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Title: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Eldon on April 11, 2008, 07:35:31 AM

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm (http://www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm)
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: dario73 on April 11, 2008, 08:01:38 AM
Islam is a joke. It was created by a child molester in order to condemn Jews and Christians. Also that guy was eating camel dung every day. He needed to create something to survive and support his underage wife and camels.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Decker on April 11, 2008, 11:08:53 AM
What constitutes a religion?
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: w8tlftr on April 11, 2008, 11:10:02 AM
What constitutes a religion?

dogma over spirituality.

Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: The ChemistV2 on April 11, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
Excellent Post. Explains why wherever there are large groups of Muslims concentrated, chaos and violence ensue.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 11, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
This post is bang-on. Very high opening and I'd imagine extremely difficult for any muslim to rebut.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Fury on April 11, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
This post is bang-on. Very high opening and I'd imagine extremely difficult for any muslim to rebut.

Yup, Abdul "Mars" Mohammed is usually on these types of threads like a fly to shit too.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: shootfighter1 on April 11, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
One of the real problems with many Muslims is that they do not integrate into the society around them.  They try to bring all their traditions, religion, and way of life to the new area by grouping with other Muslims.  Good people are good people no matter where they come from IMO, but stepping back, I see how this causes a lot of problems where they immigrate in larger #s.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2008, 04:05:30 PM
One of the real problems with many Muslims is that they do not integrate into the society around them.  They try to bring all their traditions, religion, and way of life to the new area by grouping with other Muslims.  Good people are good people no matter where they come from IMO, but stepping back, I see how this causes a lot of problems where they immigrate in larger #s.

Plenty of religions/cultures are like that and refuse to integrate.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 11, 2008, 04:08:36 PM
Plenty of religions/cultures are like that and refuse to integrate.

Ah so it's OK for islam to do it too! Move along everybody nothing to see here... ::) moron
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2008, 04:19:41 PM
Ah so it's OK for islam to do it too! Move along everybody nothing to see here... ::) moron

Not my point, ijit!! :)

It's friday and you're probably tired so I'll spell it out. Puritans came to America because they were so uptight all the english hated their stupid asses. Jews can't go 32 seconds without letting you know they jewish, PRs can be in the US 50 years without learning english, and so on. To some extent all of the immigrant groups retained some culture but over time became more integrated. Now, people are coming in so fast that we end up accomodating them instead of them having to fit in.

I'm against all immigration if it's not girls from Brazil with big asses. But that's just me. :) I would also add girls from Jordan and or Kuwait (with big asses) to that list.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 11, 2008, 04:24:53 PM
Not my point, ijit!! :)

It's friday and you're probably tired so I'll spell it out. Puritans came to America because they were so uptight all the english hated their stupid asses. Jews can't go 32 seconds without letting you know they jewish, PRs can be in the US 50 years without learning english, and so on. To some extent all of the immigrant groups retained some culture but over time became more integrated. Now, people are coming in so fast that we end up accomodating them instead of them having to fit in.

I'm against all immigration if it's not girls from Brazil with big asses. But that's just me. :) I would also add girls from Jordan and or Kuwait (with big asses) to that list.

I thought the puritans WERE English? It was political reasoning for setting sail because their particular beliefs were under heavy scrutiny in England. Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: shootfighter1 on April 11, 2008, 04:50:46 PM
Yes, yes...bring on the brazilian girls!  I'm w/ you man!

Its courtesy and respect to at least somewhat integrate into the culture you move into...otherwise stay
where your roots are.  If I moved to another country with different ways than the US, I would at very least try to blend those traditions & ways with mine...in fact, its down-right rude not too.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Purge_WTF on April 11, 2008, 07:19:45 PM
  To my estimation, Islam, Ultra-Liberalism and Neoconservatism are the three most destructive philosophies in the world today.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Mars on April 11, 2008, 11:33:26 PM

I'm against all immigration if it's not girls from Brazil with big asses. But that's just me. :) I would also add girls from Jordan and or Kuwait (with big asses) to that list.

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 12, 2008, 01:04:47 AM
  To my estimation, Islam, Ultra-Liberalism and Neoconservatism are the three most destructive philosophies in the world today.

