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Muslim call to adopt Mecca time
By Magdi Abdelhadi
BBC Arab affairs analyst
Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.
Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.
The call was issued at a conference held in the Gulf state of Qatar under the title: Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice.
One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.
He said the English had imposed GMT on the rest of the world by force when Britain was a big colonial power, and it was about time that changed.
Mecca watch
A prominent cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawy, said modern science had at last provided evidence that Mecca was the true centre of the Earth; proof, he said, of the greatness of the Muslim "qibla" - the Arabic word for the direction Muslims turn to when they pray.
The meeting also reviewed what has been described as a Mecca watch, the brainchild of a French Muslim.
The watch is said to rotate anti-clockwise and is supposed to help Muslims determine the direction of Mecca from any point on Earth.
The meeting in Qatar is part of a popular trend in some Muslim societies of seeking to find Koranic precedents for modern science.
It is called "Ijaz al-Koran", which roughly translates as the "miraculous nature of the holy text".
The underlying belief is that scientific truths were also revealed in the Muslim holy book, and it is the work of scholars to unearth and publicise the textual evidence.
But the movement is not without its critics, who say that the notion that modern science was revealed in the Koran confuses spiritual truth, which is constant, and empirical truth, which depends on the state of science at any given point in time.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/7359258.stm
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A prominent cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawy, said modern science had at last provided evidence that Mecca was the true centre of the Earth; proof, he said, of the greatness of the Muslim "qibla" - the Arabic word for the direction Muslims turn to when they pray
o good gawd..some shit for brains no name uneducated idiot makes a claim in the name of islam and bbc and every news organization carries the story as a symbolic (assumed)statue of belief for every muslim :-\
on the flip side some shit for brain christian thinks he's doing gods work and runs a polygamist society and rapes little girls and boys and the media immediately disassociates it from christianity and calls it a cult.. :-\
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Nobody mentioned that...we're talking muslims thinking mecca is the center of the world. ::)
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o good gawd..some shit for brains no name uneducated idiot makes a claim in the name of islam and bbc and every news organization carries the story as a symbolic (assumed)statue of belief for every muslim :-\
on the flip side some shit for brain christian thinks he's doing gods work and runs a polygamist society and rapes little girls and boys and the media immediately disassociates it from christianity and calls it a cult.. :-\
I'm curious...
What makes you educated to judge his level of knowledge about Islam?
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o good gawd..some shit for brains no name uneducated idiot makes a claim in the name of islam and bbc and every news organization carries the story as a symbolic (assumed)statue of belief for every muslim :-\
on the flip side some shit for brain christian thinks he's doing gods work and runs a polygamist society and rapes little girls and boys and the media immediately disassociates it from christianity and calls it a cult.. :-\
I'm curious...
What makes you educated to judge his level of knowledge about Islam?
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I'm curious...
What makes you educated to judge his level of knowledge about Islam?
cause my parents r muslims...
and their belief system is nothing like his..
simple..
and Headhunter ya actually think there r muslim doctors and scientists out there that think mecca is the center of the world? :-\
its amazing that you actually believe educated 1st world muslims would think that :-\
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No..just commenting on the article.
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cause my parents r muslims...
and their belief system is nothing like his..
simple..
and Headhunter ya actually think there r muslim doctors and scientists out there that think mecca is the center of the world? :-\
its amazing that you actually believe educated 1st world muslims would think that :-\
I believe two of the muslims that drove that jeep into Heathrow airport last summer were muslim doctors and one of the leaders of Jemaah Islamiya is also a doctor. I would venture to guess that these clowns think Mecca is the center of the world.
Thank you, care to try again, idiot?
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cause my parents r muslims...
and their belief system is nothing like his..
simple..
and Headhunter ya actually think there r muslim doctors and scientists out there that think mecca is the center of the world? :-\
its amazing that you actually believe educated 1st world muslims would think that :-\
I think you need to read the Koran.
Your parents are hypocrites, not true Muslims.
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I believe two of the muslims that drove that jeep into Heathrow airport last summer were muslim doctors and one of the leaders of Jemaah Islamiya is also a doctor. I would venture to guess that these clowns think Mecca is the center of the world.
Thank you, care to try again, idiot?
Then there's that. :D
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I think you need to read the Koran.
