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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Mega Man on March 08, 2008, 07:55:49 PM
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I have never used AAS as of yet, but I'm thinking about it. I'm not scared of needles, or the pain of injecting myself at all....
My fear is of injecting wrong if thats even possible. I was wondering if you can tell me what are the chances of me making a dangerous mistake injecting myself or what are the potential disasters that can happen by injecting wrong or something? Like infection, hitting a blood vessel, or injecting air bubble?
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Get caught and you will get many painful injections in your ass while in priso0n.
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Get caught and you will get many painful injections in your ass while in priso0n.
they let you take AAS in prison :o
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I have never used AAS as of yet, but I'm thinking about it. I'm not scared of needles, or the pain of injecting myself at all....
My fear is of injecting wrong if thats even possible. I was wondering if you can tell me what are the chances of me making a dangerous mistake injecting myself or what are the potential disasters that can happen by injecting wrong or something? Like infection, hitting a blood vessel, or injecting air bubble?
Abcess, Infection, Death. If you can dream it, it can come true.
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Like infection, hitting a blood vessel, or injecting air bubble?
properly clean area of injection and you wont risk infection
aspirate needle so you know you arent in a blood vessel
purge all air bubbles from syringe before injecting
very easy
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properly clean area of injection and you wont risk infection
aspirate needle so you know you arent in a blood vessel
purge all air bubbles from syringe before injecting
very easy
Can do it with my eyes closed
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What should be my biggest concern when injecting?
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As long as everything is done in a sanitary fashion, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything.
**DO's
*Use clean needles and syringes
*Use "clean gear"
*Pre swab the area with alcohol before injecting.
*Inject in the proper places. http://www.howtodoinjections.com/
**DON'ts
*Don't reuse needles or syringes
*Don't use needles you accidental dropped on the floor.
*Don't inject while sitting on the toilet...I added this one because someone on here a while back said this is how they do it.
**Not 100% Necessary but helpful precautions:
*Draw out oil with one pin, replace with a fresh pin before injecting
*Shower before injecting
*Try not to freak out about it too much...it's really not a big deal...not much more then any other little thing.
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*Don't inject while sitting on the toilet...I added this one because someone on here a while back said this is how they do it.
Hahaha - crazy stuff
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yeah I have done that before too
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As long as everything is done in a sanitary fashion, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything.
**DO's
*Use clean needles and syringes
*Use "clean gear"
*Pre swab the area with alcohol before injecting.
*Inject in the proper places. http://www.howtodoinjections.com/
**DON'ts
*Don't reuse needles or syringes
*Don't use needles you accidental dropped on the floor.
*Don't inject while sitting on the toilet...I added this one because someone on here a while back said this is how they do it.
**Not 100% Necessary but helpful precautions:
*Draw out oil with one pin, replace with a fresh pin before injecting
*Shower before injecting
*Try not to freak out about it too much...it's really not a big deal...not much more then any other little thing.
Using dirty gear is probably the #1 way to get an abcess. Like AJ said take a shower, use clean needles, and be sanitary. How many people get abcess from IM injections given by the Doctor? I have never heard of this, because the medicine the Doc gives you is clean.
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Injecting small air bubbles IM is not dangerous. In fact, you can use the 'air bubble technique' to seal a medication in the muscle.
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remember dont inject the division way i.e (throwing the needle in like a dart and not aspirating)
enjoy
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Here is another good site to look at.
www.siteinjections.com
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I have never used AAS as of yet, but I'm thinking about it. I'm not scared of needles, or the pain of injecting myself at all....
My fear is of injecting wrong if thats even possible. I was wondering if you can tell me what are the chances of me making a dangerous mistake injecting myself or what are the potential disasters that can happen by injecting wrong or something? Like infection, hitting a blood vessel, or injecting air bubble?
If you aspirate, you'll only have to worry about piercing a vein and getting some swelling or possibly hitting a nerve.
That's worst case scenario.
If you're this worked up about it, perhaps you'd better stick to pro-hormones. ???
DIV
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If you're this worked up about it, perhaps you'd better stick to pro-hormones. ???
DIV
LOL Thats funny because I can remember my first cycle where ever time I pinned I had to sit there for a half hour and talk myself into doing it. Glad them days are over
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As long as everything is done in a sanitary fashion, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything.
