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Title: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Special Ed on March 24, 2008, 12:15:38 PM
You won't read this on your Musclephone...

...Rumor coming from Camp MD is that after losing Freeman, Anthony, Badell, and Jackson to AMI, Boss Blechman is planning to go to the bank to sign PHIL HEATH away from AMI when Heath's contract comes up shortly.

Can it be true? Will Dexter be furious if AMI pays Heath what is rumored to be THREE TIMES what they paid Jackson? Will AMI get into a bidding war over Heath or risk pissing off all of their other guys to keep him?

Stay tuned...
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: davidpaul on March 24, 2008, 12:21:25 PM
I am pretty pissed I didn't get this in text form from musclephone first.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 12:25:08 PM
I am pretty pissed I didn't get this in text form from musclephone first.
It's because MusclePhone.com  (http://MusclePhone.com)only sends out factual information.

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: davidpaul on March 24, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
It's because MusclePhone.com  (http://MusclePhone.com)only sends out factual information.



I highly doubt a getbig expert like special ed would lie.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on March 24, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
It's because MusclePhone.com  (http://MusclePhone.com)only sends out factual information.

LIFT Studios Launches Muscle Phone
Bodybuilding news, gossip and NPC & IFBB contest results delivered directly to your phone, within seconds of them happening

Sure it does.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: davidpaul on March 24, 2008, 12:40:24 PM
LIFT Studios Launches Muscle Phone
Bodybuilding news, gossip and NPC & IFBB contest results delivered directly to your phone, within seconds of them happening

Sure it does.

It missed this piece of gossip, good thing we have special ed looking out for us.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Special Ed on March 24, 2008, 12:41:30 PM
Musclephone is in a quandry...it wants to deliver the "facts" but the owner of the company is in bed with Muscletech, AMI, and Heath, so much like a LiftStudio post, you get Isaac's version of the "truth".

Will Isaac a/k/a LiftStudios a/k/a Musclephone tell us when Heath's contract is expiring, how much AMI pays him, and how much MD has offered him?

Did Isaac a/k/a LiftStudios a/k/a Musclephone break the news about LEE PRIEST re-signing with MD or getting back into the IFBB?

Which is it -- Musclephone or LiftStudiosPhone?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on March 24, 2008, 12:48:19 PM
You should do a Special Ed phone.  One can't really rely on this muscle phone for anything other than the AMI/Muscle Tech party line.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 12:49:12 PM
Musclephone is in a quandry...it wants to deliver the "facts" but the owner of the company is in bed with Muscletech, AMI, and Heath, so much like a LiftStudio post, you get Isaac's version of the "truth".

Will Isaac a/k/a LiftStudios a/k/a Musclephone tell us when Heath's contract is expiring, how much AMI pays him, and how much MD has offered him?

Did Isaac a/k/a LiftStudios a/k/a Musclephone break the news about LEE PRIEST re-signing with MD or getting back into the IFBB?

Which is it -- Musclephone or LiftStudiosPhone?

If I sent out ever RUMOR in bodybuilding I'd be lighting up people's phones and they'd be pissed that I was "spamming" them. What does how much Phil does or doesn't make have to do with Muscle Phone? I don't nor does any one else disclose the terms and dollar amounts of their contacts.

You're not even a subscriber to Muscle Phone ya tight ass so why would you care? You live on getbig remember?

I was relying on the "Big Nation Network" to be the ones to provide these ground breaking details you speak of. Why is it we've yet to hear anything from your show regarding contracts and dollar amounts?

 :-*
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Blockhead on March 24, 2008, 12:53:24 PM

 Serious question, Ike.

 What is the point of your MusclePhone thing when there is Getbig? Is it just to get contest results?

 Sell me your product. I read Getbig all the time. Everyday. Sometimes a couple times a day...how would MusclePhone benefit me? Pitch it to me and for the boys and girls at home.


 Is it true you are now an AMI man, Ike?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 24, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
Serious question, Ike.

 What is the point of your MusclePhone thing when there is Getbig? Is it just to get contest results?

 Sell me your product. I read Getbig all the time. Everyday. Sometimes a couple times a day...how would MusclePhone benefit me? Pitch it to me and for the boys and girls at home.


