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BODYBUILDING is A SPORT
well at least on the program guide on TiVo
however, when you scan Sports/bodybuilding
the only choices are STRONGMAN contests
when was the last time a "bodybuilder" competed as a STRONGMAN
now that we have 800 channels to choose from - wouldn't ya think
bb would have more of a presence
whatever happened to AMERICAN SPORTS NETWORK ?
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tv is yesterday
internet is today
it wasnt long ago we all sat together in our underwear, oiled up, drinking a proteinshake and watched arnold classic online
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bodybuilding IS a sport
All true, except for the part about bodybuilding being a sport.
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Frank Zane himself considers it more of an art form.
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I think it was Franco Columbu.....and he blew his knee out carrying a refridgerator!!
BTW, bodybuilding is NOT a sport....Earl:(
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All true, except for the part about bodybuilding being a sport.
it's so much more
i think it's insulting to say that it's just a sport
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actually they are saying the internet will be history,soon
something down the Pike called THE GRID
think its happening in England
less than 60 second movie downloads
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Why? Did AlGore invent something better?
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Why? Did AlGore invent something better?
" HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT WAS SO FUNNY "
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yes, google The Gride Wired
start investing now !!
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correction "The Grid Wired"
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tv is yesterday
internet is today
it wasnt long ago we all sat together in our underwear, oiled up, drinking a proteinshake and watched arnold classic online
who is "we" Bluto ?
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That's the reason Pros don't have to be Drug tested BB is not a sport so why the Fuk do Drug tests just ask Chick or the IFBB.BB is not a sport = No Drug testing.
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who is "we" Bluto ?
you and me
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bodybuilding is my second favorite sport right after football
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bodybuilding is my second favorite sport right after football
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Earl... Joe Loco is right - bodybuilding is not a sport.
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All true, except for the part about bodybuilding being a sport.
Classic work Matt
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Sport, art, hobby, addiction, job, lifestyle, and a colt. ;D
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Low and behold all you haters on a bodybuilding website.....
sport Audio Help /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bodybuilding, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
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BODYBUILDING is A SPORT
I stopped reading after this.
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YES YOU STUPID MOTHER FU.CKER!
BODYBUILDING is A SPORT
well at least on the program guide on TiVo
however, when you scan Sports/bodybuilding
the only choices are STRONGMAN contests
when was the last time a "bodybuilder" competed as a STRONGMAN
now that we have 800 channels to choose from - wouldn't ya think
bb would have more of a presence
whatever happened to AMERICAN SPORTS NETWORK ?
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maybe if that added a weight lifting round ;D
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I think it was Franco Columbu.....and he blew his knee out carrying a refridgerator!!
BTW, bodybuilding is NOT a sport....Earl:(
There Curtis Leffler in the 90's. Ferrigno in the 70's
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Earl... Joe Loco is right - bodybuilding is not a sport.
i've stated my argument several times
you and joe haven't made an argument, all you've said is "bodybuilding is not a sport" ::)
the dictionary definition of the word "sport" agrees with me so it really doesn't matter what lame argument you or him come up with ;)
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Low and behold all you haters on a bodybuilding website.....
sport Audio Help /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bodybuilding, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
those who hate facts = owned 8)
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Several years ago, the IOC ranked bodybuilding as the 7th ranked 'sport' in the world in terms of participation, with soccer being #1.
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Several years ago, the IOC ranked bodybuilding as the 7th ranked 'sport' in the world in terms of participation, with soccer being #1.
8) 8) 8)
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Joe's credo is: lame argument, low intellect.
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...and then meltdown.
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Since poker and now even Scrabble are games featured on ESPN, are these considered to be sports?
If so, then I'd have to say bb is, too.
Although I am unsure of it being so (bb, that is...)
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Since poker and now even Scrabble are games featured on ESPN, are these considered to be sports?
If so, then I'd have to say bb is, too.
Although I am unsure of it being so (bb, that is...)
no they are not sports, espn will show whatever gets ratings
the nfl is the most popular sport in the US, that is why "NFL Live" is shown even in the offseason
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It's sad a "sport" like bb gets less interest than a board game tournament.
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It's sad a "sport" like bb gets less interest than a board game tournament.
far more people play board games
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Why? Did AlGore invent something better?
Nope.....Vince Basile invented it!
