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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Mad Nickels on March 09, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
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Before this Product even comes out I want to clear the air before we get a bah-zillion threads asking about it. MuscleTech have sunk to a new low, first with their NANO-X9 crap. And now this:
(http://gnc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pGNC1-3408795nm.jpg)
This shit retails for $80 (I guessed $70 and my store owner guessed $90).
Here are their claims:
WORLD'S 1ST DORMANT MUSCLE FIBER ACTIVATOR
* 83% More Muscle Fiber Activation*
* Triggers Untapped Human Growth Potential*
* Pharmacologically Engineered To Trigger Dormant Muscle Fiber Activation in 7 Days*
* Scientifically Researched In Over 30 Independent Studies
The Aplodan Advantage
Unlock Muscle Size and Strength
With Aplodan™, you now have in your hands the key to unlocking strength you never knew you had, and as a result, the ability to trigger more muscle growth than you ever thought possible. But to do it, you must understand the full power of Aplodan and how it tackles the single greatest problem holding you back from getting as big and as strong as possible - untapped dormant muscle fibers.*
Trigger Dormant Muscle Activation
In every bundle of muscle fibers within your body, you have several clusters of muscle fibers that are dormant, and don't materially function or contribute to improving muscle size. During a typical workout, you never actually stress you muscles enough to trigger growth in these dormant muscle fibers. But now, after utilizing years of research including clinical research at the University of Milan, Team MuscleTech™ has engineered Aplodan - the world's first and only dormant muscle fiber activator that allows you to increase muscle fiber activation by an average of 83%! It's the key to unlocking the potential for new muscle that's been locked away in your body for years!*
The Scientific Research Behind Aplodan
Over 30 independent studies have examined the multiple performance and ****bolic effects of the revolutionary Aplodan complex.* In just one of these studies, Aplodan was shown to increase stimulation for greater muscle fiber activation in as little as 7 days! To accurately measure the power of the Aplodan formula researchers used an isometric grip test (the widely accepted device used to measure raw power and strength). By the conclusion of the study subjects were able to achieve muscle tension thresholds that were 83% greater than baseline (1.74 vs. 3.18 mins.) proving Aplodan's potent effectiveness! In a separate battery of tests, sprinters taking Aplodan increased their speed/power by increments that would normally take years to develop! The bottom line is that Aplodan is the only supplement of its kind that gives you the ability to be strong enough in the gym to activate dormant muscle fibers!*
Rapid Delivery of Aplodan
Designed with a special rapid release technology, the Aplodan complex starts working quickly, as it drives itself inside your muscle fibers, affecting the internal ****bolic machinery for improved muscle fiber activation. Aplodan's unique molecular structure is designed to manipulate the ****bolic environment deep within muscle fibers, promoting activation, and subsequently allowing you to train with the type of intensity necessary to allow you to trigger the growth potential that lies within dormant muscle fibers.*
Aplodan Takes the Bodybuilding World by Storm!
As a supplement with an extremely impressive history, research backing, and human clinical trials to prove its potent effects, millions of bodybuilders everywhere are now educating themselves on dormant muscle fibers and how Aplodan is the first and best way to activate them. Right on the heels of the most popular group of supplements like naNOx9™, GAKIC®, LEUKIC™, and Anator-p70™, Aplodan is poised to be the biggest supplement to ever hit bodybuilding! Awaken the untapped muscular growth potential you have inside you right now and build massive size and strength the Aplodan way
Now in reading all of this hooplah my store owner asked "is there even really such a thing as high-intensity dormant muscle fibers?" So I consulted Rjkd12 (whose absence is due to actual lab work and finishing up some schooling) and this is what we came up with:
There are the type IIB muscle fibers that ARE dormant and can only be activated through strenuous activity and converted to type IIA. With a simple a statement as that do you see what MuscleTech is doing? They make a product that increases (let's give them the benefit of the doubt) the intensity at which you can train, boom, activate dormant muscle fibers.
So in reality, if high intensity exertion is B, and activating dormant muscle fibers is C, then B = C. Aplodan would be A when adding it in. So A = B = C.
MuscleTech is trying to get you to believe that A = C.
Simply put here's how Rj put it and how I will be saying it to customers who want to buy this shit:
"Put your finger to your forehead and press as hard as you possibly can. Right now as you're doing that you're activating high-intensity dormant muscle fibers. Give me $5 for giving you that information."
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Before this Product even comes out I want to clear the air before we get a bah-zillion threads asking about it. MuscleTech have sunk to a new low, first with their NANO-X9 crap. And now this:
(http://gnc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pGNC1-3408795nm.jpg)
This shit retails for $80 (I guessed $70 and my store owner guessed $90).
