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WTF??! German schools are going to have classes on Islamic Religion in German???? Disapoiting!!!!! Instead of deport all muslims fuckers, they are going to give them free classes.... >:(
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WTF??! German schools are going to have classes on Islamic Religion in German???? Disapoiting!!!!! Instead of deport all muslims fuckers, they are going to give them free classes.... >:(
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Schuldgefuehle und Vergangengheitsbewaeltig ung.....
It's always like that there. They feel they have to atone for WWII and the sins of their ancestors by tolerating every piece of ludicrous nonsense thrown at them...Germany is turning into a shithole... :-\
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Schuldgefuehle und Vergangengheitsbewaeltig ung.....
It's always like that there. They feel they have to atone for WWII and the sins of their ancestors by tolerating every piece of ludicrous nonsense thrown at them...Germany is turning into a shithole... :-\
It is happening all over Europe and I simply hate it! I read an very intereting article saying that 100 years from now Europe will have more non-christian population than european natives. You are right... EUROPE wants to become like USA and Brazil, gigantic multiracial shitholes... >:( >:( >:(
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Neither Germany nor the US are shitholes, this is just a vast exaggeration.
Regarding Islamic classes, I am against religion in schools alltogether. If religious fundamentalists think that religious education in schools is important, it is hard to argue that this should only apply to christian religion.
And what exactly should be done against the spreading of islamic population? As long as muslims have a higher birth rate than non-muslims (and we assume that their children will always inherit islamic faith) it doesn't matter how many people are of islamic faith in a country at a certain time, they will always be in the majority over the long run. So the options we have are:
- Religious cleansing (killing or deporting all muslims)
- Birth rate control (laws to increase non-muslim birth rate and/or decrease muslim birth rate)
- Separating children from their islamic parents and brain wash them to convert e.g. to christianity
Other than that, we can only use the method of democracy: appealing to reason.
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Neither Germany nor the US are shitholes, this is just a vast exaggeration.
Regarding Islamic classes, I am against religion in schools alltogether. If religious fundamentalists think that religious education in schools is important, it is hard to argue that this should only apply to christian religion.
And what exactly should be done against the spreading of islamic population? As long as muslims have a higher birth rate than non-muslims (and we assume that their children will always inherit islamic faith) it doesn't matter how many people are of islamic faith in a country at a certain time, they will always be in the majority over the long run. So the options we have are:
- Religious cleansing (killing or deporting all muslims)
- Birth rate control (laws to increase non-muslim birth rate and/or decrease muslim birth rate)
- Separating children from their islamic parents and brain wash them to convert e.g. to christianity
Other than that, we can only use the method of democracy: appealing to reason.
Reason and Islam are paradoxes in and of themselves....
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Debussey also can't believe how much energy people waste thinking about all of these mentally constructed problems like "Islamic takeover, and "ohh no, they are having an islamic class in school yada yada yada"", when humanity = facing much bigger problems like using up the natural resources, pollution, overpopulation, undetected asteroids hitting earth (a real big problem), fuckups of the ozone layer, new deseases and future pandemics and so on.
Why are people spending a lot of time being paranoid about percieved problems with no real backing in hard facts, while there are problems out there facing humanity that can be the end of civilization if not adressed? -> Humans = flawed beyond belief. Not much is being done to fix these real issues, partially because we're all hung up in paranoia about things that poses little threat compared to a lot of other things.. Hell, the chances of you being injured in a car crash or getting some kind of disease are are thousands to millions of times bigger than the risk of an "Islamic takeover" of any kind, yet millions of people today are obsessing over the least probable alternative.
Agreed. Homo sapiens is doomed.
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Excellent posts Debussey!
I just wanted to show the absurdity of possible means to stop a muslim takeover, if it would actually take place. Appealing to reason for me means that muslims will understand that the reasons, why western countries are not shitholes, are democracy, free speach and freedom of choice.
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Excellent posts Debussey!
I just wanted to show the absurdity of possible means to stop a muslim takeover, if it would actually take place. Appealing to reason for me means that muslims will understand that the reasons, why western countries are not shitholes, are democracy, free speach and freedom of choice.
99% of all species that have ever lived is now extinct.
Whether through our own doing or external forces, homo sapiens will not be an exception.
