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Title: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 22, 2008, 06:30:38 PM
DIET PLAN 1
meal one, 1 whole egg, 8 egg whites, unlimited green veggies, 2 caps fish oil
meal two, 4 oz meat, unlimited green veggies, 2 caps fish oil
meal three, 4 oz meat, 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter, unlimited green veggies, 2 caps fish oil
meal four, 4 oz meat, unlimited green veggies, 2 caps fish oil
meal five, 4 oz meat, 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter, unlimited green veggies, 2 caps fish oil
meal six, 6 oz meat, small serving green veggies, 5 caps fish oil

DIET PLAN 2
1) 1/3 -1/2 cup oatmeal  or 2 eggs with ezekiel toast
2) yogurt (low sugar) or cottage cheese or pc fruit and handful of raw unsalted almonds
3) turkey sandwich or salad w/ grilled chicken or fish
4) same as # 2
5) 3-5 ounces of lean meat or chicken or fish. small side of comlex carbs and large side of broc or asparagus
6) same as #2



WHICH DIET IS BETTER FOR FAT LOSS?
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: Stubborn on March 22, 2008, 06:52:51 PM
I think YOU would be the best judge of that being 232 @ 13%. Let us know.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: webcake on March 22, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
Wouldn't diet 1 be higher in calories than diet 2?

Either way, if i had to pick one i would go number 1.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 22, 2008, 07:12:34 PM
Wouldn't diet 1 be higher in calories than diet 2?

Either way, if i had to pick one i would go number 1.
probably, yes.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: windsor88 on March 22, 2008, 07:21:10 PM
I like diet one because it is simple.  Takes all the guesswork out of it.  Of course I would get sick of the same thing after a few weeks.

Are you making any good gains yet?  Not sure what you are on.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: pac-man on March 22, 2008, 09:56:27 PM
I could be wrong on this but the 1st one looks like it has more protein.  Guess it depends how much cottage cheese/yogurt you would be eating. 

1st one looks simple.  As long as you stay focused and are seeing results, the fact that you are eating the same thing over and over becomes an after thought.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: Rimbaud on March 23, 2008, 05:16:57 AM
Honestly, If it were me I'd choose neither but that's just me.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: Get Rowdy on March 23, 2008, 05:58:17 AM
Fuck diets, just fast for a month and build back from there with muscle memory.  :D ;D
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: Meso_z on March 23, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
the 30-50-20 works best. (p/c/f)
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: LatsMcGee on March 24, 2008, 03:23:42 AM
Here you go cut and dry fat loss plan:

Meal 1:  Steak and Eggs
meal 2: Steak and Eggs
Meal 3: Steak and Eggs
In between each meal or every two hours take a handful of aminos or liver tabs

Every 3 to 4 days when you feel flat have a carb up meal like some sort of pasta

That's the old time precontest diet right there;  Arnold used it,  Larry Scott used it, and every Rich Gaspari used it.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 25, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
meal one BUT:


add carbs to first 3 meals. 


meal one alone will just make you lose weight, but a tad of fat, a lot of water and some muscle mass.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 25, 2008, 01:13:58 PM
meal one BUT:


add carbs to first 3 meals. 


meal one alone will just make you lose weight, but a tad of fat, a lot of water and some muscle mass.
you wouldnt lose any muscle on that diet bro.

and you will lose a ton of water the first couple days of ANY diet.

you will lose way more fat on low/no carb than on low/no fat...   theis is just plain and simple FACT
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: AVBG on March 25, 2008, 02:07:09 PM
meal two looks tastier.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: Get Rowdy on March 25, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
Here you go cut and dry fat loss plan:

Meal 1:  Steak and Eggs
meal 2: Steak and Eggs
Meal 3: Steak and Eggs
In between each meal or every two hours take a handful of aminos or liver tabs

Every 3 to 4 days when you feel flat have a carb up meal like some sort of pasta

That's the old time precontest diet right there;  Arnold used it,  Larry Scott used it, and every Rich Gaspari used it.


This sounds like a diet I'd be willing to try.  'Cause it's simple.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 25, 2008, 09:26:54 PM

This sounds like a diet I'd be willing to try.  'Cause it's simple.
that would be a solid diet fosho, but only more frequent meals.   three meals a day does nothing to speed up your metabolism. and that should be one of the goals of any diet.

also, adding in green veggies would speed up the fat burn
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: webcake on March 26, 2008, 04:10:37 AM
Im trying Palumbo's diet next time round.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: littleguns on March 26, 2008, 06:30:44 AM
I think YOU would be the best judge of that being 232 @ 13%. Let us know.