Here are their claims:
WORLD'S 1ST DORMANT MUSCLE FIBER ACTIVATOR
* 83% More Muscle Fiber Activation*
* Triggers Untapped Human Growth Potential*
* Pharmacologically Engineered To Trigger Dormant Muscle Fiber Activation in 7 Days*
* Scientifically Researched In Over 30 Independent Studies
The Aplodan Advantage
Unlock Muscle Size and Strength
With Aplodan™, you now have in your hands the key to unlocking strength you never knew you had, and as a result, the ability to trigger more muscle growth than you ever thought possible. But to do it, you must understand the full power of Aplodan and how it tackles the single greatest problem holding you back from getting as big and as strong as possible - untapped dormant muscle fibers.*
Trigger Dormant Muscle Activation
In every bundle of muscle fibers within your body, you have several clusters of muscle fibers that are dormant, and don't materially function or contribute to improving muscle size. During a typical workout, you never actually stress you muscles enough to trigger growth in these dormant muscle fibers. But now, after utilizing years of research including clinical research at the University of Milan, Team MuscleTech™ has engineered Aplodan - the world's first and only dormant muscle fiber activator that allows you to increase muscle fiber activation by an average of 83%! It's the key to unlocking the potential for new muscle that's been locked away in your body for years!*
The Scientific Research Behind Aplodan
Over 30 independent studies have examined the multiple performance and ****bolic effects of the revolutionary Aplodan complex.* In just one of these studies, Aplodan was shown to increase stimulation for greater muscle fiber activation in as little as 7 days! To accurately measure the power of the Aplodan formula researchers used an isometric grip test (the widely accepted device used to measure raw power and strength). By the conclusion of the study subjects were able to achieve muscle tension thresholds that were 83% greater than baseline (1.74 vs. 3.18 mins.) proving Aplodan's potent effectiveness! In a separate battery of tests, sprinters taking Aplodan increased their speed/power by increments that would normally take years to develop! The bottom line is that Aplodan is the only supplement of its kind that gives you the ability to be strong enough in the gym to activate dormant muscle fibers!*
Rapid Delivery of Aplodan
Designed with a special rapid release technology, the Aplodan complex starts working quickly, as it drives itself inside your muscle fibers, affecting the internal ****bolic machinery for improved muscle fiber activation. Aplodan's unique molecular structure is designed to manipulate the ****bolic environment deep within muscle fibers, promoting activation, and subsequently allowing you to train with the type of intensity necessary to allow you to trigger the growth potential that lies within dormant muscle fibers.*
Aplodan Takes the Bodybuilding World by Storm!
As a supplement with an extremely impressive history, research backing, and human clinical trials to prove its potent effects, millions of bodybuilders everywhere are now educating themselves on dormant muscle fibers and how Aplodan is the first and best way to activate them. Right on the heels of the most popular group of supplements like naNOx9™, GAKIC®, LEUKIC™, and Anator-p70™, Aplodan is poised to be the biggest supplement to ever hit bodybuilding! Awaken the untapped muscular growth potential you have inside you right now and build massive size and strength the Aplodan way
Now in reading all of this hooplah my store owner asked "is there even really such a thing as high-intensity dormant muscle fibers?" So I consulted Rjkd12 (whose absence is due to actual lab work and finishing up some schooling) and this is what we came up with:
There are the type IIB muscle fibers that ARE dormant and can only be activated through strenuous activity and converted to type IIA. With a simple a statement as that do you see what MuscleTech is doing? They make a product that increases (let's give them the benefit of the doubt) the intensity at which you can train, boom, activate dormant muscle fibers.
So in reality, if high intensity exertion is B, and activating dormant muscle fibers is C, then B = C. Aplodan would be A when adding it in. So A = B = C.
MuscleTech is trying to get you to believe that A = C.
Simply put here's how Rj put it and how I will be saying it to customers who want to buy this shit:
"Put your finger to your forehead and press as hard as you possibly can. Right now as you're doing that you're activating high-intensity dormant muscle fibers. Give me $5 for giving you that information."
Its been out for a while, I tryed it and it does absolutley zero.....
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Its been out for a while, I tryed it and it does absolutley zero.....
if we did a better job of teaching scientific reasoning and logic in our schools, you'd be able to just read the label and know that without having to part with your money.
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Dormant muscle fibers? ::)
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Dormant muslce fibers? ::)
= Bast's Calves
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= Bast's Calves
ahahahahahaha
jason
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well logically if A=B and B=C then A=C
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well logically if A=B and B=C then A=C
Im pretty sure thats an SAT question.
Jason
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I hear that Aplodan also causes HAPPINESS.
For those selling it at least...what a joke.
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Man, for $80 you got a low budget cycle.... what has the world come to!?
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who buys that crap?
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Man, for $80 you got a low budget cycle.... what has the world come to!?
haha thats right, i rather buy a bag full of ribeye steaks with that money
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haha i dont even read these promising words and super microfiltered whey amino peptide light speed absorption rate bs anymore when i buy a supplement (everytime i swear to myself its teh last one i buy), the times these bitches dissapointed me.