Despite my disgust with liberalism and my support with what you negatively paint as neoconservatism those two combined and multiplied 100 times over wouldn't even begin to compare to what Islam has done to the world.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 12, 2008, 01:12:38 AM
Not my point, ijit!! :)

It's friday and you're probably tired so I'll spell it out. Puritans came to America because they were so uptight all the english hated their stupid asses. Jews can't go 32 seconds without letting you know they jewish, PRs can be in the US 50 years without learning english, and so on. To some extent all of the immigrant groups retained some culture but over time became more integrated. Now, people are coming in so fast that we end up accomodating them instead of them having to fit in.

I'm against all immigration if it's not girls from Brazil with big asses. But that's just me. :) I would also add girls from Jordan and or Kuwait (with big asses) to that list.

Good point but I think throughout history Jews have been isolated more from the dislike from the culture around them than anything else.  In the US a lot of Jews have become very assimilated and so intigrated that the culture of the Jewish faith is almost threatened because this is the first place where Jewish culture has been so accepted.  Everywhere else for centuries Jews have been disliked and that similarly kept the culture intact and isolated because there were almost no members leaving the community and no outsiders coming in. 

And most of the Jews I know don't really advertise that fact since we know that not everyone has much of an understanding of our faith and there is still a lot of ignorance out there towards us.   
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Mars on April 12, 2008, 01:13:21 AM
Despite my disgust with liberalism and my support with what you negatively paint as neoconservatism those two combined and multiplied 100 times over wouldn't even begin to compare to what Islam has done to the world.

you are a total fool, neo conservatism plays a huge part in what radical islam is today.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 12, 2008, 01:16:18 AM
you are a total fool, neo conservatism plays a huge part in what radical islam is today.

Sure it does ::)

No more than the murder, torture, and rape of innocents by Islam the world over is accepted in the name of "tolerance" and "diplomacy" of liberals.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Mars on April 12, 2008, 01:22:42 AM
You know that the mujahideen where Reagans freedom fighters do you? the same people who are now called Al Qaeda and radical islamists.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 12, 2008, 01:39:10 AM
You know that the mujahideen where Reagans freedom fighters do you? the same people who are now called Al Qaeda and radical islamists.

Just because we might have supported scum at one point in no way means they weren't exactly that before we got there.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 12, 2008, 04:13:39 AM
Mars wish to refute islamism and islamic supremicism hasn't existed since day one of muhammads revelations?
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: OneBigMan on April 12, 2008, 05:21:10 AM
If Islam itself is not some religious cult then why is there a Nation of Islam sect in this country that is headed by who else but that militant muslim minister who calls himself Louis Farrakhan.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 12, 2008, 05:50:45 AM
That's a sect of islam.

Apple aren't a cult, but there is a cult like community of Apple Mac users.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: OneBigMan on April 12, 2008, 06:12:38 AM
But why is this sect called THE Nation of Islam and what is a whole Nation of Islam doing here in America?

Why aren't they somewhere in the middle east?
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 12, 2008, 06:23:28 AM
But why is this sect called THE Nation of Islam and what is a whole Nation of Islam doing here in America?

Why aren't they somewhere in the middle east?

Wasn't it a movement by blacks to distances themselves from the "white" religion of Christianity?
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: OneBigMan on April 12, 2008, 06:35:01 AM
Whatever it was intended for, they are still muslims and that makes them associated with arab middle easterners.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: w8tlftr on April 12, 2008, 08:03:14 PM
But why is this sect called THE Nation of Islam and what is a whole Nation of Islam doing here in America?

Why aren't they somewhere in the middle east?

Because there's no Popeye's in Durkastan.  ;D

Sorry. That's was too hard to resist.

Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 12, 2008, 08:36:35 PM
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.


good post Nordic, I wanted to move it, but you made the case ;)
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: haider on April 12, 2008, 08:47:42 PM
haha, is there something Eldon?

Bet you won't say it to my face though  >:(


 ;D
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 13, 2008, 12:05:10 AM
Excellent Post. Explains why wherever there are large groups of Muslims concentrated, chaos and violence ensue.

THAT RATIONALE EXPLAINS WHITES AS WELL...
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 13, 2008, 04:26:53 AM
good post Nordic, I wanted to move it, but you made the case ;)

Hahaha delusional!