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Debussey does not agree. (humans = the only ones with the intelligence to perhaps avoid extinction btw)
Most of the humans living today = might die. They are simply not intelligent enough to deal with the issues we are facing, and with the improvement of technology, they will be obsolete in the production of needed merchandise while consuming scarce resources and with a replicating rate way beyond what this earth can deal with.
What might happen is that certain humans either learn to "upgrade" themselves while leveraging technology, thereby surviving and thriving, or that humanity itself deals with the issues by issuing a global form of birth control or something.
Debussey believes that if many parts of humanity will die out, it will be the ones with the lowest intelligence and least means. And face it, this is evolution in its best form. The goal is for humanity to continue to exist, and letting the weak survive won't let that happen.
Its pretty fantastic that 50% or more of the population in the west has an IQ below 100. A person with an IQ below 100 - 110 = might not in most cases be genetically equipped to deal with the complexity that needs to be understood to be a real responsible humaniod that can deal with the problems of the future. Most 3rd world people for example are lost in internal battles of religious nature or battles of similar nature, and they are simply not contributing anything to the continuous survival of mankind. In the process they are using up resources, and as mentioned, their birth rates are stupifyingly high.
Humanity will probably survive, but it might only be its most intelligent visionaries and the ones willing to use technology, and this should be the only way. Given that a bunch of retards = the only ones that survives, then humanity is doomed, because these people are not mentally equipped to deal with problems like asteroids smashing earth ++++
The future of mankind belongs to the ultra intelligent "super version" of humans with a great command of technology. This race of "super humans" will probably become a reality once the science of genetics becomes sufficiently advanced.
To put it into perspective: Most of the great advancements the human race has ever achieved, has come from single people with great brainpower and/or great discipline. These people have been dependant on "normal" people to achieve their advancements, because "normal people" have sustained the society they have functioned in by producing the needed stuff needed to sustain and grow the society.
In 30 - 40 years from now, technology can probably do most of this work, and with the added challenges of humanity, more super minds are needed, while the "normal" to "sub-normal" person unfortunately becomes somewhat obsolete in the sustainement of society. And since these people replicate, and consume resources the earth can not supply, they future might belong to the "enhanched humanoid".
Life survives by adapting to the surroundings. This is probably how humans will adapt. By upgrading themselves, and collectively understand and agree upon what is needed to survive and thrive, while weeding out sub-optimal elements in the humaniod population.
Gary Busey will be the leader of it all of course.
Different scenarios can of course become true, but they are dependant on technological advancements and improvement on the individual level.
A good deal of them on Getbig.... ;D
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What you want to say is exactly what Hitler had in mind... the weakest race must be controlled or eliminated in order to progress to happen. That is the law of nature, you only need the inferior to serve you, but for that to happen they must be controlled.
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When the sun goes Red Dwarf, NO ONE is going to survive...and that's a fact.
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That is so far into the future, that a hyper-intelligent life form might have figured out ways to survive, probably by getting the hell out of this solar system :)
Hypothetically possible, however very unlikely.
Read the book, The Physics of Startrek. It's a bit dated (more than a decade old) but it is relevant to the topic at hand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_physics_of_star_trek
No known life form could survive long enough to make an interstellar journey, crossing solar systems. Such a crossing would require many human lifetimes. This is just one example of an obstacle. Still we have 3 billion+ years before our sun goes red dwarf so we have time. I am betting on an external extinction though, which will likely occur many millions of years prior to that and in any event everyone alive today will be dead in a few decades so why worry too much about it.
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I didn't read the hole thread but wasn't there some stuff about how Germany had to adobt some sort of very liberal immigration policy and allow in large ethnic populations after WWII. Is this maybe part of the same line of demands on Germany? I dunno?
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Germans have become push overs, theyre all has beens.
They have to be very liberal and multiracial to try and "make up" for WWII, thats y u see Germany letting in so many Turks in who just come in and go on the benefit and the teaching of Islam in schools yadayadaya.
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I didn't read the hole thread but wasn't there some stuff about how Germany had to adobt some sort of very liberal immigration policy and allow in large ethnic populations after WWII. Is this maybe part of the same line of demands on Germany? I dunno?