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Low and behold all you haters on a bodybuilding website.....
sport Audio Help /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bodybuilding, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
Hey genius.....half the shit in there isn't a real sport.
Golf? Bowling? Hunting? Fishing? Racing? HA!
Maybe it's just me, but here I thought a sport was something that required athletic ability. Let me guess, Poker is now a sport too? ::)
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Several years ago, the IOC ranked bodybuilding as the 7th ranked 'sport' in the world in terms of participation, with soccer being #1.
I call bullshit on that. Why, because they probably thought of "weightlifting" as bbing. Which are different. There are lots of weightlifters at my gym, but few bbers.
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Hey genius.....half the shit in there isn't a real sport.
Golf? Bowling? Hunting? Fishing? Racing? HA!
Maybe it's just me, but here I thought a sport was something that required athletic ability. Let me guess, Poker is now a sport too? ::)
any activity that involves COMPETITIVE PHYSICAL EXERTION is a sport
poker is not a sport
i don't see how hunting is a sport either
the rest are sports
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any activity that involves COMPETITIVE PHYSICAL EXERTION is a sport
poker is not a sport
i don't see how hunting is a sport either
the rest are sports
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Does this guy look like he can do anything physically exerting exept eat? He looks like he'd get winded taking a shit (which I"m sure is frequently)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210882.0
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Does this guy look like he can do anything physically exerting exept eat? He looks like he'd get winded taking a shit (which I"m sure is frequently)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210882.0
are you going to make me post another pic of john daly ::)
besides trey is offseason
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any activity that involves COMPETITIVE PHYSICAL EXERTION is a sport
poker is not a sport
i don't see how hunting is a sport either
the rest are sports
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hunting requires real skills
unless u're saying oiling up and posing in a man thong is a skill, in which case maybe..
It shouldn't matter whether its a sport or not, how abt just call it 'activity'. Categorising it is unnecessary, and calling it a sport is only justified cuz it's easy to call it that.
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any activity that involves COMPETITIVE PHYSICAL EXERTION is a sport
poker is not a sport
i don't see how hunting is a sport either
the rest are sports
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So to YOU racing is a sport?
Even though the car is doing the fucking work? I mean, yes, the driver drives, but it's just like Horse racing, where teh fucking horse does the work. The Jockey just slap the shit out of the horse to make it speed up (or in racing stepping on the gas).
Sorry, but just being a "competition" does not a sport make.
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I call bullshit on that. Why, because they probably thought of "weightlifting" as bbing. Which are different. There are lots of weightlifters at my gym, but few bbers.
I am not attempting to BS anyone. The list was published in USA Today.
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I am not attempting to BS anyone. The list was published in USA Today.
No, you misunderstood me. it's not YOU I call it on.....USA Today thinks of weightlifting (hell, people with a gym membership) as part of bbing, which is not the case to anyone with a clue.
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So to YOU racing is a sport?
Even though the car is doing the fucking work? I mean, yes, the driver drives, but it's just like Horse racing, where teh fucking horse does the work. The Jockey just slap the shit out of the horse to make it speed up (or in racing stepping on the gas).
Sorry, but just being a "competition" does not a sport make.
Well, at 500 laps, drivers have been known to lose up to 20 pounds during one race. It necessitates extreme endurance
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No, you misunderstood me. it's not YOU I call it on.....USA Today thinks of weightlifting (hell, people with a gym membership) as part of bbing, which is not the case to anyone with a clue.
No, no, its cool.
But, I recall they listed bb and wlk separately. They may have had their stuff messed up...who knows
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hunting requires real skills
unless u're saying oiling up and posing in a man thong is a skill, in which case maybe..
It shouldn't matter whether its a sport or not, how abt just call it 'activity'. Categorising it is unnecessary, and calling it a sport is only justified cuz it's easy to call it that.
pointing a gun and pulling a trigger takes skill?
there are people in wheel chairs that hunt ::)
posing is a skill, notice how some guys pose better than others?
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hunting requires real skills
unless u're saying oiling up and posing in a man thong is a skill, in which case maybe..
It shouldn't matter whether its a sport or not, how abt just call it 'activity'. Categorising it is unnecessary, and calling it a sport is only justified cuz it's easy to call it that.
Hunting DOES require skill. Most things do. But unless your kind of hunting is the kind where you chase your prey with a spear, knife, or bow and arrow, it does not require athleticism.