THAT RATIONALE EXPLAINS WHITES AS WELL...

Racist idiot lacking enough intelligence to bring anything to the discussion. This is why your race has so many down and outs.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 13, 2008, 08:46:21 AM
Hahaha delusional!

Racist idiot lacking enough intelligence to bring anything to the discussion. This is why your race has so many down and outs.

I GUESS THAT IS WHY WHITES ARE THE FACE OF POVERTY, WELFARE, DRUG ABUSE, SPOUSE ABUSE, CAR JACKINGS, MASS MURDERS, PEDOPHILIA, DRUG DEALERS, HOMELESS AND GANG MEMBERS IN AMERIKKKA...DON'T GET ANGRY WHEN THE WAYS OF YOUR OWN ARE REVEALED FOR ALL TO SEE.

SON OF PERDITION...YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED!!!!!
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 13, 2008, 08:54:27 AM
I GUESS THAT IS WHY WHITES ARE THE FACE OF POVERTY, WELFARE, DRUG ABUSE, SPOUSE ABUSE, CAR JACKINGS, MASS MURDERS, PEDOPHILIA, DRUG DEALERS, HOMELESS AND GANG MEMBERS IN AMERIKKKA...DON'T GET ANGRY WHEN THE WAYS OF YOUR OWN ARE REVEALED FOR ALL TO SEE.

SON OF PERDITION...YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED!!!!!

Huh? Welfare, drug abuse, spouse abuse, car jackings, drug dealing, homeless, gangs? All traits of ethnic minorities young jihadist.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: The ChemistV2 on April 13, 2008, 10:15:43 AM
I GUESS THAT IS WHY WHITES ARE THE FACE OF POVERTY, WELFARE, DRUG ABUSE, SPOUSE ABUSE, CAR JACKINGS, MASS MURDERS, PEDOPHILIA, DRUG DEALERS, HOMELESS AND GANG MEMBERS IN AMERIKKKA...DON'T GET ANGRY WHEN THE WAYS OF YOUR OWN ARE REVEALED FOR ALL TO SEE.

SON OF PERDITION...YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED!!!!!
This is a joke, right? Welfare, car-jackings, gang members...the face of WHITE PEOPLE? That's one of the funniest things I've ever read.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 13, 2008, 11:16:42 AM
I GUESS THAT IS WHY WHITES ARE THE FACE OF POVERTY, WELFARE, DRUG ABUSE, SPOUSE ABUSE, CAR JACKINGS, MASS MURDERS, PEDOPHILIA, DRUG DEALERS, HOMELESS AND GANG MEMBERS IN AMERIKKKA...DON'T GET ANGRY WHEN THE WAYS OF YOUR OWN ARE REVEALED FOR ALL TO SEE.

SON OF PERDITION...YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED!!!!!

I just think this is good..
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: drkaje on April 13, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
Huh? Welfare, drug abuse, spouse abuse, car jackings, drug dealing, homeless, gangs? All traits of ethnic minorities young jihadist.

Do the math. Only 13% of americans are 'black'. Poverty affects far more whites than it does blacks and there are way more white people living below the poverty level than blacks. Also, most homeless men are veterans. Forget what the media shows us on the news and look at the numbers. White people are getting off welfare at a faster rate than blacks but way more whites are getting a check on mother's day than blacks. Spouse abuse... I don't know if you've ever tried getting away with hitting a black chick but it really isn't something I'd advise. You're far more likely to read a sob story about a white chick getting abused than a black one. No idea about the car jackings but most of the homeless people I've seen are white. Unless you're talking about crack white people probably use more illegal and legal drugs than minorities. You might be right about gangs but the majority really doesn't need gangs to any extent.

Poverty is affecting white people, believe it. I'll put it a different way.... black people don't really vote in huge numbers, if poverty weren't affecting white people it wouldn't be a political issue because polititians don't care about black people.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 13, 2008, 01:28:11 PM
Poverty is affecting white people, believe it. I'll put it a different way.... black people don't really vote in huge numbers, if poverty weren't affecting white people it wouldn't be a political issue because polititians don't care about black people.