Germans have a whole word to cover all of this bullshit: Vergangenheitsbewaeltigu ng...google it and you will understand.
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Germans have a whole word to cover all of this bullshit: Vergangenheitsbewaeltigu ng...google it and you will understand.
But so does this Vergangenheitsbewaeltigu ng fit into the context of this issue? If so it has a different layout when asking WTF is Germany doing. They may be doing what they're mandated to do? again, I dunno on this issue...
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But so does this Vergangenheitsbewaeltigu ng fit into the context of this issue? If so it has a different layout when asking WTF is Germany doing. They may be doing what they're mandated to do? again, I dunno on this issue...
Vergangenheitsbewaeltigu ng is Germany's attempt to reconcile its past with its present. They have never gotten over it, consequently they never, ever say bad stuff about other people for fear of being labeled a Nazi. That's it in a nutshell.
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I think that is about time for that great nation that is Germany to overcome that WWII bullshit! Germany should lead Europe to become once again the main continent with strict policies regarding imigration, spread once again our outstanding culture, put a break on USA's globalization policies and pressure the countries that produce oil in order to obtain economical stability. The problem with oil prices is not only a bad American foreign political strategy, as it is the lack of afirmation from Europe.
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Hypothetically possible, however very unlikely.
Read the book, The Physics of Startrek. It's a bit dated (more than a decade old) but it is relevant to the topic at hand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_physics_of_star_trek
No known life form could survive long enough to make an interstellar journey, crossing solar systems. Such a crossing would require many human lifetimes. This is just one example of an obstacle. Still we have 3 billion+ years before our sun goes red dwarf so we have time. I am betting on an external extinction though, which will likely occur many millions of years prior to that and in any event everyone alive today will be dead in a few decades so why worry too much about it.
Interesting discussion! Check this out:
Kurzweil is also an enthusiastic advocate of using technology to achieve immortality. He advocates using nanobots to maintain the human body, but given their present non-existence he adheres instead to a strict daily routine involving ingesting "250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea" to extend his life until more effective technology is available.[30]
Futurism, as a philosophical or academic study, looks at the medium to long-term future in an attempt to predict based on current trends. Raymond Kurzweil states his belief that the future of humanity is being determined by an exponential expansion of knowledge, and that the very rate of the change of this exponential growth is driving our collective destiny irrespective of our narrow sightedness, clinging archaisms, or fear of change. Our biological evolution, according to Kurzweil, is on the verge of being superseded by our technological evolution.
MORE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil#Transhumanism
Arguably, Kurzweil gained a large amount of credibility as a futurist from his first book The Age of Intelligent Machines. Written from 1986 to 1989 and published in 1990, it correctly forecast the demise of the Soviet Union (1991) as new technologies such as cellular phones and fax machines critically disempowered authoritarian governments by removing state control over the flow of information. In the book Kurzweil also extrapolated preexisting trends in the improvement of computer chess software performance to predict correctly that computers would beat the best human players by 1998, and most likely in that year. In fact, the event occurred in May 1997 when chess World Champion Gary Kasparov was defeated by IBM's Deep Blue computer in a well-publicized chess tournament. Perhaps most significantly, Kurzweil foresaw the explosive growth in worldwide Internet use that began in the 1990s. At the time of the publication of The Age of Intelligent Machines, there were only 2.6 million Internet users in the world,[32] and the medium was unreliable, difficult to use, and deficient in content, making Kurzweil's realization of its future potential especially prescient given the technology's limitations at that time. He also stated that the Internet would explode not only in the number of users but in content as well, eventually granting users access "to international networks of libraries, data bases, and information services" (such as Wikipedia). Additionally, Kurzweil correctly foresaw that the preferred mode of Internet access would inevitably be through wireless systems, and he was also correct to estimate that the latter would become practical for widespread use in the early 21st century....MORE:
Accuracy of predictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil#Accuracy_of_predictions
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Interesting discussion! Check this out:
Kurzweil is also an enthusiastic advocate of using technology to achieve immortality. He advocates using nanobots to maintain the human body, but given their present non-existence he adheres instead to a strict daily routine involving ingesting "250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea" to extend his life until more effective technology is available.[30]
Futurism, as a philosophical or academic study, looks at the medium to long-term future in an attempt to predict based on current trends. Raymond Kurzweil states his belief that the future of humanity is being determined by an exponential expansion of knowledge, and that the very rate of the change of this exponential growth is driving our collective destiny irrespective of our narrow sightedness, clinging archaisms, or fear of change. Our biological evolution, according to Kurzweil, is on the verge of being superseded by our technological evolution.