 Is it true you are now an AMI man, Ike?

To take your statement a little further Block....

In all honesty, who really gives that much of a shit that they would PAY for BBing news, Really?

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: wolfgang187 on March 24, 2008, 01:08:18 PM
I am pretty pissed I didn't get this in text form from musclephone first.



 MUSCLEPHONE SUCKS IT WILL GIVE YOU EAR WIGS!
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Blockhead on March 24, 2008, 01:10:47 PM
To take your statement a little further Block....

In all honesty, who really gives that much of a shit that they would PAY for BBing news, Really?


News about bodybuilding should be absolutely FREE! As with any NEWS, for that matter. I like Ike for his entrepenuer ways but to illustrate what I am saying...I haven't bought a BB magazine or even bothered flipping through one in about 2 years since my 'career' at Getbig.

 Maybe I am not THAT big of a fan, though.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 01:12:24 PM
Bottom line: There isn't enough news to report about bodybuilding to have texts sent to your phone. Unlike other media industries, BB media isn't recognizable on who's broke the most stories and who's first, etc. Of course, who am I to speak of such?

Ike has dealt with Monster Mass  ::) Media Companies like Flex, M&F, and Hardbody.com  ::), and I was just toying with billion dollar corporations like Yahoo and Fox among others.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 01:22:47 PM
Serious question, Ike.

 What is the point of your MusclePhone thing when there is Getbig? Is it just to get contest results?

 Sell me your product. I read Getbig all the time. Everyday. Sometimes a couple times a day...how would MusclePhone benefit me? Pitch it to me and for the boys and girls at home.


 Is it true you are now an AMI man, Ike?

Contrary to popular belief - people do leave their computers. I have hundreds of subscribers with only 1 month of launching it. The average getbigger doesn't think supplements work either but we have how may supplement companies thriving? My audience is to the ticket buying, supplement using, magazine reading fan. There are a few die hards who visit getbig and other boards that have signed up as well but that's not the key audience. When the news of Dexter broke I received a number of calls and text messages asking me for more details.

There is no charge for subscribing to Muscle Phone, only your standard text messaging rates. IE - if you have unlimited text messages it's free. If you don't it counts towards your text plan.

More features will be provided by Muscle Phone in the coming months via your mobile phone.

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Special Ed on March 24, 2008, 01:26:05 PM
If I sent out ever RUMOR in bodybuilding I'd be lighting up people's phones and they'd be pissed that I was "spamming" them.
Then why do you market Musclephone as providing the latest "News, Gossip and Contest Results"?? On the MD Boards, several MD employees have alluded to a MD/Heath signing. Will Musclephone be honest with its customers and deliver the latest gossip or are you personally worried about upsetting someone?

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What does how much Phil does or doesn't make have to do with Muscle Phone? I don't nor does any one else disclose the terms and dollar amounts of their contacts.
Last time I checked ESPN and other text messaging services they provided news of contract signings and included dollar amounts. Is Musclephone a "bodybuilding news service" or not?

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You're not even a subscriber to Muscle Phone ya tight ass so why would you care? You live on getbig remember?
Somehow I think I'm going to survive without a 3:26 am text message from Musclephone that Phil Heath has switched from dumbbell curls to cable curls. And are you suggesting you don't live on Getbig and that you just happened across my post and replied within 3 minutes?  Or does your Musclephone alert you to Special Ed posts?

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I was relying on the "Big Nation Network" to be the ones to provide these ground breaking details you speak of. Why is it we've yet to hear anything from your show regarding contracts and dollar amounts?
Probably because when I ask sources like you to reveal what you know, you insist that it's "off the record" and make me promise not to repeat it on Big Nation Radio!

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Open disclosure of Professional Bodybuilder salaries and contracts ONLY HELPS other Pro Bodybuilders negotiate their own contracts. That is precisely what all Pro Sports unions do. Even without a union, how difficult would it be for each contracted bodybuilder fax a copy of his current contracts to Athlete Rep Bob Cicherillo to keep on file and make available to other Bodybuilders for use in negotiating their own contracts?