**DO's
*Use clean needles and syringes
*Use "clean gear"
*Pre swab the area with alcohol before injecting.
*Inject in the proper places. http://www.howtodoinjections.com/
**DON'ts
*Don't reuse needles or syringes
*Don't use needles you accidental dropped on the floor.
*Don't inject while sitting on the toilet...I added this one because someone on here a while back said this is how they do it.
**Not 100% Necessary but helpful precautions:
*Draw out oil with one pin, replace with a fresh pin before injecting
*Shower before injecting
*Try not to freak out about it too much...it's really not a big deal...not much more then any other little thing.
Bullseye.
Also I may add, rotate your injections. Left glute, right glute, left delt, right delt, etc. Also use a 25 gauge or 23 gauge needle. Makes for less scar tissue build up and or painfull injections.
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Bullseye.
Also I may add, rotate your injections. Left glute, right glute, left delt, right delt, etc. Also use a 25 gauge or 23 gauge needle. Makes for less scar tissue build up and or painfull injections.
25 is way too tedious, fuckin takes forever to get the juice in/out. 22.5 for me
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25 is way too tedious, fuckin takes forever to get the juice in/out. 22.5 for me
I find it's ok for quads. Anything bigger will result in a painfull injection. Fuck me....22.5? That's a horse dart. You must have nuts of steel to handle that, bro.
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I find it's ok for quads. Anything bigger will result in a painfull injection. Fuck me....22.5? That's a horse dart. You must have nuts of steel to handle that, bro.
Whaaaaaaaaaat? You're jokin right? I mean..its just 22.5 i mean its pretty damn painless, you barely even feel it goin in, its a needle, afterall.
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Whaaaaaaaaaat? You're jokin right? I mean..its just 22.5 i mean its pretty damn painless, you barely even feel it goin in, its a needle, afterall.
Glutes are not a problem with a 22.5 but I tried that once in the quad and it was like pushing a nail through a brick wall. Brutal.
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http://www.howtodoinjections.com/
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Here is a sticky from another board that I thought was awesome.... 8)
Here is a basic guide I got from some other website, not sure which one:
For many of you, this is common knowledge, but I'm sure that some of you still have a few questions about this subject. If you are new to steroids, this FAQ should answer your injection questions. We will start from the very beginning.......
1cc = 1ml
Gauge: The smaller the gauge, the thicker the needle. An 18g is much thicker than a 22g.
Length: Generally 1.5" or 1" for our purposes.
And yes, you can mix water and oil-based steroids in the same syringe.
now we can proceed.......
What is an intramuscular (IM) injection?
A technique to deliver a medication into muscle tissue for it's eventual absorption into the systemic circulation. Steroids, both oil and water-based, are administered this way.
What is a subcutaneous (sub-q) injection?
A technique to deliver a medication into the soft tissue (fat) immediately underlying the skin. Insulin, HCG, and HGH are typically administered this way.
What is aspiration?
To aspirate is to withdraw fluid with a syringe. More specifically, after inserting the needle, pulling back on the plunger of the syringe for a few seconds to see if the needle is in a blood vessel. Rarely, this will be the case and a bit of blood will fill the syringe. If this happens the needle should be removed, replaced with a new one, and another injection site should be used. And yes, if there is a little blood in your syringe, it is ok to inject it along with your steroid once you have found a different spot..........it's your own blood isn't it?
When aspirating, nothing should come back into the syringe if you are in the right spot. Pulling back on the plunger will create a vacuum in your syringe. The oil cannot expand to fill that space, but any air bubbles in your syringe will. You may notice the tiny bubbles getting bigger and bigger as you pull back. They will return to normal size as you release the plunger. If the air bubbles do not disappear upon releasing the plunger, you have an air leak most likely caused by the needle not being screwed onto the syringe tightly enough, although on very rare occasions, the syringe or needle itself can be defective. Either way, purge the air bubbles out, put a new needle on and try it again.
Do I really need to aspirate?
Those who inject without aspirating are taking unnecessary chances. Sweating, nausea, dizziness, severe coughing, breathing difficulties, anaphylactic shock, coma or death can all result from not aspirating. Most of the time, steroid users experience dizziness and coughing fits when they inject into a blood vessel. But you need to be aware of the dangers of neglecting this simple technique that should take about 3-5 seconds of your time.
What exactly is an abscess?