Your parents are hypocrites, not true Muslims.
now YOU r an authority in islam?
lol ::)
you should start a campaign where you tell the millions of peacefull muslims across the world that they really r not muslims and they should actually become extremists cause thats really islam.. ::)
now feel free to punch yourself in the face.. ;)
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I believe two of the muslims that drove that jeep into Heathrow airport last summer were muslim doctors and one of the leaders of Jemaah Islamiya is also a doctor. I would venture to guess that these clowns think Mecca is the center of the world.
Thank you, care to try again, idiot?
YOU believe...
yeah..we'll go with YOU believe :-\
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now YOU r an authority in islam?
lol ::)
you should start a campaign where you tell the millions of peacefull muslims across the world that they really r not muslims and they should actually become extremists cause thats really islam.. ::)
now feel free to punch yourself in the face.. ;)
At least I've read the Koran.
I suspect you haven't?
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At least I've read the Koran.
I suspect you haven't?
ooo yeah i have...and i grew up in muslim country..and 99% of the muslims around me were hardworking good people..
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Yeah...we don't see many of those people stepping up and stopping the other folks who are killing, raping and murdering everybody else. Further....having been forced to read some of the Koran and sit through classes, that book is all about killing, invading and spreading the word of that god through force and subjugation.
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that book is all about killing, invading and spreading the word of that god through force and subjugation.
actually its forbidden to force anyon to convert for then they r converting not with a true heart
Yeah...we don't see many of those people stepping up and stopping the other folks who are killing, raping and murdering everybody else. Further....having been forced to read some of the Koran and sit through classes,
i'd like 2 see you try that in the 3rd world and risk the lives of your family... ;)
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Plenty of folks in London and across Europe doing the same thing...u can't polish a turd.
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Plenty of folks in London and across Europe doing the same thing...u can't polish a turd.
how come american muslims dont?
thing is..you have uneducated lower classes in london and europe(that r muslim)..these r the fuckers we dont even allow into our neighborhoods in karachi...
blame the idiot that allowed em into europe..
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YOU believe...
yeah..we'll go with YOU believe :-\
Actually, I know for a FACT that one of the top leaders of Jemaah Islamiyah is a DOCTOR, and his name is Dr. Agus Purwanto.
Jemaah Islamiyah is only the biggest terrorist problem in southeastern Asia right now and I also know with 99.99% certainty that at least one of the Glasgow attackers was a doctor. However, I'm not sure if BOTH were.
And after a little bit of research, one was in-fact a doctor.
"Police identified the two men as Bilal Abdullah, a British-born, Muslim DOCTOR of Iraqi descent working at the Royal Alexandra Hospital,[11][12] and Kafeel Ahmed, also known as Khalid Ahmed, the driver, who was treated for severe burns at the same hospital"
Face it Toxic, you made a fool of yourself yet again and are only proving that you spew bullshit with no factual backing. OWNED.
Looks like plenty of educated Muslims are also falling victim to extremism.
I wouldn't be surprised if you even knew who Jemaah Islamiyah were. ::)
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Looks like plenty of educated Muslims are also falling victim to extremism.
you mean 1 :-\
you do know that you sound like a prissy wittle bitch when u whine like dat..
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you mean 1 :-\
you do know that you sound like a prissy wittle bitch when u whine like dat..
You claimed NO doctors or scientists are extremists. I gave you an example of a doctor who is one of the TOP LEADERS of the most deadly terrorist organization in southeastern Asia, you stupid twat.
I also gave you an example of a WESTERN DOCTOR who believed in extremism. There are other documented instances of doctors and other scholars falling under the sway of extremism.
You sound like a prissy little bitch when you get smacked in the proverbial mouth and are too much of a child to admit you made a claim that was disproven.
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You claimed NO doctors or scientists are extremists. I gave you an example of a doctor who is one of the TOP LEADERS of the most deadly terrorist organization in southeastern Asia, you stupid twat.
I also gave you an example of a WESTERN DOCTOR who believed in extremism. There are other documented instances of doctors and other scholars falling under the sway of extremism.
You sound like a prissy little bitch when you get smacked in the proverbial mouth and are too much of a child to admit you made a claim that was disproven.
guess the war in iraq is having EXACTLY the effect we wanted.. ;)
i write 2 lines you write me a novella....exactly whose feels pwned? ;D
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guess the war in iraq is having EXACTLY the effect we wanted.. ;)
i write 2 lines you write me a novella....exactly whose feels pwned? ;D
What does the war in Iraq have to do with Jemaah Islamiyah? They've been around for YEARS. They advocate the creation of a Muslim superstate across all of southeastern Asia. One of their TOP LEADERS is a doctor.
