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Title: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2008, 05:19:23 PM
Not sure who came up with this list, but it sure brings back memories.  Marinovich.  Akili Smith.  Mandarich.   

1. Ryan Leaf, Chargers (1998)
2. Lawrence Phillips, Rams (1996)
3. Art Schlichter, Colts (1982)
4. Heath Shuler, Redskins (1994)
5. Charles Rogers, Lions (2003)
6. Keith McCants, Buccaneers (1990)
7. Johnny "Lam" Jones, Jets (1980)
8. Mike Junkin, Browns (1987)
9. Bo Matthews, Chargers (1974)
10. Jerry Tagge, Packers (1972)
11. Jim Drukenmiller, 49ers (1997)
12. Andre Ware, Lions (1990)
13. Reggie Rogers, Lions (1987)
14. Joe Profit, Falcons (1971)
15. Huey Richardson, Steelers (1991)
16. Peter Warrick, Bengals (2000)
17. David Klingler, Bengals (1992)
18. Derek Brown, Giants (1992)
19. Tim Couch, Browns (1999)
20. Curtis Enis, Bears (1998)
21. Steve Niehaus, Seahawks (1976)
22. Blair Thomas, Jets (1990)
23. Kelly Stouffer, Cardinals (1987)
24. Tony Sacca, Cardinals (1992)
25. Tim Worley, Steelers (1989)
26. Jack Thompson, Bengals (1979)
27. Walt Patulski, Bills (1972)
28. Tony Mandarich, Packers (1989)
29. Todd Blackledge, Chiefs (1983)
30. Aaron Gibson, Lions (1999)
31. Todd Marinovich, Raiders (1991)
32. Andre Johnson, Redskins (1996)
33. Leeland McElroy, Cardinals (1996)
34. Craig Powell, Browns (1995)
35. Mike Elkins, Chiefs (1999)
36. Russell Erxleben, Saints (1979)
37. Patrick Bates, Raiders (1993)
38. Dan McGwire, Seahawks (1991)
39. Trezelle Jenkins, Chiefs (1995)
40. Cade McNown, Bears (1999)
41. Reggie Rembert, Jets (1990)
42. Akili Smith, Bengals (1999)
43. Mike Mamula, Eagles (1995)
44. Jonathan Sullivan, Saints (2003)
45. John Clay, Raiders (1987)
46. Alex Van Dyke, Jets (1996)
47. Maurice Clarett, Broncos (2005)
48. David LaFleur, Cowboys (1997)
49. Jon Harris, Eagles (1997)
50. Michael Westbrook, Redskins (1995)
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Earl1972 on April 20, 2008, 12:54:45 PM
why is tim couch 19th?

when you are taken number 1 overall and are not capable of being 3rd string 5 years later you should be in the top 5

reggie bush should be added to this list if he doesn't step up his game, when people say you will be "the michael jordan of football" and you're average at best that makes you a pretty big bust

E
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Geo on April 20, 2008, 04:09:48 PM
every once in a while you still see someone with a sense of humor wearing a leaf jersey here in San Diego
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 21, 2008, 06:24:10 AM
Madden had Manderich on his all Madden team before he was drafted ;D
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 21, 2008, 07:32:38 AM
Maurice Clarett... ah, what could have been...

Dude had a terrific chance and he totally, completely blew it...
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 21, 2008, 08:34:21 AM
Maurice Clarett... ah, what could have been...

Dude had a terrific chance and he totally, completely blew it...




Stupid is a powerfull thing :-\
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dr Loomis on April 21, 2008, 03:24:05 PM
Nice list, I agree a little high on Couch. He played very well at times on a poor team.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: tonymctones on April 21, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
LOL come on DAVID FVCKING CARR ought to be in the top 50 for sure man number one in the draft and hasnt done jack yet, relegated to 2nd or 3rd string he is the biggest waste of a number one draft pick I know of
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: americanbulldog on April 22, 2008, 01:36:57 AM
Thank God for Lawrence Phillips, he was the reason we got the Bus.   ;D
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: mass 04 on April 22, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
hhah poor Leaf, he is such a joke.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 22, 2008, 08:33:10 AM
hhah poor Leaf, he is such a joke.



Can you imagine that some teams were thinking he would be better than Manning :o
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Weez on April 22, 2008, 08:39:50 AM
Where's Bosworth? I loved it when Bo literally steamrolled over his ass, and in to the endzone................. ..classic 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 22, 2008, 08:43:01 AM
George Rogers,# 1 pick by the Saints.
the # 2 pick was Lawrence Taylor.the rest is history 8)
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 22, 2008, 09:17:11 AM
George Rogers was pretty good, though. Not exactly a bust. Still holds the Redskins single game rushing record of 221 yards.

