it was barely visible that his left biceps and triceps were torn.
HE was in bad shape internally i believe ,i think he had a rupture in stomach and could barely hit his poses.
The torn left biceps is visible in the front double biceps - as it was since the 1994 Olympia -, but in ever other pose as well as from the sides when he does the quarter turn, you can't tell that either his left biceps or triceps were torn. So the lability is only in one pose.
Not only in the front double bi's, but you coudl not see his arms in the rear double-bi's either.
He looked mediocre in all front poses
I disagree. I couldn't tell that his left biceps/triceps were torn in the back double biceps or in the quarter turn from the sides.
His front lat spread was still clearly the best in the show, and he looked great in the abs-and-thighs for a 270 lbs man.
I disagree. I couldn't tell that his left biceps/triceps were torn in the back double biceps or in the quarter turn from the sides.
His front lat spread was still clearly the best in the show, and he looked great in the abs-and-thighs for a 270 lbs man.
Actually, in general he looked like shit in 97 (relative to a Mr. Olympia or a top contender of course). Not only in the front double bi's, but you coudl not see his arms in the rear double-bi's either. He looked very mediocre in all front poses. His waist had also grown tremendously by 97. His 97 victory redefined the word "gift" :)Nasser pulling out before depositing some baby batter in your mouth redefines the word "gift". ::)
They looked either torn or damn small - you can not see his biceps at all in the rear double biceps pose.
He looked very smooth in his frotn lat spread comparison to Nasser. I have yet to see his front ab-thigh comparison, but I doubt he looked better than Nasser in that pose either, as that was one of Nasser's signature poses.
They looked either torn or damn small - you can not see his biceps at all in the rear double biceps pose
He looked very smooth in his frotn lat spread comparison to Nasser.
I have yet to see his front ab-thigh comparison, but I doubt he looked better than Nasser in that pose either, as that was one of Nasser's signature poses.
Dorian never looked smooth compared to Nasser, even in the worst of shape Dorian was pretty dry and still had his grainy look. Nasser may of had better muscle seperation but he was never drier than Dorian.
Well, if you put yourself in Nasser's shoes for a moment (and not more than a minute for your own sake), try to feel how frustrating it is to be in your absolute best shape, something you've never achieved before and will never achieve again and have to fight toe to toe with a guy who's on the verge of retiring as injuries have taken their toll on him. Even if he had been rewarded, that wouldn't have said much about him beeing better than Yates.
I never said Nasser didnt deserve to win, I think he did. Dorian shouldn't of been champion that night, should of gone to Shawn or Nasser.
Nasser pulling out before depositing some baby batter in your mouth redefines the word "gift". ::)
Dorian never looked smooth compared to Nasser, even in the worst of shape Dorian was pretty dry and still had his grainy look. Nasser may of had better muscle seperation but he was never drier than Dorian.
No, neither his triceps nor his biceps look torn in the back double biceps or from the sides when he does the quarter turns.
Very original, intelligent reply. ::)Almost as original and predictable as you or one of the other Muslim Mafia continually spewing your rhetoric about Teh Grate Huuuuuge Nasseeeeer.
Before Nasser's nuthuggers start coming in the masses, it's evident to any fair person that Dorian should have split his Olympia titles amongst Nasser, Levrone and Ray.
Here's a shot of Dorian getting owned at the 1995 Mr. Olympia.
I had several shots of his embarassing showing 96 as well, but can't find them.
For anyone who had doubts of the winner of 1995, watch this
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&q=1995+mr+olympia&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Its the prejudging and not only did Dorian win, he blew them off the stage.
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Thanks for the link - it actually casts more doubt on Yates' 95 victory :-\
ill give dorian his 92 and 93 olympia wins, anything after that were just plain olympia thefts.i was there in 95, yates was there clear winner.
I remember a comparison pic was posted before, maybe I can find it, of the front lat spread with Dorian and Nasser, and Nasser made Dorian look very smooth in that comparison - Yates had no muscle detail, striations, or vascularity in comparison.
Like I said, they looked either torn or damn small. So if they didn't look torn, they looked damn small. You could not even see his biceps from the rear double "biceps" pose.
i was there in 95, yates was there clear winner.