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So to YOU racing is a sport?
Even though the car is doing the fucking work? I mean, yes, the driver drives, but it's just like Horse racing, where teh fucking horse does the work. The Jockey just slap the shit out of the horse to make it speed up (or in racing stepping on the gas).
Sorry, but just being a "competition" does not a sport make.
i don't think CAR racing is a sport
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pointing a gun and pulling a trigger takes skill?
there are people in wheel chairs that hunt ::)
posing is a skill, notice how some guys pose better than others?
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Absolutely.
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Hunting DOES require skill. Most things do. But unless your kind of hunting is the kind where you chase your prey with a spear, knife, or bow and arrow, it does not require athleticism.
In hunting the skill is what makes or breaks you, there is no such thing in bodybuilding... yea it helps to pose gracefully but your placings don't depend on it entirely. Therefore, IMO it is ridiculous toc all bodybuilding a sport.
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are you going to make me post another pic of john daly ::)
besides trey is offseason
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Daly makes Brewer look like Frank Zane!
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In hunting the skill is what makes or breaks you, there is no such thing in bodybuilding... yea it helps to pose gracefully but your placings don't depend on it entirely. Therefore, IMO it is ridiculous toc all bodybuilding a sport.
sitting in a tree stand armed with a high powered rifle takes skill?
I hunted as a kid and i can tell you that's all i did, I hunted from 12 -16 and got a buck every year
ask jay cutler about how posing affected his placing at the 2001 olympia
ask paul dillet how it affected his placings
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In hunting the skill is what makes or breaks you, there is no such thing in bodybuilding... yea it helps to pose gracefully but your placings don't depend on it entirely. Therefore, IMO it is ridiculous toc all bodybuilding a sport.
Don't forget, that like WWE or you're favorite show or movie (or figure skating for that matter), the results are predetermined. One of the flaws of comp. bbing is it's crooked judging. Unlike real/legitimate sports, there is now way to pick up points/advantage.
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Hunting DOES require skill. Most things do. But unless your kind of hunting is the kind where you chase your prey with a spear, knife, or bow and arrow, it does not require athleticism.
I like the kind of hunting where the animals get guns, too.... ;)
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BBing IS a sport, but also can be considered an art form, hobby, pagaent, etc.
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Daly makes Brewer look like Frank Zane!
daly has zero muscle ::)
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Don't forget, that like WWE or you're favorite show or movie (or figure skating for that matter), the results are predetermined. One of the flaws of comp. bbing is it's crooked judging. Unlike real/legitimate sports, there is now way to pick up points/advantage.
In that case, boxing is akin to bb...dependent on the opinion of judges...
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I like the kind of hunting where the animals get guns, too.... ;)
Thank you! That always pisses off these "bad ass" hunters with their fucking rifles......
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sitting in a tree stand armed with a high powered rifle takes skill?
I hunted as a kid and i can tell you that's all i did, I hunted from 12 -16 and got a buck every year
ask jay cutler about how posing affected his placing at the 2001 olympia
ask paul dillet how it affected his placings
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what is the central skillt o bodybuilding?
In bow hunting, u have to have good aim, timing, etc.
In bodybuilding the central part takes place not on stage but in the preparations leading upto it. You don't lift things on stage. You don't eat right on stage. You jsut stand up there for the judges to judge your physique, and u manage to present your physique in a way that is acceptable.
I'm not taking anything away from bodybuilding, just that categorising it as a sport is unnecessary.
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In that case, boxing is akin to bb...dependent on the opinion of judges...
Not quite. In boxing you have knock outs, there is NO such thing in bbing. You can also keep track of punches, knockdowns, et cetera. In bbing, the BEST man, does not always win. Ask Rusty Jeffers about that. Ask Dennis Wolf.....
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Don't forget, that like WWE or you're favorite show or movie (or figure skating for that matter), the results are predetermined. One of the flaws of comp. bbing is it's crooked judging. Unlike real/legitimate sports, there is now way to pick up points/advantage.
you pick up points/advantage by posing better than the other guy
at the 2001 olympia jay barely beat ronnie in the physique rounds but ronnie "picked up points" by putting on a far superior posing routine and gained enough to pull out the win
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The funny irony about "Buffet" Trey Brewer, is that he was once an athlete (played Football), and has now just become an obese drug abuser, that likely couldn't run up 3 flights of stairs.
