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I saw both the PJ and night show finals , live and in person at the recent Arnold. Branch Warren won the most muscular and got the biggest crowd response of the show. he ended up in 4th overall.
I would have had him 1st or 2nd myself. The man was by far the most muscular and he had a taper with no bloat to his midsection. His lowerbody was incredible and he had an impressive taper in front and back lat. His back was thick and wide this time out. What do you think?
Howard
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No.
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Maybe.
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top 2
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wow, some in depth physique critique and analysis here. You sure you guys are not sports journalists? hehe
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wow, some in depth physique critique and analysis here. You sure you guys are not sports journalists? hehe
We were talking about bodybuilding, not sports.
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He was the most muscular, probably first or second best condition(just as good as phil), vascular as all hell, proportioned, good presentation, and got 4th? I had him 1st or 2nd. Now that he's proportioned(upper half and lower half), I like his physique more than Dex's high skinny lats and no calves physique.
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Perhaps.
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He was the most muscular, probably first or second best condition(just as good as phil), vascular as all hell, proportioned, good presentation, and got 4th? I had him 1st or 2nd. Now that he's proportioned(upper half and lower half), I like his physique more than Dex's high skinny lats and no calves physique.
I agree and feel he is better balnced now then a lot of other pros that get placed higher due to better symmetry?
I think they place him lower as his physique is not as "pretty" and more freaky muscular.
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I saw both the PJ and night show finals , live and in person at the recent Arnold. Branch Warren won the most muscular and got the biggest crowd response of the show. he ended up in 4th overall.
I would have had him 1st or 2nd myself. The man was by far the most muscular and he had a taper with no bloat to his midsection. His lowerbody was incredible and he had an impressive taper in front and back lat. His back was thick and wide this time out. What do you think?
Howard
Definitely. I could have seen him winning the whole show. He was the biggest and most shredded bodybuilder on stage. Granted, his symmetry is lacking compared to Dexter's, but that is in part due to being much bigger. So it is not simply a structural issue. If Dexter weight 20 pounds more, his symmetry would suffer also.
Branch looked about as good this year as he did in 2006 when he came second and beat Victor Martinez (who looked incredible at the same show):
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2006arnoldclassicpumproomdvdreview.html
Just sick:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2006arnoldclassicpumproomdvd/15.jpg)
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All i know is that Branch looked awesome and presented a really good routine. No dancing or pop locking, just heavy metal and a lot of most musculars. Cool routine.
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While a 4th place finish may not seem to match in our minds to the physique Branch brought (certainly his best ever), but! this is the Arnold guys.. and there are a couple kids named Phil Heath and Dexter Jackson that definitely had Branch beat. Phil lacked Branch's conditioning(very close tho), but had him on symmetry and proportion. Dexter matched Branches conditioning while also besting Branch in the same areas as Phil. What about Kai then? This is where I the placings were not correct- I had Kai 4th with Branch up in 3rd.
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His back has too much fat on it.
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Branch looks sick here
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2008-arnold-classic-107.jpg)
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I agree and feel he is better balnced now then a lot of other pros that get placed higher due to better symmetry?
I think they place him lower as his physique is not as "pretty" and more freaky muscular.
Yep. Shredded conditioning and striationville all over too.
Can I see some pics of this "back fat", "Disgusted"?
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Can I see some pics of this "back fat", "Disgusted"?
I would also like Disgusted to provide said evidence. ::)
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Too lazy. Just post a pic to prove my point.
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I would also like Disgusted to provide said evidence. ::)
BTW, don't you EVER roll your eyes at me again Mister. >:(
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But that's not fair, all the other kids get to do it :-[
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Too lazy. Just post a pic to prove my point.
I tried, but sadly I'm afraid I've failed you, oh fearless leader
(http://i27.tinypic.com/21cecg5.jpg)
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But that's not fair, all the other kids get to do it :-[
Sorry I was mean to you. Here is something to make up for it.
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Sorry I was mean to you. Here is something to make up for it.
Is that your proof of back fat? ;D
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I tried, but sadly I'm afraid I've failed you, oh fearless leader
(http://i27.tinypic.com/21cecg5.jpg)
Really? that pic seems to prove my point. Branch is much leaner all over the rest of his body than his back. Not a put down just fact. I will admit that this pic and pose is one of the better back shots of Branch.