Here is Dorian posing at the 1997 Mr.Olympia. From watching the video, I understand why he won: it was barely visible that his left biceps and triceps were torn. Enjoy! :)he looks like a blob of shit from the waist up.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFwfmJRVDqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFwfmJRVDqY)
he still had an edge on these guys, considering that legs and back are still the biggest muscular groups even though people like to focus on arms, pecs and delts for stupid reasons.
Dorian's arms were never very big, so if you believe he should have lost because of that, then according to your logic he should never have won the Olympia.
As was I in '96 and he was the clear winner as well. When he turned around, people were laughing at how lopsided it was.
Back yes, but Dorian's legs lost to Nasser. Just look at the 95 pic above that Camel Jockey posted. and the discrepency grew even more by 97.
That's because his torso was so thick, and BOTH of his arms are small in comparison :-\
man how hideous is that.
his arms suck, his quads, and hams are shit. flat as a pancake there.
and waist is wide as hell. arms look absolutely horrendous in the front double bi, he loses that pose to everyone in that show, just horrible arms for a MR O
Before Nasser's nuthuggers start coming in the masses, it's evident to any fair person that Dorian should have split his Olympia titles amongst Nasser, Levrone and Ray.
97 was a classic example of BB politics and rewarding the wrong guy.
ill give dorian his 92 and 93 olympia wins, anything after that were just plain olympia thefts.
either way, a black guy would still NOT have won in 97, so why do you give a shit?
Well my cousin Abdul-Basit was there in 97, and he said Nasser was the clear winner. Abdul-Basit laughed at how lopsided it was!I saw him. He was the guy that was doing the chalk sidewalk art of Mohammed whilst lamenting his name and heritage.
Nasser was never as good as Dorian. His back was pathetic, his torso was too long and he was filled with oil
he looks like a blob of shit from the waist up.
I saw him. He was the guy that was doing the chalk sidewalk art of Mohammed whilst lamenting his name and heritage.
Well my cousin Abdul-Basit was there in 97, and he said Nasser was the clear winner. Abdul-Basit laughed at how lopsided it was!
that's the physique that ruined bodybuilding >:(
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I believe it, it was undoubtedly farcical in person, a joke. The amazing thing is the unquestioning acceptance of IFBB decisions by the guillible.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!!
Epic skinhead racism lol
lol that about sums it up.
Pic #37 of the keg being owned.
The truth.
The scary part is the sheer number of followers on getbig and elsewhere who don't acknowledge the behind the scenes contest BS involved with placings.
as much as i like nasser, you guys on this board think yates is the only bber who beat nasser.
when in reality - flex, shawn, and kevin routinely beat nasser despite weighing a good 50 lbs. less.
shawn beat nasser virtually everytime and weighed 85 lbs. less than nasser.
so, it wasn't only dorian who beat nasser.
The truth.
The scary part is the sheer number of followers on getbig and elsewhere who don't acknowledge the behind the scenes contest BS involved with placings.
During Nasser's prime, from the 95/96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic, Nasser had better overall placings than Levrone, Wheeler, or Ray.
Ray only lost to Nasser in 1995 because he was off, had he looked the same as 94 for example he would of beaten Nasser in 1995 quiet candidly.
As for the 1999 AC he barely beat Levrone and alot of people had Nasser losing, turned out in the scorecards that he actually had lost a round. This wasnt a dominant win by any means.
Levrone had beaten Nasser many more times than the other way around
As Earl would say, Nasser fans Levrowned once again 8)
During Nasser's prime, from the 95/96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic, Nasser had better overall placings than Levrone, Wheeler, or Ray.
actually, he didnt.
nasser won the 99 AC, but that's about it.
after 98, levrone, wheeler, and ray all placed better than nasser at the olympia.
also, after 97, levrone beat nasser 7 consecutives times on the euro tour.
owned.
During Nasser's prime, from the 95/96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic, Nasser had better overall placings than Levrone, Wheeler, or Ray
Great back and calves. Mediocre everything else.
Here's an ab-thigh comparison - someone earlier said that Yates had the best ab-thigh pose.
Learn to read. I said Nasser had the smaller waist, but Dorian had the better abdominals and the widest lats in this pose. Which is true.
He had a shitty 4 pack.
No, he had the best six-pack among the big bodybuilders by far.