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Not quite. In boxing you have knock outs, there is NO such thing in bbing. You can also keep track of punches, knockdowns, et cetera. In bbing, the BEST man, does not always win. Ask Rusty Jeffers about that. Ask Dennis Wolf.....
Yes, thought of that...but not ALWAYS a knockout. And keeping track is inexact science at best, and subject to conjecture.
PS: My OPINION is that Bob C deserved the pro masters win...I sat ring side at that one. And Wolf was robbed when they gave the NY pro to Branch...again, my opinion
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you pick up points/advantage by posing better than the other guy
at the 2001 olympia jay barely beat ronnie in the physique rounds but ronnie "picked up points" by putting on a far superior posing routine and gained enough to pull out the win
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Please Earl....since when do the best "posers" place higher? I'm not sure he most recent Mr. O's would even be considered more than decent posers.
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what is the central skillt o bodybuilding?
In bow hunting, u have to have good aim, timing, etc.
In bodybuilding the central part takes place not on stage but in the preparations leading upto it. You don't lift things on stage. You don't eat right on stage. You jsut stand up there for the judges to judge your physique, and u manage to present your physique in a way that is acceptable.
I'm not taking anything away from bodybuilding, just that categorising it as a sport is unnecessary.
flexing all of your muscles simultaneously as hard as you can for an extended period of time without losing your balance and holding a straight face is not something that can be done without practice
like i told you before go in to your bathroom hit a most muscular as hard as you can and hold it for 10 seconds, tell me that isn't harder on your body than pointing a gun and shooting
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Very, very rarely has posing figured in to determine winners. ONLY if an entrant failed to do mandatories, or blatantly posed like a chimp....
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Please Earl....since when do the best "posers" place higher? I'm not sure he most recent Mr. O's would even be considered more than decent posers.
the system is not perfect but it has been proven numerous times that posing determined the final outcome
posing counted far more in the past, i'm not denying that bodybuilding is fucked up today
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flexing all of your muscles simultaneously as hard as you can for an extended period of time without losing your balance and holding a straight face is not something that can be done without practice
like i told you before go in to your bathroom hit a most muscular as hard as you can and hold it for 10 seconds, tell me that isn't harder on your body than pointing a gun and shooting
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Put it this way...ask any bb ( I know this from experience)...the day after a show, you will feel as though you have gone through the most intense and excrutiating workout ever. That is the taxation on your musculoskeletal system.
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Very, very rarely has posing figured in to determine winners. ONLY if an entrant failed to do mandatories, or blatantly posed like a chimp....
again ask jay or dillet
according to the judges ronnie easily won the 2002 olympia until Mr. Levrone put on a routine that seems to be talked about more than any other routine over the past 10 years
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flexing all of your muscles simultaneously as hard as you can for an extended period of time without losing your balance and holding a straight face is not something that can be done without practice
like i told you before go in to your bathroom hit a most muscular as hard as you can and hold it for 10 seconds, tell me that isn't harder on your body than pointing a gun and shooting
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u gotta be kidding me man, funniest thing I have heard in a while ;D
Earl, bodybuilding is not an easy undertaking but the physicality of bodybuilding is only in appearance... as far as posing goes it is pretty much an even playing field, as you don't need to be the best poser in the world to be good bodybuilder.. just take Ronnie Coleman as an example, 8 time mister olympia.
Being a good bodybuilder is respectable, but he's far from an athlete bud ;D
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u gotta be kidding me man, funniest thing I have heard in a while ;D
Earl, bodybuilding is not an easy undertaking but the physicality of bodybuilding is only in appearance... as far as posing goes it is pretty much an even playing field, as you don't need to be the best poser in the world to be good bodybuilder.. just take Ronnie Coleman as an example, 8 time mister olympia.
Being a good bodybuilder is respectable, but he's far from an athlete bud ;D
by definiton they are athletes
and ronnie is a good poser, not the best but pretty good
did you hit that 10 second most muscular yet?
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I remember the last time this sort of argument came up, some guy tried to tell me that Tiger could be an NFL walk-on CB. ;D ::)
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at the 2001 olympia jay barely beat ronnie in the physique rounds but ronnie "picked up points" by putting on a far superior posing routine and gained enough to pull out the win
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The posing round is bullshit. Isn't it funny how the best posers somehow still place chronologically lower in score in the Posing Round than every competitor infront of him? Come on now...