Abscesses occur when an area of tissue becomes infected and the body is able to "wall off" the infection and keep it from spreading. White blood cells migrate through the walls of the blood vessels into the area of the infection and collect within the damaged tissue. During this process, pus forms (an accumulation of fluid, living and dead white blood cells, dead tissue, and bacteria or other foreign invaders or materials).
Abscesses can form in almost every part of the body and may be caused by bacteria, parasites, or foreign materials. Most of the time, it is caused by unsanitary injection techniques. On very rare occasions, it can be caused by foreign particles your gear (a greater chance of this occurs when using/making a homebrew). The abscesses that we are concerned about are usually reddish, raised, and painful.
How do they treat an abscess?
Antibiotics are often given to aid the cure of an abscess but the real cure is generally surgical. A doctor would open the thing up and allow the pus to drain, then the body would take care of the infection. Some have even gone so far as to "drain" their own abscesses by inserting a needle/syringe into the abscessed area and drawing out the accumulated pus, although this is not recommended.
Can I reuse the same needle?
Yes, but only if you are an idiot or cannot obtain anymore needles. There really is no need to explain why you shouldn't re-use a needle. Common sense should kick in here, but the bottom line of re-using needles is an INCREASED CHANCE OF INFECTION. If you have trouble obtaining needles in your area, try finding a different way of getting them. The hassle of finding a source is negligible compared to the hassle of the abscess in your ass that would most-likely require a doctor and a scalpel. There are methods to "sterilize" a needle for re-use, but I will not delve into them. If you are still considering re-using a needle, re-read the above two questions.
Can I inject with the same needle I draw with?
Yes, but it is preferable to switch the needle out with a new one. The needle dulls significantly when pushed into the rubber stopper of your vial or scraped along the bottom of your amp. You may not notice the difference if you inject into your glute, but try injecting into an area that has more nerve endings such as a delt or bicep and you will notice immediately.
Does it matter if I push the needle in fast or slow?
I would recommend slowly, but this is personal preference. A lot of people will tell you to jab the needle in quickly. These people usually stop that practice after the first time they hit a nerve going in at full speed (usually quad shots). By going in slowly, you'll have more time to react if you hit a nerve.
Where exactly do I inject?
A picture is worth a thousand words.
www.spotinjections.com
What gauge needles should I use?
for drawing - 20g, 21g
18g needles are too big and they will eat up your stoppers in a hurry. A bigger hole means an increased chance of letting some little nasties into your sterile vial. Sometimes, the 18g will take out little chunks of rubber that fall nicely into your vial. That is not something you want. Imagine injecting that tiny piece of rubber into your muscle. I'll bet the doctor would have lots of fun digging into your muscle trying to find it and mutilating your muscle in the process.....
for injecting - 22g, 23g, 25g - for oil-based steroids, 27g, 29g - for insulin, HCG, HGH, and some water-based steroids. 21g-25g for some lower quality types of winny or suspension, higher quality versions can use a smaller needle generally.
22g and 23g are fine for glutes and quads. 25g is preferred for the smaller muscles such as delts, biceps, triceps, etc.
What length needles should I use?
Most people can get by with a 1" needle, but if you have a higher percentage of body fat or are just plain big you should use a 1.5" needle to insure that you get deep into the muscle. You should only use a 1.5" needle for glutes, or if you have huge quads. For smaller muscle groups, 1" is the most common, although some people like to use a 5/8".
How many ccs can I shoot in one place?
It depends on how big you are. A general guideline is 1cc for delts, 2cc for quads, and up to 3ccs for glutes. Some do more, some do less......it all depends. After a cycle or two, you will know what your body can handle. If you are injecting into other muscles such as biceps, triceps, or calves, it's best to start off with a small volume and work your way up.
Can I pre-load my syringes?
If at all possible, leave it in the vial or amp. If you need to pre-load, just keep in mind that the syringe must be stored safely. Nothing sucks more than having the plunger pushed in accidentally and losing some of your gear.
Which is the best brand of needle?
Terumo, B-D, and Monoject are the primary manufacturers of needles/syringes. Both Terumo and B-D have an ultra-thin wall design (the wall of the needle is thinner, so more fluid can pass through the same gauge of needle). From personal experience as well as opinions from many other steroid users, Terumo seems to be the sharpest.
Common "FREAK OUTS"
I can't get all the tiny air bubbles out of my syringe....
