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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Meltdown on April 27, 2008, 05:35:15 PM
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Look good on stage?????Chick says it's all Genetics amongst the IFBB Pros if that is a fact how many IFBB Pros would look great without any Drug use.Not one Drug in their system.I say some would look great but just smaller.But also Chick says who wants to look at small natural guys?Well here is a better question Chick who wants to look at guys on stage anyway?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Look good on stage?????Chick says it's all Genetics amongst the IFBB Pros if that is a fact how many IFBB Pros would look great without any Drug use.Not one Drug in their system.I say some would look great but just smaller.But also Chick says who wants to look at small natural guys?Well here is a better question Chick who wants to look at guys on stage anyway?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Good point... the truth hurts CHick!
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Look good on stage?????Chick says it's all Genetics amongst the IFBB Pros if that is a fact how many IFBB Pros would look great without any Drug use.Not one Drug in their system.I say some would look great but just smaller.But also Chick says who wants to look at small natural guys?Well here is a better question Chick who wants to look at guys on stage anyway?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Well, to a certain extent Chick is right-but only partly.
You have two potentials;
1- Natural potential
2- Drug potential
They are not the same. Someone who has a natural genetic potential may not have that same potential when using drugs-and vice versa.
So while genetics do play the MAJOR role in BBing, it is not the only role.
BBers who have the best natural potential may not be the best BBers for their drug potential.
Similarly the BBers who have fantastic drup potential would not be the best natural BBers.
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If drugs weren't significant, then why do all pros use or abuse them?
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Look good on stage?????Chick says it's all Genetics amongst the IFBB Pros if that is a fact how many IFBB Pros would look great without any Drug use.Not one Drug in their system.I say some would look great but just smaller.But also Chick says who wants to look at small natural guys?Well here is a better question Chick who wants to look at guys on stage anyway?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
They'd all "look good"...just not as good as they look now.
BB fans look at "guys on stage"...an even better question is, who want's to come on a BB message board and bitch about drugs all day long? Why come here?
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They'd all "look good"...just not as good as they look now.
BB fans look at "guys on stage"...an even better question is, who want's to come on a BB message board and bitch about drugs all day long? Why come here?
Hey Bob, what was your average caloric intake when training ''off-season''? Also what were some of your lifts like? What about deadlifts, straight bar curls etc?
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Good Question Bob now let me think why would I mention DRUGS on a FUKIN BB board.Well because BB is all Drug use and Abuse. The IFBB have Drug Rules which they don't enforce in fear way too many would get caught or stop competing.NO IFBB Pros means a shitload of MONEY GONE.You have said this also.NO DRUGS IN BB = NO Pro BB.It's Fukin sad isn't it.?????.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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ifbb drug policy is no worse than nfl, mla, nba, pga, nhl ad nauseam. all sports have to pretend, so lazy fuckers don't say " i could do that/look like that if i wanted to do drugs"
if you think there is a sport out there that hasn't had an untested champion that was on performance enhancers, you are wrong.
confucious say "man who believes all that he reads; better not read"
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If drugs were taken out of BB, the same guys would be winning the shows, obviously less impressive.
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I know we live in a Drug World and I could care less but FFS the IFBB should DELETE their Benign Drug Rule.Anyway Bob says it's all Genetics not Drugs.
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Say no to drugs.
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Say no to drugs.
except hash, opium, and magic mushrooms.
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I'm sure pro bodybuilders get tired of hearing about how heavily drugs play a part in it. Sure, you have to have the genetics, genetic response to gear, eat, workout, etc. At the end of the day though, these guys are walking pharmacies. If someone is ok with that, that's great. I can't imagine being fulfilled though abusing drugs for so many years, then lying to people about how I got "so big". It's their business and their choice, but with anyone in life...these same things apply.
Who I am to judge? ;D ::) My favorite one. If you have an opinion on someone, you always hear, "To each his own." etc...Oh man. ::)
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this is a great video
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Good Question Bob now let me think why would I mention DRUGS on a FUKIN BB board.Well because BB is all Drug use and Abuse.
and it has been since the late 1950s
The IFBB have Drug Rules which they don't enforce in fear way too many would get caught or stop competing.
No, they don't enforce it because it was never meant to be enforced. it's not like they had the rule, use to enforce it, then drugs took over. modern pro bodybuilding began in 1965 with the first Olympia, and all the pros were using drugs. the public just didn't know about it. Once it became known that "some bodybuilders" were using drugs, they came up with the rule. It's called plausible deniability.
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If drugs were taken out of BB, the same guys would be winning the shows, obviously less impressive.
Nope. each athlete responses differently to each type of drug. if GH were taken out of bodybuilding, different guys would be winning. those with better symmetry and proportionality would place better. GH hides form and symmetry, so you can't tell the difference between those who have it and those who don't. same with AS, insulin, diuretics, dnp, etc. if the drugs were different, different guys would be winning.
