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Title: Be Completely Honest ....
Post by: Trev on April 07, 2008, 06:18:43 AM
Wouldn't you rather look like this?? CLASSIC
http://www.timinvermont.com/vintage/sp000063.jpg
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Post by: _bruce_ on April 07, 2008, 06:22:02 AM
One of my goals - don't dig the throbbing penis look of today, though sometimes it's impressive.
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Post by: Mars on April 07, 2008, 06:25:42 AM
he looks hundred times better then our current mr olympia.
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Post by: Trev on April 07, 2008, 06:29:42 AM
he looks hundred times better then our current mr olympia.
AGREED. To look human is SO much more appealing to ALL.
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Post by: DK II on April 07, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
this thread is totally unnecessary if you have musclephone.
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Post by: Mars on April 07, 2008, 06:43:59 AM
AGREED. To look human is SO much more appealing to ALL.

how much did he weigh back then?
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Post by: GoneAway on April 07, 2008, 07:13:41 AM
sure, reeves had a great physique and this pose suited him very well. if the judges went back to judging physiques that were standard in the 1950s, a top natty bber could be mr olympia.

the way bbing is, - bigger is better. we've moved on in terms of what is possible muscle-wise and condition-wise, which is y guys who look like Reeves did would place dead last. maybe its a sad fact, but i think a more dexter jackson type of physique is what the ideal should be for this day and age.
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Post by: Trev on April 07, 2008, 07:20:36 AM
how much did he weigh back then?
Not sure - Prob around the 205/210 mark, BUT does it matter? Bodybuilding is visual.
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Post by: spinnis on April 07, 2008, 07:30:12 AM
Om quite sure almost everyone can look like that just by a few years naturally in the gym..
Or maby 1 year with a little cycle.
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on April 07, 2008, 07:51:49 AM
Om quite sure almost everyone can look like that just by a few years naturally in the gym..
Or maby 1 year with a little cycle.

Please take a picture of your self to prove what u just said ;)
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Post by: DK II on April 07, 2008, 08:05:36 AM
Please take a picture of your self to prove what u just said ;)

"Spinnis" looked like Reeves before he even touched weights, and like arnold after one year training.

Next summer he's gonna do his first cycle and then take the O in autumn.  ::)
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Post by: The Squadfather on April 07, 2008, 08:09:15 AM
he looked good, strong too, i heard he could flat press a pair of 80's.
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Post by: dave19 on April 07, 2008, 09:52:58 AM
he looked good, strong too, i heard he could flat press a pair of 80's.

Are you talking about dumbbell benchpress ?
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Post by: Man of Steel on April 07, 2008, 09:54:31 AM
I watched a big german sheppard take a huge dump in my neighbor's yard yesterday....I laughed for ten minutes.
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Post by: tom joad on April 07, 2008, 10:00:57 AM
he looked good, strong too, i heard he could flat press a pair of 80's.

they were very shaky reps, but impressive nonetheless . . .
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Post by: 240 is Back on April 07, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
I watched a big german sheppard take a huge dump in my neighbor's yard yesterday....I laughed for ten minutes.

is your neighbor the type of guy who wouldn't like such surprise fertilization?
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Post by: Man of Steel on April 07, 2008, 10:04:22 AM
is your neighbor the type of guy who wouldn't like such surprise fertilization?

He's a good guy.....his Mustang gets loud late a night, but I ain't mad a man in love with his musclecar.   The dogshit made for good beer conversation.
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Post by: dave19 on April 07, 2008, 10:04:57 AM
they were very shaky reps, but impressive nonetheless . . .

What excersise are u talking about ?
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Post by: OneMoreRep on April 07, 2008, 10:08:29 AM
That look would be great.  There truly is no need for anything more. 

That build is:

-Liked by ALL women

-Works perfectly with suits & all clothing (I've yet to see a Pro bodybuilder that doesn't wear tailored clothing or the classic windbreakers with a big white T-shirt)

-Not scene as a freak of nature

-Healthy

What bodybuilding should truly be,
"1"
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Post by: tom joad on April 07, 2008, 10:14:26 AM
What excersise are u talking about ?

you don't think that being able to bench your bodyweight is impressive?
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Post by: dave19 on April 07, 2008, 10:16:36 AM
you don't think that being able to bench your bodyweight is impressive?

By no means is that impressive
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Post by: Overload on April 07, 2008, 10:17:23 AM
That look would be great.  There truly is no need for anything more. 

That build is:

-Liked by ALL women

-Works perfectly with suits & all clothing (I've yet to see a Pro bodybuilder that doesn't wear tailored clothing or the classic windbreakers with a big white T-shirt)

-Not scene as a freak of nature

-Healthy

What bodybuilding should truly be,
"1"

Exactly.

8)
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Post by: tom joad on April 07, 2008, 10:18:50 AM
By no means is that impressive

maybe Reeves was training for cuts and not size?
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Post by: dave19 on April 07, 2008, 10:20:45 AM
maybe Reeves was training for cuts and not size?