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Is that your proof of back fat? ;D
LOL Yes it is. ;D
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Really? that pic seems to prove my point. Branch is much leaner all over the rest of his body than his back. Not a put down just fact. I will admit that this pic and pose is one of the better back shots of Branch.
He was shedded from the back from head to toe. That is a transiation pose and he is sqeezing his back in prep for the actual pose. What are you smoking to think his back looked fat???
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He was shedded from the back from head to toe. That is a transiation pose and he is sqeezing his back in prep for the actual pose. What are you smoking to think his back looked fat???
That is NOT a transistion pose Howie bro. That is a pose that a lot of guys do today. It is "supposed" to show extreme striations in the "back" area Howie. You should know this by now. His back is FULLY flexed in that pic Howie. ::)
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Really? that pic seems to prove my point. Branch is much leaner all over the rest of his body than his back. Not a put down just fact. I will admit that this pic and pose is one of the better back shots of Branch.
Well, I agree his upper back seems to be holding a slight! film of water compared to the rest of his body.. but the lower back (as is normally the toughest back spot to wring the last bits of water from) seems to me to be the tightest part of his back. I put Branch 3rd behind Dex and Phil and this contributes to it, but to make a case that this is the reason he wasn't placed any higher doesn't seem to be enough of a reason to me.
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Well, I agree his upper back seems to be holding a slight! film of water compared to the rest of his body.. but the lower back (as is normally the toughest back spot to wring the last bits of water from) seems to me to be the tightest part of his back. I put Branch 3rd behind Dex and Phil and this contributes to it, but to make a case that this is the reason he wasn't placed any higher doesn't seem to be enough of a reason to me.
Placing can be argued, but that is fat not water.
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That is NOT a transistion pose Howie bro. That is a pose that a lot of guys do today. It is "supposed" to show extreme striations in the "back" area Howie. You should know this by now. His back is FULLY flexed in that pic Howie. ::)
I saw him doing full on back shots and when flexed he looked shredded to me. Get enough pics and any pro can look less than perfect in a few of them c'mon
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>Did Branch deserve 4th at the recent arnold?
Yes. He peaked in 2004-2006 His physique is in decline. Bah! Doom disapproves.
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I saw him doing full on back shots and when flexed he looked shredded to me. Get enough pics and any pro can look less than perfect in a few of them c'mon
Then show me a pic of his SHREDDED back!!!!!!
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I tried, but sadly I'm afraid I've failed you, oh fearless leader
(http://i27.tinypic.com/21cecg5.jpg)
Damn,m dude can't even get a decent X-mas tree. Speaking of which, why isn't that you don't see more X-mas tree pics from the pros now. There are pics of Ronnie, Shawn, Dorian, Flex, CC, non of todays top pros.. I willing to wager, that none of today's top pros have that X-mas tree of yore.
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Did Branch deserve 4th at the recent arnold?
It's very hard to categorize Branch. He is far more muscular and has far superior hardness than the other guys, but his body is so imbalanced and his muscles are so unshapely that I can understand why the judges placed him where they did.
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That is NOT a transistion pose Howie bro. That is a pose that a lot of guys do today. It is "supposed" to show extreme striations in the "back" area Howie. You should know this by now. His back is FULLY flexed in that pic Howie. ::)
Getting off-topic but have you ever tried any transdermal "fat burners" on your clients to try to get the last bit of fat off? Was just reminded of when a supplement company claimed that they had shipped a lot of their yohimbine transdermal product to Ronnie Coleman's house.
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Here's why:
(http://www.flexonline.com/08contests/08arnold/greene/images/_MG_2007.jpg)
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Agreed with Disgusted - here's what a totally dried out and ripped back should look like in that pose
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And on the flip side of the coin, you have...... ;D
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I saw both the PJ and night show finals , live and in person at the recent Arnold. Branch Warren won the most muscular and got the biggest crowd response of the show. he ended up in 4th overall.
I would have had him 1st or 2nd myself. The man was by far the most muscular and he had a taper with no bloat to his midsection. His lowerbody was incredible and he had an impressive taper in front and back lat. His back was thick and wide this time out. What do you think?
Howard
i agree, i had him winning the show.
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fat or water in the back - he was not anywhere near dex. heath maybe, but definately should have been above widewaist kai
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Branch looked at least as good as he did in 2006, if not better.
PICTURES:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2006arnoldclassicpumproomdvd
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His back has def improved a lot since the 2006 ASC. I thought he could have been anywhere between 1-4, they all looked great.
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/787/Men/787mpp0165.jpg)