The only ones whose interests are served by keeping dollar amounts private are: (a) The companies underpaying their bodybuilders; and (b) The bodybuilders lying about their contracts.

Example: Muscletech asks prospective signees "How much are you looking for?" and just waits for a schmuck to say "Just 'promotion' in your ads and maybe some free product."

True Story: Several years ago, Milos and I were having a discussion about bodybuilder salaries. He mentioned that he was currently making $85,000 a year from his Weider deal. When I expressed surprise, he immediately offered to fax it to me. As contrasted with other Pros who told me they were making "six figures" and then refused to send me a copy.

Anyway, I do have several Muscletech and other contracts on file. I will post them on request, unlike Musclephone.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Blockhead on March 24, 2008, 01:29:05 PM
 Ike. This isn't another avenue to get figure bunny bitches to TEXT you is it?  ;)

 I want to see what evidence you have to support your claim that some people leave their computers. I woke up the other day at 3am to piss and looked at Getbig because, well...it's Getbig and there were all kinds of the same faces around here still POSTING.

 Are you an AMI employee now?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 01:39:33 PM
Ike. This isn't another avenue to get figure bunny bitches to TEXT you is it?  ;)

 I want to see what evidence you have to support your claim that some people leave their computers. I woke up the other day at 3am to piss and looked at Getbig because, well...it's Getbig and there were all kinds of the same faces around here still POSTING.

 Are you an AMI employee now?

Are you implying that Ike doesn't report all bodybuilding news, but just AMI news?

If you're not an el cheapo, you can get unlimited flat rate text and data plan for your phone through most carriers for only $99 a month. Sprint just started offering it and I believe AT&T does now as well??
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Blockhead on March 24, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Are you implying that Ike doesn't report all bodybuilding news, but just AMI news?

If you're not an el cheapo, you can get unlimited flat rate text and data plan for your phone through most carriers for only $99 a month. Sprint just started offering it and I believe AT&T does now as well??
I am implying exactly that!

 Ike should also know to never ever argue or attempt to bluff with a hyperanalytical and highly informed MOFO like Special 'Johnny5' Ed.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: davidpaul on March 24, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
Ike. This isn't another avenue to get figure bunny bitches to TEXT you is it?  ;)

 I want to see what evidence you have to support your claim that some people leave their computers. I woke up the other day at 3am to piss and looked at Getbig because, well...it's Getbig and there were all kinds of the same faces around here still POSTING.

 Are you an AMI employee now?

All bullshit aside,

Ed does post a lot of insider industry gossip on here, the kinda stuff you would want from a gossip text service.

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 24, 2008, 01:45:03 PM
...Rumor coming from Camp MD is that after losing Freeman, Anthony, Badell, and Jackson to AMI, Boss Blechman is planning to go to the bank to sign PHIL HEATH away from AMI when Heath's contract comes up shortly.


Heath's not that dumb, is he?   If he ever expects to be Mr. O, he's gotta be with Weider and Muscletech...
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: flexingtonsteele on March 24, 2008, 01:48:23 PM
Breaking news...... I just recieved this on my musclephone.

Muscle phone has now been renamed. AMI/Weider/muscle phone.

If it doesnt happen in the office of the Robin Chang then it doesnt exist!
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: dearth on March 24, 2008, 01:48:48 PM
i can't wait for the rebuttal on my musclephone.

Then why do you market Musclephone as providing the latest "News, Gossip and Contest Results"?? On the MD Boards, several MD employees have alluded to a MD/Heath signing. Will Musclephone be honest with its customers and deliver the latest gossip or are you personally worried about upsetting someone?
Last time I checked ESPN and other text messaging services they provided news of contract signings and included dollar amounts. Is Musclephone a "bodybuilding news service" or not?
Somehow I think I'm going to survive without a 3:26 am text message from Musclephone that Phil Heath has switched from dumbbell curls to cable curls. And are you suggesting you don't live on Getbig and that you just happened across my post and replied within 3 minutes?  Or does your Musclephone alert you to Special Ed posts?
Probably because when I ask sources like you to reveal what you know, you insist that it's "off the record" and make me promise not to repeat it on Big Nation Radio!