You should just remove yourself from this thread. You're just embarrassing yourself by trying to keep your claim of no doctors or scientists being terrorists afloat. I feel sorry for you. Can't ever admit you're wrong because you're under the delusion that you're actually intelligent and know everything about anything.
Rite das how teh mooslims talk about teh amreekans, eh? Can't even type coherently.
Trying to insult somone for writing a lot is pretty much a sign of defeat. You can't refute any of my points so you attack how much I wrote. You're oozing intelligence. ::)
Stick to abusing alcohol, steroids and cocaine. ;D
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What does the war in Iraq have to do with Jemaah Islamiyah? They've been around for YEARS. They advocate the creation of a Muslim superstate across all of southeastern Asia. One of their TOP LEADERS is a doctor.
You should just remove yourself from this thread. You're just embarrassing yourself by trying to keep your claim of no doctors or scientists being terrorists afloat. I feel sorry for you. Can't ever admit you're wrong because you're under the delusion that you're actually intelligent and know everything about anything.
Rite das how teh mooslims talk about teh amreekans, eh? Can't even type coherently.
Trying to insult somone for writing a lot is pretty much a sign of defeat. You can't refute any of my points so you attack how much I wrote. You're oozing intelligence. ::)
Stick to abusing alcohol, steroids and cocaine. ;D
fine we'll go by your mentality..all muslims r terrorists..
they r 1.4 billion of em
YOU mon ami are fucked! ;)
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fine we'll go by your mentality..all muslims r terrorists..
they r 1.4 billion of em
YOU mon ami are fucked! ;)
I don't recall claiming that. You claimed NO, ABSOLUTELY NO muslim doctors or scientists are terrorists. I proved you wrong in 30 seconds. You, like the typical muslim you are, then tried to turn my words around, subsequently got slapped in the proverbial mouth, and now are melting down as a result.
Like I said, stick to abusing steroids, alcohol and drugs. It suits you better, "mon ami".
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I don't recall claiming that. You claimed NO, ABSOLUTELY NO muslim doctors or scientists are terrorists. I proved you wrong in 30 seconds. You, like the typical muslim you are, then tried to turn my words around, subsequently got slapped in the proverbial mouth, and now are melting down as a result.
Like I said, stick to abusing steroids, alcohol and drugs. It suits you better, "mon ami".
hmm then exactly what r you trying to say...100% of your posts about muslims r negative except none actually make a point..
lets hear it
mon ami...dont..lol..only works when i do it mizzhearshysquirts! ;)
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While I won't resort to the ownage crap...toxic these pricks are all highly educated. It takes brains to take on the Western world...maybe the suicide bomber is an idiot, but he's trained by guys who know what they're doing.They are also smart enough not to sacrifice themselves. Most of these pricks are doctors in some mannner.
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While I won't resort to the ownage crap...toxic these pricks are all highly educated. It takes brains to take on the Western world...maybe the suicide bomber is an idiot, but he's trained by guys who know what they're doing.They are also smart enough not to sacrifice themselves. Most of these pricks are doctors in some mannner.
maybe..maybe not..
how many osamas did the war in iraq create btw?
lemme turn that around...if iraq had bombed america and your parents and wife had died in the bombing.what would you be doing right now?
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maybe..maybe not..
how many osamas did the war in iraq create btw?
lemme turn that around...if iraq had bombed america and your parents and wife had died in the bombing.what would you be doing right now?
Would I be killing Americans and blowing up malls full of women and children who had nothing to do with Iraq bombing us? Nope! ;)
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Its a ridiculous argument. How many did it create...not many actually..plenty of foot soldiers I'm sure. BF pretty much answered it.
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Would I be killing Americans and blowing up malls full of women and children who had nothing to do with Iraq bombing us? Nope! ;)
really??...BULLSHIT...remember when marten luther king ws shot...nothing equal to a bombing...
what ensued in America after?
wanna know what would happen after a massive bombing campaign?
exactly whats going on in iraq
you like to believe you r better...thats ok..
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really??...BULLSHIT...remember when marten luther king ws shot...nothing equal to a bombing...
what ensued in America after?
wanna know what would happen after a massive bombing campaign?
exactly whats going on in iraq
you like to believe you r better...thats ok..
I like that you're basically proclaiming what I do. Fortunately, I wouldn't be killing women and children just to prove my point. ::)
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I like that you're basically proclaiming what I do. Fortunately, I wouldn't be killing women and children just to prove my point. ::)
you get in a piss fit on here over me defending muslims
what you'd do if a muslim country actually attacked..
you'd lose your fucking mind is what...
you r easily rattled..
headhunter might keep his cool..but he is military..