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I'm sure pro bodybuilders get tired of hearing about how heavily drugs play a part in it. Sure, you have to have the genetics, genetic response to gear, eat, workout, etc. At the end of the day though, these guys are walking pharmacies. If someone is ok with that, that's great. I can't imagine being fulfilled though abusing drugs for so many years, then lying to people about how I got "so big". It's their business and their choice, but with anyone in life...these same things apply.
Who I am to judge? ;D ::) My favorite one. If you have an opinion on someone, you always hear, "To each his own." etc...Oh man. ::)
drugs play a 100% pivotal role in bodybuilding.
that is to say... its 100% sure that you must be doing them to be in the pro's.
BUT out of the pros' who wins contests, is not really dependant on drugs at all. its more about diet and training and work ethic on that scale
so your both right and wrong bro
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Tim is right on all counts and the dude has been around the sport enough to know.My point is why don't the IFBB just Delete that benign Drug Rule it's laughable.WE ALL KNOW PROS USE AND ABUSE DRUGS.FFS.
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Chick thinks a Drug question on a BB forum is out of place but is Quick to talk about Fuking old women in a MILFS Thread.Just goes to show why Basile is going to bring them down from their high horse. ::)Vince has the DEA on notice.
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Nope. each athlete responses differently to each type of drug. if GH were taken out of bodybuilding, different guys would be winning. those with better symmetry and proportionality would place better. GH hides form and symmetry, so you can't tell the difference between those who have it and those who don't. same with AS, insulin, diuretics, dnp, etc. if the drugs were different, different guys would be winning.
exactly....
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MELTDOWN GET A FUCKIN LIFE YOU homo, IF YOU WANNA SEE PRETEEN BOYS POSING ON A STAGE GO TO THE NEVERLAND RANCH, THIS IS BODYBUILDING SO STFU ABOUT THEIR DRUG USE GOD DAMNIT FUCK
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no no no NO NO NO AND THEN SOME MORE NO
first and formost,,the only diff between you the hard working balanced bodybuilder and the professional bodybuilder is THE PROFESSIONAL RESPOND AND TOLARENCE TO HORMONES AND SADLY TO OTHER DRUGS THAT I WILL NOT GO HERE INTO DETAILS BUT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF BLACK MARCUS AND YOULL FIGURE IT ALL OUT,,
the hormones have a HUGE PLACE IN BODYBUILDING WETHER IT IS PROFESSIONAL OR AMATUER IT HAD HUGE ENOURMOUS PLACE,,the proffesional always respond phenominally to drugs and have very high tolerance to drugs untill completely destroying his body see many forgoten sick bodybuilders who went the pain killer narcotic route no names need mentioned
now,,with out hormones there woudldnt be professional bodybuilding nor would it be any gym ratsworth any second look,,it is not uniqe to only professional bodybuilder but professional got to be profession due to over all better response and tolarence to drugs,, dedication,, muscle shape and sacrifice made in COMPETETIVE BODYBUILDINGmmused to be symetry too but now days with the size its simply takes the belly into new dimentions that simply ruin any symetry and very few can pull the no gut look and those who can pull it sadly are smaller
if evryone was natural and hypoteticaly there were no drugs on planet earth only trainning and food,,you can be sure that many of you getbigger would be sitting right there next to mr ray on stage competing at a weight of 140-180 lb of ripped sculpted muscle to the prestigious o title,,
as i said many times before the MOST PERFECT NATURAL BODYBUILDER WAS STEVE REEVES AND EVEN HE WAS PLAYING IT LIKE A CHAMP AND LOOKING TO IMPROVE ,,HE HAD SHITTY PRODUCTS TO WORK WITH AND COULDNT DO NOTHIGN CONSISTANT WITH THEM AND THATS WHY HE WAS AND IS CONSIDERED NATURAL,,6'1? 210 best genetics in usa after couple of expetiemtns at its best with 6% thats where it ends for the natural guys today with some igf and little winstrol or dianabol then quit and considered natural,,smarter ones use turinabol and masteron with hgh and even if the lab jump upside down 400 times they still will come out with clean natural no drug in the system of that fella
bodybuilding with no hormones = pack the begs and go home ,,because yes ken wheeler may be doing little aas and growtj and come at 215 with half decent condition but give him none or a break of a year and he is right there at the 190 lb swimming happily at 13-15% ,,and this is one of the best "genetics"
on earth right? make him take his shirt off today and this is when he is on hormones but you will see how the best "genetics" can also be very average
genetics in bodybuilding usually refers to how well you carry the hormonized look and how well your muscle grow and respond to hormones as in blow from WITHING THE MUSCLE while keeping the waist as small as possible
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Chick thinks a Drug question on a BB forum is out of place but is Quick to talk about Fuking old women in a MILFS Thread.Just goes to show why Basile is going to bring them down from their high horse. ::)Vince has the DEA on notice.
