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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Tom on March 18, 2008, 03:26:51 PM
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okay besides the always mentioned "jaw inducing/increasing in size" gh affect. does anyone care to speak of if they know for a fact of any other health problems jay might be experiencing?
from the outside he still looks fairly healthy ( minus the offseason facial bloating of course). but surely he has to be taking meds for various conditions that are not apparent on the outside,yes?
does jay go for frequent and thorough doctor visits to monitor his heart, cholesterol, blood level, the condition of his internal organs,etcetera?
with all of the "stuff" jay has taken seemingly non stop for well over a decade now, he at least seems to be healthy? perhaps no one including jay will know the effects if any in future when he's in his 40's, 50's and beyond?
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You seem to really like Jay Cutler.
Hi Jay?
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You seem to really like Jay Cutler.
Hi Jay?
Ha ha. :)
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It's Jay's business.
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Jay Cutler is Mr. Olympia. So he is probably the most phenomenal athlete on the planet right now. How could such an elite athlete have health problems? ???
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Jay Cutler is Mr. Olympia. So he is probably the most phenomenal athlete on the planet right now. How could such an elite athlete have health problems? ???
LMAO...."athlete".
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Jay Cutler is Mr. Olympia. So he is probably the most phenomenal athlete on the planet right now. How could such an elite athlete have health problems? ???
HAHAHAHAhahahahahaha
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HAHAHAHAhahahahahaha
What? Mr. Olympia is supposed to be the epitome of the healthy human male. Am I wong?
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It's Jay's business.
In a twisted sort of way, it's our business too.
If Jay is continuously using AAS to win BBing contests and/or remain in the public eye due to BBing publications etc...then he's doing that so WE THE FANS keep buying his stuff.
If he stopped use because he would "pull a Tom Prince," then he would shrink up and nobody would be buying his merchandise anymore. So he has to do whatever he's doing, so the fans keep him in the public eye.
It's sick...and if he's not healthy he really should stop to get better.
It's not our business, but kind of sort of is. Like Joe Theisman breaking his leg and ending his career on Monday Night Football years back. It wasn't our business, but it was on TV and we all watched it till we almost puked because his bone was protruding through his leg so many times thanks to instant replay. :D
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It's Jay's business.
Correct.
I am not pro or con steroids, but...
EVERY Mr. Olympia is currently alive and (apparently) well.
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Jay's sides are terrible..the acro is incredible imagine the growth of his heart and intestines...all irrreversible....wait till he comes down...huge jay wide waist and no muscle...never think it will happen though JAY can't hack being below 270 or so...
Jay uses Gh year round upwards of 10 ius a day enormous amounts..it affects everything from the pancreas and blood sugar to thyroid and the pituatary and stress hormones from the adrenals...
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Jay's sides are terrible..the acro is incredible imagine the growth of his heart and intestines...all irrreversible....wait till he comes down...huge jay wide waist and no muscle...never think it will happen though JAY can't hack being below 270 or so...
Jay uses Gh year round upwards of 10 ius a day enormous amounts..it affects everything from the pancreas and blood sugar to thyroid and the pituatary and stress hormones from the adrenals...
maybe taking Muscletech products negate all (or some) of those side effects?
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Jay's sides are terrible..the acro is incredible imagine the growth of his heart and intestines...all irrreversible....wait till he comes down...huge jay wide waist and no muscle...never think it will happen though JAY can't hack being below 270 or so...
Jay uses Gh year round upwards of 10 ius a day enormous amounts..it affects everything from the pancreas and blood sugar to thyroid and the pituatary and stress hormones from the adrenals...
he already said he will be happy to be 220 lbs when he retires, what the fuck do you people sit there and dream shit up in your head?
where do you get jay cannot hack being below 270 when he said many times hes much happier walking around at 220?
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he already said he will be happy to be 220 lbs when he retires, what the fuck do you people sit there and dream shit up in your head?
where do you get jay cannot hack being below 270 when he said many times hes much happier walking around at 220?
if that's the case he do a levrone and drop down to 220 and then blow back up for the o.
what's the difference he's a fat fk now...in the offseason...these guys can't take to be smalll
it's called an opinion asshole
you have your biased one and
i have mine based on facts
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if that's the case he do a levrone and drop down to 220 and then blow back up for the o.
what's the difference he's a fat fk now...in the offseason...these guys can't take to be smalll
it's called an opinion asshole
you have your biased one and
i have mine based on facts
I saw him in Toronto believe me he isn't fat, the pictures don't do him justice, your opinion stinks; can't everybody understand that he loves bodybuilding so if he is sick or even dies from it its still worth it for him. The same way you would die for someone you love. The reality of it is that most people hate being just ordinary people, but they don't have the guts to admit it. There are millions of you's, but only one jay and thats my opinion. Now go ahead get mad and call me names.