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you get in a piss fit on here over me defending muslims
what you'd do if a muslim country actually attacked..
you'd lose your fucking mind is what...
you r easily rattled..
headhunter might keep his cool..but he is military..
So who are you saying I would target exactly? Muslims living in America? They're not Americans. One of my good friends at home is a Muslim. Pretty strict one too. No drinking, none of that. He's one of the nicest kids I've ever met. Couldn't lay a finger on him.
Fact of the matter Junaids, I wouldn't be driving a car loaded with 500 pounds of explosives into a festival, leaving it there and detonating it from a mile away when it was crowded.
Don't think I could cut someone's head off while screaming "God is great" either. Then again, I am educated. :-\
Actually, it's Getbig. I'd drop out of school, go straight into BUDS and join ST-6.
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One of my good friends at home is a Muslim. Pretty strict one too.
ahh so you talk shit about your <ahem> friends religion behind his back..
gotcha ;)
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He'd take to the hils..and he might fight. I guess u could look to the IRA. They killed alot of innocents so there is some Western precedent. I'd head for NE and fight in the mountains provided there was no US military actively fighting somewhere. I don't think I'd be blowing up malls to prove a point.
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ahh so you talk shit about your <ahem> friends religion behind his back..
gotcha ;)
Nah, he knows how I stand. He's whitified to me anyway.
Like I said. I don't hate all Muslims. I'm not going to get into it again because you're a crybaby twat trying to stir shit up.
Why don't you stop taking subtle shots, Junaids?
Honestly, if it happened I wouldn't have a problem showing up on your doorstep with a lynch mob. That's what you're implying, right? ::)
You'd probably be the first to die in a suicide bombing for the Pakistani motherland though. Poor, uneducated, ignorant. You seem to have absolutely no qualms about killing women or children. Typical terrorist sympathizing scum. :-\
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Nah, he knows how I stand. He's whitified to me anyway.
and earlier ya said
They're not Americans. One of my good friends at home is a Muslim. Pretty strict one too.
you r a lying pos.. :-\ caught in your own lie...a whitified strict muslim...riiiight!
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and earlier ya said
To me he is. He's strict. He doesn't do anything in public or that would draw attention to him though, like you and your family probably do. He doesn't talk about Islam or try to convert others to it. He goes about his thing, we go about ours. Doesn't drink or do anything that shitty book disapproves of.
What's it to you anyway, haji? I see you've gotten the proverbial shit kicked out of you in this thread so you're trying to take subtle shots at me. Really going to great lengths to prove that your claims of being intelligent are really just that, nothing but claims. :D
It's alright Junaids, you're a terrorist sympathizer and your heart lies with Islam first. Funny that you claim to be non-religious! Keep telling yourself that as you burn your knees on that rug mat five times a day.
Does Allah (praise be upon him) approve of your alcoholism, steroid abuse and rampant drug use?
An alcoholic drug addict that can't lift without having 700 mg of sust preloaded in his left ass cheek is trying to take a shot at me. I love it. :D
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What's it to you anyway, haji? I see you've gotten the proverbial shit kicked out of you in this thread
do u often tell yourself "i win " to feel better about yourself?
An alcoholic drug addict that can't lift without having 700 mg
go kill yourself..
sustanon comes in amps of 250mg/ml..
so its either 500mg/week ot 750.. :-\
you need more proof of your douchebag status?
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do u often tell yourself "i win " to feel better about yourself?
go kill yourself..
sustanon comes in amps of 250mg/ml..
so its either 500mg/week ot 750.. :-\
you need more proof of your douchebag status?
What's the matter druggie? Why do you throw a temper tantrum anytime someone disproves a claim of yours on here. You claimed no educated Muslims would engage in extremist events. I pointed out two in 30 seconds. You melted down, started crying and taking shots at me. I call you out on your rampant steroid, drug and alcohol abuse and you now sound like you're on the verge of tears.
Remember when you bragged about squatting 225 for 10 on 750 mg of sust? LOL!
Like I said. Stick to abusing drugs and booze. :D
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What's the matter druggie? Why do you throw a temper tantrum anytime someone disproves a claim of yours on here. You claimed no educated Muslims would engage in extremist events. I pointed out two in 30 seconds. You melted down, started crying and taking shots at me. I call you out on your rampant steroid, drug and alcohol abuse and you now sound like you're on the verge of tears.