What's your point? Dorian's abdominals are clearly more etched. Answer me this question: Are you denying that your preference for Nasser over Dorian has nothing to do with his ethnicity?
Great back and calves. Mediocre everything else.
No, he had the best six-pack among the big bodybuilders by far. And that includes Nasser, Jean-Pierre Fux and Ronnie. Is it a mere coincidence that every Arabian/Muslim guy in this board is choosing Nasser over Dorian? I think not.
Unbelievable difference in the delts, biceps, and triceps
Here's an ab-thigh comparison - someone earlier said that Yates had the best ab-thigh pose. ::)
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Dorian has wider lats there
How is that picture an 'ab-thigh' comparison yoo numpty?? You cant see their thighs , probably becos Dorians thighs are much better
I disagree. I couldn't tell that his left biceps/triceps were torn in the back double biceps or in the quarter turn from the sides.
His front lat spread was still clearly the best in the show, and he looked great in the abs-and-thighs for a 270 lbs man.
but in 96/97, when he turned and faced front, he got owned.
his back was still good though. but his arms (torn) were pretty bad from the back, as we can see.
Ofcourse you can tell they were torn. Just look at it. The bicep is non existent and the tricep is small and looks flat as hell. What pics are you looking at?
This pic is from straight on.
nasser would win the front double bi, mm, and maybe abs and thighs - everything else, yates.
The left arm is almost a carbon copy of the right arm. I can't tell that it's torn except on the front double biceps.
Regardless of one's ethnicity, only a blind man would say that Dorian's abs are better than Nasser's there.
Sure I share ethnicity with Nasser, but I can still admit that Dorian's back was wider - why can't you admit that Dorian's abs were worse
as well as thighs,
arms
delts
and waistline?
In 97 Dorian wins the rear lat spread and maybe the rear double bi's, every other pose Nasser wins.
CigaretteMan = Suckmymuscle
No, I am not. I've been reading through that truce thread, and my opinions and his have nothing in common. He thinks Dorian would win, while I have no favorites between the two, and if I were to judge them in the shapes I've seen them - 1996 Olympia for Dorian and 2000 for Coleman - I would give the nod to Ronnie no question about it. I never had an account here, and I am frankly surprised you assumed that given that our posts have nothing in common. If you don't believe, you can ask Ron Avidan and he will confirm there is only one account in this IP address.
Posting style, and use of anatomical terms for everyday words i.e. rectus abdominis instead of abs is strikingly similar to Sucky. It's also odd that you started posting here right when Sucky stopped posting. This thread also bears striking similarity to a thread started by sucky linking to a video of Dorian's masterful 1995 performance.
and England 1 = Probecito aka Pubes.
And BTW, where is that guy exactly ??? I just checked and his last activity here was December of last year. Although I disagree with most of what he says, I do think he makes some good points.
I believe he only had about 4000 posts.
And you only know this because I decided to let you know via my posting style ;)
Who's to say I don't have more accounts here? :-*
Retard.
no, it was not your "posting style"
it was your ass kissing and following of ND and the same retarded arguments that made it obvious to everyone :-*
Wow, Dorian is clearly destroying the competition on those videos, especially from the back. I'm officially a Dorian fan.
Lets put it this way, Dorian at his best destroys Nasser everytime and that is the bottom line.
Nope. I gave it away purposely on 1 exact post of mine: I called Pumpster a faggola. He will corroborate this claim (as well as the fact that he is indeed a f a g hahaha).
And you my friend are in no way, shape or form allowed to call someone an ass kisser LOL. You are the absolute biggest fucking guy on this site. That is irrefutable!
Priceless skinhead meltdown lol
And BTW, where is that guy exactly ??? I just checked and his last activity here was December of last year. Although I disagree with most of what he says, I do think he makes some good points.
The left arm is almost a carbon copy of the right arm. I can't tell that it's torn except on the front double biceps.
still want to fight me, sucky?stop buggin him, he's actually a cool guy nowl haven't seehim make one attack yet ;D
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stop buggin him, he's actually a cool guy nowl haven't seehim make one attack yet ;D
And 'Earl', u're only asking for an owning ::)
there is absolutely nothing racist about that comment.
your race card has expired.
so, lets get this straight? anyone that does not agree with you is a racist?
i bet you believe that michael vick was also set up.
typical.