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Soon MuscleTech will advertise their stuff in a fashion pretty similar to this: "And they shall come a time of great muscular growth.....".
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Id rather spend my money on a half hour lapdance with a hot stripper.Scammers, thousands of teenage boys will buy this crap and ass raped. :P
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yeah i stick to whey and vits.
if theres a revolutionair new supplement it will be all over the forums, as long thats not happening you dont have to buy the crap.
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"Over 30 independent studies have examined the multiple performance and ****bolic effects of the revolutionary Aplodan complex."
This statement is patently false.
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The independant studies were run by:
-The janitor at MuscleTech's headquarters.
-The guy on the third floor who's job we haven't figured yet but who's on our payroll.
And so on and so on.....
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Even if this product has some effects on exercise performance one can get the same effects by simply ingesting a few grams of creatine monohydrate.
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Even if this product has some effects on exercise performance one can get the same effects by simply ingesting a few grams of creatine monohydrate.
No,
hope this helps.
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
exactly
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who buys that crap?
I got it for free, I would never buy it... I personally think its a suger pill.
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
I'd take lies over too much regulation though. I don't buy into the bullshit so I don't care.
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
that is not true at all but like anyone in that business they keep on taking bigger and bigger risks and soon bamn handcuffs come out, happened many many times
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Are you guys saying that you've lost all respect for the "stand-up athletes" that endorse these
magic beans :o
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
I just heard from someone at work that "Airborne" is being sued for false claims. Its a class action suit so we can all have a chunk!! ;D ;D
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The independant studies were run by:
-The janitor at MuscleTech's headquarters.
-The guy on the third floor who's job we haven't figured yet but who's on our payroll.
And so on and so on.....
what do ya got against cutting edge scientists wearing labcoats and with clipboards in hand?
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I just heard from someone at work that "Airborne" is being sued for false claims. Its a class action suit so we can all have a chunk!! ;D ;D
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=6785169
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I only buy products that make you feel like you imprisoned during the medevil times.. ::)
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http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=6785169
Well I hope theres only 23 people suing! Cus my ass want onnne million dooollaars! LOL
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THiS iS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUPP ADS. THEY CAN LIE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
Actually, the FDA forces them to put the famous warning down the label:
"These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to prevent, treat or cure any disease."
The thing is that the FDA has much bigger fish to fry. Supplements are inocuous, while pharmaceutical drugs can actually kill people if used innapropriately. The FDA has too many dangerous pharmaceuticals to evaluate for safety and effectiveness to care about supplements.
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Those scientists at muscletech really know their stuff!!! :D
(http://supplementsaus.com/muscletech_logo.jpg)
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"Hydroxycut® Hardcore was formulated by the brilliant scientific mind of the one and only Dr. Marvin Heuer. In his many years within the medical industry, Dr. Heuer researched and developed many products for several major pharmaceutical companies. But it was always his passion to create the highest quality sports nutrition supplements."
::)
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Snake Oil has and will always exist unfortunately. Not sure but would imagine no one has legally challenged "Muscletech"on their claims yet. Why would they its marketed towards Naive adolescence looking for the "ANABOLIC EDGE". No one with any degree of education would actually believe in their claims!!! I hope.
Until then "Muscletech" is lining allot of "Scientists" Pockets
X
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At least companies pay that Heuer guy a lot of $$$ (Btw, the stock plunged that month about 12 bucks per share [from 14 to 2]).
[Novavax Letterhead]
March 4, 2002
Marvin Arthur Heuer, MD
3324 W. University Ave., #151
Gainesville, FL 32607
Dear Marvin:
On behalf of Novavax, Inc. (the “Company”), I am pleased to offer you the position of Vice President of Scientific Affairs of the Company reporting to John Spears, President and CEO, subject to satisfactory reference checks. We are greatly looking forward to your joining the Company’s team.
Job Title: Vice President of Scientific Affairs
Start Date: March 4, 2002
Salary: $225,000 per year initially payable in accordance with the Company’s payroll policies in effect.
Bonus Program and Salary Increases: Dr. Heuer will be entitled to participate in the corporate bonus plan as already established or as altered from time to time by the corporate board of directors. Dr. Heuer would receive the same benefits as the major senior executives of the company. Bonuses would be based on performance criteria and milestones to be mutually determined by the Company and Dr. Heuer.