Bringing up a drug question is fime...bringing it up in nearly every post you make, amkes you a nutjob.
Get off it already....why is this of such interest to you, anyway? Why do you are?
Do you go to the NFL board and do the same shit? Why not....they have a drug policy in place and never use it....same with every other sport.
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Bringing up a drug question is fime...bringing it up in nearly every post you make, amkes you a nutjob.
Get off it already....why is this of such interest to you, anyway? Why do you are?
Do you go to the NFL board and do the same shit? Why not....they have a drug policy in place and never use it....same with every other sport.
I think people are just interested in how overblown the drug use is in bodybuilding. Plus, other activities require talent, bodybuilding requires none. So, it's heavier drug usage, no talent base, giving drugs a much greater role in the equation. For example, I could ingest a ton of GH and test, but never have 5% of the talent Clemens has.
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I think people are just interested in how overblown the drug use is in bodybuilding. Plus, other activities require talent, bodybuilding requires none. So, it's heavier drug usage, no talent base, giving drugs a much greater role in the equation. For example, I could ingest a ton of GH and test, but never have 5% of the talent Clemens has.
THats because one is a physical activity...and the other is a physical skill. Comparing them is unfair. "Talent" is realized in many forms....doesn't make the effort and sacrifice any less.
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I think people are just interested in how overblown the drug use is in bodybuilding. Plus, other activities require talent, bodybuilding requires none. So, it's heavier drug usage, no talent base, giving drugs a much greater role in the equation. For example, I could ingest a ton of GH and test, but never have 5% of the talent Clemens has.
exactly, plenty of NFL players can run and have great instincts outside of any drug use-they also can bulk up and not worry about being cut-they dont have to rely on aas like a BBer.
BBing cant exist with huge amounts of drugs, thats not true of any real sport.
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Beener 1st thing you should do is UP your dose you seem like a well minded FUKTARD NOW FUK OFF and find some pussy who answers to Homo I Fukin don't.Now Chick you mention NFL well that may all be fine but how many who play for the NFL talk openly about their Drug use and Abuse like BBs do Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????.
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would it just thin the herd of pro bbers?
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Beener 1st thing you should do is UP your dose you seem like a well minded FUKTARD NOW FUK OFF and find some pussy who answers to Homo I Fukin don't.Now Chick you mention NFL well that may all be fine but how many who play for the NFL talk openly about their Drug use and Abuse like BBs do Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????.
Like who?
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I think people are just interested in how overblown the drug use is in bodybuilding. Plus, other activities require talent, bodybuilding requires none. So, it's heavier drug usage, no talent base, giving drugs a much greater role in the equation. For example, I could ingest a ton of GH and test, but never have 5% of the talent Clemens has.
the bodybuilder have lots of talent,,the bodybuilder talent is the abilioty of his blood to carry and utilize that "drugs" to the best of its physical (look wize) benefits,,it is a big talent of the human body,,not everyone on hormones get a very good response,,some get ver average repond and stop at the 20 -30 lb of over all bulk ...while some the moment they smell hormones start growing like little chimpanzee with balerina waist,,those are the ones who go far in bodybuilding,,rest of the gang end up doing national and quit into amatuer bodybuilding which is fine too
the moment you see a bodybuilder enter a gym you always need to ask yourself if you would respond as well to the drugs ,,i suggest if you are dedicated lifter to try and see how you respond so you know its not only what drugs you take but also HOW WELL YOUR SYSTEM RESPOND TO THEM
take for example matt c..i like bring him as examples from time to time :) and the england jamaican guy from the getbig board i forgot his name,,,in any case.....
you feed matt c with hormones and mattc will grow but wont grow to a beast ,,he will sit 220 -230 and his most impressive talent as you like to call it will be pushing very heavy weight,,at 220lb that fella will push weight that a 320lb jason cutler would ,,now thats impressive,,yet mat c wont ever have the muscle shape or symetry to become a professional,,
now take the jamaican fella ,,this fella go on hormones and he is within 2 years mr england then most likley compete ifbb and placing well as a professional,,his strength will grow too but his genetic response to hormone will be out of this world and he would become a professional under guidance or with out guidance
thats where its at,,genetic response to hormones with dedication
by the way i remember you had a shirt saying requests in some past post and i just saw a fella coming to the gym couple days ago with a shirt saying
keep on staring
i might do a trick
firl will think of you as egotistical narcsisit and will try to get you right there especially the whores,,and guys will ...stare,,,i ws thinking of croach when i saw that shirt :D
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Oh FFS CHICK I just read a thread where an IFBB Pro Steve Namat says only 3cycles before getting his Pro card.Chick don't ask a question like that the answer is very very LONG.