 ::)
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Post by: Noel Fuller on April 07, 2008, 10:24:09 AM
I looked like that when I was 11
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Post by: sinbad on April 07, 2008, 10:56:25 AM
The lady who lives across the street backed into my car yesterday, That sucked! I was just about to sell it.
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Post by: 240 is Back on April 07, 2008, 11:20:54 AM
The lady who lives across the street backed into my car yesterday, That sucked! I was just about to sell it.

tell her she just bought a new car.
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Post by: DK II on April 07, 2008, 01:57:32 PM
I watched a big german sheppard take a huge dump in my neighbor's yard yesterday....I laughed for ten minutes.

A big german sheppard took a dump in your neighbor's yard?

Did he have any sheep with him, or a dog?
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 12:14:40 AM
More - http://athlete.ru/fotos/profi/reeves/steve_reeves_013.jpg

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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 12:50:54 AM
trev, u fail to realise that although reeves has a perfect physique for attracting women, it's nothing special on even an amateur bbing stage. he lacks cuts and size. if this was a show judged on who could be the most artistic with their physique, or who has the most aesthetic physique, guys like reeves, arnold and co. would clean house with most guys from today. but thats not the case.
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 01:03:07 AM
trev, u fail to realise that although reeves has a perfect physique for attracting women, it's nothing special on even an amateur bbing stage. he lacks cuts and size. if this was a show judged on who could be the most artistic with their physique, or who has the most aesthetic physique, guys like reeves, arnold and co. would clean house with most guys from today. but thats not the case.
You're missing the point. I'm not talking about modern competition, I'm talking about The Bodybuilding Lifestyle - IF you don't stand a chance of making a fantastic living from Pro Bodybuilding, why would you risk your life to try and achieve the modern pro look. They look disgusting. SO, I'm saying shouldn't us "Lifestyle Bodybuilders" should for the Greek Ideals demonstrated by Reeves, Nubret, Zane?
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 01:15:18 AM
well, it comes down to what ur building your body for. women? to be the big man on campus? functional strength with a little muscle on the side? big big, but no intention to diet down to comp size?

everyone has different goals. the ideal to one might not be idea to another.
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Post by: DK II on April 08, 2008, 01:18:51 AM
well, it comes down to what ur building your body for. women? to be the big man on campus? functional strength with a little muscle on the side? big big, but no intention to diet down to comp size?

everyone has different goals. the ideal to one might not be idea to another.

Wow, we have an Aristoteles among us.  ::) ::)
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 01:20:27 AM
well, it comes down to what ur building your body for. women? to be the big man on campus? functional strength with a little muscle on the side? big big, but no intention to diet down to comp size?

everyone has different goals. the ideal to one might not be idea to another.
Indeed. If you have plans to compete at National Level and beyond, you will indeed NEED to shoot beyond this ideal. In today's world, I can't for the life of me see why anyone would want to risk their life to stand up on stage and flex for a bunch of pencil neck judges who will judge more on who pays their wages than what they are looking at.
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 01:46:18 AM
Indeed. If you have plans to compete at National Level and beyond, you will indeed NEED to shoot beyond this ideal. In today's world, I can't for the life of me see why anyone would want to risk their life to stand up on stage and flex for a bunch of pencil neck judges who will judge more on who pays their wages than what they are looking at.

can you explain this bolded part a bit more?

what are they doing that is risking their life moreso than those who shoot for the Greek ideal?
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 01:49:13 AM
can you explain this bolded part a bit more?

what are they doing that is risking their life moreso than those who shoot for the Greek ideal?
DRUGS Mate. NOBODY can place high even at National level without taking life risking drugs any more.
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Post by: DK II on April 08, 2008, 01:55:15 AM
can you explain this bolded part a bit more?

what are they doing that is risking their life moreso than those who shoot for the Greek ideal?

lol, what kind of idiot are you?
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 02:08:20 AM
DRUGS Mate. NOBODY can place high even at National level without taking life risking drugs any more.

that's what weight classes are for. as for the drugs, i very much doubt theyre as life threatening as u think. only in the doses that are needed to maintain a heavy/super heavyweight physique. there are guys that have been using for years in their youth and even today, that have lived to an old age. zane, oliva, schwarzy, pearl, park, scott, robinson, and theyre just some of the top level guys that come to mind.
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Post by: TrueGrit on April 08, 2008, 02:10:33 AM
He looks great but it's a big minus that he never rolled his trunks into the crack of his ass and showed us them glutes - that would have got some serious cheers.
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Post by: affy on April 08, 2008, 02:20:23 AM
he looked good, strong too, i heard he could flat press a pair of 80's.

even though you're joking...reeves was actually pretty strong

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?4ec7ea6787.jpg
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 02:46:49 AM
that's what weight classes are for. as for the drugs, i very much doubt theyre as life threatening as u think. only in the doses that are needed to maintain a heavy/super heavyweight physique. there are guys that have been using for years in their youth and even today, that have lived to an old age. zane, oliva, schwarzy, pearl, park, scott, robinson, and theyre just some of the top level guys that come to mind.
You've just named guys from YESTERYEAR!!!!!! Ive already stated, I am talking about TODAY, bodybuilding 2008. Don't be deluded.
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 03:40:51 AM
You've just named guys from YESTERYEAR!!!!!! Ive already stated, I am talking about TODAY, bodybuilding 2008. Don't be deluded.

