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Title: Lesson Learned
Post by: zeckard on April 14, 2008, 12:45:54 PM
Hey guys,

I bought a lot of the Stealth Deca and Test E and after one shot I am done with this. The pain is unbearable and it has nothing to do with me not manning up. I went to the doctor today and it appears I have a hematoma and he put me on some antibiotics and vicadin for the quad pain. I have been unable to walk for the 5th day straight and it is horrific. I am a pretty tough guy, but I didn't think I needed to cut this stuff, but that is what I get for assuming.

When I get home tonight my syringes, gear, and all my tools are being tossed.
The good Lord is giving me a sign and I better take heed.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Exal on April 14, 2008, 12:48:19 PM
dude dont fucking throw that gear away, just fucking bake it for 30mins and you'll be fine
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benz on April 14, 2008, 12:53:44 PM
Hey guys,

I bought a lot of the Stealth Deca and Test E and after one shot I am done with this. The pain is unbearable and it has nothing to do with me not manning up. I went to the doctor today and it appears I have a hematoma and he put me on some antibiotics and vicadin for the quad pain. I have been unable to walk for the 5th day straight and it is horrific. I am a pretty tough guy, but I didn't think I needed to cut this stuff, but that is what I get for assuming.

When I get home tonight my syringes, gear, and all my tools are being tossed.
The good Lord is giving me a sign and I better take heed.


the good lord wants you to waste your money, dont listen to him, come to satan's side!
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: zeckard on April 14, 2008, 12:56:44 PM
BENZ YOU ARE CRAZY!!!! LOL
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 14, 2008, 12:58:06 PM
whoa whoa whoa buddy...not so fast


try freezing your needles, try heating up the test, and try injecting slower
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: The Squadfather on April 14, 2008, 01:18:19 PM
sad state of affairs these days with this UG shit, don't use unless you can get your hands on some Upjohn, Steris, Schering, Organon or other legit human grade pharmacueticals, you get what you pay for, pay 30 bucks for a 10cc bottle of underground test and see what you get, can't get big if you're sick.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 14, 2008, 01:34:10 PM
whoa whoa whoa buddy...not so fast


try freezing your needles, try heating up the test, and try injecting slower
That only helps injection pain, not the inflammation, infection, cellulitis, etc that develops later.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benz on April 14, 2008, 01:39:30 PM
That only helps injection pain, not the inflammation, infection, cellulitis, etc that develops later.

another comment from candidildo rejected, hahaha
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: 4thAD on April 14, 2008, 03:39:36 PM
is this AS or just stealth. Two different labs. Stealth has been known for painful gear for a long time. Smell the gear does it smell like fuel?
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Fulgorre on April 14, 2008, 03:49:34 PM
AS has always given me great results.  It is really thick but it is cheap and it works.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 14, 2008, 05:43:46 PM
another comment from candidildo rejected, hahaha
no not really, i just dont feellike arguing with someone who has much more knowledge and experience than i do...and who is a cool guy that has helped me out.


but what i said was helpful advice for more than just the injection pain....well, the frozen needle would only be for the injection pain...but heating the gear and injecting slowly would both help reduce next day soreness
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benz on April 14, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
no not really, i just dont feellike arguing with someone who has much more knowledge and experience than i do...and who is a cool guy that has helped me out.


but what i said was helpful advice for more than just the injection pain....well, the frozen needle would only be for the injection pain...but heating the gear and injecting slowly would both help reduce next day soreness

sure  ::)
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 14, 2008, 05:54:18 PM
sure  ::)
i love you honey  :-*
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Mega Man on April 15, 2008, 01:16:55 AM
Is stealth Gear only available international?
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Rimbaud on April 15, 2008, 09:00:17 AM
That only helps injection pain, not the inflammation, infection, cellulitis, etc that develops later.

Exactly, it'll help the pain of the shot but will do nothing from the massive infection he has/had.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Rimbaud on April 15, 2008, 09:01:33 AM
no not really, i just dont feellike arguing with someone who has much more knowledge and experience than i do...and who is a cool guy that has helped me out.


but what i said was helpful advice for more than just the injection pain....well, the frozen needle would only be for the injection pain...but heating the gear and injecting slowly would both help reduce next day soreness

candi - I think you missed the point he's got an infection. Probably from either poor injection techniques &/or from bad gear.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benz on April 15, 2008, 09:06:19 AM
candi - I think you missed the point he's got an infection. Probably from either poor injection techniques &/or from bad gear.