Blacks don't really care about politics nor do many that do really take the time to understand it.  Politicians care about votes so if blacks largely don't vote why SHOULD they care?
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 13, 2008, 01:42:08 PM
Do the math. Only 13% of americans are 'black'. Poverty affects far more whites than it does blacks and there are way more white people living below the poverty level than blacks. Also, most homeless men are veterans. Forget what the media shows us on the news and look at the numbers. White people are getting off welfare at a faster rate than blacks but way more whites are getting a check on mother's day than blacks. Spouse abuse... I don't know if you've ever tried getting away with hitting a black chick but it really isn't something I'd advise. You're far more likely to read a sob story about a white chick getting abused than a black one. No idea about the car jackings but most of the homeless people I've seen are white. Unless you're talking about crack white people probably use more illegal and legal drugs than minorities. You might be right about gangs but the majority really doesn't need gangs to any extent.

Poverty is affecting white people, believe it. I'll put it a different way.... black people don't really vote in huge numbers, if poverty weren't affecting white people it wouldn't be a political issue because polititians don't care about black people.

I believe it, but ratios are in the favour of whites, deal with it.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 13, 2008, 01:46:22 PM
Also, most homeless men are veterans.


Or at least they say they are.  When I was living in DC, I used to have beggars come up to me claiming they were a "Vietnam Vet".  Of course, most of the ones who said that were young enough that the only way they could have been telling the truth is if they has enlisted at age 5.   ::)


(incedentally, 3 out of 4 were black.  might just be due to the demographics of the city, but it makes me wonder.)
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: drkaje on April 13, 2008, 02:05:12 PM
I believe it, but ratios are in the favour of whites, deal with it.

How does being poor favor anyone? It's not something most people would ba prout of but you're kinda special anyways. :)
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 13, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
Do the math. Only 13% of americans are 'black'. Poverty affects far more whites than it does blacks and there are way more white people living below the poverty level than blacks. Also, most homeless men are veterans. Forget what the media shows us on the news and look at the numbers. White people are getting off welfare at a faster rate than blacks but way more whites are getting a check on mother's day than blacks. Spouse abuse... I don't know if you've ever tried getting away with hitting a black chick but it really isn't something I'd advise. You're far more likely to read a sob story about a white chick getting abused than a black one. No idea about the car jackings but most of the homeless people I've seen are white. Unless you're talking about crack white people probably use more illegal and legal drugs than minorities. You might be right about gangs but the majority really doesn't need gangs to any extent.

Poverty is affecting white people, believe it. I'll put it a different way.... black people don't really vote in huge numbers, if poverty weren't affecting white people it wouldn't be a political issue because polititians don't care about black people.

As nodick said, look at the ratios.. When you adjust for population, black people collect welfare and commit crimes at a much higher rate.

I've lived in Ohio and NYC.. I've seen both sides, and my subjective experience has to call bs on what you wrote.  ::) Politicians go out of their way to play appologist to black people.. The only thing where I think the government purposely tries to hurt black population is through the war on drugs.
Title: Re: Islam is not a religion
Post by: drkaje on April 13, 2008, 03:12:29 PM
As nodick said, look at the ratios.. When you adjust for population, black people collect welfare and commit crimes at a much higher rate.

I've lived in Ohio and NYC.. I've seen both sides, and my subjective experience has to call bs on what you wrote.  ::) Politicians go out of their way to play appologist to black people.. The only thing where I think the government purposely tries to hurt black population is through the war on drugs.

That's silly, even for you. What difference does the "rate" mean when it all comes down to money? If welfare ended today... more white people would be affected. There is no war on drugs, man. It's a huge govt boondogle, a bridge to nowhere or whatever else you'd like to call it.

Aside from Bill Clinton, blacks have never really voted for anyone. Blacks generally vote against someone. Polititians know this and pay lip service to blacks so they don't get all uppity and actually vote. They pulled a brilliant move in advancing Obama because some black people are actually stupid enough to believe he represents them. They're just as stupid as those who thought Hillary represented them. Most Americans aren't of the economic status where who is president actually affects their lfe to any extent. This election will probably have a pretty big black turnout if Obama gets the nomination. Even though their financial lives won't actually change there are a lot of olf-timers who would love to see a black president in their lifetime.