yes, the drugs are different and there's more out there, but i don't see how it's anymore dangerous than yesteryear's drugs, provided they're using similar doses and similar drugs (dianabol, deca, test, etc).

guys like sergio oliva, arnold, robby robinson, lou ferrigno - they're the size of middle to heavyweights today. i mean, arnold weighed a reported 240-250lbs at his biggest at 6'2" height, which isn't small by any means. his quads and calves were the size of some pros today, not even mentioning his upper body. so if he's still around and was reportedly popping dbols like candy, among other drugs, how does this make it any more dangerous than pros who are on similar stacks and similar sizes to the yesteryear pros?
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 03:47:41 AM
yes, the drugs are different and there's more out there, but i don't see how it's anymore dangerous than yesteryear's drugs, provided they're using similar doses and similar drugs (dianabol, deca, test, etc).

guys like sergio oliva, arnold, robby robinson, lou ferrigno - they're the size of middle to heavyweights today. i mean, arnold weighed a reported 240-250lbs at his biggest at 6'2" height, which isn't small by any means. his quads and calves were the size of some pros today, not even mentioning his upper body. so if he's still around and was reportedly popping dbols like candy, among other drugs, how does this make it any more dangerous than pros who are on similar stacks and similar sizes to the yesteryear pros?
You are losing your own argument. Yes, the guys of yesterday were on drugs and yes they were HUGE, but todays guys are loading on ridiculous amounts of drugs, many of which are far more dangerous. The whole point is that us mere mortals who bodybuild as a lifestyle, not to compete should aim to look like the Steve Reeves of this world.
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 04:04:17 AM
You are losing your own argument. Yes, the guys of yesterday were on drugs and yes they were HUGE, but todays guys are loading on ridiculous amounts of drugs, many of which are far more dangerous. The whole point is that us mere mortals who bodybuild as a lifestyle, not to compete should aim to look like the Steve Reeves of this world.

we dont know exactly how much these guys are using, nor do we know how much the guys from yesteryear used, so there isn't a whole lot to be argued about.

there was alot of big guys in the late 60's and 70's who did train hard, yes, but ur suggesting that their training was superior to the guys of today, so much so that their drug usage was considerably less? if anything, there's more training knowledge today than there was back then.
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 04:14:49 AM
we dont know exactly how much these guys are using, nor do we know how much the guys from yesteryear used, so there isn't a whole lot to be argued about.

there was alot of big guys in the late 60's and 70's who did train hard, yes, but ur suggesting that their training was superior to the guys of today, so much so that their drug usage was considerably less? if anything, there's more training knowledge today than there was back then.
No I'm not.
The drugs the guys are using today were not available then.
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 04:20:21 AM
No I'm not.
The drugs the guys are using today were not available then.

well, im pretty sure dianabol, deca and test as the main musclebuildes, were. igf-1, slin and gh obviously not, but i have yet to see studies that say the latter 3 types of drugs are worse for you than the first 3 that i mentioned.
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 04:25:29 AM
well, im pretty sure dianabol, deca and test as the main musclebuildes, were. igf-1, slin and gh obviously not, but i have yet to see studies that say the latter 3 types of drugs are worse for you than the first 3 that i mentioned.
ANYbody with ANY knowledge of bodybuilding in the 21st century knows I'm right.
I am finishing by re-stating that Bodybuilding has COMPLETELY lost it's way. We should be seeking the Human Ideal, that's plenty of Muscle for us and looks super impressive in and out of clothes - http://www.musclememory.com/images/vintage/ReevesSteve_6-Spartan.jpg
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Post by: GoneAway on April 08, 2008, 04:32:06 AM
ANYbody with ANY knowledge of bodybuilding in the 21st century knows I'm right.
I am finishing by re-stating that Bodybuilding has COMPLETELY lost it's way. We should be seeking the Human Ideal, that's plenty of Muscle for us and looks super impressive in and out of clothes - http://www.musclememory.com/images/vintage/ReevesSteve_6-Spartan.jpg

well, without studies, im not gonna believe either way.

and ur thoughts on what 'we' should do are flawed in so many ways.
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Post by: Trev on April 08, 2008, 04:47:36 AM
well, without studies, im not gonna believe either way.

and ur thoughts on what 'we' should do are flawed in so many ways.
well, without studies, im not gonna believe either way.  You are very new to this game arn't you??!!!
and ur thoughts on what 'we' should do are flawed in so many ways. Its an opinion backed up by 99% of REAL Bodybuilders and probably all of the old timers YOU mentioned mate. Nuff said.
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Post by: DK II on April 08, 2008, 04:50:51 AM
stop fighting, guys.

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Post by: _bruce_ on April 08, 2008, 06:44:16 AM
Hercules > Reeves > all bodybuilders today combined.

Thanks for playing  8)