As long as you tap it and get most of the air out, you will be fine. A little air intramuscular won't hurt you. According to the USH2 by Dan Ducaine, it supposedly takes about 10ccs of air injected into a blood vessel to kill you. I wonder how the hell they figured that one out.
I saw blood in the syringe after I pulled out....
You passed through a blood vessel and a little bit of blood entered the syringe on the way out. No biggie.
I pulled the needle out and blood dripped/squirted out....
You passed through a blood vessel. Apply a little pressure with your alcohol swab. You'll live.
I pulled the needle out and oil was dribbling out....
You injected too much in one place or you didn't inject deep enough. No biggie. Try injecting slower or leaving the needle in you for 30 seconds after you have injected it all. This should give the oil some time to dissipate so very little, if any, should dribble out.
I injected into my quad, and my leg was twitching....
You grazed a nerve. Usually it's a good idea to pull out and try another spot.
I don't think I injected deep enough....
If you think you injected into a layer of fat, don't worry. It will just take longer for the steroid to dissipate than it would if you had injected into the muscle. Eventually it will be absorbed. Don't let anyone tell you that you wasted it because that is not true.
I want to mix two different steroids and combine them into one syringe. How do I do this?
Let's say you want 1cc of deca and 1cc of test. First, draw 1cc of air and inject into your vial of deca. Withdraw 1cc of deca and pull the needle out. With the needle pointing up, draw 1cc of air into your syringe (your plunger will be at the 2cc mark - 1cc of deca in it and 1cc of air you just drew into it). With the needle pointing up, inject that 1cc of air into your vial of test. Withdraw 1cc of test. You now have 1cc of deca and 1cc of test in the same syringe. Don't forget to change the needle before you inject.
Instructions for first-timers.....
Step 1
Wash your hands.
Step 2
Wipe the top of the vial of medication for injection with an alcohol swab.
Step 3
Remove the needle guard from the needle and syringe, saving the needle guard. Be sure you are using a proper syringe for intramuscular injections. Pull back on the syringe plunger to draw up an amount of air equal to the amount of medication that your doctor has prescribed for injection. For example, if you want to inject 2ccs of oil, then pull back 2ccs of air.
Step 4
Holding the vial of medication in an upright position, insert the needle straight through the center of the rubber stopper in the vial. Then push the plunger to discharge all the air into the vial.
Step 5
With the needle in the vial, turn the vial upside down and hold it in one hand. The tip of the needle should be in the solution. Using your free hand, pull the plunger back in a slow, continuous motion until you have drawn into the syringe the amount of medication that your doctor has prescribed.
Step 6
If air bubbles have formed in the syringe, dislodge them by gently tapping the syringe with your free hand while continuing to hold the syringe and vial in the inverted position. Bubbles should rise to the top of the syringe, and then you can push them back into the vial by moving the plunger. Double check to make sure you have the correct amount of medication in the syringe. If necessary, draw more solution into the syringe.
Step 7
Remove the needle from the vial. With the needle pointing upwards, pull back on the plunger until all oil from the needle has been pulled back into the syringe. Unscrew needle from syringe and replace with a brand new, preferably smaller needle. Replace needle guard.
Step 8
Prepare the injection site by cleaning the area with an alcohol swab. To do this start at the center, apply pressure, and cleanse in a circular motion working outward. Do not retrace your steps.
Step 9
Wait a few seconds until the alcohol has dried. This reduces the sting. Remove the needle guard from the needle and syringe. With the needle pointing upwards, tap the syringe to dislodge the air bubbles and push the air out of the needle until you see a tiny drop of oil start to form at the tip. Hold the syringe as you would a pencil.
Step 10
Holding the syringe at a right angle (perpendicular) to the prepared injection site and insert the needle.
Step 11
When the needle is in place, slowly pull back on the plunger to see if any blood flows into the syringe. If some blood does enter the syringe (a rare occurrence), remove the needle, replace the needle with a new one, find another area to inject. Repeat Step 8.
Step 12
If no blood enters the syringe, slowly inject the medication by gently pushing the plunger until the syringe is empty.
Step 13
Remove the needle quickly. Apply pressure to the injection site with your alcohol swab. You're done. Massage the area. Now go do the most important parts - eat and train!
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they let you take AAS in prison :o
oh brother... i appreciate the dry wit here.