But compared to LT..I get what you mean.

Suprised Desmond Howard wasn't on that list. Sure, he was a hell of return guy later in his career but he was definitely a bust as a wide receiver out of Michigan. He was selected at #4 in '92 by the Skins.

That's a high draft position for a WR who produced exactly DICK as a starting WR.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 22, 2008, 09:28:54 AM
George Rogers was pretty good, though. Not exactly a bust. Still holds the Redskins single game rushing record of 221 yards.

But compared to LT..I get what you mean.

Suprised Desmond Howard wasn't on that list. Sure, he was a hell of return guy later in his career but he was definitely a bust as a wide receiver out of Michigan. He was selected at #4 in '92 by the Skins.

That's a high draft position for a WR who produced exactly DICK as a starting WR.






Giants took Ike Hilliard,wr,Florida at like #7.
not one of their better picks :-\
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 22, 2008, 09:37:14 AM
Hilliard is still playing in the league, though.

Going on 11 seasons now so he's not a complete bust.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 22, 2008, 10:42:32 AM
Hilliard is still playing in the league, though.

Going on 11 seasons now so he's not a complete bust.



True,not a complete bust.but stiil not a single pro-bowl in all that time.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: MidniteRambo on April 22, 2008, 11:12:31 AM
When you consider how his career ended and the devestation he gave the franchise, I think Mike Vick deserves honorable mention.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2008, 11:25:12 AM
I'd add Steve Emtman, Brian Bosworth, Peter Warrick, and Aundray Bruce.  Wouldn't really include Desmond Howard.  He wasn't as good as advertised, but winning a Super Bowl MVP keeps you out of the bust category IMO. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: americanbulldog on April 22, 2008, 11:33:42 AM
I'd add Steve Emtman, Brian Bosworth, Peter Warrick, and Aundray Bruce.  Wouldn't really include Desmond Howard.  He wasn't as good as advertised, but winning a Super Bowl MVP keeps you out of the bust category IMO. 

Aundray Bruce, another classic. 

How about a kicker in the first round, Sebastian Janikowski.  Taken ahead of Shawn Alexander.  I think in time, Robert Gallery will be considered another epic bust. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: mass 04 on April 22, 2008, 11:36:23 AM
David Terrell.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: CalvinH on April 22, 2008, 12:04:49 PM
Giants have a nice list of first rounders that didn't pan out :-\
Dereck Brown
William Joseph
Ron Dayne
Cedric Jones
Tyrone Wheatly
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 22, 2008, 12:04:53 PM
Is "touchdown" Tommy Vardell on the top 50 list?


I think the guy had 6 touchdowns over an 8 year career.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: MidniteRambo on April 22, 2008, 12:32:11 PM
How about Gino Torretta?

Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Aundray Bruce, another classic. 

How about a kicker in the first round, Sebastian Janikowski.  Taken ahead of Shawn Alexander.  I think in time, Robert Gallery will be considered another epic bust. 

 :o  Forgot about that. 

Agree about Gallery. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
Is "touchdown" Tommy Vardell on the top 50 list?


I think the guy had 6 touchdowns over an 8 year career.

Definitely a bust. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2008, 01:35:19 PM
How about Gino Torretta?



Nah.  He was a seventh round pick. 

He should give his Heisman back.   >:(  Faulk should have won it. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: americanbulldog on April 22, 2008, 03:10:44 PM
How about Mark Malone.  28th pick of the 1980 draft.  Taken ahead of Dwight Stephenson, Ray Donaldson, Matt Millen, Keena Turner, Joe Cribbs. 

Also taken that year with the 26th pick, Charles White.  What a bust. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 22, 2008, 03:17:21 PM
Definitely a bust. 

True, but received strong recommendations to make the pro bowl in 1994 as a fullback. That was the year that Barry Sanders rushed for over 2,000 yards. The only year that Sanders has ever run behind a fullback(Vardell) in the pros.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Decker on April 23, 2008, 10:17:15 AM
To me, Mandarich is the biggest bust of all time.

Tony "Juggs" Mandarich was considered the finest NFL lineman ever without playing a down.  When he did play, he was terrible.

To think GB passed on Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders and Derrick Thomas.

Oh the horror...the horror...
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2008, 10:55:22 AM
True, but received strong recommendations to make the pro bowl in 1994 as a fullback. That was the year that Barry Sanders rushed for over 2,000 yards. The only year that Sanders has ever run behind a fullback(Vardell) in the pros.

Barry getting stuck in Detroit was just a crime (with no FB, TE, and a bad offense).  He would have rushed for 20,000 yards if he played in Dallas instead of Detroit. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2008, 10:56:47 AM
To me, Mandarich is the biggest bust of all time.