Stock Options: The Company will grant Dr. Heuer stock options in the amount of 75,000 shares of the Company’s Common Stock ($.01 par value) at an exercise price equal to the closing price on the date that the contract is signed and executed. The options will vest as to one-third of the shares on the first anniversary of the date of grant, as to an additional one-third of the shares on the second anniversary of the date of grant and as to the final one-third of the shares on the third anniversary of the date of grant; provided that all unvested options shall become vested in the event of a change in the control of the Company. Such a change in control of the Company could result in the sale of the Company or the purchase of the Company by another corporation. Change and control would also include situations where employment would still be offered to Dr. Heuer but the position of Vice President of Scientific Affairs would be greatly and significantly reduced. At such time all options that are unvested will become vested unless otherwise specified by the internal revenue code.
Benefits: The Company will provide medical and dental benefits, life insurance, and disability insurance in accordance with the Company’s policies in effect currently and as changed or improved from time to time. As of the date of this letter, the Company currently pays 100% of family coverage premium as provided by the Company’s group medical insurer, 100% of the
Mr. Marvin Heuer
February 28, 2002
Page two
premium for life insurance under the Company’s group life insurance plan and 100% of the premium for the company’s long-term disability insurance. The Company thus provides the medical and dental benefits.
Vacation: Dr. Heuer would be entitled to three weeks of vacation time during each year, calculated on a calendar year basis in accordance with the Company’s policies in effect from time to time.
Employment Requirements and Term: Dr. Heuer, upon complete review will sign the Company’s standard form of Non-Disclosure Agreement as a condition of employment by the Company. The term of this Agreement shall be a period beginning on March 4, 2002 and ending three years after initiation of this contract. The Company and Dr. Heuer will have the rights to mutually discuss any extension of this contract for longer periods of time.
Signing Payment: Dr. Heuer will be paid an amount of $50,000 upon signing and executing this contract.
Job Description: A full job description as agreed by Dr. Heuer and Mr. John Spears will be within a month of signing this document.
Satellite Office: The Company will authorize Dr. Heuer to maintain a research office in Florida. It is anticipated that Dr. Heuer will make regular trips between his office in or around Gainesville, Florida and the Company offices in or around Columbia, Maryland and other parts of the country. The Company will reimburse all of Dr. Heuer’s reasonable and customary travel expenses in this regard, including, but not limited to traveling and housing expenses. All expenses related to the satellite office will be covered by the Company under the research and development budget. It is expressly understood that Dr. Heuer is conducting research and owns a company, Clin Sci International in Gainesville, Florida. Dr. Heuer will be permitted to complete these ongoing research studies as long as they do not materially interfere with his work for Novavax. Financial contracts on these research studies will be deposited and remain the property of Clin Sci International, Inc. The satellite office can also be used for other research and development and for research projects in conjunction with Dr. Craig Wright and other Novavax staff as deemed appropriate.
Senior Officer Consideration: It is understood that the Company possibly will develop incentive plans for its most senior officers. Any such incentive plan, which is adopted, will treat Dr. Heuer as appropriate for someone in his position and corporate level of compensation.
Relocation: It is understood that relocation by Dr. Heuer to any other corporate office is not deemed necessary. If the parties however mutually agree that Dr. Heuer should at some time relocate to Columbia, Maryland (or another corporate location), the company will reimburse Dr. Heuer for all reasonable and customary moving expenses in an amount not to exceed $50,000.
Entire Agreement: This agreement sets forth the entire agreement and understanding between Dr. Heuer and the Company regarding all subjects covered herein, the terms of which may not be changed or modified except by agreement in writing signed by Dr. Heuer and the Company.
Severability: Should any provision of this agreement, or portion thereof, be found invalid and unenforceable, the remaining provisions shall continue in full force and effect.
Governing Law: This agreement shall be governed, construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of Delaware, without regard to principles of conflict of law.
Conflict: Dr. Heuer hereby acknowledges that he is not a party to any agreement that in any way prohibits or imposes any restriction on his employment with the Company, and his acceptance hereof will not breach any agreement to which he is a party.
By the signatures indicated below it is acknowledged that the parties accept this contract completely as written.
ACCEPTED:
/s/ Marvin A. Heuer 3/4/02
Marvin A. Heuer, M.D. Date
ACCEPTED:
/s/ John Spears 3/4/02
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Have you been fired by MD Manninen?
Its a little special to see a guy that is paid by muscletech, talk shit about his employer on a public forum. Muscletech is paying MD big bucks to advertise!
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Its a little special to see a guy that is paid by muscletech, talk shit about his employer on a public forum.
WTF? I have never worked for MuscleTech, and I dont think they are offering me a job any time soon. ;)
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Do you still work for MD?
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I really don't see the point in buying this kind of garbage.
If you're so passionate and want results, then why not just buy anabolic steroids?
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I really don't see the point in buying this kind of garbage.
If you're so passionate and want results, then why not just buy anabolic steroids?
They are illegal without a prescription in many countries ::)
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They are illegal without a prescription in many countries ::)
Surely if you're desperate enough to spend $100 on a bottle of rubbish, then you wouldn't mind breaking the law for some silly ideal.