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Do Amp openers work good? Do they realy open amps well? They sell them here.....
http://gpzservices.easystorecreator.com/items/products/amp-opener~pill-box~pill-cutter/list.htm
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Do Amp openers work good? Do they realy open amps well? They sell them here.....
http://gpzservices.easystorecreator.com/items/products/amp-opener~pill-box~pill-cutter/list.htm
They are pretty handy IMO.
You can just grab the top of the amp and break it at the neck, but I've had some problems with this before. Problem is that sometimes I end up breaking/shattering the whole amp...that sucks and is irritating.
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I read on another thread that a 23g 1.5 inch needle is a good all around needle for all injections.
for just test e twice a week in glutes....would just ordering 23g 1.5 inch bee okay? And can you reuse the same syringe or do you need a new one every injection?
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I read on another thread that a 23g 1.5 inch needle is a good all around needle for all injections.
for just test e twice a week in glutes....would just ordering 23g 1.5 inch bee okay? And can you reuse the same syringe or do you need a new one every injection?
23g 1.5in is good for glutes, and no you absolutely do not reuse syringes. they only cost like 25 cents each, why would you want to?
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I read on another thread that a 23g 1.5 inch needle is a good all around needle for all injections.
for just test e twice a week in glutes....would just ordering 23g 1.5 inch bee okay? And can you reuse the same syringe or do you need a new one every injection?
That size would be fine.
...and no, do not reuse syringes or pins...new ones every time.
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They are pretty handy IMO.
You can just grab the top of the amp and break it at the neck, but I've had some problems with this before. Problem is that sometimes I end up breaking/shattering the whole amp...that sucks and is irritating.
maybe i should buy one of those amp openers for my friend. he just started and has broken 2 of like 6 amps in his hand, cutting his hand pretty bad.
ive cracked open tons of amps and never once had one break in my hand. just saw on the neck for a bit w/ a serrated knife blade
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maybe i should buy one of those amp openers for my friend. he just started and has broken 2 of like 6 amps in his hand, cutting his hand pretty bad.
ive cracked open tons of amps and never once had one break in my hand. just saw on the neck for a bit w/ a serrated knife blade
Yes, that works too.
But if you order pins, most of those places sell amp openers and they cost almost nothing...why not just buy one for convenience?
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Yes, that works too.
But if you order pins, most of those places sell amp openers and they cost almost nothing...why not just buy one for convenience?
until today i had no idea they even made amp openers. i will inform him :)
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How do you dispose, throw away, or get rid of your needles and syringes?
I live with my grandmother and aunt and want to keep thing a secret? I thought aboui putting it in a small soda bottle or something and throwing it out?
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until today i had no idea they even made amp openers. i will inform him :)
him ??? so your saying you are getting an amp opener
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Okay I got everything I need now for my cycle....
I want to take my first injection now, but it seems difficult to reach my glute by myself. Do you think quads are easier for a first timer injecting himself? I have no fear of pain. I just want to do what's easiest and makes the most sense. I'm doing 500 test e per week, split in 2 shots.
Any advice would be apprecitated!
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Quads are fine, but they are going to hurt. Anywhere you stick it its going to hurt your first couple of times. Just man up and shoot it in your glutes, you should get used to doing this since they are the best place for injecting.
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Quads are fine, but they are going to hurt. Anywhere you stick it its going to hurt your first couple of times. Just man up and shoot it in your glutes, you should get used to doing this since they are the best place for injecting.
Is it hard to aspirate with one hand? And if there is a little blood is it realy that important to stop and change needles? And I have to go to work after wards...is it gonna be hard to walk a little while later or not until tommorow?
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Is it hard to aspirate with one hand? And if there is a little blood is it realy that important to stop and change needles?
It's kind of tricky at first but you need to know how to do it so you might as well get over it and just do it, it's not that difficult once you do it a few times. You don't need to change needles if you aspirate and draw blood, just pull out and inject somewhere else. It's your own blood so its not like you are going to contaminate yourself.
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Okay say you aspirate and a little blood comes out, so you just inject somewhere else like you said.....
since the plunger is pulled back a little bit from aspirating the first time, do you just keep the plunger in the same spot and inject again, then aspirate again pulling it back a little further?
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Well I did...got go to work fast...I hope yall are available later so I can ask some questions!