I agree, everyone's body responds differently, I personally do better on diets that include carbs versus very low/minimal carbs

Let us know what you choose and how it works out
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 26, 2008, 06:53:07 AM
you wouldnt lose any muscle on that diet bro.

and you will lose a ton of water the first couple days of ANY diet.

you will lose way more fat on low/no carb than on low/no fat...   theis is just plain and simple FACT


hmmmm...Chris Aceto must be wrong then...
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 09:05:22 AM

hmmmm...Chris Aceto must be wrong then...
that is correct. chris aceto is most often times WRONG.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: No Patience on March 26, 2008, 09:21:11 AM
i think carbs are very important, certain types at certain times

i am having great success with the following:

5.00am 30gm pro complex/water + 2 lipo 6
back to bed
6.00am workout(weight lifting 45 min with short rest 4 days per week)
7.00am 30gm whey/micellar with 2% milk + 30gm dextrose, 1 packet of maple oats + multi/500mg vit C/salmon oil tab/ 2 kreakyln tab
9.30am 1 cup fat free cottage cheese + 1 apple + almonds + dark chocolate(65% cacao) + salmon oil tab
11.45am tuna sandwich(light miracle whip) on whole grain(only 18gm carbs) fat free cheese + glass of 2% milk + vit C + salmon oil tab + 2 lipo 6
2.30pm 1 cup fat free cottage cheese + almonds + dark chocolate(65% cacao) + salmon oil tab
5.30-6pm 4-6oz of steak, fish, or chicken + huge serving of whole green beans in olive oil + multi/ vit C/ salmon oil
9-10pm 12 shrimp fried in olive oil OR 3 whole eggs OR casein shake + fish oil + zma + dark chocolate

*1 to 1.5 gallons of water
*that is done 7 days a week with Saturday and Sunday more carbs early in the day (whole grain pasta or rice)
*on non workout days there is no dextrose in morning shakes
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: No Patience on March 26, 2008, 09:23:41 AM
i think carbs are very important, certain types at certain times

i am having great success with the following:

5.00am 30gm pro complex/water + 2 lipo 6
back to bed
6.00am workout(weight lifting 45 min with short rest 4 days per week)
7.00am 30gm whey/micellar with 2% milk + 30gm dextrose, 1 packet of maple oats + multi/500mg vit C/salmon oil tab/ 2 kreakyln tab
9.30am 1 cup fat free cottage cheese + 1 apple + almonds + dark chocolate(65% cacao) + salmon oil tab
11.45am tuna sandwich(light miracle whip) on whole grain(only 18gm carbs) fat free cheese + glass of 2% milk + vit C + salmon oil tab + 2 lipo 6
2.30pm 1 cup fat free cottage cheese + almonds + dark chocolate(65% cacao) + salmon oil tab
5.30-6pm 4-6oz of steak, fish, or chicken + huge serving of whole green beans in olive oil + multi/ vit C/ salmon oil
9-10pm 12 shrimp fried in olive oil OR 3 whole eggs OR casein shake + fish oil + zma + dark chocolate

*1 to 1.5 gallons of water
*that is done 7 days a week with Saturday and Sunday more carbs early in the day (whole grain pasta or rice)
*on non workout days there is no dextrose in morning shakes

oh yeah>>>>> i never feel like shit on this meal plan, plenty of energy and strength
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 09:54:01 AM
i think it depends on the person. but for fa loss, i think the less carbs, the better, regardless of the person...for those with higher glucose demands, more protein, less fat, and some carbs pre workout...but for a guy like me, who has very little, if any at all, demand for carbohydrates...i dont need any in my diet when i am leaning out...maybe one carb meal every two or three days.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: No Patience on March 26, 2008, 10:27:20 AM
i think it depends on the person. but for fa loss, i think the less carbs, the better, regardless of the person...for those with higher glucose demands, more protein, less fat, and some carbs pre workout...but for a guy like me, who has very little, if any at all, demand for carbohydrates...i dont need any in my diet when i am leaning out...maybe one carb meal every two or three days.

i agree, i think sometimes it depends on the person....i have taken myself into ketosis once, felt like a crazy good buzz when i entered(that's
the only reason i know i hit ketosis)....but later on i felt flat, tired, headaches, trouble thinking straight
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 26, 2008, 10:47:53 AM
that is correct. chris aceto is most often times WRONG.



explain to me why he is noted as a nutritional expert and has many books written on the topic of losing bodyfat and bodybuillding.

You're profound statement that basically Chris Aceto is flawed in his information is amazing.

Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: No Patience on March 26, 2008, 10:55:58 AM


explain to me why he is noted as a nutritional expert and has many books written on the topic of losing bodyfat and bodybuillding.