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Open disclosure of Professional Bodybuilder salaries and contracts ONLY HELPS other Pro Bodybuilders negotiate their own contracts. That is precisely what all Pro Sports unions do. Even without a union, how difficult would it be for each contracted bodybuilder fax a copy of his current contracts to Athlete Rep Bob Cicherillo to keep on file and make available to other Bodybuilders for use in negotiating their own contracts?

The only ones whose interests are served by keeping dollar amounts private are: (a) The companies underpaying their bodybuilders; and (b) The bodybuilders lying about their contracts.

Example: Muscletech asks prospective signees "How much are you looking for?" and just waits for a schmuck to say "Just 'promotion' in your ads and maybe some free product."

True Story: Several years ago, Milos and I were having a discussion about bodybuilder salaries. He mentioned that he was currently making $85,000 a year from his Weider deal. When I expressed surprise, he immediately offered to fax it to me. As contrasted with other Pros who told me they were making "six figures" and then refused to send me a copy.

Anyway, I do have several Muscletech and other contracts on file. I will post them on request, unlike Musclephone.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: davidpaul on March 24, 2008, 01:50:41 PM
I am implying exactly that!

 Ike should also know to never ever argue or attempt to bluff with a hyperanalytical and highly informed MOFO like Special 'Johnny5' Ed.

Or his sidekick Block "Newton Crosby" Head.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Special Ed on March 24, 2008, 02:03:34 PM

Heath's not that dumb, is he?   If he ever expects to be Mr. O, he's gotta be with Weider and Muscletech...
Heath is with Met-RX.

All of the real industry gossip tonight on Big Nation Radio.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 24, 2008, 02:04:46 PM
Heath is with Met-RX.

All of the real industry gossip tonight on Big Nation Radio.


I didn't know you were still doing that show.  How's it going?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: gordiano on March 24, 2008, 02:05:14 PM
It's because MusclePhone.com  (http://MusclePhone.com)only sends out homosexual information.



Fixed.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Blockhead on March 24, 2008, 02:07:18 PM

Heath's not that dumb, is he?   If he ever expects to be Mr. O, he's gotta be with Weider and Muscletech...
Good point but as we all know...MONEY TALKS, baby! It's also true that Uncle Stevie has alot of it.

 Nevertheless, Phil should keep his black ass right there with Weider/AMI. That's if he wants to be Mr. O someday.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Fatpanda on March 24, 2008, 03:05:00 PM
ed, post the contracts then - you can remove the athletes names if they like. :)
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: SquatsRule on March 24, 2008, 03:17:36 PM
Contrary to popular belief - people do leave their computers. I have hundreds of subscribers with only 1 month of launching it. The average getbigger doesn't think supplements work either but we have how may supplement companies thriving? My audience is to the ticket buying, supplement using, magazine reading fan. There are a few die hards who visit getbig and other boards that have signed up as well but that's not the key audience. When the news of Dexter broke I received a number of calls and text messages asking me for more details.

There is no charge for subscribing to Muscle Phone, only your standard text messaging rates. IE - if you have unlimited text messages it's free. If you don't it counts towards your text plan.

More features will be provided by Muscle Phone in the coming months via your mobile phone.



Just because a few supplement companies are thriving it doesn't mean that the supplements actually work. The only proof from that is that there are people still stupid enough to buy them. Most supplements are worthless. Contradicting studies for basically every supplement.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 03:18:19 PM
Then why do you market Musclephone as providing the latest "News, Gossip and Contest Results"?? On the MD Boards, several MD employees have alluded to a MD/Heath signing. Will Musclephone be honest with its customers and deliver the latest gossip or are you personally worried about upsetting someone?
Since when did you start believing everything that came from Dave Palumbo? Of course they are going to start that rumor - you listed all the guys they have left on contract. Dave has Branch and Kai to interview on his radio show. Oh and Ben White.  ::) Again if I sent out a text message on every piece of gossip on a message board it would be endless. I'll try to remember that the next time Lee Priest or Cormier dies.  :-\

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Last time I checked ESPN and other text messaging services they provided news of contract signings and included dollar amounts. Is Musclephone a "bodybuilding news service" or not?
Last time I checked bodybuilding was never comparable to what was on ESPN. You're not a Muscle Phone subscriber and highly doubtful on any others, unless you're referring to your unemployed lawyer's job list.  ;)

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Somehow I think I'm going to survive without a 3:26 am text message from Musclephone that Phil Heath has switched from dumbbell curls to cable curls. And are you suggesting you don't live on Getbig and that you just happened across my post and replied within 3 minutes?  Or does your Musclephone alert you to Special Ed posts?