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Did you make it over to www.getbasketball.com and bitch to all the fans about how they have testing in the rules, but never test...HURRY!!
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Chick for your answer Milos himself told of his Synthol use and how he told doctors how to treat Mustafa from the Banned Drugs he had taken for a contest.Most of the Pros say Oh I only take a little bit of Drugs, need I go on. ::)Not the sort of talk you hear in NFL or any other sport for that.
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Bob the Truth hurts I feel the pain in many Pros voices when they get asked about their Drug Use But I say Fuk it I will use what I want as the IFBB REWARD Drug use and Abuse with Money and contracts.
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as long as it is only a little.....
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mgs = kgs sad but true especially when it comes to rock hard actual contest weight.
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Bob Asks a question and when he doesn't like the answer he moves to another point,that sounds like the IFBB Drug Rule it's here but does NOTHING.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M. ::)
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Bob the Truth hurts I feel the pain in many Pros voices when they get asked about their Drug Use But I say Fuk it I will use what I want as the IFBB REWARD Drug use and Abuse with Money and contracts.
No...the IFBB competitions reward a PHYSIQUE, and the physique thats deemed best on that day..how anyone gets there is their business...justvlike however a team wins, or an individual in any other sport...
BTW...did you go to www.gethockey.com today and bitch about their non testing for steroids even though it's in their rulebook....HURRY!!
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Bob Asks a question and when he doesn't like the answer he moves to another point,that sounds like the IFBB Drug Rule it's here but does NOTHING.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M. ::)
LOL....so , your answer was some pro I've never heard of, and Milos, who's een retired for years?? Give me one CURRENT pro who talks about their drug use....
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Why Hurry you asked me to name a IFBB Pro that has said he takes Drugs and I did.Your question was answered now here is one for you Name one athlete still competing in any other sport in the FUKIN World that talks about their Drug Use.FFS.You are the Pros Rep and you haven't heard of Steve Namat he is on this getbig with a thread about himself. Bob he pays his Fees and has an IFBB Pro card does that count.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Bob doesn't know who this Pro is.Hungary is another country Chick Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Why Hurry you asked me to name a IFBB Pro that has said he takes Drugs and I did.Your question was answered now here is one for you Name one athlete still competing in any other sport in the FUKIN World that talks about their Drug Use.FFS.You are the Pros Rep and you haven't heard of Steve Namat he is on this getbig with a thread about himself. Bob he pays his Fees and has an IFBB Pro card does that count.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Bob doesn't know who this Pro is.Hungary is another country Chick Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hahaahaha....thats not his real name, fool.
BTW...did you go to www.getswimming.com and start bitching about the lack of testing, even though it's in the rules? HURRY!
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LOL....so , your answer was some pro I've never heard of, and Milos, who's een retired for years?? Give me one CURRENT pro who talks about their drug use....
Lee Priest? :D
Your boy TP talked about them a bit on Mayhem back in the day, "never once used insulin", "never took more than 2iu of growth" :D
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Oh FFS CHICK I just read a thread where an IFBB Pro Steve Namat says only 3cycles before getting his Pro card.
yeah, but they were when he was 17 & 18, 19 & 20, and 21 & 22
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THats because one is a physical activity...and the other is a physical skill. Comparing them is unfair. "Talent" is realized in many forms....doesn't make the effort and sacrifice any less.
Discipline/consistency for sure, but unless talent implies genetics, then bodybuilding has none. I've trained for 15 years and would argue, it takes more talent to juggle poorly, then build a decent physique. Once you add drugs, the consitency and discipline can lack even and you'll still make impressive gains.
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Man I laughed good at this whole thread. The answer is simple...if there were no drugs in Pro Bodybuilding, there would be no pro bodybuilding. it would be where the other organizations that have drug free contests. No where. The only reason there is an IFBB is because of the drugs pure and simple. No if's and's or but's.
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hahaahaha....thats not his real name, fool.
Are you saying Steve Namats name is not Steve Namat ???
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Was it the '95 Olympia that was supposed to be diuretics tested after Momo Benazizza died? I just remember that only like three guys showed up in shape (Yates, Ray, and someone else). Or, if you want to see a drug-free pro show, youtube the WBF 2nd Chamionships, and stop watching before Strydom or Quinn (Jim) comes out.
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Are you saying Steve Namats name is not Steve Namat ???
Istvan Nemeth
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Was it the '95 Olympia that was supposed to be diuretics tested after Momo Benazizza died? I just remember that only like three guys showed up in shape (Yates, Ray, and someone else). Or, if you want to see a drug-free pro show, youtube the WBF 2nd Chamionships, and stop watching before Strydom or Quinn (Jim) comes out.