Remember when you bragged about squatting 225 for 10 on 750 mg of sust? LOL!
Like I said. Stick to abusing drugs and booze. :D
yeah it ws me that vanished off of getbig for 6 months cause mommy made him! ;D
225 for 20...gawd your memory is horrible..you r wasting time in college..
did i hit a nerve ? ;D
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yeah it ws me that vanished off of getbig for 6 months cause mommy made him! ;D
225 for 20...gawd your memory is horrible..you r wasting time in college..
did i hit a nerve ? ;D
No, it was 225 for 10. And you're saying my memory is shot? I remember it. You made a thread on the G&O talking about how you're getting back into the rack, hit 185 for 10 and were hoping to be back at 225 for 10 in no time. You also pointed out that you were on 750mg of sust a week. After getting embarrassed for having to juice to hit 225 for 10 you found your invisible pair of testicles, made a challenge that you would squat 225 for 10 by the end of February 07 (complete with video) and then subsequently disappeared for close to 3 months. It's now 1.5+ years later and still no video. Probably still can't squat 225 for 10 either. :D
But hey, I'll bet you can blow 10 lines of coke in your bedroom in your parent's house while you hang out by yourself all night! :D
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Because I feel like proving that on top of everything else, my memory is also better than yours, here's one of the posts and a link to the thread. You should just remove yourself from this thread before it gets any more embarrassing for you.
gimme till ..till ..o fuck hell 225 for 10 by thurs..
\i'll forward the vid to 240 and have it posted..
i dunno how man..
225 for 10 is STILL a kinda sorta struggle asnd i get 315 for 4 with a wide stance..
thanx for actually accepting me challange! 8)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=post;quote=1831409;topic=129022.25;num_replies=192;sesc=c723d582e18d88f28f8f8227ea75b194
Wow. I said last February and everything. MmmmMmmmMmmm. ;)
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lol 2 posts in a row...r you also grinding your teeth as ya type little nick hershy of u conn! ;D
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lol 2 posts in a row...r you also grinding your teeth as ya type little nick hershy of u conn! ;D
Just felt like smacking you in the proverbial mouth again. Must sting getting proved wrong for the fourth or fifth time in one thread alone.
All that cocaine and alcohol abuse has fried your circuits, druggie. You should stop trying to pass yourself off as intelligent. I'm still laughing that you tried to insult me memory and ended up self-owning yourself. ;D
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Just felt like smacking you in the proverbial mouth again. Must sting getting proved wrong for the fourth or fifth time in one thread alone.
All that cocaine and alcohol abuse has fried your circuits, druggie. You should stop trying to pass yourself off as intelligent. I'm still laughing that you tried to insult me memory and ended up self-owning yourself. ;D
awww wittle bitchfury is peeved! btw..hows mom? shall i call her again? ;D or did yall get your #s changed? lol!
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awww wittle bitchfury is peeved! btw..hows mom? shall i call her again? ;D or did yall get your #s changed? lol!
The last stage before you disappear. The personal insults. Calm down coke head, you never called. I think I would know if someone who sounded like they worked a taxi or convenience store called.
By the way, still can't squat 225 for 10? 32 years old, still lives at home, still abuses cocaine and opiates, still abuse alcohol and still abuses steroids. You're just revolting against all that's Islam right, druggie? :D
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cause my parents r muslims...
and their belief system is nothing like his..
simple..
and Headhunter ya actually think there r muslim doctors and scientists out there that think mecca is the center of the world? :-\
its amazing that you actually believe educated 1st world muslims would think that :-\
I think this was his statement, not that they believe in extremes, there are many doctors who do....It's the center of world thing, PF was talking about.
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The last stage before you disappear. The personal insults. Calm down coke head, you never called. I think I would know if someone who sounded like they worked a taxi or convenience store called.
By the way, still can't squat 225 for 10? 32 years old, still lives at home, still abuses cocaine and opiates, still abuse alcohol and still abuses steroids. You're just revolting against all that's Islam right, druggie? :D
meltdown! ;D
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meltdown! ;D
You've been melting for over 24 hours now. You usually disappear for three weeks or so after you slip out of your nightly, cocaine induced coma though.
I think this was his statement, not that they believe in extremes, there are many doctors who do....It's the center of world thing, PF was talking about.
He expanded on it in this thread and the other.
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You usually disappear for three weeks
unlike you..i actually have other things in life :-*
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Islam sucks. Period.