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It doesn't matter how sick he is. He is covered 100% by the insurance policy Chic got them. So he'll be okay,
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There are millions of you's, but only one jay and thats my opinion.
No two people are the same. Every individual is beautiful and unique in his or her own way. Kumbaya brother.
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No two people are the same. Every individual is beautiful and unique in his or her own way. Kumbaya brother.
I stand corrected :)
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It doesn't matter how sick he is. He is covered 100% by the insurance policy Chic got them. So he'll be okay,
I thought Shawn got that when he was rep.
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No two people are the same. Every individual is beautiful and unique in his or her own way. Kumbaya brother.
LOL ;D
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It's Jay's and Chris Aceto's business...
Stop overblowing and extrapolating. What Jay does compare to what the chemical Kamikaze of the 90's isn't even close.
Captain Equipoise, I recall seeing your "drug regiment" posted but no physique to go with it. Maybe you should check your own health. You don't respond.
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this topic is hashed over repeatedly.. "what will he be like in 15 years.." ect ect.. the simple answer is NO ONE KNOWS.. no one here.. all is pure speculation.. and no one here really cares, they just want to start crap about steroids and gh ect ect ::).. lets see if people can go 30 days.. no wait..15 days without starting a thread (which is a repeat of last weeks thread and the week before) about the doom and gloom of steroids and hgh.. no one knows what these guys are taking except them... and they aint talking.. ;)
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It doesn't matter how sick he is. He is covered 100% by the insurance policy Chic got them. So he'll be okay,
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha yeah right ;D
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This obsession that some people have is almost a wish....Its like they cant wait to see illness and death to all these bodybuilders... they cant wait to gossip about it and be a voyuer through someone elses tragedy...If it hasn't happened yet its not going to. Give it up.
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Cutler is 100% healthy. For one, his wife is a nurse and he gets his "blood work" done REGULARLY. Anyone who says different, is just jealous.
;D ::)
My favorite is when someone who juices tells me, they get their blood work done and are "monitored". By the time you see something wrong, it's usually too late. Gotta love "rational" drug users. At least be honest and say, "I know I'm probably fucking myself up in the long run, but I really don't give a shit." I can respect that at least.
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this topic is hashed over repeatedly.. "what will he be like in 15 years.." ect ect.. the simple answer is NO ONE KNOWS.. no one here.. all is pure speculation.. and no one here really cares, they just want to start crap about steroids and gh ect ect ::).. lets see if people can go 30 days.. no wait..15 days without starting a thread (which is a repeat of last weeks thread and the week before) about the doom and gloom of steroids and hgh.. no one knows what these guys are taking except them... and they aint talking.. ;)
well said bravo
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"Onetimehard"
Oh brother....where's Squad?
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Are you guys saying that the use of chemicals cause major health problems for bodybuilders? Example:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206079.0;attach=240546;image)
That said, Jay walks around as if every step requires a great deal of energy. He does not appear to be healthy at all from my vantage point. Granted, we do not and will never have the scientific evidence to determine what the net effect of pro bodybuilding chemicals are since such a study would be unethical. We will see the results, roughly starting now and for the years to come.
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Cutler is a walking lab experiment like most bb's. If he lives a full life it will not be without consequences.
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Cutler is a walking lab experiment like most bb's. If he lives a full life it will not be without consequences.
Jay's already lived more of a life than 95% of the population who may live to 80 but spend almost every day of it miserable.
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Jay's already lived more of a life than 95% of the population who may live to 80 but spend almost every day of it miserable.
Sorry to hear you live a miserable existance. Stay positive. Life is good!
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Sorry to hear you live a miserable existance. Stay positive. Life is good!
I'm in the 5% ;D
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I'm in the 5% ;D
Who would have thunk it ::)
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Jay's already lived more of a life than 95% of the population who may live to 80 but spend almost every day of it miserable.
On this topic, read the first comment by NPC COCK and the following comments:
I was reading an article on MSNBC yesterday about people in their twenty's...the article was actually about the financial state that people in their twenty's are in. It had all kinds of info..including the life expectancy of people in their twenty's: 54 I always read the RIP Joe Sombody treads on here where somebody in their 40s-50's dies of a heart attack and everybody starts in with the....oh steroids...advil strikes again...and shit like that. Seriously If these guys were doing what they love doing and ended up dying mid-forties or whatever so fucking what. Everybody dies, but very few people ever live! If you die doing something you love then more fucking power to you....better than dying in a nursing home after living a life as a fat ass nobody that spends their entire life stressing over their mortgage and hating their fat ass wife (75% of America) Think of you life as a book....your writing the story with everything you do and everything you say. When your book is complete...would anybody want to read it...is your life interesting or exciting...or do you just fall in line and eventually die? My two cents...