The WBF guys looked like shit mainly due to the high fat/ Mario DePasquale diet they were using.....
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Istvan Nemeth
LOL....so , your answer was some pro I've never heard of,
How come you claim to have never heard of him?
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How come you claim to have never heard of him?
because I didn't recognise the name at first, as he turned pro under his real name, not Steve Namat
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because I didn't recognise the name at first, as he turned pro under his real name, not Steve Namat
Oh, now what do you have to say about this post?
Oh FFS CHICK I just read a thread where an IFBB Pro Steve Namat says only 3cycles before getting his Pro card.Chick don't ask a question like that the answer is very very LONG.
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Oh, now what do you have to say about this post?
nothing...i've never read it.
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nothing...i've never read it.
This post makes it sound like you read it.....
LOL....so , your answer was some pro I've never heard of, and Milos, who's een retired for years?? Give me one CURRENT pro who talks about their drug use....
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This post makes it sound like you read it.....
It makes it sound like I read it, when I say I've never heard of the guy who alledgedly wrote it???
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It makes it sound like I read it, when I say I've never heard of the guy who alledgedly wrote it???
Oh how you play ignorant, Chicky.... :-*
I'll drop it cause "Steve" seems like a good guy that could hang here with his sense of humor.
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Oh how you play ignorant, Chicky.... :-*
I'll drop it cause "Steve" seems like a good guy that could hang here with his sense of humor.
You'll drop it because you caught yourself making no sense...
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You'll drop it because you caught yourself making no sense...
Bullshit.....don't be an idiot Chick, you know exactly what the conversation revolved around, you are ignoring the facts presented here....I'm dropping it because Steve seems like a good guy, I'm not going to push his name and what he has talked about here.
You had a good physique, and you do a halfassed job as "athletes" rep, but don't act like some people don't see through your act.
Good night, Ifbb bottom boy. :-*
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Bullshit.....don't be an idiot Chick, you know exactly what the conversation revolved around, you are ignoring the facts presented here....I'm dropping it because Steve seems like a good guy, I'm not going to push his name and what he has talked about here.
You had a good physique, and you do a halfassed job as "athletes" rep, but don't act like some people don't see through your act.
Good night, Ifbb bottom boy. :-*
Making yourself look even dumber....knowing what the conversation revolved around has nothing to do with not knowing who he was talking about. I've never read any such thread, and didn't know the name he mentioned....those are the facts. You were trying to be a smartass, and you ended up making a fool of yourself.
now scram...
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now scram...
lol ;D
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Lee priest talked about his drug dosages like a month ago on no bull radio..
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1161/140/
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I'm sure pro bodybuilders get tired of hearing about how heavily drugs play a part in it. Sure, you have to have the genetics, genetic response to gear, eat, workout, etc. At the end of the day though, these guys are walking pharmacies. If someone is ok with that, that's great. I can't imagine being fulfilled though abusing drugs for so many years, then lying to people about how I got "so big". It's their business and their choice, but with anyone in life...these same things apply.
Who I am to judge? ;D ::) My favorite one. If you have an opinion on someone, you always hear, "To each his own." etc...Oh man. ::)
It's the equivalent of "it's god's plan" from a religious person. ;D
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The WBF guys looked like shit mainly due to the high fat/ Mario DePasquale diet they were using.....
It wasn't the diet, it was the lack of drugs. Look how bad the guys looked at the drug tested 1990 Mr. Olympia. Lee Haney was nowhere near his best, nor was anyone else.
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It wasn't the diet, it was the lack of drugs. Look how bad the guys looked at the drug tested 1990 Mr. Olympia. Lee Haney was nowhere near his best, nor was anyone else.
Please...match the line ups against each other...it's not even close. The WBF guys were amongst the worst to step on a pro stage at that show.
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They'd all "look good"...just not as good as they look now.
exactly. and that's why the ifbb is the best organisation in the world, as they get the best of the best from all over the world. blows natty and other drug-using comps out of the water for this reason.
if ifbb went natty, they could get the best natty's from all over the world, but chances are that either the npc or a new drug-using organisation would do more sales than the ifbb's mr olympia, if it went natty.
that's why there's no testing.
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Please...match the line ups against each other...it's not even close. The WBF guys were amongst the worst to step on a pro stage at that show.
Of course, the WBF guys looked worse, they had less time to prepare, only a couple of weeks versus all year for the Mr. O. I wasn't comparing contests anyway. The point was that pros will never look their best on stage without the drugs, especially pre-contest. Of course if they're on a high fat diet they're going to look that much worse. Why would they listen to some hack doctor that isn't a bodybuilder?
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Of course, the WBF guys looked worse, they had less time to prepare. At the 1990 mr. Olympia, the guys were warned farther in advance that there would be drug testing and still no one looked near there best, that's my point. I wasn't comparing contests anyway.