I don't deny I waste way more time on here than I should. Especially responding the the 3 stooges from Big Nation who failed at copying what has been established here.

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Probably because when I ask sources like you to reveal what you know, you insist that it's "off the record" and make me promise not to repeat it on Big Nation Radio!
At least you admit you're coming to the real sources for info since you're "producer" and constant bridge burning that has blown up in your face.  8)

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Open disclosure of Professional Bodybuilder salaries and contracts ONLY HELPS other Pro Bodybuilders negotiate their own contracts. That is precisely what all Pro Sports unions do. Even without a union, how difficult would it be for each contracted bodybuilder fax a copy of his current contracts to Athlete Rep Bob Cicherillo to keep on file and make available to other Bodybuilders for use in negotiating their own contracts?

The only ones whose interests are served by keeping dollar amounts private are: (a) The companies underpaying their bodybuilders; and (b) The bodybuilders lying about their contracts.

Example: Muscletech asks prospective signees "How much are you looking for?" and just waits for a schmuck to say "Just 'promotion' in your ads and maybe some free product."

True Story: Several years ago, Milos and I were having a discussion about bodybuilder salaries. He mentioned that he was currently making $85,000 a year from his Weider deal. When I expressed surprise, he immediately offered to fax it to me. As contrasted with other Pros who told me they were making "six figures" and then refused to send me a copy.

Anyway, I do have several Muscletech and other contracts on file. I will post them on request, unlike Musclephone.

I'd be willing to bet you don't have a copy of any top 10 pro's contract. Having a copy of Kevin Levorne's 1994 contract isn't quite the same. Muscle Phone is limited to the number of characters that can be sent via text message so no, we won't be sending out any contracts.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Ron on March 24, 2008, 03:19:54 PM

Heath is with AMI and that is that. End of story.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Chick on March 24, 2008, 03:21:36 PM
You won't read this on your Musclephone...

...Rumor coming from Camp MD is that after losing Freeman, Anthony, Badell, and Jackson to AMI, Boss Blechman is planning to go to the bank to sign PHIL HEATH away from AMI when Heath's contract comes up shortly.

Can it be true? Will Dexter be furious if AMI pays Heath what is rumored to be THREE TIMES what they paid Jackson? Will AMI get into a bidding war over Heath or risk pissing off all of their other guys to keep him?

Stay tuned...

LOL.....
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: divcom on March 24, 2008, 03:23:57 PM
Agreed!  Knowing what contracts are worth can only help the next guy up the ladder...so Special "I stole my name from an old school NY rapper" ED post the contract info, and CO LiftTicket post Phil's info.  I'm assuming you think your boy will drop u.  You love Phil too much.  That's what the wife is for!  
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Chick on March 24, 2008, 03:27:40 PM
Agreed!  Knowing what contracts are worth can only help the next guy up the ladder...so Special "I stole my name from an old school NY rapper" ED post the contract info, and CO LiftTicket post Phil's info.  I'm assuming you think your boy will drop u.  You love Phil too much.  That's what the wife is for!  

They could hurt the next guy just as much....

That said, who would care to see these contracts...they're not that exciting, believe me..
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 03:35:11 PM
That said, who would care to see these contracts...they're not that exciting, believe me..

Who would care?

Every pro would care when they go in to negotiate their next deal.  If you finish 2nd and Joe Blow finishes 4th, you're going to finally have a footing for demanding fair money.

Fans would care and be interested.

So yeah, fans and athletes.  That's all.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Chick on March 24, 2008, 03:40:32 PM
Who would care?

Every pro would care when they go in to negotiate their next deal.  If you finish 2nd and Joe Blow finishes 4th, you're going to finally have a footing for demanding fair money.

Fans would care and be interested.

So yeah, fans and athletes.  That's all.