Im sorry rimbrother but he didnt miss any point, he just gave a wrong advice, based in his null knowledge.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 15, 2008, 09:33:40 AM
candi - I think you missed the point he's got an infection. Probably from either poor injection techniques &/or from bad gear.
well see, i did miss HAT point...and yes nothing i said would help with infection.   BUT,the warming of the gear and the injecting slower would help with next day soreness...as thats what i thought was bein asked about.


i really dont mind being contradicted, as i have alo to learn and the guys are being nice when i might say ssomething slightly off the mark...   

but benz, my litttle sweet heart benz ( :-*), for soem reason i just always get sucked in to responding to that little cutie pie.
 ;D
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Rimbaud on April 15, 2008, 10:31:47 AM
well see, i did miss HAT point...and yes nothing i said would help with infection.   BUT,the warming of the gear and the injecting slower would help with next day soreness...as thats what i thought was bein asked about.

It's no big deal. Sometimes a painful shot can feel like an infection & if you get overly paranoid you'll swear it is.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: vinnyvee on April 15, 2008, 10:39:00 AM
I have been very, very fortunate over the yrs and only had a close call once. It was a painfull ordeal but no draining or excessive drama involved.
Since then I have made it a point to keep 1000mg Amoxicillan's on hand. I think the sooner you can pound your system w/the antibodies necessary the better off you'll be in the long run. That is if your certain you have an infection or worse...
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: zeckard on April 15, 2008, 01:00:13 PM
The antibiotics are helping, but the Hydrocodone isn't. The doctor perscribed me a stronger painkiller and that should do it. Surprisingly my wife gave me some homeopathic stuff that has taken the swelling down in conjuction with the antibiotics.

I am glad you guys are here because I was a scared puppy. As asked earlier, I am done with AAS. I am 272 with about 12% bf and have kept my gains from all the stuff I have taken in the past.

Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: The Squadfather on April 15, 2008, 01:02:44 PM
The antibiotics are helping, but the Hydrocodone isn't. The doctor perscribed me a stronger painkiller and that should do it. Surprisingly my wife gave me some homeopathic stuff that has taken the swelling down in conjuction with the antibiotics.

I am glad you guys are here because I was a scared puppy. As asked earlier, I am done with AAS. I am 272 with about 12% bf and have kept my gains from all the stuff I have taken in the past.


if you're honestly the size you say you are than you don't even need any gear to maintain 85-90 percent of what you built with heavy training and food, you're bodyfat might go up a little and you'll drop a little water and a tiny amount of muscle but you'll still be huge.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: zeckard on April 15, 2008, 01:08:45 PM
No lie, I have been fortunate to stay big, but you never see yourself the way others see you. I feel average or above average size, but others see me as huge and that is because I am never satisfied with mediocrity.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: StackedDec on April 15, 2008, 02:56:31 PM
My friend is doing pretty much the exact same cycle, but of eco oils test e and deca, and he hasn't had any pain or infection at all. 

While I am using the same eco test E as him, but I have gotten bad pain, swelling and was hurting for about 1/2 of my shots.  I even got a bad infection in my ass that was the size of a basketball, it was my fault though, I took 2cc's at once in an area that was already damaged and had a mini abcess.  It is ok now after about a week and a half or 2 weeks, but that was a sucky week of having a huge infection that spread halfway down my thigh. 

Ice, pain killers, and topical anit-bios were very helpful, I got much better after  3 days of proper treatment.   You don't need hydrocodone you sissy, just take 4 ibu's and you should be fine as far as pain.
Hydro kills brain cells and damages your digestive system.  It is powerful stuff.  A little pain and swelling doesn't call for narcotics.

Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 15, 2008, 03:04:41 PM
My friend is doing pretty much the exact same cycle, but of eco oils test e and deca, and he hasn't had any pain or infection at all. 

While I am using the same eco test E as him, but I have gotten bad pain, swelling and was hurting for about 1/2 of my shots.  I even got a bad infection in my ass that was the size of a basketball, it was my fault though, I took 2cc's at once in an area that was already damaged and had a mini abcess.  It is ok now after about a week and a half or 2 weeks, but that was a sucky week of having a huge infection that spread halfway down my thigh. 