MORE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil#Transhumanism
Arguably, Kurzweil gained a large amount of credibility as a futurist from his first book The Age of Intelligent Machines. Written from 1986 to 1989 and published in 1990, it correctly forecast the demise of the Soviet Union (1991) as new technologies such as cellular phones and fax machines critically disempowered authoritarian governments by removing state control over the flow of information. In the book Kurzweil also extrapolated preexisting trends in the improvement of computer chess software performance to predict correctly that computers would beat the best human players by 1998, and most likely in that year. In fact, the event occurred in May 1997 when chess World Champion Gary Kasparov was defeated by IBM's Deep Blue computer in a well-publicized chess tournament. Perhaps most significantly, Kurzweil foresaw the explosive growth in worldwide Internet use that began in the 1990s. At the time of the publication of The Age of Intelligent Machines, there were only 2.6 million Internet users in the world,[32] and the medium was unreliable, difficult to use, and deficient in content, making Kurzweil's realization of its future potential especially prescient given the technology's limitations at that time. He also stated that the Internet would explode not only in the number of users but in content as well, eventually granting users access "to international networks of libraries, data bases, and information services" (such as Wikipedia). Additionally, Kurzweil correctly foresaw that the preferred mode of Internet access would inevitably be through wireless systems, and he was also correct to estimate that the latter would become practical for widespread use in the early 21st century....MORE:
Accuracy of predictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil#Accuracy_of_predictions
I know of Kurzweil. Loco, I thought you were a Jebus Freak? ???
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I know of Kurzweil. Loco, I thought you were a Jebus Freak? ???
What, a Jebus...Jesus Freak can't be a man of science too? ;)
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What, a Jebus...Jesus Freak can't be a man of science too? ;)
Not really. It can be done but only through a compartmentalisation of the mind and a dichotomising of the your beliefs. It is not very consistent.
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Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung is Germany's attempt to reconcile its past with its present. They have never gotten over it, consequently they never, ever say bad stuff about other people for fear of being labeled a Nazi. That's it in a nutshell.
that didn't answer my question?
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that didn't answer my question?
How so? ???
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How so? ???
Well, you point out they have a big long word for this whole past guilt thing. I asked if this issue is a mandated policy for Germany. It didn't answer the question at all. I'm wanting to know if this is something Germany is doing by itself or if this is some mandated expectation of Germany? I really don't know.
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Well, you point out they have a big long word for this whole past guilt thing. I asked if this issue is a mandated policy for Germany. It didn't answer the question at all. I'm wanting to know if this is something Germany is doing by itself or if this is some mandated expectation of Germany? I really don't know.
Put it this way...if you were to say Sieg Heil on a large public street in Berlin you would be arrested...
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Put it this way...if you were to say Sieg Heil on a large public street in Berlin you would be arrested...
Yea I know. They even were able to have an American extradited from Nebraska for selling Nazi stuff. I guess someone in Germany bought something and when they asked to have him sent over, we said fine, take him. So what you're are saying is that Germany has no choice? That these things are requirements placed on Germany like the immigration thing after WWII? That was my question, I wanted to know if the issue in the first post was something they HAVE to do vs. something they just came up with.
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Yea I know. They even were able to have an American extradited from Nebraska for selling Nazi stuff. I guess someone in Germany bought something and when they asked to have him sent over, we said fine, take him. So what you're are saying is that Germany has no choice? That these things are requirements placed on Germany like the immigration thing after WWII? That was my question, I wanted to know if the issue in the first post was something they HAVE to do vs. something they just came up with.
Sure there is choice and there are some hardliners in parlament but the bottom line is that there may as well be NO CHOICE because if that choice is exercised then the Nazi Card is put on the table...that's basically it.
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Hypothetically possible, however very unlikely.