Less time to prepare??
I was training with Danny Padilla at the time as he was geting ready, and following the Dr. DePasquale diet...for MONTHS....they had plenty of time to prepare, and knew in advance they were going to be tested, as they were tested throughout the year....
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Drugs mean nothing in Bodybuilding.
Now days its all about who gives the judges the best blow jobs.
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Drugs mean nothing in Bodybuilding.
Now days its all about who gives the judges the best blow jobs.
If that's the case then you should be Mr Olympia. :D
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Discipline/consistency for sure, but unless talent implies genetics, then bodybuilding has none. I've trained for 15 years and would argue, it takes more talent to juggle poorly, then build a decent physique. Once you add drugs, the consitency and discipline can lack even and you'll still make impressive gains.
The talent part would come from being able to show your physique on contest day to it's full potential. Look at a guy like Paul Dillet. If he could actually hit and hold a pose and show his physique he would have had at least one sandow. BTW, come to the darkside your body looks like a pile of burning tires. :)
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They'd all "look good"...just not as good as they look now.
BB fans look at "guys on stage"...an even better question is, who want's to come on a BB message board and bitch about drugs all day long? Why come here?
HAHAHA, so true...
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Recently read that Mike Matarazzo said that if he could do it all over again, he would
never have taken drugs. He fucked up his health, as did many others of the last twenty
years. Most of these BB'ers will not live past 60. Nothing is more important than your health,
especially not in the Bodybuilding world. Did a study once of the best known Bodybuilders
from the 40's and 50's, and very few of them lived past 80. Most died of health related issues This was before all the drugs use. Does not seem like Bodybuilders form the 60's and on will do any better.
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Recently read that Mike Matarazzo said that if he could do it all over again, he would
never have taken drugs. He fucked up his health, as did many others of the last twenty
years. Most of these BB'ers will not live past 60. Nothing is more important than your health,
especially not in the Bodybuilding world. Did a study once of the best known Bodybuilders
from the 40's and 50's, and very few of them lived past 80. Most died of health related issues This was before all the drugs use. Does not seem like Bodybuilders form the 60's and on will do any better.
Got news for you, bro....MOST PEOPLE DIE OF HEALTH RELATED ISSUES.
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Did a study once of the best known Bodybuilders from the 40's and 50's, and very few of them lived past 80.
and how did that compare to the best known non-bodybuilders in the 40s and 50s? non-bodybuilding athletes?
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Recently read that Mike Matarazzo said that if he could do it all over again, he would
never have taken drugs. He fucked up his health, as did many others of the last twenty
years. Most of these BB'ers will not live past 60. Nothing is more important than your health,
especially not in the Bodybuilding world. Did a study once of the best known Bodybuilders
from the 40's and 50's, and very few of them lived past 80. Most died of health related issues This was before all the drugs use. Does not seem like Bodybuilders form the 60's and on will do any better.
So you did a "study" did ypu?? And please do tell where this "study" is published.....
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=211966.0
BOOM!
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The WBF guys looked like shit mainly due to the high fat/ Mario DePasquale diet they were using.....
aint that the DP diet too
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Nice to see so many think the same and Onlyme has been around and knows heaps of Pros and even he said he got a great laugh at this Thread and how Bob just doesn't know how to rope in Pro BBs who openly talk about their Drug courses and if they do he just says he doesn't know them or they are old and RETIERD like Milos well GETBIGGERS on here Name every IFBB Pro who has openly talked about their Drug Course for Chick as he says NFL and all sports have Drug Rules just like IFBB and NEVER TEST their Athletes.FFS. ::)
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Bob you told me to go to the swimming site and many other sporting sites.I have done that and surprise surprise not one mention of athletes openly talking about what DRUGS they use.Maybe you can prove me wrong but I doubt it. ::)
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Bob you told me to go to the swimming site and many other sporting sites.I have done that and surprise surprise not one mention of athletes openly talking about what DRUGS they use.Maybe you can prove me wrong but I doubt it. ::)
Did you write your last 100 posts on why they dont test their athetes despite having it in their rules, like you do here?
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No my point is every other sport NOT FUKIN ONE ATHLETE talks about what Drugs they use.Have you got that yet.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m.Just read your Friends Steve Namat thread or have you asked him to delete the part where he says what he as an IFBB Pro takes to get his Pro card.
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Making yourself look even dumber....knowing what the conversation revolved around has nothing to do with not knowing who he was talking about. I've never read any such thread, and didn't know the name he mentioned....those are the facts. You were trying to be a smartass, and you ended up making a fool of yourself.
now scram...
So you're not playing dumb? You really are a fuckin idiot?
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So you're not playing dumb? You really are a fuckin idiot?
I said scram, loser....