Tony "Juggs" Mandarich was considered the finest NFL lineman ever without playing a down.  When he did play, he was terrible.

To think GB passed on Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders and Derrick Thomas.

Oh the horror...the horror...

I still have the cover of SI with him on the cover as a senior.  He was 6'6", 315, and ran a 4.6.  A total chemical creation.  Could not play without the sauce. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 23, 2008, 11:30:08 AM
Barry getting stuck in Detroit was just a crime (with no FB, TE, and a bad offense).  He would have rushed for 20,000 yards if he played in Dallas instead of Detroit. 

You mean you wern't a fan of the Mouse Davis Run and Shoot offense? Four wideouts, no FB on ever down where little wide receivers were forced to block for Barry Sanders on running plays? LOL! It was a good thing Barry could produce that yardage on his own most of the time.

Poor Barry. I bet he thought Detroit would be a playoff team for years when they made it to the NFC championship game during the '91 season. They lost to the Skins 41-10, oh by way. Guy should've been traded out of there after 5 seasons in Detroit. In today's NFL free agency, he could've caught on with another team.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 23, 2008, 11:30:48 AM
I still have the cover of SI with him on the cover as a senior.  He was 6'6", 315, and ran a 4.6.  A total chemical creation.  Could not play without the sauce. 

That was such a retarded article. The amount of food he claimed he ate was all a bunch of bullshit. I remember when John Madden put him on the All-MAdden team back in 1988 when he was still a college senior at Michigan State. He many more All-Madden teams did John put Tony on when he made the pros? hmmmmm.

Mandarach was pathetic. Just an overhyped needle using douchebag who was exposed as a fraud in the pros.
 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2008, 11:44:22 AM
You mean you wern't a fan of the Mouse Davis Run and Shoot offense? Four wideouts, no FB on ever down where little wide receivers were forced to block for Barry Sanders on running plays? LOL! It was a good thing Barry could produce that yardage on his own most of the time.

Poor Barry. I bet he thought Detroit would be a playoff team for years when they made it to the NFC championship game during the '91 season. They lost to the Skins 41-10, oh by way. Guy should've been traded out of there after 5 seasons in Detroit. In today's NFL free agency, he could've caught on with another team.

What he did with that cast in that offense is nothing short of amazing.  Best RB I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2008, 11:46:53 AM
That was such a retarded article. The amount of food he claimed he ate was all a bunch of bullshit. I remember when John Madden put him on the All-MAdden team back in 1988 when he was still a college senior at Michigan State. He many more All-Madden teams did John put Tony on when he made the pros? hmmmmm.

Mandarach was pathetic. Just an overhyped needle using douchebag who was exposed as a fraud in the pros.
 

He was a monster at Michigan State.  I remember him blocking a guy by putting his hand underneath the guy's face mask and driving him into the ground.

He turned out to be the flip side of Bosworth, without the marketing savvy. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: OzmO on April 23, 2008, 01:23:48 PM
This is the year that will tell whether or not Alex Smith belongs on that list.

Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Earl1972 on April 23, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
This is the year that will tell whether or not Alex Smith belongs on that list.



my crystal ball says he will be on the list :)

E
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: americanbulldog on April 23, 2008, 03:00:40 PM
my crystal ball says he will be on the list :)

E

Most definitely. 
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: MidniteRambo on April 23, 2008, 03:19:41 PM
Ultimately Vince Young will be regarded as a bust.
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: mass 04 on April 23, 2008, 03:30:06 PM
Browns had some winners lately, Couch, Gerard Warren, Courtney Brown, William Green.  :-X
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: Earl1972 on April 23, 2008, 08:46:37 PM
Ultimately Vince Young will be regarded as a bust.

i don't think so he was rookie of the year, made the pro bowl and playoffs

E
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: MidniteRambo on April 24, 2008, 04:16:18 PM
i don't think so he was rookie of the year, made the pro bowl and playoffs

E

But it is case where pereception overcame reality.  Eventually people will see the Vince Young mirage (hence my use of the word "Ultimately").  One need only look at his stats to see it coming.  He has a career 69.0 QB rating and nine more interceptions than TDs (last year 9 TD and 17 ints).  Joey Harrington last year had a QB rating which was 6 points higher than Young and Harrington is already considered a "bust."

Here are some of the other noted QBs, among numerous others, with a higher QB rating last year than the "great" Vince Young:


Sage Rosenfels (84.8)
John Kitna (80.9)
Damon Huard (76.8)
Kyle Bowler (75.2)
Title: Re: Top 50 NFL Draft Busts
Post by: jerseyhurricane on May 01, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
Don't forget about Freddie Mitchell. 25th pick in the 1st rd 2001