Yeah, except all contracts are not based soley on placings...placing higher doesn't neccessarily mean the athlete is better for the company.

What if a lowere ranked athlete is making MORE money now?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: The Squadfather on March 24, 2008, 03:43:18 PM
gotta agree with Chick here, contracts have nothing to do with placings it's all about popularity, seems like Lee Preist did extremely well for himself endorsement wise and he wasn't exactly top 3 at the Olympia every year, if you hustle, get your name out there and have something that the supplement company wants then you'll get endorsements, Gunter is another good example.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: SquatsRule on March 24, 2008, 03:43:47 PM
Most contracts of professional athletes are made public. Basketball, football, baseball, and so on.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: candidizzle on March 24, 2008, 03:45:06 PM
Yeah, except all contracts are not based soley on placings...placing higher doesn't neccessarily mean the athlete is better for the company.

What if a lowere ranked athlete is making MORE money now?
yeah i can see that.  ronnie rockels physique would draw in alot more customers than say branch warrenns would.

but it doesnt always work out like that.

example= ronnie rockel and branch warrenn.  ;D
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 03:46:26 PM
Yeah, except all contracts are not based soley on placings...placing higher doesn't neccessarily mean the athlete is better for the company.

What if a lowere ranked athlete is making MORE money now?

Then when a higher-ranked athlete will have some bargaining power when it's time to renew.

Seriously, being aware of industry pay standards is essential in EVERY industry when it comes time to negotiate contracts.  

This would empower the athletes, and ensure that new guys don't "get the shaft" because they have no point-of-reference when asking for a deal.

Keeping info secret keeps athletes at the control of the mags.  You'd prefer the athletes had more info, so they'd have more bargaining power, wouldn't you Bob?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on March 24, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
Bob, you should call into the radio show about this.  Seeing as you're taking the night off.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
You'd prefer the athletes had more info, so they'd have more bargaining power, wouldn't you Bob?
Who's to say the competitors don't talk to Bob about this?

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Chick on March 24, 2008, 03:49:37 PM
Then when a higher-ranked athlete will have some bargaining power when it's time to renew.

Seriously, being aware of industry pay standards is essential in EVERY industry when it comes time to negotiate contracts.  

This would empower the athletes, and ensure that new guys don't "get the shaft" because they have no point-of-reference when asking for a deal.

Keeping info secret keeps athletes at the control of the mags.  You'd prefer the athletes had more info, so they'd have more bargaining power, wouldn't you Bob?

Just because the public desn't know what the athletes are making, doesn't mean the athletes don't know....making the pubic aware does nothing for the athltes or their negotiating power... If you're IN the industry as an athlete, you're already aware
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
If you're IN the industry as an athlete, you're already aware

How so?

Are they issued documentation upon receiving their pro card?

Do you advise them?  Who else advises them?  Do you work for either of the 2 big companies who negotiate with athletes (could create a conflict of interest)?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 03:55:04 PM
Who's to say the competitors don't talk to Bob about this?

I'm sure some do.

Not all of them.  Some guys are approached by MD while still amateurs.  Should they call Bob?  Does Bob have time for dozens of amateurs calling him?  What happens if Bob decides to take a week off?  Who advises them then?

My point is that step 1 in athletes getting MARKER VALUE for their services is actually knowing what market value even is.   Imagine if the NFL top draft picks didn't know what the guy got the year before.  How mickey-mouse would that shit be?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Chick on March 24, 2008, 03:59:08 PM
How so?

Are they issued documentation upon receiving their pro card?

Do you advise them?  Who else advises them?  Do you work for either of the 2 big companies who negotiate with athletes (could create a conflict of interest)?

How?

Same way you know of anything that transpires here on Getbig....you're in the mix, you're aware of whats going around, you know other people on Getbig and share info.....etc

I advise people when they request my advices....
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 04:19:20 PM
At least you admit you're coming to the real sources for info since you're "producer" and constant bridge burning that has blown up in your face.  8)

Bottom line: There isn't enough news to report about bodybuilding to have texts sent to your phone. Unlike other media industries, BB media isn't recognizable on who's broke the most stories and who's first, etc. Of course, who am I to speak of such?