You're profound statement that basically Chris Aceto is flawed in his information is amazing.



my diet is very similar to Aceto's idea of cycling carbs....i really like his nutritional articles
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 26, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
my diet is very similar to Aceto's idea of cycling carbs....i really like his nutritional articles

yeah, me too.  They work well in trying to lose fat and preserve muscle.

apparently CANDIDIOT believes Aceto to not know jack shit about dieting though....i'm having trouble on deciding who's advice to follow..
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: No Patience on March 26, 2008, 11:04:41 AM
yeah, me too.  They work well in trying to lose fat and preserve muscle.

apparently CANDIDIOT believes Aceto to not know jack shit about dieting though....i'm having trouble on deciding who's advice to follow..

yes they work great AND you can feel great while following them....very low/no carb make me feel crappy and it is counterproductive
with me
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 11:27:44 AM
chris aceto is not an expert. lol.   he has got just as much knowledge as anybody you could find on this board.  he spouts basic nutritional info as if its some latest greatest  thing and thinks he's the shit. also, he has some new "groundbreaking" development every month that you never hear about again.

the guy is a joke.


i agree carb cycling can be a great way to get lean, or stay lean while building muscle.
 
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: CT_Muscle on March 26, 2008, 11:48:55 AM
chris aceto is not an expert. lol.   he has got just as much knowledge as anybody you could find on this board.  he spouts basic nutritional info as if its some latest greatest  thing and thinks he's the shit. also, he has some new "groundbreaking" development every month that you never hear about again.

the guy is a joke.


i agree carb cycling can be a great way to get lean, or stay lean while building muscle.
 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and wtf are you, BITCH ASS MOFO
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 26, 2008, 12:51:55 PM
chris aceto is not an expert. lol.   he has got just as much knowledge as anybody you could find on this board.  he spouts basic nutritional info as if its some latest greatest  thing and thinks he's the shit. also, he has some new "groundbreaking" development every month that you never hear about again.

the guy is a joke.


i agree carb cycling can be a great way to get lean, or stay lean while building muscle.
 


Dude, you are the BIGGEST joke to come thru this website in years.  Aceto has nutritional education.  You have NOTHING.  AND youre a cocky little bitch about it.  Shut the F up already.  You're f ing annoying.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 12:58:59 PM
sure thing chris aceto is a nutritional POWERHOUSE. lol


  keep on reading flex magazine and buying all the bullshit they are selling to you..
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 26, 2008, 01:50:37 PM
sure thing chris aceto is a nutritional POWERHOUSE. lol


  keep on reading flex magazine and buying all the bullshit they are selling to you..


uh, the dude is an accomplished nutritional publisher.  Oh wait, so are you via this website ::)
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
good point. anyone can publish anything theyd like.

it doesnt mean its true, or that they know what they are talking about.

that true for both me and chris aceto.

why dont you learn soem things on your own and not follow blindly to what you read in the magazines, bro...

Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: The Squadfather on March 26, 2008, 03:21:52 PM
that is correct. chris aceto is most often times WRONG.
hahahahhahaaa, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ;D
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 07:53:49 PM
hahahahhahaaa, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ;D
dave, do  you know what chris aceto looks like?  ;)
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 27, 2008, 06:49:24 AM
candidiot:   you obviously should NOT be giving out nutritional info based solely on appearance.  And I know plenty about nutrition myself....thats why i've been trying to give you somewhat of an education in it, cause your ideas are so far outta wack it's amazing. 


Check out Championship Bodybuilding by Chris Aceto.  It's a great book that you could learn from. 


Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: peroni on March 27, 2008, 08:02:11 PM

Dude, you are the BIGGEST joke to come thru this website in years.  Aceto has nutritional education.  You have NOTHING.  AND youre a cocky little bitch about it.  Shut the F up already.  You're fucking annoying.

So true. So true
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: AVBG on March 27, 2008, 11:04:25 PM
Candidiot ..Lol. Mouthy kid.

Chris Aceto has no doubt forgotten more than you'll ever know.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: tu_holmes on March 27, 2008, 11:30:39 PM
Candidiot ..Lol. Mouthy kid.

Chris Aceto has no doubt forgotten more than you'll ever know.

Forgotten... Suffered from Alzheimer's... Had clear days, remembered and forgotten AGAIN you mean.

This is perhaps the most laughable thing I think I've ever seen on this board
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 28, 2008, 06:51:28 AM
Translation??


Candidiot, you lose.


<<end of thread>>
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: candidizzle on March 28, 2008, 11:48:58 AM
LOL ummm NO..    the diet number one was mine.  number two was peroni's.


 i did not "lose".. 

not that your guys's opinions matter anyways...

Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: coltrane on March 28, 2008, 01:40:49 PM
LOL ummm NO..    the diet number one was mine.  number two was peroni's.


 i did not "lose".. 

not that your guys's opinions matter anyways...



You're still a Candidiot.
Title: Re: LETS HAVE A VOTE. WHICH IS THE BETTER FAT LOSS DIET.
Post by: conan1071 on April 08, 2008, 07:01:38 PM
Which diet is better? That depends, if a person is carb sensitive then diet 1 would work better.