Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: technokc on March 20, 2008, 07:38:58 PM

Title: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: technokc on March 20, 2008, 07:38:58 PM
Now that Dexter Jackson is with Weider does this mean he has a legit shot at the Olympia?
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 20, 2008, 09:37:21 PM
that was my first thought, actually

(http://www.mysticgames.com/famouspeople/pictures/DexterJackson.jpg)
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: HowieW on March 20, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
Now that Dexter Jackson is with Weider does this mean he has a legit shot at the Olympia?
I think this conspriacy of sponsers crap is a bunch of crap. If Dex wins it will be his physique that does it
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2008, 09:40:56 PM
I think this conspriacy of sponsers crap is a bunch of crap.

Turns out that many experienced competitors, promoters, and insiders disagree with you completely.

Now who should I believe... ;)
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2008, 09:41:11 PM
I think this conspriacy of sponsers crap is a bunch of crap. If Dex wins it will be his physique that does it

You are correct , sir!!
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Lift Studios on March 20, 2008, 09:47:17 PM
With that logic that's why Dexter won the Arnold - MD was the Title Sponsor.  ::)
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: HowieW on March 20, 2008, 09:58:33 PM
Turns out that many experienced competitors, promoters, and insiders disagree with you completely.

Now who should I believe... ;)
I know , it is all about drugs and who knows who, etc.
I actually don't think it is quite that staright fwd and simple.sorry
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2008, 09:59:52 PM
I know , it is all about drugs and who knows who, etc.
I actually don't think it is quite that staright fwd and simple.sorry

No, it's not about drugs.  it's about ROI and the LT value of a dynasty figure in maintaining a reliable image of THE man who best represents the sport. 
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: CigaretteMan on March 21, 2008, 03:37:54 AM
Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?

  He is too small and his lats are too high for him to be Mr.Olympia.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Determinator on March 21, 2008, 03:55:58 AM
With that logic that's why Dexter won the Arnold - MD was the Title Sponsor.  ::)
Recall: "Joe WEIDER'S MR.Olympia, sponsered by MUSCLETECH. :-X
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on March 21, 2008, 04:06:12 AM
You are correct , sir!!

So you honestly believe Jay won it on his physique last year?

I have always thought every Mr.O was fairly judged until last year which was a joke. Look at the boards, no-one believes he should have won. No-one at all.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Gino30 on March 21, 2008, 05:19:15 AM
Look at the boards, no-one believes he should have won. No-one at all.

no one huh?.......y u d*ckhead
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: webcake on March 21, 2008, 05:23:22 AM
no one huh?.......y u d*ckhead

Welcome back to Getbig Jay. We all knew you would be back.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: JasonH on March 21, 2008, 05:24:03 AM
Dexter will never win the Olympia.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: m8 on March 21, 2008, 05:27:35 AM
Way too small for the title.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2008, 07:40:56 AM
I think this conspriacy of sponsers crap is a bunch of crap. If Dex wins it will be his physique that does it

So you think Jay's physique won him the show last year ?
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 21, 2008, 08:11:34 AM
Markus Ruhl thought Dexter should have won last year

that's a pretty big endorsement
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: War-Horse on March 21, 2008, 09:17:51 AM
No, it's not about drugs.  it's about ROI and the LT value of a dynasty figure in maintaining a reliable image of THE man who best represents the sport. 


Hahaha.  You should start a buisness board...
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: War-Horse on March 21, 2008, 09:22:21 AM
Dexter has the deep sepration lines to have him double in size on stage.  If you look at weight youd think he's small......but with his separation and grainy hardness, he beats the mass monsters at their own game.

This is common in amateur shows.  Ive had my ass kicked by middleweights because they had deeper lines and shadows.    Nice to see it in the pros....hopefully weightclasses will bring reality back to the sport and help marketability
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: HowieW on March 21, 2008, 09:37:37 AM
Dexter has the deep sepration lines to have him double in size on stage.  If you look at weight youd think he's small......but with his separation and grainy hardness, he beats the mass monsters at their own game.

This is common in amateur shows.  Ive had my ass kicked by middleweights because they had deeper lines and shadows.    Nice to see it in the pros....hopefully weightclasses will bring reality back to the sport and help marketability
I agree, I got beat in an overall by Middle wt from FL in 1994 that was about 168 and 5'6" . His cuts were so damn deep ,on his small frame, I simply shook his hand after the winner was announced.
If you look at some of the pics of Dex at the Arnold it clealry shows a depth on muscle separation few have ever exhibited on a pro stage.Their is one pic of him holding the arnold overall trophy and the separation of his arm and delt from the side are mind boggling .

The last O was really close and any of the top 5 guys could make a case for winning the show.
Bodybuildin is a judged sport and a variety of subjective factors come into play when picking the winner at close contest. I know judging  is not 100% objective and perfect, but complicated , secret conspiracy plans to determine the winner don't happen. The top guys like Jay have an ideal kind of pro physique or they would never get to be a top pro in the first place. When it is close all kinds of theories open up about why some guy won or didn't win.
No matter who wins, people will alsways say somebody else should have when it is close.
Howard
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: Ron on March 21, 2008, 09:40:16 AM

This year, another great battle will be at the Olympia.

You have Dennis Wolf, who just might take the title from Jay Cutler.
You have Jay Cutler, who is going for his 3rd Olympia title...
You have Phil Heath, who place 2nd at the Arnold.
You have Victor Martinez, who will likely sit out the O for the Arnold.

And then Dexter Jackson... who has placed in the top consistently.

Well... the tide is for Jay, but if Jay is off, Dexter has a shot.

Anything can happen.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: The Squadfather on March 21, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
Jay will win again hands down, way too much thickness, width and sheer size for everyone else plus he realizes he was off last year and will come in ready.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: kyomu on March 21, 2008, 09:46:38 AM
Jay will win again hands down, way too much thickness, width and sheer size for everyone else plus he realizes he was off last year and will come in ready.
Hope so. But he looks like something like Ronnie is happening to him. So to speak, his body looks tired and deformed and gets blocky little by little.
Once you get blocky, you are ended. Because getting blocky is not the matter of condition.
Title: Re: Dexter with Weider: Can he win Olympia now?
Post by: HowieW on March 21, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
Jay will win again hands down, way too much thickness, width and sheer size for everyone else plus he realizes he was off last year and will come in ready.
I think Jay will be tough,and the favorite going in, but Dex and Wolf are not going to lie down and let him have it