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This dude makes Killary seem somewhat honest :-\
Monday, April 28, 2008 9:39 AM
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, Barack Obama again fabricated the background of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to try to excuse his longtime pastor’s denunciations of America and of whites.
Referring to racial discrimination, violence, and segregation, Obama said Wright “went through experiences that I never went through.”
In his speech on race in Philadelphia, Obama made similar claims. He described a “lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family . . .”
Obama said this was “the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up . . . For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.”
But as detailed in an April 13 Newsman article, “Obama’s Rev. Wright Mythology,” Obama’s characterization of his mentor’s upbringing is untrue.
Wright grew up in a racially mixed, middle-class section of Philadelphia called Germantown, which consisted of homes on broad tree-lined streets. Both his parents had good jobs: His father was a pastor; his mother was vice principal of Philadelphia High School for Girls.
Wright was privileged to attend the elite Central High School, which admits only the most highly-qualified applicants from all over the city. When Wright attended Central High, the student body was 90 percent white, according to students who attended at around the same time.
Wright’s classmates clearly respected him. The 211th class yearbook described him as the “epitome of what Central endeavors to imbue in its students.”
In contrast to Wright, Bill Cosby, who also attended Central High, has denounced the black culture of victimhood that Wright has promoted in his sermons, a culture that Cosby says sets up blacks for failure.
Since the Newsmax story on Wright’s background ran, only Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly has picked up on the fact that Obama’s characterization of his preacher’s upbringing is fiction.
Meanwhile, the coverage resurgence of Wright over the weekend spotlights the fact that, by suppressing any mention of Wright until mid-March, the media in effect selected Obama as the Democrats’ nominee.
Wright appeared in a Bill Moyers interview on Friday, gave a talk to the NAACP in Detroit on Sunday, and spoke to the National Press Club this morning. As a result, clips of Wright denouncing America and claiming the country introduced the AIDS virus to kill off blacks have been blanketing the airwaves.
Moreover, at the NAACP, Wright in effect ratified the black culture of failure by saying African-Americans’ brains are different than those of whites: If they speak differently from whites, they are not wrong — just different, he said, implying that they should not be corrected.
If the Obama-loving media had picked up on stories that Newsmax started running in January before the primaries began about Obama and his relationship with his pastor, Hillary Clinton undoubtedly would be ahead today in delegates and votes.
After the media finally ran the stories, Obama’s double-digit lead over Clinton in national polls vanished. At the same time, John McCain shot up in the polls.
As Ken Blackwell, a black columnist, recently wrote, the media have covered Obama “as if he were in a beauty pageant.” In doing so, they have done a disservice to Democrats by not telling the truth about Obama and his pastor until most of the primaries were over.
By not reporting how Obama is using bogus claims about Wright’s upbringing to excuse his “God damn America” tirades, the media are continuing the coverup.
Louisiana Governor Before Katrina: "We're in Good Shape"
Touring devastated areas of New Orleans last week, Sen. John McCain said that if he had been president when Hurricane Katrina hit, the first thing he would have done is fly out to the nearest Air Force base to view the scene. McCain rightly pointed out that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was unaware of developments which anyone watching television saw.
“Never again, never again will a disaster of this nature be handled in the terrible and disgraceful way that it was handled," McCain told reporters. But as McCain also pointed out, the response to Hurricane Katrina was “a perfect storm” of mismanagement by federal, state, and local governments.
The Sunday before the hurricane hit, Bush’s longtime friend James B. Francis Jr. and his wife Debbie were staying with the president at the Crawford ranch. That morning, Francis tells me, he was with Bush as he made calls from a phone at the dock on Bush’s lake.
“One call was to Governor Kathleen Blanco,” Francis says, referring to the then-governor of Louisiana. “He apparently had talked with her the day before. He asked her if she had everything she needed. He asked if the mandatory evacuation was going to take place. He said, ‘I want to make the assets of the federal government available to you. I want you to tell me if there is anything you need.’’’
“No, we’re in good shape,” Blanco responded.
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright/2008/04/28/91553.html
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BARRACK FOR PRESIDENT!
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they all lie.
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This is what happens when you stop making them sit at the back of the bus.
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Thats right coach, don't vote for Obama because his preacher has a big ego and won't shut up and because Obama didn't wear a flag lapel pin. That right there means he should be noosed up in a tree, right? ::)
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Joe,
Can you list 5 ways that McCain will fix the economy, unemployment, and rising food/gas prices?
Or can you just list Obama lies all day? thanks!
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Coach - All that says is that Wright may have misrepresented himself to Obama in order to gain 'street cred'.
At the time he began following him, Obama had no reason to suspect that Wright was lying about his background.
Nevertheless, even in light of all that we know, it would be a mistake to conclude that Wright never witnessed or was never subjected to ANY racism.