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maybe i should buy one of those amp openers for my friend. he just started and has broken 2 of like 6 amps in his hand, cutting his hand pretty bad.
ive cracked open tons of amps and never once had one break in my hand. just saw on the neck for a bit w/ a serrated knife blade
I thought everyone used a towel, paper or otherwise, when breaking an amp. Wrap it in something so you don't cut yourself.
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first couple of shots in my quads i couldnt walk right for a few days after..but now they dont hurt at all, no soreness whatsoever
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I did it in my glute....
I didn't feel a thing. I aspirated and saw no blood luckily. I felt no pain at all...even still 3 hours later I feel nothing....does it take a day for you glute till feel sore?
The hard part for me was drawing it out of the amp...the amps are so tiny. The first time I tried when I would pull on the plunger....the air pressure pulled it back when I let go..I'm not sure if this is normal or if I was pulling to hard or fast..but I ended up using a different needle with syringe and only ended up with .75 of a ml instead of a whole....probably some was in the other syringe plus I squeeze more than I needed to..to make sure all the air bubbles were out.
I had a huge adrenalin rush for a couple of hours aftwards from all the emotions. I was also a little paranoid about what if I injected some air bubbles into a blood vessel or something....
But overall it was a good first experience. I officialy crossed over to the dark side! ;D
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I did it in my glute....
I didn't feel a thing. I aspirated and saw no blood luckily. I felt no pain at all...even still 3 hours later I feel nothing....does it take a day for you glute till feel sore?
The hard part for me was drawing it out of the amp...the amps are so tiny. The first time I tried when I would pull on the plunger....the air pressure pulled it back when I let go..I'm not sure if this is normal or if I was pulling to hard or fast..but I ended up using a different needle with syringe and only ended up with .75 of a ml instead of a whole....probably some was in the other syringe plus I squeeze more than I needed to..to make sure all the air bubbles were out.
I had a huge adrenalin rush for a couple of hours aftwards from all the emotions. I was also a little paranoid about what if I injected some air bubbles into a blood vessel or something....
But overall it was a good first experience. I officialy crossed over to the dark side! ;D
See, not a big deal :)
Draw up 1mil of air into an empty syringe, and push that into the amp first then draw out the oil...works a lot faster. Also, a few air bubbles is not going to kill you or do anything. When you get done getting all the oil into the syringe, just push the plunger all the way to the top, let a little bit of oil drip out and then inject.
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Thanks for the tip....I couldn't believe how easy it was
when you say push the air into the amp...do you mean push the air into the oil while the needle is in the oil?
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Thanks for the tip....I couldn't believe how easy it was
when you say push the air into the amp...do you mean push the air into the oil while the needle is in the oil?
Yes
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I thought everyone used a towel, paper or otherwise, when breaking an amp. Wrap it in something so you don't cut yourself.
Yes that is the logical way, I will use a clean towel.
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guess im a lucky one w/ quad injections, never had any pain. 1inch 23g needle, locate halfway point between your knee and hip, go in at the halfway point of the top and side of your leg.
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My second shot I experienced alot more pain then the 1st one....I forgot to aspirate so mabey I hit something.
The good news is I found a trick with the pain....the 2nd day after the shot I still had bad pain so I took 600mg of Ibuprofen (which is prescription strenght or 3 200mg over the counter advils)...and the pain went away 100% in a few hours....no lie....
for now on....right after I do an injection.....I'm taking 3 advils for a total of 600mg's of Ibuprofen...worked like a charm after the pain....so mabey it will help prevent it right after the injection!
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That's not a good habit. Ibuprofin is hard on your liver. If you're going to harsh your liver, do it with dbols. ;)
Also, I disagree about not changing the needle if you're going to withdraw and then re-inject. I say change it, but I'm probably just paranoid.
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That's not a good habit. Ibuprofin is hard on your liver. If you're going to harsh your liver, do it with dbols. ;)
Also, I disagree about not changing the needle if you're going to withdraw and then re-inject. I say change it, but I'm probably just paranoid.
I don't think a few ibuprofens a few days a week should be problem...especialy just while on cycle
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I don't think a few ibuprofens a few days a week should be problem...especialy just while on cycle
I find the first few injections of a cycle hurt more. Then after a few shots it doesnt hurt anymore. I dunno maybe the muscle gets used to it? I even get used to t400, after a few weeks on that the shots barely hurt, i find.
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i viewed this thread to see some fouled injection sites,you assholes dissapoint me >:(
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