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I said scram, loser....
How about you just answer the question, idiot.
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How about you just answer the question, idiot.
Don't get mad at me....you made of fool of yourself. Be a man and admit it....
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No my point is every other sport NOT FUKIN ONE ATHLETE talks about what Drugs they use.Have you got that yet.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m.Just read your Friends Steve Namat thread or have you asked him to delete the part where he says what he as an IFBB Pro takes to get his Pro card.
Firstly you're a fuckin homo and everyone knows it.
Secondly, Chick just time him out already hes so fucking annoying and never stfu's about this drug rule bullshit.
Thirdly, god damnit stfu you flaming homo
and last, why you changin your story, you started this whole faggoty crusade sayin that theres a rule, yet its not tested. now your problem is that the ifbb pros talk openly about it.
WHO FUCKING CARES? YOU AND ONLY YOU. Chaos prolly doesnt care either, he just likes fighting wtih chick.
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Chaos prolly doesnt care either, he just likes fighting wtih chick.
Settle down beener, it's just the internet. 8)
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Now there is No reason for name calling Bob just does as he is told by the powers to be namely the IFBB any Fukin Fool knows that to be a competitive IFBB Pro Drugs are a way of life.Yet he goes on and on about other sports But he will never be able to come up with one name of another Sports person still competing in their chosen sport talking about their Drug Use and Abuse.Just one Chick oh other than BBs because we know that. ::)Nice post Beener Up your dosage you FUKTARD stay out of a mans business go and find a FAG TO PLAY WITH BITCH.
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Re: New and Improved Steve Namat in 2008
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Quote from: Meltdown on April 26, 2008, 08:41:46 PM
How many cycles would you have taken to get your IFBB Pro card?
To tell you the truth two offseason and one precontest cycle in one year (8-12 weeks each).
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Re: New and Improved Steve Namat in 2008
« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2008, 06:51:53 AM » Quote
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Quote from: Meltdown on April 26, 2008, 08:41:46 PM
How many cycles would you have taken to get your IFBB Pro card?
To tell you the truth two offseason and one precontest cycle in one year (8-12 weeks each).
He's talking about cardio....."cycles"....He was obviously doing an incredible amount of biking in order to go through 3 of them....Those schwinns don't last as long as the one's they used to make....
He should really consider using a treadmill and save himself the money of going through 3 cycles....ROOKIES!
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You might be Stupid but those here are Not, even Lee spoke on Radio about his Drug taking for BB.Chick say what you want but Basile has you worried with all his phone calls to the DEA.IFBB Drug Rule = No Fukin Drug Rule.
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You might be Stupid but those here are Not, even Lee spoke on Radio about his Drug taking for BB.Chick say what you want but Basile has you worried with all his phone calls to the DEA.IFBB Drug Rule = No Fukin Drug Rule.
Looks like you're the stupid one here.....I can't believe you actually fell for that....lol....oldest trick in the book!! You actually thought he was talking about doing steroids?!?
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Stupid is as Stupid does Bob and what about Lee and Milos and Nasser and and and and and and and FFS Act as stupid as you want try to cover up as much as you can.Drug Abusing IFBB Pros know what they type and we all know once it's on the net it's there forever somewhere.So man up Bob and just admit it like so many Pros before have.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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What a maroon...!!
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Great comeback from a guy who says he is a Pro and doesn't know what a BB means by his "CYCLE" Now who looks Fukin Stupid Bob.Still waiting for you to post the names of other sports people who are still competing in their chosen Fields saying what Illegal Drug use they do for competition.If only you knew how many people read these Threads Bob you might not make such STUPID comments.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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they are not drugs they are supplements! ;D
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Chick if all this use is just supps and cardio cycles as mentioned by Pros Why don't the IFBB use their Anti Drug Rule and test Pros????You can go around in circles people here are not Fukin Stupid.Now that Basile has you worried with his DEA talk Fuk are you doing backflips.Still waiting for you to name one fukin athlete still competing in their chosen sport talking about their Drug Use.WELL MUPPET.
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Chick if all this use is just supps and cardio cycles as mentioned by Pros Why don't the IFBB use their Anti Drug Rule and test Pros????You can go around in circles people here are not Fukin Stupid.Now that Basile has you worried with his DEA talk Fuk are you doing backflips.Still waiting for you to name one fukin athlete still competing in their chosen sport talking about their Drug Use.WELL MUPPET.
Ask the IFBB.....why you asking me why they chose not to test?
Still waiting for one coherent sentence to come from you.....
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The DEA will ask soon enough.I don't think I asked you as per usual you chose to chime in because IFBB was mentioned.A little like Bens show I don't recall him asking for your input either.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Ask the IFBB.....why you asking me why they chose not to test?
Still waiting for one coherent sentence to come from you.....