Read the book, The Physics of Startrek. It's a bit dated (more than a decade old) but it is relevant to the topic at hand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_physics_of_star_trek
No known life form could survive long enough to make an interstellar journey, crossing solar systems. Such a crossing would require many human lifetimes. This is just one example of an obstacle. Still we have 3 billion+ years before our sun goes red dwarf so we have time. I am betting on an external extinction though, which will likely occur many millions of years prior to that and in any event everyone alive today will be dead in a few decades so why worry too much about it.
In the late 1800's the concensus was that all was known about physics. People have been saying forever that things are impossible, and most often (given enough time) they are proven wrong. I am loth to make predictions about human ingenuity. I cannot invent something earth-shatteringly innovative myself, hence I cannot envisage someone else doing it either. But that's where I go wrong, as I am then implying I am the pinnacle of mental development. Unfortunately I'm not. :(
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WTF??! German schools are going to have classes on Islamic Religion in German???? Disapoiting!!!!! Instead of deport all muslims fuckers, they are going to give them free classes.... >:(
I definitely think it should be an obligation for every school system to teach each and everyone about all bigger world religions.
Knowledge is power, and also allows you to discard nonsense. Such as Islam.
I think it's pure bullshit what some school systems do, like the Iranian eg, and preach about one religion (in that case, Islam) as more true than others.
Or like some Christian schools do, where they try to teach their students that Christianity is the supreme religion.
Plenty of other examples, there are Jew schools too.
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I definitely think it should be an obligation for every school system to teach each and everyone about all bigger world religions.
Knowledge is power, and also allows you to discard nonsense. Such as Islam.
I think it's pure bullshit what some school systems do, like the Iranian eg, and preach about one religion (in that case, Islam) as more true than others.
Or like some Christian schools do, where they try to teach their students that Christianity is the supreme religion.
Plenty of other examples, there are Jew schools too.
Well, I don't think you understand the consequences.
Schools will teach in a non-critical manner, even pro-islam which is displayed in schools across Europe.
Will kids really get a comprehensive teaching of the religions?
Will CORE concepts like jihad and the biography of muhammad REALLY be taught? No.
Get real Hedge.
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Well, I don't think you understand the consequences.
Schools will teach in a non-critical manner, even pro-islam which is displayed in schools across Europe.
Will kids really get a comprehensive teaching of the religions?
Will CORE concepts like jihad and the biography of muhammad REALLY be taught? No.
Get real Hedge.
When looking back on how Islam was taught in high school, the only thing I think could've been mentioned some more, was the age of his wives.
But other than that, we went through the historical person that Muhammed was fairly well.
How Muhammed kept slaves, how he was a polygamist, a warlord, et al.
All was covered.
I think it's very important that as many as possible read the Koran, only then is it possible to start to renounce Islam.
You can't have Christian Conservatives lashing out at the Muslims either. That will only lead to a war of the religions.
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I definitely think it should be an obligation for every school system to teach each and everyone about all bigger world religions.
Knowledge is power, and also allows you to discard nonsense. Such as Islam.
I think it's pure bullshit what some school systems do, like the Iranian eg, and preach about one religion (in that case, Islam) as more true than others.
Or like some Christian schools do, where they try to teach their students that Christianity is the supreme religion.
Plenty of other examples, there are Jew schools too.
Hedge... some people just don't get it... I understand your point of view but it is pure utopia... Muslims will always be an erratic, problematic, no solution people... leting them stay in Europe is the same the deliver them all that is ours, like culture...
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When looking back on how Islam was taught in high school, the only thing I think could've been mentioned some more, was the age of his wives.
But other than that, we went through the historical person that Muhammed was fairly well.
How Muhammed kept slaves, how he was a polygamist, a warlord, et al.
All was covered.
I think it's very important that as many as possible read the Koran, only then is it possible to start to renounce Islam.
You can't have Christian Conservatives lashing out at the Muslims either. That will only lead to a war of the religions.
You think that is going to be discussed with classes comprising more and more of muslim students in Europe?
Political correctness is and will ruin us. A non-appeasing education on islam will no longer exist in religious education, and didn't even since I was at school.
I agree, know thy enemy, but what we're being taught in class these days is a false appeasing side of the story of how wonderful multiculturalism is etc. etc.
Mickey Mouse, keep smoking the crack pipe *(fashioned out of a petrified hollow swede)!