Ice, pain killers, and topical anit-bios were very helpful, I got much better after  3 days of proper treatment.   You don't need hydrocodone you sissy, just take 4 ibu's and you should be fine as far as pain.
Hydro kills brain cells and damages your digestive system.  It is powerful stuff.  A little pain and swelling doesn't call for narcotics.


how does he like that eco oils deca??? any good? has he used any legit hg deca that he can make a comparison to with it????

thanks much bro
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: zeckard on April 15, 2008, 05:22:21 PM
Yeah, I am such a sissy....why must others come on here and downgrade someone else when they don't understand. You don't know if my occupation requires me to use my legs daily or not, but that is irrelevant. I forgot that some on this board are just TOUGH GUYS and don't need the help of medication.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: whitewidow on April 15, 2008, 09:09:55 PM
Hey guys,

I bought a lot of the Stealth Deca and Test E and after one shot I am done with this. The pain is unbearable and it has nothing to do with me not manning up. I went to the doctor today and it appears I have a hematoma and he put me on some antibiotics and vicadin for the quad pain. I have been unable to walk for the 5th day straight and it is horrific. I am a pretty tough guy, but I didn't think I needed to cut this stuff, but that is what I get for assuming.

When I get home tonight my syringes, gear, and all my tools are being tossed.
The good Lord is giving me a sign and I better take heed.


good job bro. health before muscles!
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: StackedDec on April 15, 2008, 09:41:02 PM
yeah, too bad you are such a pussy

about the eco deca, I have done it and it is 90% as effective mg for mg as Norma or Org. deca, and it's cheaper.  My boy that I put on a test e deca cycle is loving it.  He is in a whole 'nother world right now, making solid gains and loving life.  The key is, how much will he keep. 

I am in favor of bridging from cycle to cyle while switching compunds becasuse it is the best way to keep gains.  As long as you can stay healthy and keep sides down, why not go from cycle to cycle, if your recovery takes about the same time, and you can keep all the gains  from the first cycle and you lose less of the 2nd.  Just don't say on for too long.  I basically did 3 cycles last year all within a short time, and although I was shut down for a while, I was able to maintain almost all the gains, until I had to cut weight.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: whitewidow on April 15, 2008, 10:49:52 PM
yeah, too bad you are such a pussy

about the eco deca, I have done it and it is 90% as effective mg for mg as Norma or Org. deca, and it's cheaper.  My boy that I put on a test e deca cycle is loving it.  He is in a whole 'nother world right now, making solid gains and loving life.  The key is, how much will he keep. 

I am in favor of bridging from cycle to cyle while switching compunds becasuse it is the best way to keep gains.  As long as you can stay healthy and keep sides down, why not go from cycle to cycle, if your recovery takes about the same time, and you can keep all the gains  from the first cycle and you lose less of the 2nd.  Just don't say on for too long.  I basically did 3 cycles last year all within a short time, and although I was shut down for a while, I was able to maintain almost all the gains, until I had to cut weight.

gear effects everybody diffrently. maybe the dude is allergic to the BA or BB or whatever oil they used no reason to call the guy a pussy. You couldnt pay me to shoot one of those Advanced stealth or stealth labs sachets. yes from what I have heard its painfull stuff. I personally have not tried them but ive sseen the sachets and dealt with them lot and even the toughest dudes complained of pain just depends on the person some people get no pain from it  some do thats the way this game works. some can shoot water based winny with ease some get infection and flu right off the bat.You have to know your body well before you venture into the darkside. i personally hate even injecting watson test cyp just because its not that easy shooting yourself in the ass. I never do more than 2 injections of any compound a week.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: The Squadfather on April 16, 2008, 08:16:00 AM
Yeah, I am such a sissy....why must others come on here and downgrade someone else when they don't understand. You don't know if my occupation requires me to use my legs daily or not, but that is irrelevant. I forgot that some on this board are just TOUGH GUYS and don't need the help of medication.
don't listen to these morons man, you can build size without drugs, drugs are the easy way, like i said you've got very good size and will be fine clean.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: WillGrant on April 16, 2008, 06:48:34 PM
I dont get these threads slamming stealth/Alin..
I have been using it for the last year , a min of 1 ml of Test e a week every week plus other compounds when I cycle on,Tren A ,Test Prop,Decca,and never had any soreness , It must be an allergy to the alc or more people would be having the same problem if the gear was bad  ???
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: delta9mda on April 16, 2008, 06:49:21 PM
no not really, i just dont feellike arguing with someone who has much more knowledge and experience than i do...and who is a cool guy that has helped me out.