I think Christmas will come before you get a coherent sentence out of this poor fellow.
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I love it....a bunch of guys ...most of which have never seen the inside of a gym, much less stepped on a competition stage. The other experts, never having the experience of taking AAS...all talking like authorities on the subject of how much steroids contribute to a pro's physique...
LOL
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You don't need to take Poison to know it will Fukin Kill you.Now get back to injecting your Sus250 that would be your scripted over 40 HRTs.We all know how low your Natural test would be after years of juicing.
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NO, but you need to have a million dollars to know what it's like to be a millionaire...
Walk a mile in my shoes, son....until then, you don't know JACK or SHIT.
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Point Taken Bob your a Good Guy.Just Remember things are not always as they seem. ;D
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Bob if in fact it is all Genetics as you say why does Tom Prince look the way he does today,not just him but so many Pros with all this Genetic ABILITY and now they Look like SHIT.??hMMMMMMMMMM
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Bob if in fact it is all Genetics as you say why does Tom Prince look the way he does today,not just him but so many Pros with all this Genetic ABILITY and now they Look like SHIT.??hMMMMMMMMMM
Nobody "genetically" walks around at 300 lbs with abs....
Lets see...he doesnt take gear, doesn't train, doesn't eat like a BB, doesn't take any supps....other than that, I couldn't tell you.
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IFBB would have you and all the Kids think No Pro uses Gear maybe he could do a CYCLE you yourself said Cycles are great for Cardio.
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IFBB would have you and all the Kids think No Pro uses Gear maybe he could do a CYCLE you yourself said Cycles are great for Cardio.
::) anyone over 13 years old with half a brain knows pro bb'ers juice but so do pro football players, baseball players, basketball players, hockey players, Olympic athletes, etc, why not direct some hate their way for a change.
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Nobody "genetically" walks around at 300 lbs with abs....
Lets see...he doesnt take gear, doesn't train, doesn't eat like a BB, doesn't take any supps....other than that, I couldn't tell you.
bob sapp passes his steroid tests
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No Squad I don't give a Fuk about Drugs.It's that Fukin Benign IFBB Drug Rule I want DELETED.The Fuks should not have a Rule they can Enforce whenever they choose.DELETE THE FUKIN RULE.
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bob sapp passes his steroid tests
Bob Sapp is 6'5" and you don't honestly believe that guy is natural do you?
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If drugs were taken out of BB, the same guys would be winning the shows, obviously less impressive.
To a certain extent, maybe, but some guys are super-responders to drugs. Kevin Levrone is an obvious example - on drugs he's a guy who should have a couple Sandows, off he's some skinny dude most decent naturals would laugh at.
<waiting for Earl's inevitable retort>
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No Squad I don't give a Fuk about Drugs.It's that Fukin Benign IFBB Drug Rule I want DELETED.The Fuks should not have a Rule they can Enforce whenever they choose.DELETE THE FUKIN RULE.
Sometimes you have to have rules that everyone breaks and hardly anyone enforces to shut up vocal minorities. For example, everyone speeds from time to time, and most everyone drank before turning 21. These laws are widely ignored, but they'll never be repealed because the soccer moms would throw a fit. So the status quo remains, and everyone just pretends. Same thing w the IFBB and the drug rule.
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Goat I know what your saying is true So why not just Delete that benign Drug Rule.FFS as if a blind cat couldn't tell that IFBB Pros are loaded with Banned and Illegal Drugs that the IFBB REWARD for using because if they were against Drug use they would enforce their own Fukin Rules.
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Bringing up a drug question is fime...bringing it up in nearly every post you make, amkes you a nutjob.
Get off it already....why is this of such interest to you, anyway? Why do you are?
Do you go to the NFL board and do the same shit? Why not....they have a drug policy in place and never use it....same with every other sport.
OH please Chick, there is no comparsion to the levels of AAS used in IFBB compared to NFL.
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quite right bodybuilders are broke and cant afford much till they get their big contract, NFL players have unlimited funds believe me, NFL guys use more harder to detect drugs such as HGH and IGF than any bodybuilders do, Bodybuilders more test and insulin its cheap, obviously take ronnie and Jay out of this picture, once bodybuilders start getting big fat contracts or prize money notice that extra income seems to result in extra competitive bodyweight nearly each time out, must be from all the extra protein shakes they can afford to buy. ;D
But seriously guys all sports abuse drugs, and testing is just a minor disruption to those who know what they are doing.
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Hey Bob, what was your average caloric intake when training ''off-season''? Also what were some of your lifts like? What about deadlifts, straight bar curls etc?
Newbie, don't expect an answer. That's not the way things work around here. Just a heads up.
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NEVER HAPPEN. ::)
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Vince is on the job of cleaning up the Blatant Drug Abuse in the IFBB with a little help from others.