He had a good back.. Shit arms and a bloated gut.
The left arm is almost a carbon copy of the right arm. I can't tell that it's torn except on the front double biceps.
So what if the pics discredit you lol
huh? are you denying Dorian at his all time best wouldn't beat Nasser?Only a moron would confuse 97 with "all time best" lol
Top notch idiot here folks
Only a moron would confuse 97 with "all time best" lol
That is precisely why it's so painful, isn'it? A guy hits his best ever and still can't really make it against another who's won it all, again and again I might add, and has already been going downhill for a while but still wins. And the controversy still goes on about that one special occasion where the sun could have shined on a dog's ass.
It's painful and embarassing for the "sport" as a whole when judges lose all credibility by awarding the Mr.Olympia title to a someone who is washed up, has a bloated-gut and no-arms just because he is the reigning champion and they dont want to embarass him by letting him retire while rightfully not winning his last Mr. Olympia contest.
Didn’t we agree that Nasser was suppose to be 3rd or 4th
Who is "we"? ::) Speak for yourself.
That is precisely why it's so painful, isn'it? A guy hits his best ever and still can't really make it against another who's won it all, again and again I might add, and has already been going downhill for a while but still wins. And the controversy still goes on about that one special occasion where the sun could have shined on a dog's ass.
It's painful and embarassing for the "sport" as a whole when judges lose all credibility by awarding the Mr.Olympia title to a someone who is washed up, has a bloated-gut and no-arms just because he is the reigning champion and they dont want to embarass him by letting him retire while rightfully not winning his last Mr. Olympia contest.
No one knew Yates was retiring in 1997 he actually retired at the 1998 Mr Olympia ( officially ) so they didn't give him a going away present because no one knew he was going away , Yates was optimistic he could have the triceps tendon reattached after the contest but that never came to fruition .
No one knew Yates was retiring in 1997 he actually retired at the 1998 Mr Olympia ( officially ) so they didn't give him a going away present because no one knew he was going away , Yates was optimistic he could have the triceps tendon reattached after the contest but that never came to fruition .
I'm sorry but this is pure bollocks.
How can you say no one knew?
Who's no one?
Joe public.
What about joe weider?
Are you actually believing that yates shocked everyone, weiders included by his retirement.
still want to fight me, sucky?
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No one knew Yates was retiring in 1997 he actually retired at the 1998 Mr Olympia ( officially ) so they didn't give him a going away present because no one knew he was going away , Yates was optimistic he could have the triceps tendon reattached after the contest but that never came to fruition .
he would have been better off to screw the reattachment and just get both arms amputated.
8)
why?
with arms like this, no need.
ronnie cant touch yates in this pose - arms included.
owned.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy187.jpg)
Arnold bashing Yates.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=205489.msg2832599#msg2832599
he looks disgusting. a horrible, tattooed and convicted racist. a real stain on bodybuilding and insult to other people like Nasser El Sonbaty who beat him fair and square. iroic that people wrongly acuse nasser of synthol when you can see that levrone is full of it in hos arms and shoulders.
Yates is a fraud and peice of shit imo
he looks disgusting. a horrible, tattooed and convicted racist
what does that picture prove nothing at all. he only gave it up when news of racist past surfaced. he went to prison for racial violence and was known as racist in prison. he has racist tattooes of bulldogs and was a member of an English racist organization called the National FrontYou have no proof.
I'm sorry but this is pure bollocks.
How can you say no one knew?
Who's no one?
Joe public.
What about joe weider?
Are you actually believing that yates shocked everyone, weiders included by his retirement.
No going away present needed-see Columbu '76 and '81.
Yet Ronnie didn't get one in 2006? or 2007? you'll always be trapped in this logic because you claims everyone is the recipient of gifts with the exception of Coleman
he looks disgusting. a horrible, tattooed and convicted racist. a real stain on bodybuilding and insult to other people like Nasser El Sonbaty who beat him fair and square. iroic that people wrongly acuse nasser of synthol when you can see that levrone is full of it in hos arms and shoulders.
Yates is a fraud and peice of shit imo
lol that about sums it up. Other more deserving BBs denied repeatedly after much hard work.