Ike has dealt with Monster Mass Media Companies like Flex, M&F, and Hardbody.com ::), and I was just toying with billion dollar corporations like Yahoo and Fox among others.

He also doesn't understand his self-ownings everytime he seriously defends MusclePhone.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: The Squadfather on March 24, 2008, 04:21:08 PM
Bottom line: There isn't enough news to report about bodybuilding to have texts sent to your phone. Unlike other media industries, BB media isn't recognizable on who's broke the most stories and who's first, etc. Of course, who am I to speak of such?

Ike has dealt with Monster Mass Media Companies like Flex, M&F, and Hardbody.com ::), and I was just toying with billion dollar corporations like Yahoo and Fox among others.

He also doesn't understand his self-ownings everytime he seriously defends MusclePhone.
i have to agree with this, it's hard to imagine that there's so much going on in bb'ing that you need texts sent to your phone, if that was the case then why is the main G and O board cluttered with bullshit instead of bodybuilding stuff?
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 04:26:17 PM
i have to agree with this, it's hard to imagine that there's so much going on in bb'ing that you need texts sent to your phone, if that was the case then why is the main G and O board cluttered with bullshit instead of bodybuilding stuff?

I'm sure Ike is counting on MusclePhone to pay off his Rolls Royce Snow Plow ::)
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: Lift Studios on March 24, 2008, 04:27:40 PM
Bottom line: There isn't enough news to report about bodybuilding to have texts sent to your phone. Unlike other media industries, BB media isn't recognizable on who's broke the most stories and who's first, etc. Of course, who am I to speak of such?

Ike has dealt with Monster Mass Media Companies like Flex, M&F, and Hardbody.com ::), and I was just toying with billion dollar corporations like Yahoo and Fox among others.

He also doesn't understand his self-ownings everytime he seriously defends MusclePhone.

We read it the first time tiny-tit. Don't you have a show to "produce" during this time?

If you could read I mentioned this is just the first phase to Muscle Phone. Keep stalking my posts and you'll have more to complain about.
 :-*
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: The Squadfather on March 24, 2008, 04:27:51 PM
I'm sure Ike is counting on MusclePhone to pay off his Rolls Royce Snow Plow ::)
Ike isn't stupid though, i'm sure he's not losing money on the venture, he's making some coin on it somehow you can count on that.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
We read it the first time tiny-tit. Don't you have a show to "produce" during this time?

If you could read I mentioned this is just the first phase to Muscle Phone. Keep stalking my posts and you'll have more to complain about.
 :-*
Too cool for school that Ike

(http://a691.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_4965c5ad897f6defe961d08cc3743242.jpg)
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: candidizzle on March 24, 2008, 04:41:06 PM
let me guess...lift is the fat guy with no muscle....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: mass 04 on March 24, 2008, 04:43:48 PM
let me guess...lift is the fat guy with no muscle....  ;D ;D ;D
second from left.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: dearth on March 24, 2008, 06:09:44 PM
does the pure notion of heath not posing for you upset you as much as it apparently did musclesmoe studios?

Heath is with AMI and that is that. End of story.

Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 24, 2008, 06:10:19 PM
Isaac is sure owning a lot of minds in this thread ;D
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: dearth on March 24, 2008, 06:13:35 PM
the only thing lift "owns" is a well lubed muscle phone (affectionately named phil) shoved up his ass

Isaac is sure owning a lot of minds in this thread ;D
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 24, 2008, 06:18:07 PM
the only thing lift "owns" is a well lubed muscle phone (affectionately named phil) shoved up his ass


Why the hate bro, for real?  Isaac's a good dude and is just trying to make a living.

FWIW I think Ed's a good dude too.
Title: Re: HEATH to sign with MD??
Post by: thisiskeith12 on March 24, 2008, 06:30:44 PM
If you could read I mentioned this is just the first phase to Muscle Phone. Keep stalking my posts and you'll have more to complain about.
 :-*

And let me guess, the second phase is after you have gotten so many people to sign up for your text service they start getting annoying texts about buying their Olympia tickets/BB.com sales/integrated text ads.

No complaints from me, I didn't sign up for it.  :-*