but what i said was helpful advice for more than just the injection pain....well, the frozen needle would only be for the injection pain...but heating the gear and injecting slowly would both help reduce next day soreness
no matter what you do, due to the hi ba/bb content you are going to get sore.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: delta9mda on April 16, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
gear effects everybody diffrently. maybe the dude is allergic to the BA or BB or whatever oil they used no reason to call the guy a pussy. You couldnt pay me to shoot one of those Advanced stealth or stealth labs sachets. yes from what I have heard its painfull stuff. I personally have not tried them but ive sseen the sachets and dealt with them lot and even the toughest dudes complained of pain just depends on the person some people get no pain from it  some do thats the way this game works. some can shoot water based winny with ease some get infection and flu right off the bat.You have to know your body well before you venture into the darkside. i personally hate even injecting watson test cyp just because its not that easy shooting yourself in the ass. I never do more than 2 injections of any compound a week.
damn ww, only 2x per week. man up bro, pu##y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benchmstr on April 16, 2008, 08:27:59 PM
don't listen to these morons man, you can build size without drugs, drugs are the easy way, like i said you've got very good size and will be fine clean.
exactly,i stopped doing gear 2 years before i got into my chosen line of work.i look the same except i am now leaner and due to a change in diet a little stronger.

bench
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 16, 2008, 08:43:16 PM
my advice to you is don't listen to anything squad or candildo say.

squad has never trained a day in his life, and dildo is a redheaded stepchild with yellow ass teeth
and wears punk ass clothes.


hahaha..  you can call me a redheaded stepchild and you can make fun of my clothes...BUT NEVER CALL MY TEETH YELLOW BITCH!!


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: benz on April 16, 2008, 09:04:31 PM
your teeth ARE yellow son.
and you seriously look like a 12 year old.
how much do you weigh 130?

he got aids, why are you laughing at him  :'(
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 16, 2008, 09:05:35 PM
he got aids, why are you laughing at him  :'(
thanks benz, this guy is being a real JERK.  :(



 STOP IT CUSHING

your hurting my feelins  :-[

 ;D
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Arnold jr on April 16, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
don't listen to these morons man, you can build size without drugs, drugs are the easy way, like i said you've got very good size and will be fine clean.
Sure you can build size without drugs...I won't argue that. But there comes a point where you can't build any more size, quality size. You can always get bigger naturally but I don't care who you are at some point to get even bigger and bigger, you're going to get fatter and fatter.

As far as "the easy way out" of course I'm going to say bullshit, but you knew I would. Even so, a statement like that is so misguided I don't even know where to begin.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: whitewidow on April 18, 2008, 01:49:32 AM
damn ww, only 2x per week. man up bro, pu##y ;D ;D

bro you know me! bet your ass im a pussy ;)
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: nder98 on April 22, 2008, 11:28:17 AM
Yeah, I am such a sissy....why must others come on here and downgrade someone else when they don't understand. You don't know if my occupation requires me to use my legs daily or not, but that is irrelevant. I forgot that some on this board are just TOUGH GUYS and don't need the help of medication.

Im curious to know the type of stealth, I had the same problem 2 weeks ago but I baked it and it was totally fine.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: StillTippin on April 22, 2008, 12:37:57 PM
Im curious to know the type of stealth, I had the same problem 2 weeks ago but I baked it and it was totally fine.

Do you just put the vials on a tray in the oven?  What temp and how long?
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: nder98 on April 24, 2008, 07:39:47 AM
Do you just put the vials on a tray in the oven?  What temp and how long?

Yup! 250 degrees for 45 min with pins in each vial to breath. Then no more pain and no more low grade fevers..
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: candidizzle on April 24, 2008, 09:02:17 AM
what would baking do?
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: StillTippin on April 24, 2008, 11:05:14 AM
Yup! 250 degrees for 45 min with pins in each vial to breath. Then no more pain and no more low grade fevers..

Interesting.
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: Slintowin4424 on April 29, 2008, 02:53:43 PM
Hey guys,

I bought a lot of the Stealth Deca and Test E and after one shot I am done with this. The pain is unbearable and it has nothing to do with me not manning up. I went to the doctor today and it appears I have a hematoma and he put me on some antibiotics and vicadin for the quad pain. I have been unable to walk for the 5th day straight and it is horrific. I am a pretty tough guy, but I didn't think I needed to cut this stuff, but that is what I get for assuming.

When I get home tonight my syringes, gear, and all my tools are being tossed.
The good Lord is giving me a sign and I better take heed.


Although I dont take any shit anymore when I did use it it was the smoothest ever
Title: Re: Lesson Learned
Post by: theworm on May 18, 2008, 07:26:29 PM
baking gets rid of the alcohol which is the cause of the pain....    but also destroys the steroid!  (peptide hormone!)