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Killary? ;D
McCain actually, in real life, flew off the deck of that aircraft carrier many times in his fighter-bomber and dropped napalm on Vietnamese children while they were sleeping in their grass huts, and you call Hillary Killary? OK.
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joloco keyboard warrior..never served in military. another real warrior like my cousin dick cheney
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Thats right coach, don't vote for Obama because his preacher has a big ego and won't shut up and because Obama didn't wear a flag lapel pin. That right there means he should be noosed up in a tree, right? ::)
Or the fact that he is a marxist and has absolutely no experience at all.
A noose sounds about right to me.
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Newsmax is not a reputable news organization. It's as much of a propaganda machine for the right as motherjones is for the left.
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Joe,
Can you list 5 ways that McCain will fix the economy, unemployment, and rising food/gas prices?
Or can you just list Obama lies all day? thanks!
Joe?
To most getbiggers, the economy means a shitload more than some pastor.
Can you please tell us, 5 ways that McCain will fix the economy, unemployment, and rising food/gas prices?
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Joe?
To most getbiggers, the economy means a shitload more than some pastor.
Can you please tell us, 5 ways that McCain will fix the economy, unemployment, and rising food/gas prices?
what is the 5 ways Obama will fix it?
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what is the 5 ways Obama will fix it?
I don't know. I would love it if Obama supporters would tell us that too.
My point is that The Coach, Joe, is trying to tell us to vote for Mccain because Obama has an idiot preacher or because Obama lies.
My point is that Americans should elect the candidate who will FIRST fix the economy.
I'd like to know what his candidate, mccain, will do to fix it.
He won't answer.
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I am a gun ho conservative who dragged his knuckles to formation everday for 8 years in USMC(0311).
Most librals are socialist pigs and live in a world of fantasy.
With that said I dont like mcain or bush(anymore). Both are librals in rep clothing.
Lmao and you think Clinton or Obama will lower gas prices how?
I hope you all look forward to turning your guns in and taxes like this country has never seen.
Hope change lololololololol.
If i cut your arms and legs off that would be a change, but would it make anything better.
The president of B.E.T(a black man and activist) said himself "If Obama was white he would not be in the running for president"
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This dude makes Killary seem somewhat honest :-\
Monday, April 28, 2008 9:39 AM
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, Barack Obama again fabricated the background of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to try to excuse his longtime pastor’s denunciations of America and of whites.
Referring to racial discrimination, violence, and segregation, Obama said Wright “went through experiences that I never went through.”
In his speech on race in Philadelphia, Obama made similar claims. He described a “lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family . . .”
Obama said this was “the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up . . . For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.”
But as detailed in an April 13 Newsman article, “Obama’s Rev. Wright Mythology,” Obama’s characterization of his mentor’s upbringing is untrue.
Wright grew up in a racially mixed, middle-class section of Philadelphia called Germantown, which consisted of homes on broad tree-lined streets. Both his parents had good jobs: His father was a pastor; his mother was vice principal of Philadelphia High School for Girls.
Wright was privileged to attend the elite Central High School, which admits only the most highly-qualified applicants from all over the city. When Wright attended Central High, the student body was 90 percent white, according to students who attended at around the same time.
Wright’s classmates clearly respected him. The 211th class yearbook described him as the “epitome of what Central endeavors to imbue in its students.”
In contrast to Wright, Bill Cosby, who also attended Central High, has denounced the black culture of victimhood that Wright has promoted in his sermons, a culture that Cosby says sets up blacks for failure.
Since the Newsmax story on Wright’s background ran, only Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly has picked up on the fact that Obama’s characterization of his preacher’s upbringing is fiction.
Meanwhile, the coverage resurgence of Wright over the weekend spotlights the fact that, by suppressing any mention of Wright until mid-March, the media in effect selected Obama as the Democrats’ nominee.
Wright appeared in a Bill Moyers interview on Friday, gave a talk to the NAACP in Detroit on Sunday, and spoke to the National Press Club this morning. As a result, clips of Wright denouncing America and claiming the country introduced the AIDS virus to kill off blacks have been blanketing the airwaves.
Moreover, at the NAACP, Wright in effect ratified the black culture of failure by saying African-Americans’ brains are different than those of whites: If they speak differently from whites, they are not wrong — just different, he said, implying that they should not be corrected.
If the Obama-loving media had picked up on stories that Newsmax started running in January before the primaries began about Obama and his relationship with his pastor, Hillary Clinton undoubtedly would be ahead today in delegates and votes.
After the media finally ran the stories, Obama’s double-digit lead over Clinton in national polls vanished. At the same time, John McCain shot up in the polls.
