodybuilding today. all an illusion.
ok "Mars". ::)
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are you saying these arms are just like that because of steroids alone? like in arnolds era.
when they are filled with substances here and there i consider them partly fake because thats how it is in pro bodybuilding today.
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are you saying these arms are just like that because of steroids alone? like in arnolds era.
when they are filled with substances here and there i consider them partly fake because thats how it is in pro bodybuilding today.
I mean its impossible these arms are having synthol.......maybe esiclene but not synthol.......
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Synthol is very evident in his shoulders. If you cant see that, then its a good thing your not a judge.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/30757-3/2008-ironman-222.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d93a078c3a3dafcd2cf67955c5f4d00b)
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The Shawn Ray implant accusation came around 93 IIRC. I remember a Shawn quote, "Flex got calves overnight and he doesn't even train them!". It was obvious something fishy was going on with Flex's calves or the accusation wouldn't have even been an issue. I'm sure Flex and some other pros got acquainted with Chris Clark at FIBO or some other event. Read this:
http://www.ergogenics.org/synthol2.html
Esiclene was obviously something everyone was aware of at the time and Shawn knew Flex was doing something different.
But which FIBO was it. Shawn had said he had tried to get Flex off his game, which he kinda did. Flex's calves were not huge back in 1993. ANd even when he won his pro card in 1992Here's the pic you mentioned:
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_197.jpg)
Yep, that's the pic, I don't believe he he had calve implants, but maybe he might have been experimenting with Synthol, who knows? But his calves don't look un-natural (and this was back in 1996). Yeah Esiclene was widely used, but the biggest users according to Flex was him and Kev ( I wonder where Kev used it...hmm)
I still conclude that Phil doesn't need to use Synthol, because he's pretty damn ripped and had big guns from the getgo. Unless his arms were a lagging bodypart, then I could see him using it, like Milos did with his tris.
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But which FIBO was it. Shawn had said he had tried to get Flex off his game, which he kinda did. Flex's calves were not huge back in 1993. ANd even when he won his pro card in 1992
Yep, that's the pic, I don't believe he he had calve implants, but maybe he might have been experimenting with Synthol, who knows? But his calves don't look un-natural (and this was back in 1996). Yeah Esiclene was widely used, but the biggest users according to Flex was him and Kev ( I wonder where Kev used it...hmm)
I obviously can't say for sure when Flex started with Synthol. I'm sure someone here knows, maybe McFarland knows? Flex has admitted to using Synthol and you could ask him at MD but I don't think he would give a straight answer. One thing is for sure, his calves looked like absolute shit towards the end of his career.
I remember some pro writing on Musclemayhem that Kevin tore his tricep due to shooting too much shit in them.
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Best arms in the biz.
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I obviously can't say for sure when Flex started with Synthol. I'm sure someone here knows, maybe McFarland knows? Flex has admitted to using Synthol and you could ask him at MD but I don't think he would give a straight answer. One thing is for sure, his calves looked like absolute shit towards the end of his career.
I remember some pro writing on Musclemayhem that Kevin tore his tricep due to shooting too much shit in them.
Flex looked like shit in 2001 and 2003. IN 2002, he had a very clean look, even though he was lighter. His vid chronicling the 2002 prep showed him look ing very clean crisp, his skin was different, and his muscle seemed to look like they did back in 1993...very odd, yet refreshing.
I think he would give a straight answer, he has nothing to lose, and if you read his book...he admitted to worse things.
It was posted on here first when Kev tore his tri and lat, doing an overhead lat pull on a lat machine.
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This is ridiculous!!!!!!
Heath would look so much better if he could tighten those obliques. They look ridiculously huge there.
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Flex looked like shit in 2001 and 2003. IN 2002, he had a very clean look, even though he was lighter. His vid chronicling the 2002 prep showed him look ing very clean crisp, his skin was different, and his muscle seemed to look like they did back in 1993...very odd, yet refreshing.
I think he would give a straight answer, he has nothing to lose, and if you read his book...he admitted to worse things.
It was posted on here first when Kev tore his tri and lat, doing an overhead lat pull on a lat machine.
Post some pics of Flex 2002 pls.
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lol. 99.9% of all IFBB pros use synthol. Nasser has spoken on this at length. people only seem to comment when it is to noticable but they all use it. Heath has synthol in his arms without a doubt.
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gh15's input?
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Yeah Esiclene was widely used, but the biggest users according to Flex was him and Kev ( I wonder where Kev used it...hmm)
the easier question to answer is "where didn't Kevin use esiclene"?
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the easier question to answer is "where didn't Kevin use esiclene"?
are you ever going to come out and explain how Mr. Levrone owned you?
the owning has caused you to be delusional enough to think heath is better ???
talking can only help :)
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gh15's input?
gonna have to 'pm' him for that -- so he can have his own thread
seacrest out
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I think he would give a straight answer, he has nothing to lose, and if you read his book...he admitted to worse things.
Nah, he still hasn't told the truth about the Ninja episode. Started a thread on MD asking if people wanted to hear the true story, then never returned to the story after I asked if Shawn was correct when he said Flex punched a wall in frustration. Comes across as a very insecure person. When will he unveil the "Natural Freak"? Never. I'm sure he's still on testosterone too.
Calves looked very bad towards the end
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_383.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/wheeler/013.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/wheeler/014.jpg)
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Nah, he still hasn't told the truth about the Ninja episode. Started a thread on MD asking if people wanted to hear the true story, then never returned to the story after I asked if Shawn was correct when he said Flex punched a wall in frustration. Comes across as a very insecure person. When will he unveil the "Natural Freak"? Never. I'm sure he's still on testosterone too.
Calves looked very bad towards the end
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_383.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/wheeler/013.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/wheeler/014.jpg)
They barely even look like a muscle :-\
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Munzer-like conditioning.
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WTF? Brutal calves hahaha
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Flex used Synthol toward the end of his career, like 1999 and 2000, mostly in delts, but probably in his arms, which didn't have his trademarked striations in his bis. If you compare pics from 1993-1997 you see Flex was always "gunslinger" and had epic arms (even before he got his pro card).
Those who use synthol tend to not have crisp look to their arms. Which Phil has. You see striations and all, and the fact that one arm is bigger than the other (his left) shows that one arm is stronger, or gets more work out of them. If he was using synthol, why not try and correct the imbalance? Well, because he doesn't need to. Just like how Melvin Anthony has a double bi peak on one arm and the other doesn't.
Also Phil's arms have always have the same shape, even if you look at the his first couple of contests before he turned pro. Same shape, same detail, same striations in his bis and tris, they just grew, Thing is, he doesn't need synthol, those who tend to use it, know they have a weakness that they try to hide, and sometimes, like Ernie Taylor, become a "overwhelming" bodypart that they are known for.
melvin anthony has admitted to using synthol in his arms a number of times
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melvin anthony has admitted to using synthol in his arms a number of times
dbol isn't a magic pill ???
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And the funny thing is hany doesn't even let him train arms!
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melvin anthony has admitted to using synthol in his arms a number of times
When he do this....
Hell, he's got one bi that has a split head and the other that doesn't. I know he had a tricep injury...but there has been nothing of him saying he used synthol. Even his delts, which look flatish are not pumped up.
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Original.
just like your moms butthole.
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Munzer-like conditioning.
At least he's still alive today... :D