Another reply:
What an incredibly shallow and idiotic post. Nobody EVER wants to die when they're 45 years old, even if it means watching their wife grow old or living in a nursing home. ::)
Bodybuilders are NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You are not a superior or enlightened person because you compete in bodybuilding contests. The notion that bodybuilders are more "interesting or exciting" than people who raise families and make a living in the real world is simply laughable. To most people, you are just a self-absorbed bum who hangs around the gym all day and takes steroids.
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learn what? Not to live life doing what you love? Some people live their whole lives wishing they had done this or that. He died doing what he wanted to be doing. More of a victory than a tragedy. It's sad to see anyone go that early but. the tragedy are those who go through life wishing they had. The tragedy are all those fat ass mcdonalds eating nightly beer drinking clowns that die from a heart attack in their 40's leaving 3 kids and a wife wondering wtf they're going to do now.
My reply:
I forgot that being a competitive bodybuilder and making $0 winning contests somehow precludes you to stressing over your mortgage or family life. ???
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On this topic, read the first comment by NPC COCK and the following comments:
My reply:
Another reply:
Last one:
Next time you see Jay, ask him.....would he rather do what he did and become Mr. Olympia and die at 50 or continue his family business and work construction his whole life and die at 80.
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Cutler will show signs of full blown Palumbosim if he continues to compete in 2009.
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maybe taking Muscletech products negate all (or some) of those side effects?
;D ;D ;D
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Next time you see Jay, ask him.....would he rather do what he did and become Mr. Olympia and die at 50 or continue his family business and work construction his whole life and die at 80.
I would rather be Ryan Deluca. Within 10 years, bodybuilding.com will be a billion dollar company and he didn't need to risk his health for that to happen.
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I would rather be Ryan Deluca. Within 10 years, bodybuilding.com will be a billion dollar company and he didn't need to risk his health for that to happen.
I don't think I would want to be Deluca, have his money sure, look like that twit no thx.
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I don't think I would want to be Deluca, have his money sure, look like that twit no thx.
LOL. I made a thread about him here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=91122.0
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I dont think steorids is worse for your health than smoking every day, get drunk every weekened and lot of fast food. Accept the drugs he seems to live a pretty healthy life, no drinking, no smoking, not to much fast food.
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I dont think steorids is worse for your health than smoking every day, get drunk every weekened and lot of fast food. Accept the drugs he seems to live a pretty healthy life, no drinking, no smoking, not to much fast food.
yes but being 300 lbs or so is extremely hard on the heart, muscle or fat it doesn't matter
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the guy has trouble saying a sentence without losing his breath, same with Branch
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Any more comments on this?
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Speculation. Thats what all you are doing. Jay is smart, hes even said once he retires he will settle at around 220 or so, which Jay could achieve whilst being "off". You gotta remember that he walks around at 300lbs at under 10%bf as he is Mr Olympia and a professional bb'er. Once he retires, why the fuck would he stay like that? theres no need to. He will lose size, his bf will go up, but he will always carry some decent mass. Honsetly i don't know if he will health problems in the future or not (i hope not, and either should any of you). Hopefully he lives a long and happy life, you guys sound like you want him to have health problems ::)
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Lots of people use recreational drugs and alcohol for years and are fine. I don't see how the same won't happen with Cutler. I suppose in some ways he is a guinea pig, but he may still have a long life.
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Lots of people use recreational drugs and alcohol for years and are fine. I don't see how the same won't happen with Cutler. I suppose in some ways he is a guinea pig, but he may still have a long life.
Bingo.
Some people smoke a pack a day and live till their 90, others get lung cancer at 45. You can't generalise everyone, as everyone responds differently to the things they do.
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LMAO...."athlete".
Easily the most dedicated sport in the World
24 hours a day.
Lifting weights & enduring pain that is un-equaled.
Yeah.. I would definitely say athlete.
Go ahead. Laugh Your Ass off.
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Easily the most dedicated sport in the World
24 hours a day.
Lifting weights & enduring pain that is un-equaled.
Yeah.. I would definitely say athlete.
Go ahead. Laugh Your Ass off.
Hi Jay.
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Easily the most dedicated sport in the World
24 hours a day.
Lifting weights & enduring pain that is un-equaled.
Yeah.. I would definitely say athlete.
Go ahead. Laugh Your Ass off.
Mate i agree with you, but seriously don't bother. This isn't the place apparently ::)