As Ken Blackwell, a black columnist, recently wrote, the media have covered Obama “as if he were in a beauty pageant.” In doing so, they have done a disservice to Democrats by not telling the truth about Obama and his pastor until most of the primaries were over.
By not reporting how Obama is using bogus claims about Wright’s upbringing to excuse his “God damn America” tirades, the media are continuing the coverup.
Louisiana Governor Before Katrina: "We're in Good Shape"
Touring devastated areas of New Orleans last week, Sen. John McCain said that if he had been president when Hurricane Katrina hit, the first thing he would have done is fly out to the nearest Air Force base to view the scene. McCain rightly pointed out that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was unaware of developments which anyone watching television saw.
“Never again, never again will a disaster of this nature be handled in the terrible and disgraceful way that it was handled," McCain told reporters. But as McCain also pointed out, the response to Hurricane Katrina was “a perfect storm” of mismanagement by federal, state, and local governments.
The Sunday before the hurricane hit, Bush’s longtime friend James B. Francis Jr. and his wife Debbie were staying with the president at the Crawford ranch. That morning, Francis tells me, he was with Bush as he made calls from a phone at the dock on Bush’s lake.
“One call was to Governor Kathleen Blanco,” Francis says, referring to the then-governor of Louisiana. “He apparently had talked with her the day before. He asked her if she had everything she needed. He asked if the mandatory evacuation was going to take place. He said, ‘I want to make the assets of the federal government available to you. I want you to tell me if there is anything you need.’’’
“No, we’re in good shape,” Blanco responded.
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright/2008/04/28/91553.html
Uuuh Coach, Barack's explanation of Wright is based on information that he gave to him. If its not the truth then you may want to speak to Rev Wright on it. You can't blame someone for not knowing the past of another person.
In any event, any idiot can see that the Republicans and Hillary don't want to go face to face with Barack and are trying to attack other people that are around him or associated with him. It clearly shows that he is the leader of the pack
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vince he is not your dad they still have not found that flea market piece of shit
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In any event, any idiot can see that the Republicans and Hillary don't want to go face to face with Barack and are trying to attack other people that are around him or associated with him. It clearly shows that he is the leader of the pack
Correct. MSNBC did a nice split-screen of Hilary and Mccain last week... they both had the same message, each day. Almost identical speaking points, all trashing obama.
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Dumb ass
I am pro choice. You dont wanna take responsibility for your actions then you have the right to make the wrong decision. I hate big govnt with a passion. Personal decisions are not for the govnt to make. Am I for the death penalty? 100% I am. Funny how librals never think people should be held responsible for there actions.
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I am a gun ho conservative who dragged his knuckles to formation everday for 8 years in USMC(0311).
What do you feel makes you a conservative?
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Dumb ass
I am pro choice. You dont wanna take responsibility for your actions then you have the right to make the wrong decision. I hate big govnt with a passion. Personal decisions are not for the govnt to make. Am I for the death penalty? 100% I am. Funny how librals never think people should be held responsible for there actions.
Capital punishment = the government at its BIGGEST.
Think...
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What I think people fail to remember are the various crazy ministers who have endorsed McCain. john Hagee said that Katrina was gods wrath and that those who died where being punished. How nutball is that.
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What I think people fail to remember are the various crazy ministers who have endorsed McCain. john Hagee said that Katrina was gods wrath and that those who died where being punished. How nutball is that.
joloco's got a few loose screws himself, ok?
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Hey Coach, you'll like this: http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2008/04/28 (http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2008/04/28). It's a McCain/McBain mash-up.
/and if you don't like the simpsons....there's no hope for ya!
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Capital punishment = the government at its BIGGEST.
Think...
So there should be no laws and no prisons?
I said I dont like big govnt but there times when it does have its place.
I am conservative
Less tax
Cant stand welfare and most social programs
capitalist
Strong military
Strong border
No socialized health care
I dont believe in Giving minorities anything for free.(or anyone for that matter)
Or having to be forced to hire someone because of the color of there skin or ethnic background.
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So there should be no laws and no prisons?
I said I dont like big govnt but there times when it does have its place.
Big government has no place if you're a true conservative.
I am conservative
Less tax
Cant stand welfare and most social programs
capitalist
Strong military
Strong border
No socialized health care
I dont believe in Giving minorities anything for free.(or anyone for that matter)
Or having to be forced to hire someone because of the color of there skin or ethnic background.
I'm not sure how old you are, but if you look at the GDP of the U.S., you will see tremendous increase at two specific periods during the past 60+ years - the first came when women joined the American workforce during and following WWII and then you saw another in the wake of Civil Rights legislation that opened up more opportunities (primarily, at that time) for Black Americans.
And do you know who benefits most when the GDP increases?
That's right, wealthy Whites.