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by definiton they are athletes
and ronnie is a good poser, not the best but pretty good
did you hit that 10 second most muscular yet?
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no bodybuilder is tested on how awesomely he can hold a pose for 10 sec ;D
you're using some vague definition, no one else agrees with it. I won't try to convince u anymore so u can think what u want... though the thought of bodybuilders being athletes is hilarious ;D
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The posing round is bullshit. Isn't it funny how the best posers somehow still place chronologically lower in score in the Posing Round than every competitor infront of him? Come on now...
are you talking about the guys that get on stage and dance?
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again ask jay or dillet
according to the judges ronnie easily won the 2002 olympia until Mr. Levrone put on a routine that seems to be talked about more than any other routine over the past 10 years
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I have talked at length with Katz and Gaspari, two of the only pro IFBB guys who have judged the Olympia...and they have stated that posing does nothing to enhance placings.
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no bodybuilder is tested on how awesomely he can hold a pose for 10 sec ;D
you're using some vague definition, no one else agrees with it. I won't try to convince u anymore so u can think what u want... though the thought of bodybuilders being athletes is hilarious ;D
wrong, they are
the IOC agrees with me and the dictionary agrees with me and both are greater than you :-*
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are you talking about the guys that get on stage and dance?
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that stupid dancing bullshit I can't stand...could you imagine Arnold doing jive-ass moves like these comedians today?
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I have talked at length with Katz and Gaspari, two of the only pro IFBB guys who have judged the Olympia...and they have stated that posing does nothing to enhance placings.
the scorecards say otherwise
oh and ask jay and paul ;)
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are you talking about the guys that get on stage and dance?
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Not at all, and what I said doesn't apply to every scoresheet, as some of the best posers are indeed credited for their work, but not as much as some of the worst posers who just happen to have the best physiques. Posing and physiques aren't the same.
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Not at all, and what I said doesn't apply to every scoresheet, as some of the best posers are indeed credited for their work, but not as much as some of the worst posers who just happen to have the best physiques. Posing and physiques aren't the same.
who has a great physique but is a terrible poser?
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Earl...entrants are more likely to speak from the position of having sour grapes.
I have judged at all levels except IFBB for close to 20 years...we have never, ever considered posing in scoring.
I consider what IFBB judges tell me...and they ain't scorin' posing either, bro.
Not to say that they shouldn't...they probably should.
But they don't.
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who has a great physique but is a terrible poser?
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Any bb who barely hits a pose and holds it because they are too busy doing their chippendale's dancing....nothing ruins a good physique more than failing to display it
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Earl...entrants are more likely to speak from the position of having sour grapes.
I have judged at all levels except IFBB for close to 20 years...we have never, ever considered posing in scoring.
I consider what IFBB judges tell me...and they ain't scorin' posing either, bro.
Not to say that they shouldn't...they probably should.
But they don't.
like i said the scorecards from 2001 show that the posing rounds counted, it was all over flex magazine that entire year so it wasn't sour grapes from jay
your argument doesn't mean bodybuilding is not a sport, it means bodybuilding is seriously corrupted
why have the posing rounds if they don't count?
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Any bb who barely hits a pose and holds it because they are too busy doing their chippendale's dancing....nothing ruins a good physique more than failing to display it
so you are agreeing with me, what ???
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like i said the scorecards from 2001 show that the posing rounds counted, it was all over flex magazine that entire year so it wasn't sour grapes from jay
your argument doesn't mean bodybuilding is not a sport, it means bodybuilding is seriously corrupted
why have the posing rounds if they don't count?
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It's been SEVEN years, dude. Let it go. :-\
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who has a great physique but is a terrible poser?
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Paul Dillett in the mid 90's had a great physique, but he was never a good poser. In 2001: Orville Burke.
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any activity that involves COMPETITIVE PHYSICAL EXERTION is a sport
poker is not a sport
i don't see how hunting is a sport either
the rest are sports
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According to you then Ballroom Dancing is a sport. ;D And Curling is a sport, but I doubt physical exertion applies here.
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Yes! Bodybuilding is a sport, and if you take it seriously it can be a very demanding one...