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Hedge... some people just don't get it... I understand your point of view but it is pure utopia... Muslims will always be an erratic, problematic, no solution people... leting them stay in Europe is the same the deliver them all that is ours, like culture...
No problem with letting them into Europe.
I think it is a great idea.
But only if they are willing to be a part of European culture, equality, and traditions.
Ask the refugees coming here if they're willing to accept that deal.
If not, they gotta shop around for somewhere else to stay.
You see where the problem is?
It's not so a problem with allowing Muslims into Europe.
But rather with apologetic multi-culti huggers like jaguar who supports Iran, China and other dictatures because they're anti-USA.
These spineless fecal matters spoils any possibility of putting demands on refugees and immigrants coming into Europe.
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But only if they are willing to be a part of European culture, equality, and traditions.
Ask the refugees coming here if they're willing to accept that deal.
I agree on that one. Problem is, they can always lie. In the end you will not be able to keep a certain religion out of your country, except if you choose to run it in a totalitarian way.
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It's not so a problem with allowing Muslims into Europe.
islamic "culture" is and has shown that it's impervious to change; therefore I disagree with your statement.
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What? Islam is religion of peace. I kill you.
haha exactly!
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islamic "culture" is and has shown that it's impervious to change; therefore I disagree with your statement.
On a slightly different note,
I think a problem with Christians not having thorough knowledge of Islam make them vulnerable.
As you wrote, know thy enemy.
When you know about Islam, you won't be frightened by the radicals and coerced into the type of Modus Operandi George W Bush is/was into. But rather focus on pointing out what is actually written in the Koran.
The Islam-huggers like jaguar and Proteinfarts are defenceless when you stick with the facts.
Also, a big problem today is that many who are against Islam, don't know jack shit about the religion. Some of them are low life scums, racists and neo-nazists.
Here is really my focal point:
As long as the ignorant extremists are allowed a monopoly on the anti Islamic point of view, there is little room for real improvement.
Many of these groups are not only extremists, but also racists and anti-democratic.
That is the real problem for the anti-Islamic movement today.
It has to remove the ignorant bastards, to get rid of the racists, the anti-democratic elements, the anti-intellectuals.
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On a slightly different note,
I think a problem with Christians not having thorough knowledge of Islam make them vulnerable.
As you wrote, know thy enemy.
When you know about Islam, you won't be frightened by the radicals and coerced into the type of Modus Operandi George W Bush is/was into. But rather focus on pointing out what is actually written in the Koran.
The Islam-huggers like jaguar and Proteinfarts are defenceless when you stick with the facts.
Also, a big problem today is that many who are against Islam, don't know jack shit about the religion. Some of them are low life scums, racists and neo-nazists.
Here is really my focal point:
As long as the ignorant extremists are allowed a monopoly on the anti Islamic point of view, there is little room for real improvement.
Many of these groups are not only extremists, but also racists and anti-democratic.
That is the real problem for the anti-Islamic movement today.
It has to remove the ignorant bastards, to get rid of the racists, the anti-democratic elements, the anti-intellectuals.
It's know thine enemy. The archaic possessive pronoun of the second person singular changes form slightly in anticipation of the vowel which follows.
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WTF??! German schools are going to have classes on Islamic Religion in German???? Disapoiting!!!!! Instead of deport all muslims fuckers, they are going to give them free classes.... >:(
A very good thing to happen!!!
Far better to have the muslim scum to learn about their religion in GERMAN in SCHOOLS than in some shabby backstreet apartment in arabic by some 70 year old goatfucker that comes from a pisspoor muslim village where they don't even have electricity.
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WTF??! German schools are going to have classes on Islamic Religion in German???? Disapoiting!!!!! Instead of deport all muslims fuckers, they are going to give them free classes.... >:(
Don't let the Muslims set the agenda.
If you let Islamists preach the word of the Koran without a critical perspective, you will have people like ProteinFarts growing up and becoming extremely uncritical of anything Muslim.
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Don't let the Muslims set the agenda.
If you let Islamists preach the word of the Koran without a critical perspective, you will have people like ProteinFarts growing up and becoming extremely uncritical of anything Muslim.
Come on, who are you kidding? In the EU's climate this is NOT a possibility.