In regards to social programs, what you will find is that the wealthy decision-makers in America - regardless of whether they identify as 'conservative' or 'liberal' or something else altogether - ALL support these programs as a way to maintain THEIR power. If you take away a person's opportunity and then provide food, clothing, and shelter to him...you can effectively take away his initiative to become productive and successful.
Repeat that millions of times over and you can create a culture of dependency...one that has no desire to advance itself, because all its needs are met.
And once you achieve that, then you effectively eliminate one major threat to your power.
I'm going to repeat this lesson until you all get it:
The wealthy Democrats do not want a thriving middle class in America, and the wealthy Republicans do not want a middle class at all.
Leftist thinking is easy to identify, but on the right, what they've had to do is to convince non-rich White people like yourself that you have any stake whatsoever in the country. The reality is that your only use to them is to keep them in power...and to provide services for them, of course.
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This dude makes Killary seem somewhat honest :-\
Explain, in your own words, how Barrack Obama lied.
Thanks.
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This dude makes Killary seem somewhat honest :-\
Monday, April 28, 2008 9:39 AM
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News...
...sorry Coach, but as a European I'm not allowed to read any further than that.
Fox Noise isn't allowed in Europe because it fails to meet journalistic integrity standards; isn't impartial and doesn't give equal time or a balanced view. These shortfalls coupled with the deliberate political bias and promulgation of sensationalist partisan rhetoric means it is outlawed by our anti-propaganda legislation.
Fox News can't be broadcast in Europe because disinterested, impartial experts with no investment or vested interest in either republican or democratic American values have classified it as "propaganda".
Yet, Al Jazera (which IS available in Europe) has just recently launched an English language channel in Europe and many respected reputable British journalists have signed up as correspondents. What image of Al Jazera does Fox News promote?
Believing what Fox News tell you is tantamount to attending a Nuremburg rally (perhaps with the exception of substituting "Heil Murdoch!" for the typical Nazi salute).
Broaden your horizons Coach... turn off Fox Noise and ponder the fact that all the most intelligent people in the world are liberals.
The Luke
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Oops.........is this better?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/OCBumperStickerbig.jpg)
:D
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Joe,
That banner calls for rioting, death, and destruction in AMERICAN cities.
It's disgusting.
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Joe,
That banner calls for rioting, death, and destruction in AMERICAN cities.
It's disgusting.
Oh Brother ::)
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...sorry Coach, but as a European I'm not allowed to read any further than that.
Fox Noise isn't allowed in Europe because it fails to meet journalistic integrity standards; isn't impartial and doesn't give equal time or a balanced view. These shortfalls coupled with the deliberate political bias and promulgation of sensationalist partisan rhetoric means it is outlawed by our anti-propaganda legislation.
Fox News can't be broadcast in Europe because disinterested, impartial experts with no investment or vested interest in either republican or democratic American values have classified it as "propaganda".
Yet, Al Jazera (which IS available in Europe) has just recently launched an English language channel in Europe and many respected reputable British journalists have signed up as correspondents. What image of Al Jazera does Fox News promote?
Believing what Fox News tell you is tantamount to attending a Nuremburg rally (perhaps with the exception of substituting "Heil Murdoch!" for the typical Nazi salute).
Broaden your horizons Coach... turn off Fox Noise and ponder the fact that all the most intelligent people in the world are liberals.
The Luke
Great post from our brother in Euro-land! :D
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Oh Brother ::)
How did Obama lie?
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How did Obama lie?
He's a politician - he opened his mouth and spoke. ;)
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Coach - All that says is that Wright may have misrepresented himself to Obama in order to gain 'street cred'.
For 22+ years huh, damn he must not only have street cred he must have da whole block on da lock down
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This is what happens when you stop making them sit at the back of the bus.
No-one laughed at this? Pathetic >:(
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I don't think this is a big deal at all. Honestly, he came out and denounced the guy, and what more could he have done?
Lots of people have relationships with people that have extreme opinions. If Obama were the whining and race card playing type, then I think this whole issue would be a cause for alarm. But any objective person can see that he obviously doesn't share the same views as Wright. When has he himself ever made comments damning this country, or said anything remotely close to what the NAACP and Nation of Islam types would say?
Republicans have been aligning themselves with extreme white christian pastors for years. Guys like Farwell(good thing he's dead) said that we had 9/11 coming, and other pastors have made similar remarks. These pastors are often most associated with the Republican party; a party that reaches out for the votes of the people who follow these nutjobs. I don't see the media jumping all over that..
People like Joeloco need to fuck off. Far as I am concerned, not wearing a flagpin is as much an issue as this Wring business. When you're attacking someone based on these nonissues, then you obviously don't like the guy anyway and wouldn't vote for him even if he were some proven saint.
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No-one laughed at this? Pathetic >:(
Thanks, mate. I'm feeling the love.